HomeMy WebLinkAbout2022-01-18 - Minutes -Council Member Sonia Harvey
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Council Member D'Andre Jones
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Council Member Mark Kinion
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Mayor Lioneld Jordan
City Attorney Kit Williams
City Clerk Kara Paxton
City of Fayetteville Arkansas
City Council Meeting
January 18, 2022
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Council Member Sloan Scroggin
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Council Member Sarah Bunch
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Council Member Teresa Turk
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Council Member Holly Hertzberg
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A meeting of the Fayetteville City Council was held on January 18, 2022 at 5:30 p.m. in Room
219 of the City Administration Building located at 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
Mayor Jordan called the meeting to order.
In order to create social distancing due to the Coronavirus, Covid-19 pandemic Council
Members Sonia Harvey, D'Andre Jones, Mark Kinion, Sloan Scroggin, Sarah Bunch and
Teresa Turk joined the meeting via online using a video conferencing service called Zoom.
City Clerk Treasurer Kara Paxton joined the meeting via Zoom from her office in City Hall.
Mayor Lioneld Jordan, Council Member Holly Hertzberg, City Attorney Kit Williams, Chief
of Staff Susan Norton, Chief Financial Officer Paul Becker, Chief of Police Mike Reynolds,
Fire Chief Brad Hardin and staff members from the IT Department were present in City
Council Chambers while demonstrating recommended social distancing.
Pledge of Allegiance
Mayor's Announcements, Proclamations and Recounitions:
Presentation of the City of Fayetteville Martin Luther King Brotherhood Award
City Attorney Kit Williams: For the last 20 years it has been my honor and privilege to recognize
a worthy City of Fayetteville employee to receive the City of Fayetteville, Dr. Martin Luther King
Jr. Brotherhood Award. This award has been given annually in recognition of the city employee
whose service to our city and community best exemplifies Dr. Martin Luther King's dream of
equality, justice, brotherhood and service. This year's honoree joins a distinguished list of city
employees who have embodied Dr. King's dream and have helped fulfill his legacy of service.
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One reason I've enjoyed serving Fayetteville as City Attorney for 20 years, is that virtually all of
our City of Fayetteville employees from Clerks to Maintenance Workers from Patrol Officers to
Truck Drivers, do their jobs with professionalism and efficiency. They serve our citizens with
courtesy and competency. It's been very rewarding to work along with my fellow city employees.
Our honoree tonight is a Water Distribution Maintenance worker. He has done such good work
that he has been placed in the role of Interim Crew Leader, supervising his repair crew. Utilities
Director, Tim Nyander, reports that this honoree displays natural leadership and inspires his crew
by his own example. He has created an atmosphere of brotherhood and friendship within his
Maintenance Division and motivates others by his positive attitude and work ethic. Water
Maintenance crews must be ready 24 hours a day, 365 days a year, to repair serious water main
leaks to ensure our citizens have safe and reliable water to drink and use.
On September 20, 2021, his crew and others got called out when one of our principal transmission
mains ruptured. He, as well as others, worked 22 hours straight to get this massive main rupture
repaired in the shortest time possible. This was especially difficult and unpleasant because of the
torrential downpour that occurred, most of that night and into the early morning. However, despite
the storm and the deep and dirty hole they had to work in to repair that essential water transmission
main, Michael Strong not only persevered, but he led by a positive can -do spirit. 22 hours later,
the main transmission line was repaired, and clean water was again flowing.
Then on Christmas Day, Michael Strong and a fellow employee were notified of a drainage
problem. They left their families on Christmas Day and responded to our citizen's request for help.
They discovered our citizen's kitten had been trapped in a storm drain. The kitten's leash had been
caught and stuck on a drain tile, from which the kitten could not free itself. Michael and his partner
jumped into action and quickly rescued the kitten to the relief and delight of our citizen; a
Christmas gift from the City of Fayetteville. Michael Strong and many other city employees treat
all of our citizens, rich and poor, young and old, with genuine respect and the best possible service.
Michael Strong displays dedication to our citizens welfare, whether it's a stormy night repairing a
difficult rupture of a water main or responding to save a kitten for its owner on Christmas Day.
Michael Strong is a worthy recipient of the 2022 City of Fayetteville Martin Luther King Jr.
Brotherhood Award.
Michael Strong: Thank you. I appreciate it.
Mayor Jordan: Congratulations, Michael.
Citv Council Meeting Presentations, Reports, and Discussion Items:
Acenda Additions: None
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Consent:
.approval of the January 4, 2022 City Council Meeting Minutes.
APPROVED
Krapff Reynolds Construction Company: A resolution to approve a one year extension to the
contract with Krapff Reynolds Construction company in the amount of $590,789.00 for
rehabilitation of sanitary sewer manholes throughout Fayetteville, and to approve a change order
providing for a 5% price increase on item costs.
Resolution 17-22 as recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Black & Veatch Water and Sewer Rate Study: A resolution to approve an increase in project
contingency funds in the amount of $25,000.00 for scope of work modifications as needed for the
water and sewer rate study being performed by Black & Veatch Corporation.
Resolution 18-22 as recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Fayetteville Fire Department Administrative Operating Procedure Policy: A resolution to
approve Fayetteville Fire Department Administrative Operating Procedure Policy AOP-101,
General information and Introduction.
Resolution 19-22 as recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Amend Resolution 343-21 Service Appreciation Pay Budget Adjustment: A resolution to
amend resolution 343-21 and approve a budget adjustment increasing the 2021 Budget by the
amount of $19,274.00 to reconcile actual expenses on checks given to employees as part of the
service appreciation pay.
Resolution 20-22 as recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Renew Public Vaccine Incentive and Establish Covid Sick Bank: A resolution authorizing
Mayor Jordan to renew a program to encourage unvaccinated employees of businesses in
Fayetteville and Fayetteville residents to get vaccinated, and to establish a Covid-19 Sick Leave
Bank for city staff with a Covid-19 diagnosis to cover a 5 day quarantine period.
Resolution 21-22 as recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Council Member Harvey moved to accept the Consent Agenda as read. Council Member
Turk seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 6-0. Council Members Scroggin,
Turk, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes. Council Member Bunch was absent
during the vote.
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Unfinished Business:
RPZD-2021-005 (1032 S. Razorback Rd./The Retreat at Fayetteville): An ordinance to
approve a Residential Planned Zoning District entitled R-PZD 2021-0005 for approximately 13.65
acres located at 1032 South Razorback Road. At the January 4, 2022 City Council meeting this
ordinance was left on the first reading.
Council Member Scroggin moved to suspend the rules and go to the second reading. Council
Member Jones seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 7-0. Council Members
Scroggin, Bunch, Turk, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
Jonathan Curth, Development Services Director stated he did not have any new information on
the item and was available for questions.
Will Kelstrum, Bates & Associates Representing the Applicant gave a brief history of the item.
He stated this comes from a recommendation from the Planning Commission with a unanimous 8
to 0 vote. He spoke about tree preservation. He stated the property is nearly surrounded by medium
to high density student housing and it's in close proximity to the university. He stated it's the right
development in the right location. He stated approving this PZD is a good opportunity for the City
Council to get to see what it's getting in advance.
Council Member Turk: I have some concerns. I asked last week if anybody from the city could
go out and figure out how many acres of trees there are. I guess that's not available at this point. I
did a Google map calculation and with this development and we're going to lose seven acres of
trees, even with a 30% tree retention requirement under this proposed rezoning. If you Google
earth, you'll see there's hardly any treed areas left around the university or within the city, except
Markham Hill and we know where that's going. I do think this is in the right location, but there's
too much impervious surface. It's too large of a project. It's close to Chick Fil A and even though
they've redesigned it, there's still lots of traffic jams. The new project right across the street is going
to create some traffic concerns with this amount of congestion. I'm concerned about five people
per apartment. While that might be allowed in a PZD, it seems to undermine our four unrelated
people in the multifamily district. It's too dense and also a slope back there where the parking deck
is. The parking deck is going to be five stories high and will be sitting on that slope.
Council Member Scroggin: The per person loss of trees would be far better than a situation
similar to this, than some of the subdivisions we approve on a regular basis out at the edge of town.
We've known since the 50's and 60's, that if you want more trees and you want to care about the
environment, you build denser. I'll be voting for this.
Council Member Harvey: I was looking at the trees and this is a difficult decision, because it is
already zoned the way for it to be developed. We are going to lose a lot of trees, but it is in the
middle of town and right at the university. It's a dilemma for me and I don't want to lose the trees.
I believe our ordinances allow this and the location is right, so I'll probably continue to support it.
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Council Member Harvey moved to suspend the rules and go to the third and final reading.
Council Member Jones seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 7-0. Council
Members Scroggin, Bunch, Turk, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
Council Member Bunch: What is this mostly zoned now?
Jonathan Curth: It's currently zoned I-1, which is a Heavy Commercial and Light Industrial.
Council Member Bunch: That has 10% maintaining canopy. Is that correct?
Jonathan Curth: It's 15% canopy except in areas of HHOD, of which a portion of this property
is and increases it by 5% for that area.
Council Member Turk: Just because it's I-1 right now, I can't imagine an industry would be
moving in that location to put up a big plant or something like that. It's the right location for student
housing or apartments. However, they could build taller and have a much smaller footprint. They
could also use impervious stones or bricks. There are low impact development features the
applicant could use that would make this less impactful to trees and water quality. The five people
per beds is very high and very dense. It's going to cause traffic issues, and possibly other social
issues with that many folks packed in there. I will not be supporting it for those reasons.
Mayor Jordan asked shall the ordinance pass. Upon roll call the ordinance passed 6-1.
Council Members Scroggin, Bunch, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes.
Council Member Turk voting no.
Ordinance 6519 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Amend §151.01 Definitions, §164.19 Accessory Dwelling Units (ADU) and §164.22 Cluster
Housing Development: An ordinance to amend § 151.01 Definitions, § 164.19 Accessory
Dwelling Units (ADU) and §164.22 Cluster Housing Development of the Fayetteville Unified
Development Code to amend requirements for Accessory Dwelling Units. At the January 4, 2022
City Council meeting this ordinance was left on the first reading.
Council Member Hertzberg moved to suspend the rules and go to the second reading.
Council Member Harvey seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 7-0. Council
Members Scroggin, Bunch, Turk, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
Jonathan Curth, Development Services Director gave a brief description of the ordinance. He
spoke about public comments.
Council Member Scroggin: On the ADU above the garage, does that require a fire barrier?
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Jonathan Curth stated not typically. He stated typically, a fire barrier would be required if it's
separating the ADU from another habitable portion of the house. He stated he would look into
some things for Council Member Scroggin.
Council Member Bunch spoke about ordinances versus covenants. She spoke about setbacks.
She requested to know if ADU's had to comply with any setbacks.
Jonathan Curth: That's correct.
Council Member Bunch: If I have a single family house on a lot and I want to build the biggest
house I can on that lot, is there anything to stop me from cutting down trees now, if it's in RSF-4?
Jonathan Curth: The short answer is, no, in most situations. If you were to go above 6,000 square
feet of imperviousness, there's an abbreviated tree preservation plan that's required. If you stay in
that level two zone between 1,200 and 6,000 there's credit to be taken for the storm water standards
for preserving tree canopy on the property. Above and beyond either of those examples, is if a
house is being built on the Hillside Hilltop Overly District, they are higher standards for tree
preservation. Most of our zoning districts, especially the single family districts, have a lot area
coverage maximum on them. Taking the RSF-4 zoning district as example, only 40% of a property
zoned RSF-4 can have buildings on the property. If that's built into our zoning code, that's
completely exclusive of ADU's, but ADU's would contribute to that number.
Council Member Bunch: If someone wants to add on 1,200 square feet onto their existing home
and let's say they build a garage underneath the new edition they are adding, as long as it's less
than 6,000 square feet, it's still on that level to range for stormwater runoff. Is that correct?
Jonathan Curth: Correct. If they stay below 1,200 square feet, it would be fully excepted from
stormwater standards.
Council Member Bunch: If someone has more than one duplex on a piece of property, can they
build ADU's on that? Does it have to be the 40% of the lot at that point, or does it have to be the
1,200 square feet?
Jonathan Curth: The 1,200 square feet is the maximum allowance for ADU's on a lot. That area
of lot that can be built with buildings, varies by zoning district. The more intense the zoning
district, the larger that amount is allowed to accommodate the intensity.
Council Member Bunch: Someone wants to know if we could require privacy fences around
ADU's. If there's already a fence around the backyard, I don't know that you could require an ADU
to be fenced off. Is that correct?
Jonathan Curth: That is correct. Some of the very few design standards we have for Accessory
Dwelling Units, do revolve around privacy. If it's a second floor ADU, taking the garage example
of building an ADU on top of a garage, any of the primary windows for the ADU or external
staircases have to be either facing the house with which the ADU is associated or interior to the
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property. That's to protect privacy of having a living room window looking right over somebody's
backyard.
Council Member Bunch spoke about receiving some complaints and concerns about parking. She
stated they have an issue with anyone parking on the street. She requested to know if most of our
streets allow on -street parking.
Jonathan Curth: I don't know if I would say most, but many of our residential streets certainly
do. If it's over 26 to 28 feet wide, that is where we allow street parking and it won't interfere with
fire code. There are exceptions all over the city. In our historic district, our Fire Marshal is trying
to be accommodating for the historic nature of those streets and any other parking needs.
Council Member Turk: I would like some clarification about the storm water. If the primary unit
is 1,000 square feet, so it's exempt. Then the one below it, you add an ADU that is 600 square feet
and that would be 1,600 in total. Wouldn't that be a level two at that point, or are you exempt for
1,200 additional impervious service?
Jonathan Curth: In this example, specifically, it's exempt because it is using the footprint of the
existing house. If I were to answer your question more broadly, the amount of imperviousness is
based on above and beyond what you have the date of that ordinance's adoption. If you had 1,200
feet the day the stormwater ordinance was adopted, you would have 1,200 feet of additional
imperviousness to add to your property before the city would start looking for those improvements
or low impact development standards.
Council Member Turk: I've received quite a few emails that are very concerned about
undermining the RSF-4 and potentially moving it to an RSF-12.
The City Council received two public comments regarding this ordinance.
Council Member Scroggin stated when we first looked at this, there was a lot of people that said
we are doubling the density everywhere, especially in RSF-4 and that's just not happened. He
stated the majority of lots, you can't even really add anything too. He stated there are developers
who've looked across the city and for the most part they can't really put in almost any of these
anywhere. He stated the idea that RSF-4 is going to somehow magically turn into RSF-12 or RSF-
16 isn't going to happen. He stated if it did start happening, it would be slow because construction
is kind of slow. He stated he thinks Council would be willing to revisit this if we started adding
too many houses. He stated since he has been on City Council, the prices of houses have almost
gone up 50% and we are pricing people out. He stated some are selling their homes and moving
somewhere else, which is problematic because we would like people to be able to stay here. He
stated anytime we have a one or two bedroom rental, they rent immediately. He stated there is
some fear of the three units and he's willing to possibly look at that number, but we have to add
more houses. He stated people want to protect the integrity of RSF-4, but you can protect the
integrity of RSF-4 or you can help the homeless. He stated you can't do both. He stated if we keep
pushing all the development to Goshen, Prairie Grove and Lincoln, we're going to get some major
highways through our city. He stated he looked at some of the complaints and the addresses where
they were. He stated some of the complaints were from people that their houses are where people
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could walk to the U of A. He stated that's exactly where you want to add density, so those people
can walk, bike or whatever e-version of getting over there and those are where they belong. He
stated this is needed.
Council Member Bunch stated having major highways coming through our city is a real big
possibility. She stated we have lots of state highways that intersect through Fayetteville. She stated
frequently, we don't have a lot of say so on what happens on the state highways. She stated
Highway 16 is going to be widened possibly to four lanes, all the way to Elkins, which is a big
highway. She stated what if that goes out to Lincoln, Prairie Grove or beyond those places. She
requested to know how many ADU's we anticipate we have across the city or how many people
have applied for these permits.
Jonathan Curth: It's been averaging about 10 to 12 since 2018. Before that, it was between one
and three from 2008 onwards. Taking an optimistic number, it's probably 60 in 13 years.
Council Member Turk stated we've made some significant changes in 2018 and we've increased
to about 10 to 12 per year and that seemed adequate, but now we're wanting to do much more. She
stated she doesn't have a problem with the ADU's with duplexes or the cluster housing, but
exceeding the height, the number of ADU's going from two to three and then lifting the 50%
restriction on the primary dwelling, those could be handled through a Conditional Use Permit. She
stated making these changes after only three years of data is too quick. She spoke about preserving
Fayetteville neighborhoods. She stated if we get too dense without proper planning and proper
constraints, we're going to lose that draw of Fayetteville and she has had people tell her we've
already lost it, but she doesn't think we have. She stated she would like to change this to allow,
not by right, but through a Conditional Use Permit.
Council Member Bunch: Are you saying, any ADU Conditional Permit or above a certain
number?
Council Member Turk: I am suggesting the changes that we're talking about, where if you wanted
to exceed the height restriction, like putting an ADU over a garage, that would go through the
Planning Commission with a Conditional Use Permit, rather than it being by right, which is what
we're talking about now. The same thing if you wanted to have more than 50% of the main house,
so you wanted to build one that 70% larger, that would go through the Planning Commission with
a Conditional Use and the same thing with having three units, rather than just two, that's allowed
now.
Council Member Bunch: Jonathan, if I wanted to build a room over a garage and put a bathroom
in it, what's to stop me? I could always do that couldn't I, without calling it an ADU? If my
neighbors don't complain, then what is to stop me from doing that?
Jonathan Curth: The big distinction to be made there among the characteristics that make an
ADU is that they have a separate entrance from the house. You can make an addition above your
garage and have the stairwell go from your house to the addition, and it would just be an addition.
There would be no distinction. If you had a separate entrance to it, staff would review it as an
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ADU. There are some items that can currently go to the Planning Commission as a variant. We
see those periodically, but there's not currently an allowance for the number of ADU's.
Council Member Bunch: If it is zoned RSF-4 and you have an acre lot, what is the maximum
you could build on something like that?
Jonathan Curth: If it's a single lot of record, you could build one house and currently two ADU's.
or as proposed three ADU's.
Council Member Bunch: As long as they weren't above 1,200 square feet:'
Jonathan Curth: Correct. That square footage limitation is still there.
Council Member Bunch: How many permits do you think we get for houses that are 400 square
feet or five 500 square feet? Do we get a lot of those?
Jonathan Curth: No, we don't. About 500 square feet is about the smallest I've seen built with
any frequency at all. Our cluster housing ordinance that used to be called a cottage housing
ordinance, the main reason its name was changed was because of that maximum building size was
increased. There wasn't a lot of market viability for the much smaller units trying to be sold fee
simple, where it could be different for Accessory Dwelling Units on a property in association with
a main house.
Council Member Turk: Zoning laws were made so people would know what the density is of
their neighborhood and could rely and count on that. When we start monkeying with ADU's and
allowing a lot more density that undermines the history of what zoning is all about. We should
keep that in mind when we are discussing these things.
Council Member Scroggin: About how many units of housing are in Fayetteville?
Jonathan Curth: In the entire city?
Council Member Scroggin: Yes.
Jonathan Curth: I don't have a unit count, but the household count is just over 35,000 as of 2019.
Council Member Scroggin: Even if it was 20,000 at 10 a year, we're adding .05%. At 35,000 it
would probably take 40 years to add 1 %. I don't think 10 is an issue at all. We could increase that
quite a bit. I disagree with the reason that zoning started. Zoning started to make sure the tanner
and the butcher weren't next to your house. It wasn't really about density and then it became about
keeping black people out. It initially started out with good things because people's health went up
when the factory wasn't next to them. It hurts people's health now because they can't walk to the
things they need to go too, and they have to drive. I'm still willing to talk about the two and three
total units.
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Council Member Turk: Jonathan, you mentioned there were already avenues through the
Planning Commission for variances. The only one you haven't had through there is the three versus
the two ADU's. Is that correct?
Jonathan Curth: That is correct.
Council Member Turk: So, there's already an avenue for people to build more than the 50% of
their main house. Do you have any idea how many of those have been denied of the variances for
ADU's?
Jonathan Curth: We have not seen a lot of those requests. This gets in more of the anecdote side
of things, but a lot of the people that approach staff are property owners who want to build them
on their property. Some public comment expressed concern about large corporations, but the
individual property owners are often deterred by public hearings. They're often deterred by
discretionary approvals, which are items where they have to come forward with some sort of
prepared documents, either by an architect, without knowing they can get it approved has
dissuaded many of them. I don't have numbers of how many people I've had those conversations
with, but certainly going before the Planning Commission has put off a number of people.
Council Member Turk: My concern is the, by right. There should be some kind of public
understanding that an ADU is going in, especially if it's 1,200 square feet because that's large.
Council Member Harvey stated we need to come back to one of our core tenets we've been
working on for a while, which is to create affordable housing. She stated having a house with an
apartment or another little space in it would have been really helpful to her when she was looking
for a space for her mom who had dementia. She stated a lot of people would like to be able to have
their aging family members or disabled family members have a private space, amongst your space.
She stated there's a lot of positive check boxes with this for Fayetteville and it also makes it
friendlier. She stated if it does become a problem, we can revisit it, but the numbers have been
pretty low. She stated allowing people flexibility to live with dignity with their family could be an
awesome thing.
Council Member Harvey moved to suspend the rules and go to the third and final reading.
Council Member Scroggin seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 7-0.
Council Members Scroggin, Bunch, Turk, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
Council Member Bunch: Regarding the height limit, right now, it couldn't be taller than the
original structure. Right?
Jonathan Curth: Correct.
Council Member Bunch: And we would be changing it to no limit. Is that correct?
Jonathan Curth: An ADU still cannot exceed two stories.
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Council Member Bunch: I meant it can't exceed two stories. If my house was one story, I could
build an ADU that was two stories?
Jonathan Curth: Correct. What's being proposed with this ordinance is for attached ADU's. If
you had your hypothetical attached garage, you could build it on top of that. It can be taller than
the roofl ine of your house if your house is one story.
Council Member Bunch: But I can't build a two story ADU that's not attached?
.Jonathan Curth: You can do that. It is allowed.
Council Member Bunch: I wouldn't be able to build a giant silo that's five stories tail and 50 feet
tiny footprint like the treehouse over on Rolling Hills. I wouldn't be able to build something like
that.
Jonathan Curth: Correct. Not by right.
Mayor Jordan: Jonathan, that was 60 and 13 years?
Jonathan Curth: Yes. That's an approximation. I don't think we did a great job of documenting
them for the first few years of the ordinance. In 2009 we had three. 2010 we had zero. 2011 we
had one. There's a gap of two years of 2012 and 2013 where we are not certain. It goes back up to
between one and three until 2018. The last three years we've had nine in 2019, nine in 2020 and
11 last year. 60 is probably a high estimate.
Council Member Turk: Council Member Scroggin, I'd like to hear your potential discussion
about taking three units off the table.
Council Member Scroggin: We haven't even gotten two ADU's yet. Maybe there's a few of them.
One detached, one internal or two detached, I'm okay with something of that nature. I think some
people are fearful that these are just going to pop up like Covid, which isn't the case. I am okay
with sticking at two.
There was a brief discussion about a possible amendment.
Council Member Hertzberg: I think this would be such a rare occurrence that it wouldn't be a
problem, but it might help someone who has a caregiver who needs to stay with an aging parent.
There might be some random situation that this could actually be helpful.
Council Member Scroggin: If you wanted a caregiver and an aging parent and you live in the
house, that would be allowed if we limited it to two detached ADU's. Jonathan, is that your
interpretation?
Jonathan Curth: Yes. I think one thing Council Member Turk mentioned, was the potential to
give the Planning Commission discretionary approval for the third. I'm not sure how that would
look with Council Member Hertzberg's suggestion.
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Council Member Scroggin: If we went with my amendment and somebody did need an internal
ADU and two detached if there was an actual situation, they could go and ask Planning
Commission?
Jonathan Curth: Not as currently written.
Council Member Turk: Could we amend that to where they could go to the Planning
Commission? Is that possible in this process?
Jonathan Curth: I understand the intent of what the Council's proposing. I'd like Mr. Williams to
comment on whether he has concerns about how that's done at this point.
City Attorney Kit Williams: The only concern I have is that I haven't seen an actual amendment
to the provisions. Although I think I understand what you all are talking about, but I haven't drafted
up any code provisions here that would do what is being requested. Jonathan, do you want to draft
up what you think is necessary because you've been the one drafting this ordinance? Do you think
you can come up with the language, right now, so the Council knows what they are doing?
Jonathan Curth: At the risk of drafting the ordinance on the fly, I think this may be a
straightforward one and I'll take a stab at proposing it. As proposed currently before the Council
is to change the maximum number of Accessory Dwelling Units per lot from one detached to one
attached to two detached and one attached. The amendment would remove that change, so it would
stay as one detached and one attached. Then towards the end of Chapter 164.19, under (E) Planning
Commission approval, the language can be changed in the first sentence to say, an applicant may
request approval from the Planning Commission of a variance from the maximum requirements
for size and square feet, heights, materials, and number of ADU's up to three. That would capture
it, if the Council's agreeable.
Mayor Jordan: We have an amendment to have two detached?
City Attorney Kit Williams: They're actually removing the two detached and making that have
to be a Conditional Use, because the wording that Jonathan gave said, it's kind of the current
wording, whether it's one attached and one detached is all that's allowed and, if you want to get
two detached, regardless whether you have one attached or not, you have to go the Planning
Commission and get a Conditional Use for that.
Jonathan Curth: As a point of clarification, it would be a variance, not a Conditional Use, as
written.
Mayor Jordan: The way it reads right now, if you've got a small house, then you can build up to
two-thirds of what that house is in the backyard. Is that correct?
Jonathan Curth: Right now, you're limited to 50% the size of the house.
Mayor Jordan: What you're proposing in this first round, was one attached and two detached?
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Jonathan Curth: Correct.
Mayor Jordan: With the proposed amendment, you can have one attached and one detached.
Right?
City Attorney Kit Williams: That's right.
Mayor Jordan: Basically, we would be taking away one detached. Instead of getting two, you
would get one.
Council Member Scroggin: And making that a variance if they need the two detached.
Mayor Jordan: You could get two with a variance. The amendment, right now, before the Council
is one attached and one detached.
Council Member Scroggin moved to amend the ordinance to one attached and one detached,
but if two detached are needed, a variance can be requested from the Planning Commission.
Council Member Turk seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 6-1. Council
Members Scroggin, Bunch, Turk, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes. Council Member
Hertzberg voting no.
Mayor Jordan asked shall the ordinance pass. Upon roll call the ordinance passed 7-0.
Council Members Scroggin, Bunch, Turk, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes.
Ordinance 6520 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Amend the Rules of Order and Procedure: A resolution to amend the Rules of Order and
Procedure of the Fayetteville City Council concerning public comments. At the January 4, 2022
City Council meeting this resolution was tabled for two weeks.
Council Member Turk: There are two components to this. The first one is simplifying the public
comment session. Instead of having the countdown to three minutes and then an additional two
minutes, we would eliminate that, and it would just be one five minute countdown. I've heard from
residents that it's very confusing. Some people think they only have three minutes. The second one
would be to allow citizens to present during their five minute public comment session with videos,
photos or PowerPoint presentation at the meeting. They would have to provide those materials in
advance to IT, so that IT could ensure there were no viruses. That would really only be IT's role
to make sure there were no viruses contained in the information. Right now, we're a little bit
vulnerable because if a citizen comes up and has a PowerPoint on a jump drive and wants to show
it to us, we almost always allow that to happen. We want fair and open discussions, but there could
be a virus on there. This is a way to do a little bit of advanced planning and make sure the citizens
know they can present those photos or media to us, rather than it being subject to our approval,
when they come to the podium.
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Council Member Jones: I would like to know the role that the City Clerk staff would play in this
or if they would play a role at all.
Council Member Turk: Right now, I don't believe they would play a role, because this is during
the public comment session. It's usually in person and that would be the vulnerability where they
just have a jump drive. I think the City Clerk and correct me if I'm wrong, if a comment was
submitted online, then the City Clerk has control over that information about whether it's
appropriate, displayed and attached. I don't know what the virus prevention is with that sort of
arrangement that you have now through your Laserfiche.
Kara Paxton, City Clerk Treasurer: That is absolutely correct. The reason why that form was
created online was to be able to streamline that content, in order for it to go through all the proper
channels, without having a gatekeeper to be able to address each and every one of those public
comments. With the increase of technology and it being able to go through the process without
having to have one person look at each of those individual comments. The Laserfiche technology
and our network it's established on is able to take a look at that and identify any potential viruses
that may come. That's the way it's been explained to me whenever we initially created that form.
Mayor Jordan: What exactly does that mean? If somebody wants to do some sort of presentation
at the City Council on a Tuesday night, where does that go and how does that get done?
City Attorney Kit Williams: Mayor, it's just going to be like it has been with the applicant. Staff
will have to get with IT to make sure there are no viruses on it, or anything like that. Beyond that,
the gatekeeper in the city for the City Council meeting presentation is Mayor Jordan. If someone
is speaking and they're not on topic and they're violating the Rules of Order and Procedure of the
City Council, then on that rare occasion, you stop them. The same thing would happen if they have
an audio visual presentation that doesn't have any viruses or anything like that in it, but then, when
they start playing the audio and it's not addressing the agenda item or that it's directly attacking
someone, disrupting the meeting, you would have the same rights with that as you do with someone
standing before you and speaking. As the Mayor and Chief Executive Officer and Chairman of the
City Council, it is your responsibility to be the gatekeeper. If someone violates the City Council
Rules of Order and Procedure, it is your responsibility to stop them.
Kara Paxton, City Clerk Treasurer: Kit, thank you for that detailed explanation. Like you stated
in those Rules of Order and Procedure, that's why I did my best to try to explain during the last
meeting. When we are in these settings the Mayor is the Chair and is the one who has to follow
the ordinances and all the Rules of Order and Procedure when something is happening in the
Council meeting that shouldn't be. I don't that should go through any other departments for denial
or approval of content. That should be something that goes directly to the Mayor in order to say
right there. All of the public comment is filtered through our office. We do not deny any public
content or any type of documents that are provided to us. We filter and facilitate those directly to
the Council. That is a separate role when it comes to that, so I appreciate Kit explaining that and
providing that information. Thank you to the Council Members for reaching out to me for your
comments and questions.
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Mayor Jordan: All I want to make sure is if a thumb drive is sent in here, that my staff can look
at it before we get a virus in our system. Is that going to be taken care or
Susan Norton, Chief of Staff: That is correct, Mayor. We will make sure that IT security is first
and foremost. We will work internally to deliver the best product during the meeting.
Mayor Jordan: That sounds great. I can work with that.
Council Member Kinion: Maybe Keith would have insight on how it could be handled well
through IT.
Keith Macedo, IT Director: We don't have a lot of these. In my history of six years of being here,
I can only recall, maybe five or six people coming in from the public and ask us to put a public
presentation, whether that is photos, video or a PowerPoint presentation. This is not a very common
thing.
Council Member Kinion: I am not asking them to come to you to develop it. I'm saying is there
a way we can have security in this process, so they don't bring in a file that's infected or something
that is inappropriate?
Keith Macedo: There's three kinds of ways those presentations would come to us. One, would be
somebody walks in with a thumb drive and hands it to us. If that's the case, the first thing we do is
scan those. It rarely occurs in the public, but it does happen from people that do present, such as
the applicants. This is our current process right now and we have been doing it ever since I've been
here. We will scan it and then view it to make sure there's nothing inappropriate in the document
and then we'll post it. It works pretty well, especially with the volume being so low. The other way
is if somebody submits that online. There are several ways that can happen. If an applicant does
email us an attachment, that is scanned by our Microsoft Office 365 email. When somebody sends
an attachment, it is automatically scanned. Once it's scanned for malware, then we can look at it
quickly. The only thing we look at is to make sure there's nothing inappropriate in it. We've never
censored anything and that's not our job as IT.
Kara Paxton, City Clerk Treasurer: I want to add onto something that Keith just said. It's very
important on the decision you're having, regarding denying something to go before the Council.
In my time here at the city, Keith and I have had multiple discussions, where, for several months,
I was blocked access from accessing the records that I needed to have access through from
Laserfiche to be able to do my job daily. I have discussed that with Susan Norton. This is something
I have great concern about, not only being here at the city, which I am the keeper of the records of
the agendas. I want to make sure everything is clear and transparent, as it can be. I want to say
how uncomfortable I am giving the authority to someone other than the Mayor to deny content.
No department should have the ability to deny content, until you get to that meeting. The Mayor
is the Chair and Chief Executive Officer of the city. I do agree with the Rules of Order and
Procedure that once that content gets up here, he can redirect that person and say, this is off topic.
Council Member Hertzberg: If we have a file that comes to us and we send it to IT, can IT just
send it back to Kara for her to review that?
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Susan Norton, Chief of Staff. That could happen if there were time. Sometimes these are very last
minute things and then meeting is starting.
Council Member Bunch: I think I'm going to go with the suggestions of the IT Department and
City Attorney on this. I don't think we're doing anything wrong or doesn't allow a person to have
access. We are unique in our desire to hear from our citizens. Lots of cities don't do that and
frequently we end up with the Mayor having to drag somebody back on to the subject at hand
because they've gotten off topic, or they brought some pictures of something they want to show us
that doesn't relate to what we're talking about. I feel very comfortable with what's been suggested
by the City Attorney. If it turns out to be a problem, we can always adjust it later.
Council Member Hertzberg: Keith, If there is time, would you be okay with sending whatever
you receive to Kara for her approval?
Keith Macedo, IT Director: That'd be fine, but I question the word, approval. It's easy to forward
information.
Council Member Hertzberg: Maybe approval is the wrong word, but instead review?
City Attorney Kit Williams: Keith, you are only to look at viruses and are not a clearinghouse.
You are just looking to make sure there's no problem from a virus or ransomware on the video.
Anything beyond that, about whether it's appropriate or not, is the Mayor's call. The Mayor is our
gatekeeper, not the IT Department. The Mayor can make that call when the video starts. If there's
something improper on the video, he will stop it at that point in time, just like he would stop a
speaker. It is not a department that's going to review these to see what's appropriate for you to hear.
That is not correct. It is a technical thing that we want IT to do to make sure it's not going to be
something that will damage our system. The Mayor is the gatekeeper here, no one else.
Keith Macedo: A lot of this is not malware or anything. A lot of what we do is making sure the
audio works and making sure the video works. We really try in IT to showcase whatever the public
wants to present to the public in the best way possible. It's not necessarily something we're doing
that's just cybersecurity. We are trying to present that information in the best possible way that
they intended. We don't necessarily have a standard and we don't think we need a standard for
what people submit.
City Attorney Kit Williams: That's exactly right and exactly what they should be doing. They
will leave any discretion about whether it's appropriate or not up to the Mayor.
Council Member Harvey: Everything that gets submitted from a person who wants to have some
visual aid, it's going through IT because we're checking to make sure technically it's not going to
take down our city system with a virus, but the integrity of the content eventually becomes part of
the public record. Correct? Then it eventually goes back to the City Clerk and it gets documented,
but in the meeting if it's inappropriate or not on topic, then it can be stopped. Is that all correct?
City Attorney Kit Williams: Since this is something that's presented live to the City Council, it
does not need to go to the Clerk's office for anything, unless she wants to put it in her agenda. She
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controls what goes into the agenda and she can do that if she wants too. Basically, IT just makes
sure it's not dangerous, and is presented as well as it can be, and then it is presented live to the
Mayor, City Council and the public, all hearing it. If there's any problems with it not being relevant
or being personally abusive that our rules don't allow, then the Mayor at that point, being the
gatekeeper, can stop it. That's the first time that any decision will be made about whatever is being
presented, about whether or not it violates the Rules of Order and Procedure. That's what we've
done with these audio visual aids that have been presented by applicants for years now. We don't
actually have to have the second sentence in there that says IT will do that, because IT is already
doing it. If you would feel more comfortable to remove that sentence so it's just done like it's
always been done in the past, no change, except now we're letting citizens do it during their public
address, then you could do that. It really wouldn't change what's going to happen because we are
trying to follow the procedure we've been using for years.
Council Member Harvey: Thanks for the clarification.
Council Member Turk: My goal for submitting these changes to the Rules of Order and
Procedure were to make it simpler, so the public would know in advance that they could have
visual images. I did not anticipate this being so complicated. I hope this improves our process and
has clarified our process a little bit.
Mayor Jordan: Council, these are your Rules of Order and Procedure. Whatever you all want me
to do is how I will run the meeting.
There was a brief conversation about the voting record.
Council Member Turk moved to approve the resolution. Council Member Harvey seconded
the motion. Upon roll call the resolution passed 5-2. Council Members Bunch, Turk, Harvey
and Kinion voting yes. Mayor Jordan voting yes. Council Members Scroggin and Jones
voting no. Council Member Hertzberg abstained.
Resolution 22-22 as recorded in the office of the City Clerk
New Business:
Amend Fayetteville Code of Ordinances: Short -Term Rental Density Limits: An ordinance to
amend § 118.01 Applicability of Chapter 1 l 8 Business Registry and Licenses, Chapter 151
Definitions, and Chapter 161 Zoning Regulations of the Unified Development Code to permit
Short -Term Rentals in additional zoning districts and to increase the allowable number of Short -
Term Rentals in attached residential units where adequate fire protection is present.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
Jonathan Curth, Development Services Director gave a brief description of the ordinance. He
stated staff is recommending approval. He spoke briefly about the public comments that were
received.
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Council Member Turk stated she would be recusing.
The City Council received one public comment regarding this ordinance.
Council Member Harvey moved to suspend the rules and go to the second reading. Council
Member Jones seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 6-0. Council Members
Scroggin, Bunch, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes. Council Member Turk
recused.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
Council Member Harvey moved to suspend the rules and go to the third and final reading.
Council Member Jones seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 6-0. Council
Members Scroggin, Bunch, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes. Council
Member Turk recused.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
Mayor Jordan asked shall the ordinance pass. Upon roll call the ordinance passed 6-0.
Council Members Scroggin, Bunch, Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes.
Council Member Turk recused.
Ordinance 6521 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Emergency Shelters for Homeless Persons: A resolution to approve a budget adjustment of
$21,442.00 to partially fund emergency shelters for homeless persons provided by 7Hills
Homeless Center, Genesis Church, Central United Methodist Church and Northwest Arkansas
Continuum of Care when the Salvation Army Shelter and other shelters are fully occupied during
dangerously cold nights.
Council Member Jones: This resolution is a winter weather emergency shelter collaborative,
which is the 7Hills Homeless Shelter, Genesis Church, New Beginnings, Northwest Arkansas
Continuum of Care, Salvation Army, Central United Methodist Church and the United Way. They
have made tentative plans to assist the homeless residents of Fayetteville when it is too cold for
them to safely sleep outside. The temperature will be 15-degree windchill or colder and we know
that can endanger persons who only have tents for housing. The collaborative has analyzed this
situation and determined its budget to provide safe and warm places to sleep during those cold
nights needing $21,442 in funding from the City of Fayetteville for their emergency nighttime
shelter program.
Steven Mills, Applicant, 7Hills Homeless Center: This is a great opportunity that several of the
organizations that are working to end homelessness and provide for those that are suffering from
homelessness. There is a gap, especially when it's extremely cold outside in overnight shelter in
our community. Several organizations are coming together to build a plan, rotate staffing and
ensure that these individuals in our community who are most vulnerable are provided care during
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that time. The collaboratives case for support has been made available. In the past, this has been a
goal of ours and it is something we have built up too. The emergency weather planning for next
year begins directly after warmer weather shows up this year. I guarantee this will not be an
emergency concern going forward.
City Attorney Kit Williams: Mayor, I would like to note for the record that we do have a written
contract now that has been signed by Steven Mills. This is a contract for services, outlining what
they have said needs to be done. It is now ready for the City Council to approve the contract and
authorize Mayor Jordan to sign it.
Mayor Jordan: Copies of the contract have been sent to the Council.
Council Member Harvey: Are we just receiving the contract, or did we already receive it?
City Attorney Kit Williams: We did receive it. With the holiday and everything in between, I
first had to draft it and then we got it out to them, but we did get it to Steven Mills. He has signed
it. I sent it out to Council this afternoon. I think Kara Paxton also put it in additional information
in your agenda packet, so you can see the signed contract there also.
Council Member Harvey: What's the duration from the $21,000 or it is just with the degree of
weather we are looking for the additional services? Is there a time period or is it based on the
temperature?
City Attorney Kit Williams: The time period is basically for this year. Every time you do a
budget, it is only for the year you are in. They won't necessarily have to spend all the money,
depending on what the weather is like. If they don't spend it all in this part of the year, in this
winter, then there will be some money they could reserve and spend this year, but in the November
and December area when there are also other cold times. This contract is for a year, but it won't
necessarily all be spent now.
Council Member Harvey: We have already had some really cold nights. I'm sad we haven't
already put this into place. Are we going to end up doing an Emergency Clause on this?
City Attorney Kit Williams: No, this is simply a resolution. It is immediately effective upon your
passage and the Mayor signing it.
Council Member Hertzberg: Council Member Jones, do you know if this is going to be mostly
for staffing or supplies?
Council Member Jones: We were provided an outline of what this going to be used for. If I
understand correctly, it is going to be used for volunteers. They have done a good job of providing
other forms of resources, but I do believe this is going to be utilized for staffing.
City Attorney Kit Williams: We incorporated as part of the contract the statement from the group
that was asking for the money. It includes $4,305 for staffing, $7,050 for security, $1,000 for utility
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reimbursement, $4,500 for cots, $500 for cleaning supplies., $3,000 for client outreach, and $1,083
for miscellaneous.
Council Member Harvey: Council Member Jones, thank you for working with the collaborative
to bring this forward. I am glad to hear there will be some moving forward planning for the next
year. As we have learned through this, there is a procedure that we want to go through with
nonprofits of applying for the funds. There's a need for that and we want to take care of that need.
I appreciate your energy and efforts.
Council Member Harvey moved to approve the resolution. Council Member Jones seconded
the motion. Upon roll call the resolution 7-0. Council Members Scroggin, Bunch, Turk,
Hertzberg, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes.
Resolution 23-22 as recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Face Masks in Public Service Areas: An ordinance to require persons to wear face masks in
public service areas in city owned buildings and places of public accommodation subject to
reasonable exemptions.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
Council Member Turk: The headline this afternoon was that Arkansas had the highest number
of hospitalizations ever. This Omicron variant is overwhelming our hospital system and is
exceeding some of the thresholds the Board of Health put in place. This variant is running rampant.
Today, 4,000 more people were infected and 15 more deaths. Anything we can do to encourage
people to require them to wear a mask and to lessen or slow the transmission, so we don't continue
to overwhelm our hospitalization system, is a good step forward. I'm tired of wearing the masks. I
know everybody else is. We are so tired of Covid, but these steps are necessary, so we don't burn
our healthcare workers out. They're already burned out, but at least our healthcare system hasn't
collapsed. It's really important that the city send a strong message to our citizens where we stand
on this issue, and that we support our colleagues at the U of A and the public schools. This way
we will have somewhat of a consistent policy. If the Omicron variant is still running rampant on
March 1, 2022, we have the ability to extend this, but if it lessens substantially, this will
automatically expire. I hope we follow the same pattern as New York City, where we have a rapid
decline and also South Africa.
Council Member Hertzberg: Mayor, I know last week you said that you had a concern about the
enforceability of this ordinance, which is a concern for me as well. If we are saying that this is
only going to be practically enforceable within city buildings, it would be more beneficial for us
to have a city building policy, rather than an entire city ordinance. I don't think it's going to be
beneficial and I don't think people are going to follow it. We are risking a possible lawsuit for
selective enforcement. We've seen how this has played out before within the city buildings, so I
am not in favor of this.
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Mayor Jordan: What you're saying is that you're okay with the buildings, but you have some
issues with it being city wide?
Council Member Hertzberg: I'm fine if we have a policy within city buildings, which is
reasonable and it's enforceable. I don't think we have enough enforceability within the city
ordinance to say, everybody has to wear masks. There's no way we can enforce it.
Mayor Jordan: That is a relatively accurate statement. Would you agree there is no enforcement
in the ordinance? Is that correct?
Council Member Turk: That's correct. There is no enforcement provision in the ordinance.
Mayor Jordan: We can enforce it in city buildings. Correct?
Mike Reynolds: Chief of Police: That's correct. I'd have to agree with Council Member Hertzberg.
Thank you to Council Member Turk for not having an enforcement component in this. You've
heard me outline throughout the past year the difficulties with the Police Department. A good law
is a law that gets about 75% to 80% compliance or better because people want to do the right thing
and we are not seeing that with this masking mandate and masking ordinance. It's too widespread
for the Police Department to enforce city wide. We absolutely have the capability and capacity to
enforce a policy you enact in city owned and city maintained buildings.
Council Member Hertzberg: It really matters where we have these types of policies. I work in a
hospital and I wear a mask all day. It's easily enforced in the hospital, schools and city buildings,
but it is not practically enforceable within an entire city.
Council Member Scroggin: Based on a conversation we had at Agenda Session, I thought this
was only about city owned buildings. Is that not how it's written up? Is it everything?
City Attorney Kit Williams: It was written up according to what Council Member Turk wanted.
It is very similar to the second mask mandate; except we removed the punishment provision within
that. We also removed the Emergency Clause because this is not a permanent ordinance. To have
to wait for 31 days that means you have a general and permanent ordinance. This one has a very
short time period that is going to be in effect, therefore, you don't need an Emergency Clause. It
will go into effect immediately.
Council Member Scroggin: Hopefully we can adjust it tonight. We need it at the buildings. I feel
like this almost should be like a resolution and an ordinance. An ordinance for city owned buildings
and a resolution encouraging outside of it. I don't like having things that aren't enforced. It's just
kind of bad law. Everybody should wear a mask, everybody should get vaccinated, but they're not
and it doesn't mean this law will have any effect on it. Hopefully we can make these changes and
get this passed tonight.
Council Member Turk: This law is important to be inclusive of businesses because many
businesses would like to require a mask, but they feel vulnerable if we don't have a mask mandate
policy. This assist them in getting compliance from their customers. I would say the same thing is
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true at large venues. Without the city having a mask mandate, some of them feel they may not be
able to effectively enforce it within their own business or area. We should look at it from that point
of view as well. Since there's no enforcement provision or punishment, I don't see the harm in
making it city wide.
Council Member Scroggin: How many people have we arrested for not wearing a mask?
Nlil:e Reynolds, Chief of Police: We have not arrested anyone for not wearing a mask to this date.
Council Member Scroggin: How many people per month do we arrest for trespassing?
Mike Reynolds: Without those statistics in front of me, I would say less than 10 in a year.
Council Member Scroggin: Okay, but we do. If a business says a person needs to go, we show
up and escort them out or arrest them or whatever is needed. Correct?
Mike Reynolds: Yes, that's correct. The most common thing we see is shoplifting. We will
respond to one of the local merchants. If we choose to write them a citation, typically what they
do at that point is they have us warn them of criminal trespass and that information goes on a log.
If that individual returns to the store, they contact us, and we respond to locate the individual to
arrest them for criminal trespass. The Mayor controls the city buildings. If someone came into a
city building and wasn't abiding by policy, he could ask them to leave or his designee could ask
them to leave. If they refuse to leave, we would warn them of criminal trespass. If they refused to
leave at that point, we would issue them a citation or arrest them. That situation played out months
ago here in Council Chambers.
Council Member Scroggin: I hope we can modify this to be only city owned buildings, but then
reaffirm our commitment to support businesses that decide to make their own rules. I get emails
on both sides and usually it doesn't matter which side they are on; their arguments are so bad I vote
against it. Enforceability is important. It makes us look kind of silly to have laws on the book that
we don't enforce.
Council Member Turk: We reconfigured or reconvened the Board of Health a couple of years
ago. Their recommendation is mask mandates and we've exceeded greatly those thresholds they
identified in terms of hospitalizations and percentage positive. If we don't follow their
recommendations, that's our choice, but we basically have ignored the expert's opinion on this
issue. I think that was why we wanted to have a Board of Health, so we can have an outside group
of experts advise us on this pandemic.
Council Member Harvey: From a worker's perspective, they are having to go to work and interact
with the public. They need that job for their paycheck. Having the city step up and say we want to
protect workers who are having to interact with the public is the right thing to do. I understand the
business can choose to do that for their employees, but as a city it's a responsible thing to do in a
worldwide pandemic and reinstate the mask mandate. At the end of the day, people can decide
where they want to shop and eat. It's just responsible as a city to stand up for workers who have
no choice in interacting with the public.
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Council Member Jones: What is the Board of Health's recommendation?
Council Member Turk: They have recommended mask mandates for quite some time. However,
we didn't exceed those thresholds and parameters that were set by them, until the last three weeks.
They've always thought masking was very prudent and needed, but we had kind of a dip after the
Delta and so we had gone below those thresholds.
Council Member Jones: Numbers have now increased. Correct?
Council Member Turk: They're off the charts. Numbers have very much increased. Some experts
say the severity of Omicron is much less, but the sheer volume of extra people that are getting it
compared to other variants is very high.
Council Member Jones: Because of that, we should do whatever we can from the city. If the City
of Fayetteville is more proactive, then that would encourage business owners to do the same. I've
heard similar comments as it relates to wishing that business owners could have mask. This is an
opportunity for us to do whatever we can to ensure the health and safety for everyone. Even though
it's not enforceable, it's showing we are responsible, and that we care about the wellbeing of our
citizens.
Council Member Bunch: I've traveled overseas in the past year and been to places where wearing
a mask was not a problem. People would not be allowed in businesses if they didn't have their
mask. I hate that we don't have anything that's enforceable, but I agree with the perspective of
giving this tool to our businesses to ask for it if they want too. It sends a message we are allowing
them to use this tool and we're going to back them up to the full ability we can. It sends a message
to our community that we care about their health and want to keep them safe. I'm in support of
this.
Council Member Jones: This issue has been made political for way too long and it is time for us
to follow the guidance of the Board of Health. We have a responsibility to do everything we can
to keep everyone safe. We don't know what this is going to look like tomorrow. There could be
another wave or another type. I believe in being proactive and being responsible. I'm in full support
of this.
Council Member Harvey: We learned a lot about the economic impact. We're not asking any
businesses to close and we are not asking people to not shop. We're saying, when you do, if the
business has a mask sign posted, please comply. The economy needs healthy workers and healthy
people shopping. This is the right tool to keep the economy rolling.
Council Member Harvey moved to suspend the rules and go to the second reading. Council
Member Jones seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 6-1. Council Members
Scroggin, Bunch, Turk, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes. Council Member Hertzberg
voting no.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
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Council Member Harvey moved to suspend the rules and go to the third and final reading.
Council Member Jones seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 6-1. Council
Members Scroggin, Bunch, Turk, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes. Council Member
Hertzberg voting no.
City Attorney Kit Williams read the ordinance.
Council Member Hertzberg: We think we have the power to change public opinion on this issue
and I don't think that we do. Everybody has made up their mind on this. I don't think this should
be about whether mask work or not. This is about good policy or not. This is not a good policy.
We need to have something that is enforceable and doesn't make us look like we can put out a law
that nobody abides by.
Council Member Kinion: I understand the argument that it's not enforceable, but it comes down
to what you value as right. People have absolutely made up their minds on this. They know
logistically people aren't wearing them and so they don't have to wear them. The reason I am
supporting this is to show I care about the health of the community. Vaccines work. People who
are not vaccinated are the highest risk of passing it on to someone else. My personal values say we
should be wearing mask. I am aware of the legal implications.
Council Member Scroggin: I will vote for this mainly because of the buildings. I think outside is
silly. I noticed that more people were wearing their mask after December 23rd than before. People
are making their own decisions on this.
Council Member Harvey: Thank you to Council Member Turk for getting this together and Kit
as well. It allows flexibility for people to make their decision.
Mayor Jordan: I am a voting member on the Board of Health. We discussed this issue at the last
Board of Health meeting. The Board of Health recommends that everybody should be vaccinated,
and everybody should wear a mask. That was their recommendation, and it was a unanimous vote.
As far as enforcement goes, it's very difficult to ride herd on 94,000 people with the number of
Police Officers I have. I believe we do need to make statement. I go back to a time when we were
looking at a smoking ordinance years ago when I was on the City Council. I didn't know how I
was going to vote on that, but I had to ask myself if everybody in the world smoked or didn't
smoke, would we have a healthier place. I asked myself the same question about the mask. If
everybody wore a mask, it would it be safer. If everybody was vaccinated, it would be safer. We
may not be able to enforce this city wide, but I can enforce it in these buildings, and I will. I am
the manager of these buildings. If you come in city buildings, you have to have a mask on. If not,
I will call the Police Department and you will be removed for public trespass. Thank you to Council
Member Turk.
Mayor Jordan asked shall the ordinance pass. Upon roll call the ordinance passed 6-1
Council Members Scroggin, Bunch, Turk, Harvey, Jones and Kinion voting yes. Council
Member Hertzberg voting no.
Ordinance 6522 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk
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Announcements: None
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