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Member Aldermen
Mayor Dan Coady Ward 1 Position 1 — Adella Gray
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Ward 2 Position l - Kyle rt Cook
CityAttorney Kit Williams � 1 Ward 3 Position 2—Robert Ferrell
Ward 4 Position 2 - Lioneld Jordan
City Clerk Sondra Smith ARKANSAS
City of Fayetteville Arkansas
City Council Water & Sewer Committee
Meeting Minutes
June 10, 2008
A meeting of the Fayetteville City Council Water & Sewer Committee was held on June 10, 2008
at 5:45 p.m. in Room 326 of the City Administration Building located at 113 West Mountain
Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Alderman Kyle Cook, Chair; Alderman Lioneld Jordan;
Alderman Robert Ferrell; Alderwoman Adella Gray
STAFF PRESENT: David Jurgens; Gary Dumas; Paul Becker; Ron Petrie; Kit Williams
OTHERS PRESENT: Steve Davis, Davis Business Planning (representing the cities of
Farmington and Elkins)
Chairman Kyle Cook called the meeting to order.
1. Approve Minutes
Alderman Ferrell moved that the Water & Sewer Committee meeting hold on May 13, 2008 be
approved as distributed. Alderman Jordan seconded the motion and it carried unanimously.
David Jurgens gave the committee an update on the status of the West Side WWTP. Ribbon
Cutting is Thursday, June 12, 2008. He said everything is going very well.
2. Mt. Seguoyah Pressure Plane
David Jurgens welcomed the residents from the Mt. Sequoyah area. He said at the last meeting
we identified the need and the reasons for the need and now we are ready for discussion and
public input. He said we need this due to inadequate water storage and fire protection in this
area. The Health Department sent a letter several months ago asking for the status of the project.
(following up on a letter sent three years ago stating the need for the project). The project was
identified when the subdivision at the top of the hill on Canterbury Drive was platted. The lot
was deeded by plat to the City at that time for a future water tank site. It was re-emphasized as an
immediate need in the 1988 Water Master Plan and again in the 1996 Water Master Plan and
remains an immediate need. Essentially we have 250,000 gallons of storage in a pressure plan
that requires 1 million gallons of storage minimum.
Alderman Cook opened the floor for public comment.
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Chip Wright said back in 1991 he pointed out to the Committee that the City does not own the
lot. There has not been a formal dedication nor has there been an acceptance of the dedication by
the City. He said the lot is owned by the Hyland Park Homeowners Association Phase IL He
asked on what basis the City believes the ownership of this lot rests with the City.
Alderman Cook asked staff if this is an accurate assessment.
Kit Williams said he has not done any research on this yet. He is here today to listen to the
arguments and then he will look at the plat and the information.
David Jurgens said in the Washington County records he has seen the lot is in the City of
Fayetteville's name. The City has been paying taxes on the lot since 1995. He believes it has
been in the City's name since the plat was recorded but he doesn't remember all the history.
Bill Clark said he believes Mr. Wright is absolutely correct but that Mr. Williams will figure it
out. He said the property was never conveyed by Hyland Park Inc., the developer, to the City.
There was some sort of notation on the plat but that is all. This issue came up in 1993 and he and
his neighbors asked the developer, Hyland Park, Inc. to convey the property to their homeowners
association. That was done by a deed filed on July 16, 1993. They tried to pay taxes but were
refused because the County records show the property is owned by the City. He believes this to
be incorrect. He said the homeowners association has maintained the property for 34 years. He
said they believe that because the City did not get a dedication 34 years ago it has waived its
right to this property. He said there is no question the City can condemn the property and put a
water tower on it. They are asking that we not do this, citing the diminished property values that
he believes will result. He said the City will be doing them a great disservice by putting a water
tower in this location. They believe there are other solutions to the water pressure problem.
Though this may be the cheapest site, he believes the fallout from the issue will ensure that it
ultimately will not be the cheapest site monetarily or in terms of public relations.
Jim Lindsey said he and Coach Broyles developed this area. He pointed out the reason the lot
was offered is that there was no water pressure on top of the mountain. He said they went in on
Hyland Park I and installed a pump system to provide the pressure.
David Jurgens said the Mt. Sequoyah water tank supplies the pressure but the water is pumped
up by the Hyland Park pump station (as well as another pump station on Rogers Drive).
Jim Lindsey said the pump station was needed at the time and they put it in at their expense. He
said the lot was set aside for a future tower to supply water for Hyland Park II and not to support
the system for the whole City of Fayetteville to the east. It was for the benefit of the top of
Hyland Park. He said he had heard that this water tower would not even benefit the top of
Hyland Park but is designed to take care of the growth to the east.
David Jurgens said that is incorrect. He said the issue is that there is not enough flow volume to
provide fire protection throughout the pressure plane, including this hilltop. The tower would
provide direct benefit to the Hyland Park hilltop as well as the other areas on the pressure plane.
It is not designed to provide for future growth except for the very small area on top of Canvas
Mountain. It is not a future issue but an immediate need that has been identified for 20 years.
Jim Wasseleus said he and his wife probably have the most to lose because the tower would be
placed directly in front of their house. He said he has taken care of the lot for 20 plus years. He
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said the value of his home will go to nothing with this tower there. He appreciates all the efforts
of the committee and hopes they will make the right decision for everyone
Tony Meyer said he read the engineering report and knows there are four options. He said if Mr.
Clark is right that the value of their homes will go down, he feels the other options are better
choices. He said he understands that all four options are technically equal.
David Jurgens said all four options would provide adequate pressure to the pressure plane.
Having balanced tanks on the two sides of the pressure plane is a lot better because you don't
have to pump the water as far. A lot more piping would be involved (with other options). Saying
they are all equal from a water standpoint isn't accurate. If you have to put in more piping, it
means more work to be done and a lot more potential for error. However, all four options
accomplish the bottom line water system mission.
Tony Meyer said that ultimately there may be cheaper options than what the study suggests.
Doug Kuntz said he has lived on Canterbury since 1982. He said many people have spent a lot
of time and effort making the area one of the most livable places in Fayetteville. He believes
everyone at the table wants to do right for the citizens and he believes they will do the right
thing.
A member of the audience said that there are restrictive covenants in the area that restrict set
backs as well as fencing requirements and he suggested that building a tower at this site would
break those covenants, adding more expense. He said the expense to this site just keeps going up.
There being no further comment, Alderman Cook closed the floor to the public.
Alderman Jordan said he would like to know who owns the property.
Kit Williams asked Bill Clark if he could send him his best arguments for why the property does
not belong to the City and that we have abandoned the property. He said he will look at that with
an open mind as well as do his own research. He spoke of inverse condemnation and gave an
example of a case that was rejected by the Supreme Court. They said that a government has to
put things somewhere and they are not required to compensate property owners for decrease in
the value of their property. He said if we take a portion of a piece of property and devalue the
rest, then that is a typical inverse condemnation issue and we would be required to compensate
that landowner for the remainder of his property. But to build on our own property (assuming
that this lot is our property) he believes would not give the right to an inverse condemnation
claim against the City. However that doesn't mean this would not be a factor in the Council's
decision about where to locate the tank.
Chip Wright spoke again regarding the fact that he found nothing in the records that spoke of a
dedication or deeding of the lot to the City. He said the City's tax payment for eleven years
doesn't hold up against what the homeowners' association has done.
Bill Clark said WACO Title said the homeowners' association is the legal owner of the
property. There is a quitclaim deed from the developer to the Hyland Park Homeowners
Association Phase Il. WACO said they could not give him a title policy because the City has
some claim and has been paying taxes on the property.
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Kit Williams asked that Mr. Clark give him something in writing similar to what he has said
tonight, including any old cases he believes might support his case. He said he would look at that
and then give his best opinion to this Committee and the Council as to the status of the property.
It sounds like it is not going to be crystal clear in one direction or the other.
David Jurgens said it appears there is a lack of clarity about what the water tower would
accomplish and why we have the need for it. He said he and his staff would be happy to meet
with their group to talk about the purpose and impacts, etc. He said his predecessor did meet with
several folks back in 2003 when the study was first done.
In response to a question from Bill Clark, Kit Williams said such a meeting is permissible.
Alderman Cook closed the discussion regarding this topic saying that Mr. Jurgens would meet
with the neighborhood.
3. WSIP Update
David Jurgens said everything is going well with the WSIP. The cutover for the new West Side
plant is going smoother than expected. He reviewed some of the contracts in the WSIP and said
bids would be opened a week from Thursday for the last job at the Noland plant. There is one
more big line job to do and bids will be opening for that in July or early August. After that bid
comes in we will be talking about the Owl Creek issue, where to put the lift station, etc. The
Committee had discussed this at an earlier meeting but the decision was deferred until we see
how much money remains in the project itself. As it looks right now we are going to have
between $1 million and $1.5 million remaining in the contingency. All of the west side lines
except one have come in under the approved contingency. The last work won't be done until the
end of 2009 and the design on the Owl Creek project may push the date out further. He said the
Farmington work is going smoothly.
a. West Side WWTP Change Order Number 5
David Jurgens said this will be the final change order and he hopes to get it before he goes on
military leave. If not, it will be around mid July.
b. West Side WWTP and Collection Systems Tools and Spare Parts
David Jurgens said we budgeted for tools and spare parts for the West Side plant and we are
sharing equipment with other locations where we can. We are only stocking those items that
have to be kept on-site. He said the Wedeco piece is a proprietary item and if we lose bulbs in
the disinfection process, the water goes to the creek not meeting permit requirements. Some of
the hardware in the specifications had spare parts included and some did not
1. West Side WWTP Security and Operational Camera
David Jurgens said he vetted the quote received by Brasfield & Gorrie on this item through the
City's IT division and it was determined that we could probably save $20,000 to $25,000 by
doing the work in-house. He requested this item proceed forward to the Council for approval.
In response to a question from Alderman Jordan, David Jurgens said the security camera is
not a no -bid contract. We received three quotes which are attached to the agenda.
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Alderwoman Allen moved that the West Side WWTP Security and Operational Camera
contract move forward to the City Council Alderman Jordan seconded the motion and it
passed unanimously.
2. Sewer Line Televising Equipment
David Jurgens said the biggest line we can maintain in the sewer system right now is a 30"
diameter line. We are increasing to about ten miles of 42" and 48" line and we have to have the
ability to inspect these pipes from the inside. The camera we have right now is a crawler
designed for a maximum size of 18" diameter pipes. We already have the camera equipment but
this item is a crawler with four wheels which is designed to through larger diameter pipes. This
is a non-competitive bid item because the crawler has to synchronize completely with the
equipment we have. He asked that this item go to the next City Council meeting for approval.
The Committee agreed that this item should be forwarded to the Council.
3. Ultraviolet Disinfection Parts and Equipment
David Jurgens said this is a proprietary system for ultraviolet disinfection. We are pleased with
how well the system is working but if the bulbs go out, we lose our disinfection so parts are
critical. This is the last line of defense before the water hits the creek. Because this is a
proprietary system, this is a no -bid item.
In response to a question from Alderman Cook, David Jurgens said the shelf life of these bulbs
is rated at five to seven years. But when the bulbs begin to get dim, they have to be replaced. The
rule of thumb is that you can figure on getting a year and a half to two years but it is possible
some could go out tomorrow.
In response to a question from Alderman Jordan, David Jurgens said this is a no -bid item
because no other bulb or ballast will fit this equipment. This is still a patented process and no one
else can make the replacement bulbs. Once the patent expires, others may make the bulbs.
The Committee agreed to forward this item on to the full City Council.
C. WL -6 Change Order Number 5
David Jurgens said this is a reduction change order in the amount of $73,000. He said he had
expected this to be a final change order but there will be one more small one to make changes to
allow for a higher electrical load.
d. Contract Legal Review -West Plant Construction Contract.
David Jurgens said this review is under way. We have not received a report as yet.
e. WSIP Easement Update
David Jurgens said staff has not had the opportunity to go out and walk EL -3 and EL -5 yet.
They hope to do it by the end of the week and have the plans and specs finalized so staff can
work on it while he is on military leave.
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f. WSIP Construction Schedule & Cost Update
David Jurgens distributed an updated WSIP Construction Schedule & Cost Update (Rainbow
Sheet).
In response to a question from Alderman Cook, David Jurgens said the containment pond at
the Noland Plant is substantially complete. We are now processing the final punch list.
David Jurgens said there haven't been any substantive changes. He said the Fayetteville Project
area total is remaining at about $178.5 million. The net Fayetteville cost remains exactly the
same at $180,683,701. Only a few projects are left to put out to bid — the Owl Creek Lift Station,
EL -3 and EL -5, the East Plant final contract (EP -3) and the last part of the Farmington
interceptor. The bottom line contingency for Fayetteville remains at $9.5 million. He said he
expects it to change based off the last two big bid items remaining.
4. Impact Fee Discussion
David Jurgens said staff has put together some information on starting points for discussion for
impact fee implementation.
Gary Dumas said the committee had suggested at the last meeting a $700 maximum first year
implementation. There was discussion that the majority of that ($663) would go to the needs of
the water system. If $700 is approved for the first year, the idea would be to increase it by $700
each year until we reach the maximum amount.
Alderman Jordan said it would be revaluated each year by the Committee.
Alderman Ferrell clarified that the Committee would approve the one year and then re-evaluate
it every year.
Gary Dumas said the information distributed gives a system to accomplish maximum
implementation if that is what the Committee is interested in. It would take three years at $663 to
reach the maximum impact fee for water (system only). The $37 (left from the $700) added to
$301 in year 2011 will reach the sewer system maximum as recommended by the report.
Alderman Jordan said it finally ends up to be around $5600 — if needed. It comes back to the
Water & Sewer Committee every year for re-evaluation.
Gary Dumas said by 2011 we will have implemented a system impact fee for both water and
sewer. After that we can begin looking at the local portion. Other cities can implement a local
impact fee any time they choose. In 2011 (the same year the sewer reaches maximum system
impact fee) we can put $399 into the water local if the committee chooses. That (water local)
would reach maximum in 2011 and in 2014 the sewer local would reach maximum.
Alderman Cook said Mr. Dumas is saying we want to bring the system up quickly first.
Alderman Jordan said that is fine — as long as we don't get any higher than the $1850 that we
are going to need.
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Gary Dumas said the system is the most critical. That's the big stuff. He said $700 seemed like
a reasonable number the other day when discussed. He said when you get into the bigger line
sizes, that impact fee does grow proportionally and becomes a fairly significant number.
Alderman Jordan said this is what he wants to do.
Alderman Cook said the Committee discussed phasing in the fee and asked staff to identify the
needs and how it could be phased in to satisfy those needs. From Mr. Dumas' presentation it
appears it can be phased in and still satisfy our needs.
Alderman Jordan said we can still get a review every year and we may not need as much the
next year.
Gary Dumas said staff has tried to implement as little as possible. He said that he believes
implementing a fee at whatever level is more important than what that level is right now.
Alderman Ferrell asked what the recommended total for water and wastewater will be and
when the effective date will be for implementation.
Gary Dumas said it is proposed to be implemented sometime in 2008.
David Jurgens said an actual date will depend on when the ordinance is done. The very earliest
it could be is in August and it will probably be September.
Gary Dumas said toward the end of the year is the most logical time. He said it could be January
1 if the Committee so chooses. He said at implementation the fee amount for single family
residential equivalent for water would be $971 and $872 for sewer. The total is $1843.
Alderman Ferrell asked for clarification in stating that if the Committee takes a vote today to
send this to the City Council, the vote would be that the $1843 would be the first year
implementation for the new water and wastewater fee for 2008 and each subsequent year we
would revisit and review it.
Alderman Jordan agreed that is right.
Alderman Ferrell asked how often we have to have an analysis or study.
Gary Dumas said given the difficulty in raising rates, he suggests that the Committee implement
the full schedule and say the Committee will review it every year.
Alderman Ferrell said that's exactly what he thought.
Gary Dumas said he suggests we bring in a consultant and do a study every three to four years.
Paul Becker said he would say every three to five years.
Gary Dumas said if the 2008 (first) increment is approved, it would take affect in probably six
months — say January 1, 2009. Sometime in the middle of 2009 the Committee would review it
for second year implementation date in January 2010. He suggested that for reference purposes,
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the table of fees that has been discussed here tonight go into the ordinance so the Committee will
have a number to look at each year
Alderwoman Gray agreed that is a good idea.
Alderman Ferrell moved the staffs suggested fee increase of $1843 with an effective date of
Jan. 1, 2009 and a suggested reevaluation in July or August 2009 for the next year (with no
other rates attached) be forwarded to the City Council for approval. Alderman Jordan
seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously.
Alderman Cook opened the floor for public comment
Steve Davis suggested referencing the date of the study so developers or others looking at multi-
year development projects would be informed of potential increased impact fees for the future.
David Jurgens suggested attaching all the tables as presented to the City Council agenda
packet. It wouldn't be part of the ordinance but it will be part of the public record.
Alderman Jordan so recommended and the Committee agreed unanimously.
Ron Petrie said the Committee will see the actual ordinance before it goes to the City Council.
There are some minor revisions to the ordinance that staff would like the Committee to consider.
5. Decentralized Sewer Discussion
David Jurgens said Tim Conklin drafted a white paper for decentralized sewer before he left.
Gary Dumas brought the Committee's attention to a paragraph in the white paper reading that as
a policy, wastewater impact fees should be adopted and collected to recoup future infrastructure.
This would be a charge that impact fees would have to be paid at the outset so the money would
be there even though there wouldn't be a system there yet.
Alderman Cook asked if someone is charged the impact fee and we have to spend that impact
fee within five years, what if that customer never gets the sewer service. Even if we are
increasing the capacity in that area, the sewer service might not reach that house.
Gary Dumas said we would use the impact fee money; it just wouldn't be used to give that
customer service. That's the way impact fees are now. The fee is used for the system, and
doesn't have to be used for a particular house.
Ron Petrie said it is written in the ordinance that the fee is spent as it is received, citywide.
Gary Dumas said staff believes that at some point in time the on-site waste disposal system will
fail and will require municipal intervention. So that is a liability the City has out there.
Alderman Cook said he can see the argument of a future liability of the City.
Ron Petrie said the ordinance does allow that an acceptable use of impact fees is to extend
sewer to a development. They could actually get credit and extend it up front.
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David Jurgens said if the white paper matches the Committee's approval the ordinance can be
updated based on what it says
Alderman Cook said he thought we should tweak the ordinance and go ahead and take it to the
City Council.
Alder -woman Lucas said she thought the ordinance says we are not going to allow decentralized
systems to be developed in the City. The ordinance addresses those that are already in the City
and those that might be annexed in. She wondered if we are going to allow someone to build a
decentralized system in the City.
David Jurgens said no. But the ordinance recognizes that there are some unusual circumstances
whereby the Council on appeal could allow them within the City limits. It would not be a staff or
planning commission level approval — it would only be through the City Council.
In response to a question from Alderwoman Lucas, David Jurgens said the State code
addresses the size of the lot required and the permitting needed from the State for an individual
septic tank so our ordinance does not address this. This ordinance only addresses community
decentralized sewer systems.
In response to a further question from Alderman Lucas, David Jurgens said there is a
possibility that the City Council could make the decision to allow a decentralized sewer system
in the City. No one below the Council could make the decision.
Alderman Cook suggested that staff revise the ordinance based on the white paper and then take
this to the City Council.
6. Johnson Water and Wastewater Agreement
David Jurgens said the City of Johnson sent a letter requesting contracts pertaining to water and
sewer service in the area south of Clear Creek in Johnson. He said we currently provide
wastewater to areas of Johnson south of Clear Creek and by agreement with Beaver Water
District we already provide water service to all of Johnson south of Clear Creek, with one small
exception. The City of Johnson wants to formalize the agreements pertaining to water and sewer
service. He said he thinks we should keep the two separate. We do have an agreement with
Beaver Water District (vetted through ANRC) whereby we provide water services to this area
but it is not an agreement with Johnson.
In response to a question from Alderman Jordan, Gary Dumas said although we current
provide services, we have not provided any new sewer service, particularly west of Gregg Street.
Alderman Jordan asked if this would allow new sewer service west of Gregg Street.
David Jurgens said he thinks that is what they are looking for. They want to know the rules.
Alderman Cook said we already had one project ask for service and they were denied.
Gary Dumas said as the Committee is aware, staff is in negotiations with Johnson about some
potential de -annexations. He said it might be in our best interests to continue that negotiation
adding this item to the discussion.
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Alderman Ferrell said he thinks when we consider this we need to look at it as an economic
development factor.
Alderman Cook asked how quickly the negotiations are moving.
Gary Dumas said they are still talking. At the last meeting with Johnson they asked this
question and he told them he couldn't make a commitment on it. He told them they would need
to make the request through the Mayor and this Committee. He thinks it is in our best interest to
keep this as a part of the negotiations.
Alderman Ferrell said he concurs.
Alderwoman Gray agreed.
Alderman Jordan restated that he isn't running any more outside lines.
David Jurgens said we do provide water in Johnson so there are utility impacts to look at also.
Alderman Cook asked if the Committee has to respond to this right now.
Gary Dumas said they don't have to but he has no reason to go back and talk to Johnson more
until a decision is made. He has to have an answer before he can continue discussions. He said he
would like to have the answer tonight.
Alderman Ferrell moved that the Water & Sewer Committee will agree to consider this as we
move forward with negotiations with the City of Johnson. Alderwoman Gray seconded the
motion and it carried unanimously.
EPA STAG Grant Notification
David Jurgens said we did get a STAG grant in 2008 for $286,400. It is a matching grant and
has to come to the City Council for approval. He said we have been using STAG grants since
2004. We do have enough matching funds in the project and he would ask that this go forward to
the City Council.
The Committee agreed to send this forward to the City Council for approval.
9. Next Water & Sewer Committee Meetine
The next Water & Sewer Committee meeting was scheduled for July 29, 2008.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.
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