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Mayor Jordan
Chairman
Sondra E. Smith
Secretary
Marion Doss
Position 1/Retired
Pete Reagan
Position 2/Retired
Gene Warford
Position 3/Retired
Ronnie Wood
Position 4/Retired
Firemen's Pension and Relief Fund
Board of Trustees Meeting Minutes
October 28, 2010
Firemen's Pension and Relief Fund
Board of Trustees Meeting Minutes
October 28, 2010
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A meeting of the Fayetteville Firemen's Pension and Relief Fund Board of Trustees was held at
3:00 PM on October 28, 2010 in Room 326 of the City Administration Building.
Mayor Jordan called the meeting to order.
Present: Marion Doss, Ronnie Wood, Pete Reagan, Sondra Smith, Mayor Jordan, and
Kim Cooper, Longer Investments.
Gene Warford was absent.
Approval of the Minutes:
June 24, 2010 Meeting Minutes
July meeting was cancelled due to lack of a quorum therefore there are no minutes.
August meeting was cancelled due to lack of a quorum therefore there are no minutes.
September meeting was cancelled due to lack of a quorum therefore there are no minutes.
Pete Reagan moved to approve the June 24, 2010 Firemen's Pension and Relief Fund
Board of Trustees meeting minutes. Marion Doss seconded the motion. Upon roll call the
motion passed 5-0. Gene Warford was absent.
Pension List Changes:
Viola Louise Lee deceased October 7, 2010
Sondra Smith: She was a widow of a volunteer. Her pension amount was a little over $100 a
month.
Pete Reagan: Did she get the October check?
Sondra Smith: Yes, because we do not prorate during the month.
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Paul Becker: Her estate did.
Approval of the Pension List:
August, September, October and November 2010 pension lists
Sondra Smith: The only difference between October and November is Viola Louise Lee
deceasing. That reduced the pension amount for the month of November. Everything else is the
same.
Pete Reagan moved to approve the August, September, October and November, 2010
Pension List. Marion Doss seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 5-0.
Gene Warford was absent.
Old Business: None
New Business:
Viola Louise Lee deceased
Sondra Smith: There is a copy of the paperwork I received. Her benefits do not go to anybody
else so they stop.
NCPERS 2011 membership dues
Sondra Smith: I received the invoice for the NCPERS membership dues. We need to decide if
we want to approve payment of those membership dues.
Pete Reagan: In the amount of?
Kit Williams: Looks like $150.
Pete Reagan made a motion to approve the NCPERS membership dues. Marion Doss
seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 5-0. Gene Warford was absent.
Revenue expense report 08/31/10
Sondra Smith: That's the report that Trish in Accounting does to give you an idea of where you
are in your expenses and revenues. We also have a more updated one for September 30th
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Revenue expense report 09/30/10
A copy of the report was given to the Board
2009 Actuarial Valuation
A copy of the report was given to the Board
Sondra Smith: That is a copy of your actuarial valuation. I emailed that out so most of you
should have it.
Kit Williams: That was discussed Monday.
2010 turnback fund information
Sondra Smith: I did a spreadsheet so you could see the different years. It shows over the years
how your turnback.
Kit Williams: Looks like it is going down every year.
Pete Reagan: The fire future supplement is $20,664.
Sondra Smith: Yes. You're right Kit it has gone down. 2003 was a big year $412,000.
Paul Becker: There was a change in legislation back in 2003 and that's when they decided that
nobody could get more than 100%. Certain of the premium tax distributions were frozen so that
left more premium tax to be distributed over the rest of the one's who had not been getting over
100%. That was a short lived thing for three years and that went out in 2005. Chances are you
are going to see a decline because as you have new members come into the LOPFI program that
draws away from some of the premium taxes and the total distribution.
Kit Williams: When a retiree goes to the regular LOPFI then we have our share cut.
Paul Becker: No, they start with premium taxes in total and they make the distributions to all of
the pensioners. It's divided up between the old and the new pension fund but any new plans
coming into the fund detract from that. You have minimum percentages and all that we have
talked about before. The fact of the matter is they probably will continue to decline somewhat.
Sondra Smith: I sit on the Public Safety Board at the Arkansas Municipal League and they are
looking at changing the way the distribution is calculated at this time.
Paul Becker: That would positively affect us if did. It's not going to affect us enough to
resolve the problems but it would be a positive impact.
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Pete Reagan: It would affect the unfunded liability problem.
Paul Becker: It would to a degree.
Pete Reagan: To a degree yes. I will agree with that.
Paul Becker: But not enough to solve the problem.
Longer Investments:
Monthly Report
A copy of the report was given to the Board
2nd Quarter 2010 Report
A copy of the report was given to the Board
3rd Quarter 2010 Report
A copy of the report was given to the Board
Longer View
A copy of the report was given to the Board
Privacv Notice
A copy of the report was given to the Board
Kim Cooper: The first report is an appraisal that shows the value and your holdings as of
September 30th. At that point your domestic equities were 50.7% and the foreign equities were
4.4%. We were at 55.1 % equities so we need approval to be at that level for September 30th
Pete Reagan made a motion to approve the equity overage. Marion Doss seconded the
motion. Upon roll call the motion passed 5-0. Gene Warford was absent.
The yield is 3.43%. That is 75 basis points higher than the yield that you can currently get in a
ten year treasury. Elaine has spoke about this before but all through the year we have been
emphasizing dividend income as a defensive measure to get more total return from both your
dividend income and to boost your total portfolio return. In the period of declining interest rates
this 3.43% yield is higher than we can get in government bonds or in corporate bonds.
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Page two the mutual fund fixed is an investment grade corporate bond fund. It's currently
yielding 5.1% and since you have been holding that you've also had 8% in capital appreciation
on it. Your preferred debt securities are yielding 6.4% and corporate bonds 7.05%. We are
holding one 4% government bond. You've had 11 % in capital gains on that during the time that
we held it as interest rates drop plus you have earned 3.9% income. Your government agencies
are yielding 5.48% and you have no significant reinvestment or call risk on those.
On page three your alternative investments fund is a gold and silver fund. It's 3.1% of your
assets and you've had an 8.6% gain on that while you have been holding it. Your ending value is
$5,405,000. Your current annual income on the account is $179,500. Your yield is 3.65% and
that's with a 55% growth component.
Page four, five, and six is an update, we have included a holdings report portfolio appraisal as of
yesterdays close. Your current value is $5.37 million. Since the end of the quarter your stocks
are up about 2.8% and your total account is up 1.4%.
Page seven is a realized gain and income summary. You're realized gains so far this year are
$158,030. Net income and expenses are $106,880, that's your stock dividends and bond interest
less expenses on the account.
Page eight is a fixed income distribution. Your current yield to maturity is 4.9% and your
current maturity is 6.3 years. We have been able to increase that over the yield you had on
December 31, 2009 by being opportunistic in purchasing bonds during the year while interest
rates have fallen on the 10 year from 3.8% to 2.7%. Your income has still increased on the
account. The distribution by maturity shows your bond holdings and when they mature. You've
got a stable income stream that's locked in with minimal reinvestment risk and still within a
moderate maturity structure. We have ample liquidity to tap higher yields if they appear with the
bonds that mature within the three year period. In this environment it's all about balancing
between securing income and off setting reinvestment risk while retaining the flexibility to
address inflation risk. You're postured to do that.
Page nine is a performance summary. Year to date your stocks have performed in line with the
S&P 500. Your equity mutual funds which are your foreign performance are well ahead of the
foreign index, out performing it by about 4%. Your bond returns are 10.3% that compares to the
Lehman Bond index of 4.7%. Year to date your total return on the entire portfolio is 6.4%. As
of the October pricing the account has fully recovered from the declines that began in 2008 while
the S&P 500 is still down 14%.
Page 10 is a summary of your contributions and withdraws since we started managing the
account. The total contributions have been $1.12 million. Total distributions have been $8.67
million.
In light of the meeting last week Elaine wanted me to point out something she had discussed
with you when we first started managing the account. This is something that was from the
minutes of the meeting in September 2002. She was discussing actuarial returns with you and
said it came down to employer and employer funding and benefits would have to be addressed.
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She did not believe there was anything on the investment side that will get them back to being
fully funded. They would have to get to $16.6 million and earn 6% on that and from $10 million
they were talking about a 60% return to get back to earning 6%. The things that were discussed
there were being discussed in 2002 also.
The final page is an account reconciliation that shows your beginning value in August 2002.
Contributions, distributions, income, your ending value, and your net investment return since that
time is $3.06 million.
Also attached is a copy of investment policy if you want to review that.
Pete Reagan: I want like to compliment Longer Investments, Kim and your staff for the good
work you do for us and we appreciate it.
Kim Cooper: Thank you. We appreciate all of you as well.
Informational:
2011 MeetinE Schedule
A copy of the meeting schedule was handed out to the board.
Sondra Smith: The November meeting has been changed due to the Thanksgiving holiday. I
have the months listed that Longer Investments will be here on the new sheet so everyone will
know when they are going to be here.
Meeting Adjourned at 3:20 PM
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