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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2006-11-02 MinutesCity Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 1 of 13 Member Aldermen Mayor Dan Coody Ward 1 Position 1 - Robert Reynolds V10 Ward 2 Position 2— Kyle Cook CityAttorney Kit Williams � 1 Ward 3 Position 2—Robert Ferrell Ward 4 Position 2 - Lioneld Jordan City Clerk Sondra Smith ARKANSAS City of Fayetteville Arkansas City Council Street Committee Meeting Minutes November 2, 2006 A meeting of the Fayetteville City Council Street Committee was held on November 2, 2006 at 4:30 p.m. in Room 326 of the City Administration Building located at 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas. MEMBERS PRESENT: Alderman Lioneld Jordan, Chair; Alderman Kyle Cook, Alderman Robert Ferrell, Alderman Robert Reynolds Other Aldermen Present: Alderman Shirley Lucas Staff Present: Ron Petrie, Terry Gulley, Tim Conklin, Paul Becker, Jeremy Pate, Gary Dumas, Mayor Dan Coolly, Chris Brown 1. Call to order The meeting was called to order by Chairman Lioneld Jordan. 2. Approval of minutes from the October 5, 2006 Street Committee meeting. Alderman Cook moved that the minutes of the Street Committee meeting held on October 5, 2006 be approved as distributed. Alderman Ferrell seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. 3. Approval of the construction contract with GN Contractors, LLC in the amount of $275,571.00 for the Kings Drive Improvement Project. Ron Petrie said there were four responsive bidders on this project. There was one bidder that was considered non-responsive. The numbers range from $275,000 to $527,000. Staff recommends the low bid of $275,571. The bid is significantly less than staff's estimated budget of $408,000. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 2 of 13 Alderman Reynolds said he was at the bid opening and was happy to see the figures. Alderman Cook asked if staff is comfortable with the $275,000 bid. Ron Petrie said we have a very good set of plans and a good bid package that was put together by McClelland Engineers. He feels there is enough in the plans and bid package to cover us. He has asked for a 20% contingency on this project. If additional dirt work is needed, the larger contingency would be there to cover it. Alderman Jordan opened the floor for comments from the audience. There being none, he brought the discussion back to the Committee. Alderman Ferrell moved that the contract with GN Contractors be approved. The motion was seconded by Alderman Reynolds and passed unanimously. 4. Discussion of a resolution to reduce the right-of-way dedication required from North Street centerline from 55 feet to 44 feet in order to accommodate the existing structure and proposed development for property located at 1104 N. College Avenue Jeremy Pate referred the Committee to a map in their agenda packet showing the project. The project is at the northeast corner of North Street and College Avenue. It is currently a used car dealership which also sells guitars and other things on consignment. It was formerly a drug store. The applicants are proposing to revitalize the structure and utilize the property (along with an addition) as a restaurant. In order to do add the addition, a couple of things are required. The addition would be within the Master Street Plan right-of-way. There are actually two additions, one on the east side and one on the north side. The addition encroaches into both the building setback and the right-of-way (he clarified that it is not the platted right-of-way, but only the Master Street Plan right-of-way, which is at this point just a line and not dedicated). The applicants have already obtained their variance from the Board of Adjustment and the Planning Commission and Planning staff is recommending approval with the condition that 44 feet from centerline on North Street is dedicated. Staff feels the 44 feet from centerline is enough to accommodate a turn lane at that location. That right-of-way dedication will take in some of their parking area so staff has written into the condition that the City recognizes that the existing parking will be located within the right-of-way. Also that the parking may remain until such time as the right-of-way is necessary for the City to construct a turn lane or if there is a new building development, at which time they would need to go back through the planning process. Two additional conditions involve ingress and egress and the curb cuts on North Street and College Avenue. There is also a condition regarding the landscaping in order to meet City code. Alderman Reynolds asked if there would be a change in the elevation. Jeremy Pate said it will stay the same as it is now. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 3 of 13 In response to a question from Alderman Cook, Jeremy Pate said staff will be looking at pavement marking and signage in the area to assist with traffic flow Alderman Jordan opened the floor for comments from the audience. There being none, he returned the discussion to the Committee. Alderman Ferrell moved that the resolution be approved as presented. Alderman Reynolds seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. 5. Street Bond Program Update A. Staff presentation of schedules, signage and newsletter Alderman Jordan said the suggestions regarding the signage, newsletter and timelines came from the Street Committee and he wanted to thank the Committee members for their input. Ron Petrie said all the information presented is still in draft form in order to take into account any further input from the Committee. He presented a blow-up of the timeline and explained it to the Committee and audience. He said this timeline will be continuously updated to show current progress. He explained the colors and lines on the schedule and what each represents, from engineering to completion. He said the four AHTD projects are not shown because the City has no control over those schedules. Alderman Cook said it is important that this information be available to the public so they stay informed about the progress on the projects. He said there will be some eb-and-flow in every phase of each project in the program and finish date is a target date. Ron Petrie agreed that some projects will finish ahead of schedule and some, for unforeseen reasons may be slightly behind schedule. He said he doesn't anticipate any long delays but if any delay occurs, there will be a reason for it and it will be explained clearly to the public. Everyone agreed that the chart is a good tool and will be of great benefit in providing accountability to the citizens. Ron Petrie said there will be an additional chart to reflect the budgets for the projects. He also presented samples of signs that will be posted at the project locations. The signs for the AHTD projects will be worded a little differently because we won't have dates to put on them, but all other signs will show date of completion of the project. He also talked about a newsletter that is being designed to possibly send out with utility bills. The newsletter will include complete updates on the projects, a map of where the project is located and one particular project will be the focus of each newsletter edition. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 4 of 13 In response to a question from Alderman Ferrell, Chris Brown said that the initial submittal for the Economic Development Corridor will be in January and completion of the final report will be in March 2007. Alderman Jordan opened the floor for public comment. There being none, the discussion was returned to the Committee. B. Approval of an engineering contract with Garver Engineers in the amount of $227,550 for the surveying and preliminary engineering services associated with the Cato Springs Widening project Chris Brown said the Cato Springs Road project is approximately a mile long with boundaries at Hwy. 71B and Razorback Road. It will be two and three lanes, adding curb -and -gutter and sidewalks. The total project cost is $5 million. We have $2.7 million in Federal funding for the project. We are ready to move forward. Staff has negotiated a contract with Garver Engineers for conceptual design services. The scope of work for the project includes traffic studies, surveying services, evaluation of the bridge on Cato Springs Road, environmental documentation and conceptual design services. It is approximately a four-month contract and the total fee for the project is $227,550. After this contract is completed we will move into the final design phase and get the plans ready for construction. In response to a question from Alderman Reynolds, Ron Petrie said the only portion of the project that may have a median is the portion that is adjacent to the Arkansas Research & Technology Park. The remaining project will be two lanes except at the intersections. In response to a question from Alderman Ferrell, Chris Brown said the primary reason staff has stopped the project at the conceptual design stage is because with the Federal funding the highway department is involved in the review. We have to get an agreement put together with the highway department and some of the elements of that agreement could possibly change the way we do the design. Staff wants to get the design started, get the agreement developed and then when the amendment to the contract is done, we'll know exactly what the scope will need to be so that the highway department is satisfied. Ron Petrie added that we don't know the extent of the bridge work. There are traffic studies involved for a possible signal on Hwy. 7 1 B and Razorback Rd. We don't know at this point if the design will include this. Alderman Jordan opened the floor for public comment. There being none, he returned the discussion to the Committee. Alderman Reynolds moved that the engineering contract with Garver Engineers be approved Alderman Ferrell seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 5 of 13 C. Approval of an engineering contract with Carter & Burgess in the amount of $233,148 for the surveying, engineering, and bidding services associated with the Garland Avenue project. Chris Brown said this project includes Garland Avenue from 1540 to Howard Nickle Road. The project runs for about 3500 feet and will be five lanes with curb and gutter and sidewalks. The estimated project cost is $3.66 million. Staff has selected Carter & Burgess to provide design services and have negotiated a contract. The scope includes surveys, environmental documentation, drainage studies, preliminary and final design and bid services. We will then be ready to go to bid. The schedule includes about 250 days of design time and with review times, etc. it comes to about a 10 to 11 month contract. The total proposed fee is $233,148. Alderman Cook said there is a major trail connection going through this area so he wants to be sure there is coordination with the Parks department on that. Also, in regard to the Sam's Club going into that area, he said he believed there was some discussion about some traffic improvements they were going to do. He asked if they would be contributing to this project. Ron Petrie said the Sam's Club has some significant requirements associated with their development. Many of those requirements involve signalization and left -turn lanes. Staff will have to determine how it will all fit together. In response to a question from Alderman Ferrell, Chris Brown said Carter & Burgess will develop cost estimates with quantities throughout the different stages of the project but the final design will include final quantities. Alderman Ferrell opened the floor to comment from the audience. There being none, the discussion was brought back to the Committee. Alderman Ferrell moved that the engineering contract with Carter & Burgess be approved Alderman Reynolds seconded the motion and is passed unanimously. D. Approval of an engineering contract with CEI Engineering Associates, Inc. in the amount of $88,380.00 for the surveying, engineering, and bidding services associated with the Gregg Avenue Improvement project. Chris Brown said this is one part of the Wilson Park and Washington/Willow area transportation improvements. This contract is to add a southbound right turn lane on Gregg Ave. to North Street and between North Street and Prospect we are looking at adding a small median to help with traffic calming. The project will include looking at overlaying and some minor pavement repairs for the street. The contract with CEI will include traffic studies, field surveys and design services all the way through to development of construction plans and specs. Something will probably have to be done with the signal to relocate the poles in order to install 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 6 of 13 the extra lane. Staff anticipates that this will be about a six month design contract. The total fee for the contract is $88,380.00 Alderman Cook said that the southbound right turn lane is going to be very difficult. It will take up part of the apartment parking. Alderman Ferrell said the information packet distributed mentioned "raised medians" and he asked how much the medians would be raised. Ron Petrie said the intent is to allow them to be driven over because we have so many driveways in the area. The idea is that people who live in the area can drive across the median when necessary. He said this is a fairly wide road and we are trying to narrow it some and still allow people to get in and out of their driveways. Alderman Jordan opened the floor for audience input. Glenn Sowder said that for people who live on this street, the 30 to 40 mph traffic is very dangerous. He hopes this is taken seriously. Alderman Cook moved that the engineering contract with CEI Engineering be approved Alderman Reynolds seconded the motion and it passed unanimously. E. General update on the remainder of the Street Bond projects. Chris Brown said the update on the Street Bond projects is similar to what was provided at the last meeting. He highlighted a couple of issues. He said after meeting with the neighborhood and getting their comments, staff has completed the plans for traffic calming in the Washington/Willow neighborhood. Staff still needs to get with the Wilson Park neighborhood and finalize the traffic calming plan in that area. After that is completed, staff can put together some details and specifications and get ready to bid out the traffic calming portion of the project. Alderman Cook asked what the bridge rehab for Maple and Lafayette bridges would entail. He said one of the bridges is pretty messed up since a car hit it. He wondered if we would try to match what was originally built or rebuild. He wondered to what extent this rehab would go. Ron Petrie said this project would be contracted out to someone who specializes in bridge rehab in order to get an answer to these questions. Staff's intent is to bring the bridges back to their original, historic condition with the internal lighting, rails, etc. That portion of the contract is a little later in the schedule. Staff has many questions also about how exactly it can be done and they feel they need experts to help them make the decisions. Chris Brown said the field surveys for Mt. Comfort Road are well underway. The traffic study is nearing completion and staff expects to get the study report in mid-November. The 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 7 of 13 Expressway Corridor citizen survey has so far garnered about 600 hits. The site will continue to be out there through November. After that staff will take the site down and begin compiling the information. The traffic counts on this project have been completed and Carter & Burgess will be developing the traffic model, looking at some of the potential projects and putting some conceptual plans together. He expects to see some preliminary information in January. Staff has received word that the Arkansas State Highway & Transportation Department has started the design work on Crossover Road and a public meeting is planned for late January or early February 2007. Ron Petrie added that staff is in the process of negotiating the contract with McClelland Engineers for College Avenue. That contract will come to the Committee at the next meeting. Alderman Ferrell requested that staff let him know as soon as they find out about the public meeting on Crossover. Alderman Jordan opened the floor for audience comment on this item. There being none, the discussion was returned to the Committee. F. Discussion of property purchase on Adams Street for possible future improvements associated with the Gregg Street project. Ron Petrie said this item was discussed at the last Street Committee meeting. Staff has been contacted by property owners with property on both Gregg Street and the corner of Adams Street & Frisco who are interested in selling their property to the City. The Committee had requested that Mr. Petrie gather more information about the property and he has done so. The County records indicate that the property on Gregg Street is a parcel of land that is 80' wide and 100' deep with a single family home with a living area of a little over 1300 sq. ft. According to the property owner, the property was appraised approximately one year ago at $150,000. The property on Adams & Frisco is 75' by 110'. It has a two-story duplex unit on it with a total square footage of 2240 ft. and is also appraised at $150,000. He said if the Committee wants to continue looking at this property, the next step would be to start working on some type of real estate contract, get new appraisals, etc. Alderman Jordan asked for input from the Committee. Alderman Cook said he wasn't sure if he should participate in the discussion since his father-in- law owns the land on either side of these two properties. Alderman Jordan opened the floor to audience comments. Glenn Sowder said he questioned the interest in this property in that neither of the properties affect the traffic calming plans for North Gregg. He wondered why the City would spend $300,000 for the properties. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 8 of 13 Ron Petrie said the only reason staff is bringing it forward is that they were contacted by the property owners and he wanted to give the information to the Committee. He also said that the City has set aside $8.8 million dollars for future right-of-way acquisitions and cost shares for possible future bond projects. Through all the discussions on this project, a route was pretty much agreed upon to by-pass this area. Staff just wanted to bring the information to the Committee to decide on whether to proceed with the purchase. They are not making any recommendations one way or the other. Alderman Ferrell asked Mr. Petrie if he sees any strategic or long term advantage in pursuing purchase of these properties. Ron Petrie said there was a serious question about whether or not the Gregg Street property would be of any advantage to the City. However, if the City ever wants to move forward with the other design, the property on the corner of Frisco & Adams would help ease the curve there. If we feel we are going to do the project, it would be cheaper to buy the property now than it would be later. In response to a question from Alderman Reynolds, Ron Petrie said the bond money would be used for the purchase. In response to a further question, Mr. Petrie said there's another structure that would have to be purchased to complete the project, as well as several parcels of land. Alderman Cook said the Committee went through many different possible renditions of the project and this was the last plan. There was still some discussion after this one was decided upon. He said he can't say that everyone is happy with this design but it was the last one. Alderman Jordan said he doesn't like to start buying property that we may or may not need. Alderman Cook said he felt the first question that should be asked is if we are set on this final design for Gregg Street. Gregg Street improvement isn't in this first phase of the bond program so he feels it may not be a wise thing to proceed with the purchase with the uncertainty regarding the project. In response to a question from Alderman Ferrell, Ron Petrie said both property owners had approached the City with the offer to sell these properties. The properties wilt be put on the market regardless of whether the City wants to purchase them but the property owners wanted to give the City the first option to buy. Glenn Sowder said the Street Committee has discussed this plan many times over the past year and after a series of meetings, this final plan was approved by a small minority of neighbors. Up until that meeting, the majority on every occasion had voted to get the University traffic on the west side of the railroad tracks. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 9 of 13 In response to a question from Alderman Reynolds, Ron Petrie said there is no offer and acceptance on the table at this point. The issue could be further discussed at the December meeting. It was agreed that the Committee will sit on this until the December meeting and make a decision at that point. 6. Discussion of possible future improvements to Joyce Boulevard to the east of Crossover Road Terry Gulley said he has had several phone calls from citizens about this section of road. He said that there is a little rock house built right on the curve and there is a tree almost directly across from the northwest side of the house that sits in the ditch which has been hit multiple times. Staff has looked at what we can do in-house to improve the situation, possibly removing the tree and moving the ditch approximately three feet to the north. He expects that these improvements would cost somewhere around $10,000 to $15,000 with a lot of the expense depending on what can be done with the drainage. In response to a question from Alderman Ferrell, Terry Gulley said there is a development coming in right now to the north of Valerie before you get to the corner of Old Wire on the north side. Alderman Ferrell said he was wondering if there would be any improvements that will be required with the developments that come in or if this needs to be done right now. Terry Gulley said the need is pretty immediate. Off site developments will not affect this area. Ron Petrie said the developments that are in the works right now are in the County. They are large scale developments that the City has no review over. There is no mechanism for the City to require any off site improvements of them. In response to a question from Alderman Cook, Gary Dumas said he feels this is a safety issue that has been created partly by the increasing development of the county further to the east. He feels it should be done as quickly as possible. Alderman Cook said he is not against the project but if we use the money for this, it will take away money from something else in the City. We have a lot of needs and it is frustrating that the county development is putting pressure on this area. He does want to get this done also but we do have other priorities within the City. Alderman Reynolds said if it saves one life, we've made money. Alderman Jordan asked if there was any public comment. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 10 of 13 Charlie Sloan said he had talked to some of the neighbors in the area and they spoke about how many accidents had occurred here. He has talked to one of the larger property owners further to the east and he was very interested in annexing into the City as are most property owners in the area. He said as a developer he would gladly help cost share some of what is needed to fix a road and he believes other developers in the area would also be willing to help. It is a City street and it is a difficult situation. If the City can find a solution to get by until development happens that would be great. At this point those who own land and want to develop it cannot afford to develop it at the recommended limit of one house for two acres. Alderman Reynolds said he feels it is a safety issue and if we can spend marginal money to get it corrected, he feels we should do it. Gary Dumas said he doesn't believe this requires any action by the Committee. It is an in-house project and staff just wanted to let the Committee know what is being done. 7. Discussion of the 2007 Street Overlay Program Terry Gulley said this year there was approximately 14.8 new miles of street taken into the City through subdivisions. In addition there were 12.9 miles annexed into the City. This will be added to what we currently maintain, which is approximately 284 miles of City streets (350 miles counting State roads). Projecting the additional miles added each year for the next 15 years and we would potentially be maintaining 452 miles of streets. Currently we try to work on a 15 year cycle whereby each street is considered for overlay every fifteen years. Currently the goal is to rework 20 miles each year. There has been a 25% increase in asphalt supplies this year which was not anticipated when the CIP was done. The supplier is already telling us to expect another 25% increase for next year. So the budget for next year was based on that increase in cost while trying to repave 20 miles. This leads to the obvious need for additional funding. In response to a question from Alderman Jordan, Terry Gulley said we are working in the range of $1.8 to $1.9 million going into next year. After that staff will review the CIP. He discussed projections for additional funds needed through 2010. Alderman Jordan said he doesn't want to decrease the amount of roads overlaid because of a money issue. We need to maintain the roads and not get behind again. He only questions where we are going to get the money. Gary Dumas said that is something with which we will have to be wrestle during the budget process. Alderman Cook questioned whether we have the revenue stream to increase the funding and keep increasing it over the next few years. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 11 of 13 Paul Becker said we would have to look into the CIP which will be totally reanalyzed this next year. Basically it is a matter of deciding where the money will be allocated in the total package Alderman Ferrell asked if the Street Department has the manpower to do more than 20 miles per year if the money was there. Terry Gulley said he has requested no new personnel this year. As the miles to be maintained grows and as the sidewalk maintenance grows there will probably be a need for more prep crews. However, he doesn't anticipate asking for new personnel for another couple of years. He believes the crew he has could easily do 25 miles if the material was available. He said he just wanted to keep the Committee informed of the needs. No action is required. Alderman Jordan said the issues would have to be discussed during the budget process. 8. Informational Item regarding the Habitat for Humanity purchase of City property located on Huntsville Road and possible future street improvements Tim Conklin said on the agenda for the next City Council meeting there is an item to potentially sell eight acres of land to Habitat for Humanity. This is a project brought to staff's attention by Mayor Coody with regard to low impact development. City of Fayetteville staff met with Benton County Habitat and Washington County Habitat representatives and the University of Arkansas Community Design Center and have been working toward looking at how to potentially develop this eight acres into a low impact development type subdivision that would allow Habitat for Humanity to build houses and sell them. The City also approved a project for Seven Hills Transitional Housing with a condition that if they could not obtain the necessary funding, they would be allowed to build a driveway from Huntsville Road to access the project. He distributed a site plan for this project. Seven Hills has had some issues with funding and getting the project built. The difference between a public street and a driveway in this location is approximately $100,000. At this time Seven Hills has not completed constructing the driveway but they have done some undercutting and put some base in. Staff is bringing this forward because it is important if we continue to develop property to the south for Habitat that we do have a public street and not a private drive maintained through a POA. He said there are remaining funds in the Kings Drive project that could be a potential source for this project. Hugh Earnest said he spoke to McClelland Engineers this afternoon about the fact that the road doesn't go all the way to the Habitat property. There will be a gap between the Seven Hills portion and the Habitat portion. The $100,000 would only complete the road currently on the site plan but not necessarily all the way to service the Habitat portion. Tim Conklin said he believes the difference is about 630 linear feet and Habitat is aware of the issue. It will be up to them to seek funding to complete the connection to the road. He said he just wanted to bring the issue forward to the Committee as information. The UA Community 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 12 of 13 Design Center is applying for the grant for a Habitat demonstration project. If they receive the grant this will be an issue. With regard to timing, the driveway is under construction Ron Petrie said if we want to move forward with this as a cost share agreement, the first time we could get it on the City Council agenda is November 21 (the deadline for this is Friday, Nov. 3). It could become a time issue if we wait until the next Street Committee meeting to make a decision. In response to a question from Alderman Cook, Tim Conklin said that in his discussion with Jim Culbertson and Patsy Brewer, he understands the grant will fund the infrastructure for the project. To complete the gap between the end of the Seven Hills driveway and the beginning of the Habitat property could potentially cost another $250,000. This would depend on whether the Sage House project that was to on the property between the two other properties is still active and where the Habitat property will begin. The question now is whether we want to make the driveway to Seven Hills a public street and cost share with them while they are building it. Alderman Ferrell said he believes the City needs to help the not -for -profits where possible. However, it looks like there hasn't been some thorough planning by the agencies involved and some rushing has been going on. Alderman Reynolds said we are looking for money for the police/courts building and to fund the compensation plan. He doesn't know where the money is going to come from. Tim Conklin said the planning staff had a condition for the Seven Hills project that they wanted a street. Their project is approximately $1 million more than anticipated. The decision came to whether or not to move forward with the opportunity to continue with the project and build a driveway. Staff wanted the street but said if they couldn't find the funding to do the street, a driveway would be acceptable at this time. Then the Habitat project came forward and brought up the question of whether we want to come up with the additional funding to make it a street right now to provide access to the remaining 18 acre parcel. Gary Dumas said he feels Alderman Ferrell hit the nail on the head about proper planning in the past. It should have been done. However, we are at a decision point now where we can build the street and cost share some of that expense. (The total cost is $130,000 and the amount Seven Hills is about to spend is $36,000. He assumes the $36,000 would come off the $130,000). If we fail to do it today, at some point in the future the eight acres will be developed and we will have to build a street at a higher cost. If it remains a driveway, there will be the issue of who maintains it and when it fails, who pays for the work to be done to repair it. Terry Gulley suggested that if the Sage House project fails, the potential property to be sold to Habitat could be moved closer to the Seven Hills property and Habitat could develop the road on to connect to Seven Hills. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org City Council Street Committee Minutes November 2, 2006 Page 13 of 13 In response to a question from Alderman Lucas, Tim Conklin said he has not had any discussion with Sage House regarding their project Hugh Earnest said there is no movement that he is aware of from anyone he knows who was associated with the two year effort to construct something on that site. In response to a further question from Alderman Lucas, Tim Conklin said he will have to look into whether there is a limit on the Sage House lease of the property. Alderman Jordan said he wants some time to think about this. Some of it will be discussed at the Tuesday City Council meeting. He recommends that this be discussed at the next Street Committee meeting with more information provided. 9. Scheduling of the next Street Committee meeting. The next meeting of the Street Committee was scheduled for Thursday, November 30 at 4:30. 113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax) accessfayetteville.org