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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-12-03 - MinutesFAYETTEVILLE
PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
Opening:
The regular meeting of the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board was called to order by
Chairman Wade Colwell at 5:34 p.m. on December 3, 2007 in Room 326 of the City
Administration Building located at 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
Present:
Park and Recreation Advisory Board members Colwell, Davidson, Burke, Biendara,
Mauritson, Bider, and Hatfield were present; Davis was absent. Park Staff Edmonston,
Wright, Thomas, Jones, Trail Coordinator Mihalevich and audience were also in
attendance.
1. Approval of November 5th, 2007 PRAB Meeting Minutes
PRAB Motion: Davidson motioned to approve the minutes as written.
Hatfield seconded it. Motion passed 7-0-0 by voice vote.
2. Botanical Garden of the Ozarks Report Walt Eilers, Board
Member
Colwell asked if the trail continued with the flow of foot and bike traffic around
the lake.
Eilers said one of the issues was what surface would be. It needed to be
environmentally consistent with the Botanical Gardens. Butterfield Trail would
be a lateral connection to the lakeside.
Mihalevich said the trail was originally closer to Hwy 265, but was moved
because of the noise. There will also be a cost effective bridge and a
boardwalk.
Biller asked if he had talked to Kevin Bennoch about the new route.
Mihalevich said yes, he had walked it with him. There were some compromises
made. They want a nice view and a buffer from the lake. There is still lots of
work to be done.
Edmonston commented that it was a great meeting with the Springdale and
Fayetteville science teachers. She's very pleased with the progress of the work.
Eilers said the individuals that have been using the trail have been using the
Botanical Gardens parking lot. That has been a security issue, because several
pieces of construction equipment have been "borrowed". There is now a
storage area for the equipment, which satisfies the insurance company. The
Botanical Garden might put in a gate with a sign that says "open from sunup to
sundown", and is considering putting in a parking lot that connects directly
with the trail. This will be discussed with Ron Troutman.
Davidson asked how the membership drive is going.
Eilers said it was going great. 1800 people are getting a mailing requesting
possible membership gifts or maybe an end of the year gift to the Botanical
Gardens.
Davidson then asked how the reciprocal membership plan was going.
Eilers said the Botanical Gardens have agreed to the reciprocal agreement plan
with other gardens in the country. They are waiting for the other gardens to get
it into their systems so members can visit any of the 118 gardens in the country
on one membership. Eilers also said they are inviting different Chambers of
Commerce, WalMart, etc. to have their monthly meeting at the Botanical
Gardens and get the word out about them.
Davidson asked how the Parks board could help the Botanical Gardens.
Eilers replied that everyone was welcome to come to events, and then should
feel free to give suggestions. The person to contact for suggestions would be
Page Mulholland, the executive director.
Burke asked how the new plan for the trail would affect the length.
Mihalevich said that it would probably make it longer.
Bider wanted to know if the new plan would be brought to the Parks board.
Mihalevich said yes.
A citizen commented that the poison ivy along the trail was really bad.
Colwell replied that when possible we mow or hand trim the edges on the paved
trail.
The citizen replied that maybe spraying would be better.
Edmonston replied that we can't spray within 100'.
Burke asked if the trail would follow the contours.
Mihalevich replied that the nature trail would stay the same for the most part.
It's possible that the nature trail would be put down Butterfield Stagecoach,
with a dirt surface, like it was long ago.
3.
Walnut Crossing Park Land Master Plan Kim Hesse, Rausch
Coleman Land
Development
Staff Recommendation: Approval of park master plan as submitted
Mauritson asked what type of surface the playground would have.
Hesse replied it would be soft tile.
Colwell commented that it was a pretty large area for soft tile.
Hesse said it looked large on the picture, but it is in proportion to the size of the
playground equipment. She said the neighborhood chose the playground
equipment.
Mauritson wanted to know what the dotted line was on the picture, and whether is
was a potential for a trail.
Hesse said it was the tree preservation line.
Colwell wanted to know if there was curbside parking for the people who aren't
within walking distance of the park.
Hesse replied no, there were no parking spaces.
Mihalevich asked if a trail will be built.
Hesse replied that they would do this part, as she pointed to an area on the map.
She said the part they would build would be an eight foot wide trail. They will
excavate and bring in hillside, and then asphalt. It will be a pretty solid trail.
PRAB Motion: Colwell motioned to accept staff recommendation to approve
the park master plan as submitted. Mauritson seconded the motion. Motion passed
7-0-0 by voice vote.
4. Walnut Crossing Subdivision Park Naming Kim Hesse, Rausch
Coleman Land
Development
Hesse told the history of the parcel of land. After three or four meetings, the
neighborhood voted to name the park Holland Park, named for the family that
owned the land until the 1970's, when Rausch Coleman bought the land.
Hesse said that the neighborhood voted to name the park Holland Park. The other
name choices were Kessler, Deer Crossing, and Elmwood Park.
Colwell said it would be nice to have the family history on a plaque in the park.
Mauritson said he agrees with Colwell about the history plaque.
PRAB Motion: According to the Facility naming policy the recommendation is
tabled until the next PRAB meeting in order to allow for public input. Mauritson
motioned to table. Bider seconded it. Motion passed 7-0-0 by voice vote.
5. Park Land Dedication
Carole Jones, Park Planner
Project History:
This project was presented to PRAB on 8-7-06 with 26 single family proposed
units. PRAB made a recommendation of accepting approximately 0.83 acres of
30' trail corridor and allowing drainage of the future phase of the development
to be piped under the trail at the developer's expense. Additionally any damage
to the trail must be repaired at developer's expense.
The current project proposes 51 single family units.
Development Name:
Engineer:
Owner:
Location:
Park District:
Units:
Total Acres:
Land Dedication Requirement:
Money in Lieu Requirement
Existing Parks:
Developer's Request:
Staff Recommendation:
Mt. Comfort Place
H2 Engineering
Bleaux Barnes
South of Mt. Comfort Rd., east of
Bridgeport
NW
51 Single Family,
Approximately 10.95 acres
1.22 acres
$48,960
Clabber Creek trail corridor, Red Oak Park,
Hamestring Creek trail corridor
Dedication of approximately 0.83 acres of
trail corridor and approximately $15,600
remaining fees in lieu. Additionally, the
developer requests to reserve a temporary
drainage easement for the trail corridor and
requests that the City construct the trail
within 2 years of the land dedication.
Dedication of approximately 0.83 acres of
trail corridor and approximately $15,600
remaining fees in lieu. Additionally, staff
recommends allowing a temporary drainage
easement for the development and agrees to
construct the trail within 2 years of land
dedication, depending on approval of
funding by City Council, to construct the
trail.
Estimated Annual Maintenance: The annual maintenance cost and man hours
for the proposed trail (1,200 If) is anticipated
to be $420 and 1.0 hour, respectively.
Developer's Comments:
Justification: Hamestring Creek is shown on Fayetteville
Alternative Transportation and Trails Master
Plan as a trail corridor. Additionally Red
Oak Park is located within a''/z mile and will
serve the recreational needs of the
development.
Jones told the Parks board that Jeremy Thompson, H2 Engineering, would like the money
in lieu applied toward the trail.
Thompson said that the owners wanted to market the trail. They would like to start it, and
construct about two thirds of it, or whatever the money would cover.
Mauritson asked if the money in lieu had to go toward the quadrant.
Edmonston replied yes, it had to go toward the quadrant, but not necessarily toward the
particular project. If the contractor can build it cheaper than the City, that might be
something to look at. She said she would like to see Matt's cost versus their cost.
Bitler asked if Transportation's budget would normally pay for the cost.
Edmonston replied yes.
Biendara asked if this request would go through the Trails Committee also.
Mihalevich replied that they approve where the trails go, and also prioritize them.
Mauritson said that his concern was that this discussion was about making a change to
the normal process, and then the end result would be that the trail still wouldn't be totally
complete.
Davidson said he didn't think that PRAB could approve this request, because of the
economics.
Thompson asked if the board could approve the original proposal tonight, and then let H2
Engineering do a cost estimate in order to bring it back before the board.
Mauritson asked if he meant that a proposal would be put together, and then taken to the
Trails Committee.
Thompson then said that it sounded like it was a tremendous idea, but they would stick to
what was originally proposed.
Biendara asked what would happen if the trail can't be done in two years.
Jones replied that if the City still has the corridor dedicated, we could get it as soon as
possible.
PRAB Motion: Colwell motioned to accept the staff recommendation. Mauritson
seconded the motion. Motion passed 7-0-0 with voice vote.
6. Park Land Dedication
Development Name:
Engineer:
Owner:
Location:
Park District:
Units:
Total Acres:
Land Dedication Requirement:
Money in Lieu Requirement
Existing Parks:
Developer's Request:
Staff Recommendation:
Developer's Comments:
Carole Jones, Park Planner
The Shoppes and Residences at Forest Hills
Morrison -Shipley
Forest Hills Development Co., Inc.
West of I-540, south of Wedington Drive
SW
458 multi -family units; 96 single-family
units
82.38 acres
10.1 acres
$403,600
Dale Clark Park
Money in lieu
Money in lieu
Justification: The proximity to Dale Clark Park is the primary reason for the
request of money in lieu of land. The developer is also providing small green
space areas owned by the POA within the development.
Someone asked where the trail was.
Mihalevich said it was on the south side of Persimmon now. The City is looking to put a trail on
the north side from Owl Creek to Shiloh.
Colwell wanted to know about the green space. His concern was that there will be 1100 to 1200
residents. He wants to know where the kids will play. He would like to see more green space.
Corey Robertson with Morrison/Shipley Engineers said there are several areas that are developed
as parklike areas. It is more naturalized on the south end.
Biendara said she saw this map last week, but it was different.
Robertson said they got some different info. The area on the south end was decreased a little bit,
but the 25% is still maintained.
Hatfield asked if there would be any spaces for playgrounds.
Robertson said the area around the detention pond would most likely be a playground.
Hatfield asked if it would have water.
Robertson said yes.
Mauritson then asked if there would be barriers around the water. He was concerned about
children being around water.
Robertson said the water would be tapered. If any barriers are put up, it would be the developer's
decision.
Colwell asked about a certain area on the map. He was hoping it was green space.
Robertson said it was a concrete area, but there are areas in the development that are pocket
parks.
Mauritson said there were lots of buildings, but no green.
Hatfield said that he was looking at the date on the letter. He wanted to know if the project came
in on time.
Jones said yes, the requirements were met.
Edmonston said that because of the pocket parks, Staff felt more comfortable with the
recommendation.
Mihalevich asked if the trail was six feet wide, and on the north side of Persimmon.
Robertson said yes.
Mihalevich said it needed to be twelve feet wide, instead of a six foot sidewalk. Ozark Electric's
part is twelve feet, so it needs to be continued on the north side of Persimmon. It will hook up
with Shiloh Trail.
Edmonston said Dale Clark Park is in the area.
Jones said Owl Creek School is there also.
Hatfield said that his concern was that in two to three years there will be a lot more people living
to the south in that development. Some of the ratios will change, and there may be more green
space needed than is being planned for.
Biendara asked if the condos would have a play area in the center.
Robertson said there would be a clubhouse area and small playground area. There has to be those
types of areas for it to be marketable.
Bitler asked Edmonston if there was any land in the area of Dale Clark Park that could be added
to this development.
Edmonston said no.
Hitler asked Robertson if he anticipated any marketing issues with the density and the low green
space.
Robertson replied that the City doesn't think it is dense enough. The developer understands the
need for green space. This development doesn't fit into City guidelines.
Mihalevich commented that the twelve foot wide trail along Persimmon should have a motion.
Colwell said he didn't like the density, but liked the trail.
Hatfield said the soft surface trails may not be assessable to wheelchairs. It's not an all weather
surface.
Robertson said there will be sidewalks through Salem Street.
Hatfield said that if this plan showed specifically what recreational opportunities would be
available, he would feel a whole lot better about supporting the plan.
Mauritson said that the plan just doesn't show enough info. He doesn't feel like there is enough
green space. He's having a problem envisioning it from the plan drawing. He said he is also very
nervous about not having barriers around the water with a playground right next to it, because of
personal history.
Hatfield said if we don't buy the land now, we won't get the land.
Jones said Staff looked at this area and wanted it because of the proximity to Dale Clark Park.
Edmonston said we need the trails and tree preservation. The tree preservation is open to the
public. There would be no playground equipment -it would be just a public space.
Mihalevich said there is recreational verbiage for tree preservation.
Colwell asked where the front door of the store was located.
Robertson showed him on the map.
Colwell said it was facing the back of buildings. It should be on the other side facing the street.
Robertson said that's how Neighborhood Market wanted to do it.
Bitler asked Edmonston to remind everyone of the appeal process if this request is denied.
Edmonston replied that if the Parks board and developer can't come to a mutual understanding, it
goes before the Planning Commission for their determination. It's only had to be done once.
Robertson said that the south end of the area would be tree preservation and a publicly used area.
Edmonston asked Mihalevich if there would be picnic tables and benches.
Mihalevich said it could be written in and could be very specific about what would be there, so
there would be no misunderstanding.
PRAB motion: Davidson motioned to accept the staff recommendation. Mauritson seconded it.
Motion passed 4-3-0 by voice vote, with Hatfield, Davidson, and Mauritson casting the
dissenting votes.
7. Park Land Dedication
Development Name:
Engineer:
Owner:
Location:
Park District:
Units:
Total Acres:
Land Dedication Requirement:
Money in Lieu Requirement
Existing Parks:
Carole Jones, Park Planner
15`h Street Apartments
HGM Engineering
CPD Investments
South of 15`h Street, west of S. School
SW
366 multi -family units
17.47 acres
6.22 acres
$248,880
Abuts Greathouse Park, Walker Park, World
Peace Wetland Prairie and park land at
Aspen Ridge and Town Branch Creek trail
corridor are within one half mile.
Developer's Request:
Easement and construction of the College
Branch trail from the north property line to
the south property line and dedicate money
in lieu.
Staff Recommendation:
Easement and construction of the College
Branch trail from the north property line to
the south property line and dedicate money
in lieu, exact trail alignment to be approved
by Trails Coordinator.
Developer's Comments:
Justification:
The Town Branch Creek trail and College
Branch trail will connect the residents of this
development to Greathouse Park, Walker
Park, the World Peace Wetland Prairie and
park land at Aspen Ridge. Additionally the
developer is proposing a POA open area
with a basketball court and clubhouse. The
existing parks in the area will serve the
recreational needs of the development.
Edmonston commented that Greathouse Park has been underused.
Hatfield asked what the cost of this project is.
Mihalevich said they are offering the easement, construction, and money in lieu. They
will not construct the bridge. We could maybe use the money in lieu.
Bitler asked if that needed to go into the motion.
Edmonston said they would do it.
Mauritson asked if they could hold them to it.
Hatfield then asked if we had anything in writing.
Mihalevich said no, and said we can't hold them to it.
Mauritson said that he was not comfortable with the drawing. It didn't have enough detail
on it.
Colwell said that we need to request a trail dedication easement.
Mihalevich said he felt good about the new location for the trail since it was close to Van
Buren.
Mauritson said he didn't see that it would be hard to reconfigure the trail if necessary.
Mihalevich responded that they were okay with moving it around. It will still be right by
the parking lot.
Hatfield said he wanted it to be clarified that the easement and construction of College
Branch trail not be out of the park land dedication.
PRAB motion: Davidson motioned to accept the staff recommendation. Mauritson
seconded it. Motion passed 7-0-0 by voice vote.
8. Park Land Dedication Carole Jones, Park Planner
Project History:
This project was presented to PRAB on 9-8-03 with 12 single family proposed
units. PRAB made a recommendation of accepting money in lieu of land
($6,600). The project was not constructed, and the fees were not paid. The
project is currently proposed as seven single-family units and 21 multi -family
units as outlined below:
Development Name: Stonewood Gardens
Engineer:
Owner:
Location:
Park District:
Units:
Total Acres:
Land Dedication Requirement:
Money in Lieu Requirement
Existing Parks:
Developer's Request:
Staff Recommendation:
Developer's Comments:
Justification:
There was no discussion.
Jorgensen & Associates
Stonewood Gardens, LLC
East of Arkansas Highway 265 and south of
Albright Road
NE
7 single-family units; 21 multi -family units
4.64 acres
0.525 acres
$21,000
Lake Fayetteville and the Botanical Gardens
are located within %2 -mile radius from the
site.
Money in lieu
Money in lieu
The relatively small size and proximity to
Lake Fayetteville Park are the two primary
reasons for the request of money in lieu of
land. The developer is also providing small
green space areas owned by the POA within
the development.
PRAB motion: Mauritson motioned to accept the staff recommendation. Colwell
seconded it. Motion passed 7-0-0 by voice vote.
9. Park Land Dedication:
Carole Jones, Park Planner
Project History:
This project was presented to PRAB on November 8th, 2006. PRAB recommended
accepting money in lieu, land, and services. as stated below:
Dedicate approximately 0.36 acres of land for the trail and construct 856 if of 12'
trail. All trail layout, design and construction shall be approved by park staff.
Trail shall be constructed per City standard construction details for an asphalt trail.
Approximately 5001f of the trail will serve as the sidewalk; therefore, costs for land
and construction for this portion will not be counted towards the park land
dedication requirement.
In addition, approximately 0.86 acres located on the southern edge of the
development will be dedicated. This property has the potential to be added to on
the south side from the adjoining property. The remaining dedication would be
accepted as money in lieu. The following is a breakdown of the previous dedication
requirements.
$122,100.00 required
$28,212.50 (1.22 acres for trail and park)
$24,270.69 (construction costs of trail**)
$69,616.81
$12,500.00 (amount required for sidewalk construction)
$82,116.81 total remaining requirement
**The trail construction costs are based on approximately 500 l.f. of 7' trail and 356
If of 12'trail. Typical sidewalk construction costs are included for the 5001f of
trail that functions as a sidewalk.
Resolution 190-04 regarding the park land dedication requirements for the project
was passed and approved December 7th, 2004.
Current Status:
The trail corridor (0.3532 acres) and park land (0.8581 acres) deeds have been
received. A payment of $23,704.06 for remaining fees in lieu has been received.
The current proposal includes 288 multi -family units. This is a change from 220
single family units.
Development Name:
Engineer:
Owner:
Location:
Park District:
Units:
Total Acres:
Land Dedication Requirement:
Money in Lieu Requirement
Existing Parks:
Developer's Request:
Staff Recommendation:
Estimated Annual Maintenance:
Developer's Comments:
Justification:
288 MF units = 4.9 acres
Aspen Ridge
Appian Centre for Design
Hank Broyles
South of 6`h Street, west of Hwy 71 B
SW
288 Multi -family
28 acres
4.9 acres, see below
$195,840, see below
Previously dedicated land for Aspen Ridge
and World Peace Wetland Prairie
Dedicate approximately 0.8 additional acres,
pay remaining fees in lieu.
Dedicate approximately 0.8 additional acres,
pay remaining fees in lieu. Dedicated land
must be free from debris and stockpiles and
graded to match adjacent park land.
The annual maintenance cost and man hours
for the proposed undeveloped park land (0.8
acres) is anticipated to be $165 and 4.4
hours, respectively.
4.9 - 1.32 acres (credit for 55 existing SF homes) = 3.58 acres
3.58 acres - 1.21 (acres previously dedicated) = 2.37 acres
4.9 acres - 2.37 = 2.53 acres owed
2.53 — 0.8 additional acres =1.73 acres owed
1.73 acres x $40,000/acre = $69,200 owed
$69,200 - $23,704.26 previously paid = $45,495.74
$45495.74 - $54,163.49 (trail construction costs)= $-8,667.75
$-8,667.75 + $1,338 (land for sidewalk area) + $12,936 (sidewalk construction
costs) _ $5,606.25 owed
The trail has not been fully constructed at this point.
Colwell wanted to know how the staff felt about the land.
Edmonston said it was a welcoming area. It had a good focal point.
Hatfield asked if .88 acres was important to donate.
James Gipson, representative for Appian Centre for Design, said it wasn't a good place
for a development, but a good place for a park.
Burke asked why the trail cost is higher now than previously.
Bitler wanted to know if Parks and Recreation was being given credit for the trail.
Mauritson wanted to know if we got $54,000 worth of trail.
Edmonston said that the trail wasn't finished yet.
Bider commented that he was concerned about grandfathering in the cost, and whether
doing so was legal.
Edmonston said that Parks and Recreation's way of building trails has changed from the
past.
Gipson said that they are just following the original plan. Nothing has changed.
PRAB Motion: Mauritson motioned to accept the staff recommendation. Colwell
seconded it. Motion passed 7-0-0 by voice vote.
10. Budget Update: Connie Edmonston, P & R Director
Edmonston said another budget work session was scheduled on December 17, 2007. She
briefly went over the items cut from 2008 Parks and Recreation Budget.
11. Regional Park Update: Connie Edmonston, P & R Director
12. Other Business:
The Dale Clark Park Grand Opening is Thursday, December 06, 2007 at 3:30. Everyone
is to meet at the Boys and Girls Club for a short ceremony and to dedicate the park. Dale
Clark's birthday is also on December 6, 2007. This date has been declared Dale Clark
Day.
13. Adjournment: 7:45 p.m.