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HomeMy WebLinkAbout2007-10-11 MinutesMINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE
HISTORIC DISTRICT COMMISSION
A regular meeting of the Fayetteville Historic District Commission was held on October
11, 2007 at 5:30 p.m. in Room 111 of the City Administration Building, 113 W.
Mountain, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
ACTION TAKEN
Identification of Key Design Standards to include Discussion Only
in a local ordinance district for the Dickson Street
National Register District
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MEMBERS PRESENT
Leslie Belden
Cheri Coley
Ethel Goodstein-Murphee
Karon Reese
STAFF PRESENT
Karen Minkel, Long Range Planning
MEMBERS ABSENT
Vince Chadick
Tim Cooper
Rob Merry -Ship
STAFF ABSENT
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CALL TO ORDER: The meeting was called to order by Chair Goodstein-Murphree at
5:46 p.m.
I. Announcements
A. Karen Minkel, Senior Long Range Planner, announced that the next
Certified Local Government Meeting would be held in North Little Rock
November 8-10 and would include a one -day training for staff and
commissioners.
B. Minkel also announced that Staff would investigate whether the Air
Museum at Drake Field would make a good candidate for a local
ordinance district.
C. Minkel informed the Commission that her FMLA leave would begin
December 15, 2007 and end March 3, 2008. In her absence, Kristina
Jones, Long Range Planning Technician, would serve as staff for the
Commission.
II. Approval of the Minutes
MOTION to approve the minutes of September 13, 2007 with an amendment
to the dates of the Historic Preservation Alliance Conference from November
10-12 to November 8-10: Cheri Coley
SECOND: Leslie Belden
VOTE: The vote was unanimous to approve the minutes from the September
13, 2007 meeting, 4-0-0.
III. Identification of Key Standards for Dickson Street District
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree began by recapping information from previous
meetings, stating that Staff had provided the Commission with the Downtown Design
Overlay District Standards as well as the local ordinance district standards in Rogers to
give commissioners a frame of reference. She added that they should step into the waters
of design guidelines carefully and they might start by thinking about what their district
is—no superstar buildings, but a lot of background buildings. She emphasized that the
design standards would have to be carefully crafted in order to keep a sense of place. She
shared photos of aerials that were approximately one-year old, which she said gave a
sense of what happens when the scale of the buildings is manipulated. She pointed out the
tight streetscape from the former Brew Pub east.
Commissioner Belden pointed out that Dickson Street has never been a traditional main
street.
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Commissioner Coley added that the area has been unique.
Commissioner Belden said that the Uark Bowl is the most distinctive building, but still
not particularly distinctive or glamorous.
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree said that the Commission would have to think
about how to address open space.
Commissioner Belden said that she was torn mentally because what she liked about
Dickson Street and what would keep contributing buildings contributing were not
necessarily the same.
Commissioner Reese said that what she found so charming was the tightly spaced row of
buildings.
Commissioner Coley added that each building is unique to the one next to it; yet, they
all worked together. Plus, there is a unique mix of retail and churches.
Commissioner Belden said that one thing not to forget were the trees because they have
a human scale.
Commissioner Reese said that parts of the streetscape look like an old Western town
from the old Brew Pub to the Gypsy. She added that these buildings define Dickson.
Commissioner Belden added that she didn't want the on -street parking to disappear.
Commissioner Coley added that trees needed to be addressed at some point.
Commissioner Reese said both new and existing trees.
Commissioner Belden said that the allowing existing buildings to be taller, given their
scale, would change the character and not be the same.
Commissioner Coley asked about new buildings.
Minkel reminded the Commission of its previous decision to allow the Downtown
Design Overlay District to regulate infill.
Commissioner Belden said that the variety of differing heights contributes to the
character. She added that she would hate to lose this variety with one monolithic
structure.
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree asked what kind of language they had to prevent
someone from demolishing these buildings.
Commissioner Belden asked whether they were only talking about contributing
buildings when they discussed protection from alteration and demolition.
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Minkel clarified that the Commission can regulate any building that the commission
deems significant.
Commissioner Reese said the shopping center with the old campus bookstore was an
example.
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree asked if the Commission were discussing
maintaining what truly has historic value could there be a hierarchy in the ordinance.
Minkel responded that that decision would up to the Commission.
Commissioner Belden said that she thought it would be easier to deal with contributing
structures. Alternatives to these structures would need to conform to historicity, whereas
with non-contributing buildings, it is more about whether the building contributes to the
overall ambiance. She asked if the Commission wanted to treat them all the same.
Commissioner Reese said she thought they should all be treated the same or the
Commission would end up with owners who wanted to opt out but had contributing
buildings.
Commissioner Belden responded that if space gets filled, it becomes part of the district
and then the new building would be frozen. Some of the funkiness was because of
differences, and if the Commission disallowed new differences...
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree interjected that she didn't think they were
disallowing new differences.
Commissioner Reese said that if they were creating a local ordinance district, it would
seem that the purpose is preservation. If there were holes to be filled, the Downtown
Master Plan would take care of it. If the Commission wanted to preserve this area and
building owners wanted to maximize height and go to six stories, then did the
Commission have a fight on its hands? This would have to be approved by City Council.
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree said it would be a test of whether there was a
commitment to preservation. She thought that the public did not see of the benefit of a
local ordinance district to help control the character they were fighting for during the
passage of the Downtown Master Plan.
Commissioner Belden asked whether a lot that was partially building on could be added
to and whether it would be considered infill.
Minkel responded that it would be an addition unless the lot was split.
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree said that you could not make it something it's not.
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Commissioner Belden said that she heard the Commission saying that an owner could
not do what she was describing even if it were a noncontributing building.
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree cautioned that it was a delicate balance that could
get misplaced by a neo -traditionalist who wanted to make it Savannah or what have you.
Commissioner Belden said that George's was noncontributing. Would the Commission
say it could not change ever?
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree said she thought that preference should be given
to the streetscape. No building could be pulled out individually because it is in the
context of the block that it gains historical significance. The goal in Rogers was to ensure
continuity of streetscape. For example, if Common Grounds decided to build on the back
patio, it wouldn't bother her, but if it's a six -story sliver building, that's another story.
Commissioner Belden clarified whether they could have language that specifically
addresses the streetscape.
Commissioner Coley asked that if the most important point is to preserve the
streetscape, what would happen in a case where a building burnt down.
Commissioner Belden said that you would typically not try to build a building back
exactly unless it had some type of cultural significance.
Commissioner Goodstein-Murphree agreed to take the ideas and synthesize them for
the next meeting.
MEETING ADJOURNED: 6:49 P.M.
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