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A regular meeting of the Fayetteville Planning Commission was held on April 10, 2006
at 5:30 p.m. in Room 219 of the City Administration Building, 113 W. Mountain,
Fayetteville, Arkansas.
ITEMS DISCUSSED
LSP 06-1980: Lot Split (HOKE, 239)
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PPL 06-1920: Preliminary Plat
(DEPALMA ADDITION, 487)
Page 4
FPL 06-1910: Final Plat
(CLEARWOOD CROSSINGS, 323)
Page 4
R-PZD 06-1922: Planned Zoning District
(SCOTTSWOOD PLACE, 558)
Page 5
ACTION TAKEN
Approved
Approved
Approved
Forwarded
LSD 06-1974 (ARBORS AT SPRINGWOOD) Reconsidered and
Page 12 Tabled
CPL 06-2033: Concept Plat Recommendations
(HAMM SUBDIVISION, 220/221)
Page 14
ADM 06-2038• Administrative Item Approved
(BLUEBERRY MEADOWS)
Page 20
PPL 06-1886: Preliminary Plat Approved
(GENEVA GARDENS, 60)
Page 23
LSD 06-1994: Large Scale Development Approved
(TOYOTA OF FAYETTEVILLE, 248)
Page 31
LSD 06-1960: Large Scale Development Approved
(WRMC SENIOR CENTER, 211/212)
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LSD 06-1961: Large Scale Development
(WRMC ADMIN SVCS BLDG., EMERGENCY
SVCS, PARKING GARAGE, 211/212)
Page 51
RZN 06-2008: Rezoning
(CMN BUSINESS PARK, 172-211)
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ANX 06-2006: Annexation (BROWN, 295)
Page 62
RZN 06-2007: Rezoning (BROWN, 295)
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Tabled
Forwarded
Forwarded
Forwarded
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MEMBERS PRESENT MEMBERS ABSENT
Jill Anthes
Lois Bryant
Candy Clark
James Graves
Hilary Harris
Audy Lack
Alan Ostner
Christine Myres
Sean Trumbo
STAFF PRESENT STAFF ABSENT
Jeremy Pate
Suzanne Morgan
Andrew Garner
Jesse Fulcher
CITY ATTORNEY:
Kit Williams
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Chairman Anthes: Welcome to the April 10, 2006 meeting of the Fayetteville Planning
Commission. I would like to welcome our two new Commissioners tonight, Hilary
Harris and Lois Bryant. Thank you for joining us. We were sent a copy of minutes via e-
mail but we haven't seen them printed. Does anyone feel comfortable considering them?
We will wait until next time. I would like to remind all audience members to turn off all
pagers and cell phones. We will move to the consent agenda. We have three items on
the consent agenda:
LSP 06-1980: Lot Split (HOKE, 239)
PPL 06-1920: Preliminary Plat (DEPALMA ADDITION, 487)
FPL 06-1910: Final Plat (CLEARWOOD CROSSINGS, 323)
Would any member of the audience or any Commissioner like to remove any of these
items from the consent agenda?
Ostner: Madam Chair, I would like to make a motion to approve the consent
agenda.
Clark: Second.
Anthes We have a motion by Commissioner Ostner and a second by
Commissioner Clark to approve the consent agenda.
Roll Call: The motion to approve the consent agenda carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
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Old Business:
R-PZD 06-1922: Planned Zoning District (SCOTTSWOOD PLACE, 558): Submitted
by H2 ENGINEERING, INC. for property located at NE OF OLD FARMINGTON
RD.AND ONE MILE RD. The property is zoned R -A, RESIDENTIAL -AGRICUL-
TURAL and contains approximately 5.06 acres. The request is for a Residential Planned
Zoning District with 17 single family lots.
Fulcher: This item was heard at Subdivision Committee on February 16, 2006 at
which time it was forwarded to the Planning Commission, although we are
just hearing it this evening. The site is located northeast of the intersection
of Old Farmington Road and One Mile Road. The applicants are
requesting a Master Development Plan and Preliminary Plat Approval for
a single-family development which includes a maximum of 17 dwelling
units that consist of 11 single-family detached dwelling units and six
single-family attached dwelling units. Access to the site is provided by a
short cul-de-sac extending north from Old Farmington Road. There will
be an alley providing access from the rear that will extend to the east and
west that will provide access to the homes facing Old Farmington Road.
We are not recommending street connectivity to the north through the tree
preservation area and significant slope in the back. Lot 9 will serve as a
permanent tree preservation area containing approximately 32,900 square
feet. The Parks and Recreation Advisory Board recommended accepting
money in lieu in the amount of $9,435. Prior to Subdivision Committee,
we did receive some public comment regarding traffic and density and
items such as that. We included some of those comments in the packet —
all those comments received that were mailed back to us are in the report.
With that Staff is recommending approval of forwarding this to City
Council with 15 conditions of approval. Condition #1 — Planning
Commission's determination of street improvements. Staff is
recommending installation of 18' wide street from centerline from Old
Farmington Road including 18' of pavement, curb, gutter, storm drains
and a 6' sidewalk. We are also requesting these improvements be
continued west through the intersection to provide a safe transition
through that intersection of One Mile Road and Old Farmington Road.
Right-of-way will be dedicated 35' from centerline along the property's
frontage. Street lights will be provided every 300' along Old Farmington
Road. Interior streets will be constructed to a 24' width with a 40' right-
of-way with 4' sidewalks located on both sides. With that if you have any
questions, please ask.
Anthes: Thank you very much. We will now hear public comment on R-PZD 06-
1922. Would any members of the audience like to address this for
Scottswood Place? Seeing none, we will close the public comment
section. Does the applicant have a presentation?
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Hearne: Kipp Hearne with H2 Engineering. The developer is in agreement with all
of the conditions of approval with the exception of the 18' improvement
from centerline. Generally speaking, throughout the City where we have a
collector street, even though that is a 36' back-to-back section, usually
what we see is a 28' street built and a 14' improvement from centerline, so
we would request some discussion on that issue. We would also like to
note that we did add trees. I believe that that was an issue that was
brought up during Subdivision Committee as a concern along the frontage
of Old Farmington Road. We did make some modifications to the existing
houses and the footprints that we had there to accommodate that. I would
like to introduce Bill Helmer to give a little presentation on the houses
themselves.
Helmer: Bill Helmer, a representative of the developer. I think that included in
your packet is the same information that we have up here which gives an
overview of how the development would come together and the
architectural renderings of the individual units themselves. We went
ahead and put together some samples of the materials that we will be
using. They would be primarily brick or cultured stone on the outside
except maybe under covered porches and eaves and soffets we would be
using some vinyl materials. Basically, as Kipp mentioned, we did go back
after Subdivision and work with the Tree Coordinator and felt we could
get one tree in front of each house along Old Farmington Road which
obviously will add to that aesthetically. Other than that if you have any
questions that I might be able to answer.
Anthes: Do we have a Subdivision Committee report?
Lack: I remember that we did talk about streets some. I don't know if I
remember a determination on the 18' as opposed to 14' from centerline. I
think there was some discussion about the necessity of taking those
improvements through the intersection which definitely seems appropriate
to not create a dangerous condition at that intersection. I think that there
was some comment about the — considerable comment about the trees in
front of the buildings along the right-of-way and whether we could work
out a way to get trees along the frontage in front of the buildings and the
street, the cul-de-sac, and the density of the cul-de-sac was an issue that
you had. Otherwise, it does seem like an appropriate response to try to
pull the density to the streets and get away from the tree preservation area
and be able to save a large portion of trees as one preservation area. That
is the extent of my recollection.
Anthes: Thank you Commissioner Lack. Do we have any other discussion?
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Ostner: I have a question for the applicant. You mentioned you are trying to get
one tree per house or some mention of that. Where would those trees go?
Were they going to go in the front yards?
Hearne: The concern that was expressed to us was along Old Farmington Road,
driving by. We have a 40' setback from Old Farmington Road back to the
front of the homes. We have faced all the homes out to Old Farmington.
We didn't want to take the subdivision into the property and put up fences,
seal off the division from Old Farmington Road, embracing what is
already there, up and down Old Farmington Road. What we tried to do,
because of the 40' setback and easement, we tried to place a tree at the
corner of each house, between each house.
Ostner: So when you say front, the elevation facing Old Farmington.
Hearne: Right.
Ostner: Are those houses going to put up fences along those yards? As I am
looking at them, if they wanted some privacy, what would they do?
Hearne: The fronts of the homes face Old Farmington Road so there wouldn't be
any fences obviously on the front of them, or in the back alley.
Ostner: And the covenants cover that? That they are not to board fence their
property?
Hearne: Yes.
Myres: I'm wondering if Mr. Pate has any better recollection of the discussion of
the street width and why it was recommended by Staff to be 18' rather
than 14'?
Pate:
We had discussions about that recommendation a lot, almost every
development that comes through. We have to look at collector streets on a
case-by-case basis, what they are serving, how they are functioning. A
collector street in a residential subdivision which is only serving the
residents of that subdivision is quite different than a collector street that is
connecting Shiloh to Sixth Street, which is a principal major arterial. We
have a number of uses on this street. We also look at the condition of the
existing street and part of that evaluation is that it is very narrow currently.
We also look at the development that is being proposed and how much
burden and responsibility can be placed upon the applicant. We felt in this
situation that 18' from centerline cross section would be appropriate given
the uses that will likely occur in the traffic that Old Farmington will
eventually carry simply because of its connectivity. I believe there are
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some questions about right-of-way as it enters the intersection or closes in
on the intersection because that is not their property and I think we could
work with the applicants to do potentially an 18' from centerline of the
actual road as opposed to the right-of-way there to ensure that everything
— curb, gutter, drainage, ditch drainage occurs within the right-of-way so
that additional property would not have to be obtained.
Hearne: I believe what we are dealing with is a 40' right-of-way where the road is
exactly within the 40' right-of-way subject to some discussion, but the
developer is not objecting to making the improvements off site throughout
the One Mile Road intersection. We are drastically improving the
drainage in that area, taking curb and gutter and everything through that
intersection. So those are off-site costs typically aren't enforced on a 17 -
lot subdivision and we have quite a bit of frontage in addition to that along
Farmington Road. We would like you to take that into consideration.
Anthes: Is there any further discussion on Condition #1?
Ostner: I suppose I do have a little bit of interest in discussing that. As I
understand it, a 36' street, and this is a question for Staff, that 36' section
is basically looking to the future to be a three -lane street.
Pate: That is correct — a collector street cross section.
Osmer: To allow a turn lane and two through traffic lanes. I don't particularly see
this street turning into that, but that is just my opinion. It is hilly, steep
and there is commercial on the west, southern end, but it basically
connects 62 to that frontage road — Shiloh. It is only good if you are
headed eastward, because Shiloh is one way to the south. I would be
interested in knowing if anyone else is interested in talking about a 28'
section. I understand it is collector status but that is my opinion.
Anthes: Normally, I in favor of narrowing streets as much as possible. My
question here is if this provides in the future a secondary route that
parallels Sixth Street that provides some sort of a network, even though it
connects to a one-way on Shiloh. I'm not sure.
Clark:
Pate:
I have a question for Jeremy. Are you seeing eventual connections on Old
Farmington from the north as it develops? Is that all slated to come in
sometime soon?
Yes, the Mountain Ranch Subdivision will have a connection to Old
Farmington Road. We have a hotel in process that connects to Old
Farmington Road. As you know at One Mile and Sixth Street there is a
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Clark:
Pate:
Clark:
signal already in place with two banks on that corner that are under
development currently. There is development occurring in this area.
That was the reason I was seeing rationale for the 18'. I think it will
become an alternative route opposed to Sixth Street for the folks in the
north to stay off Shiloh. I think that is looking ahead and I think it is wise.
I have another question about drainage. I had a contact from one of the
neighbors to the south of this development closer to One Mile Road
worried about the impact on drainage he is going to have. I don't see
anything from Engineering on this - are we comfortable that we are not
going to make a bad situation worse?
Yes, that is almost exactly what our ordinance states that you cannot
increase the pre -development flows after development has occurred.
It sounds so much more official when you say it than when I say it. I
understand that you have worked pretty hard trying to clean some of that
up.
Hearne: That's right. I believe the City has gone out and made some
improvements by cleaning out the ditches in that vicinity but we are going
back to the west and installing storm sewer, replacing culverts in that area.
It is definitely going to be a better situation once these improvements are
made.
Anthes: I have a question for Staff. My original concern on this property was the
fact it seemed like we were putting the highest density development on the
greatest amount of slope and in the tree preservation area, at least where it
is shaded on our map. Can you talk about that a bit? I mean the
development on the cul-de-sac.
Pate:
When we are looking actually in pencil stage, before we actually got to
design, we discussed it a couple of different ways, whether connectivity
should be provided up the hill through that area. That is the densest tree
preservation area. We felt it was important to look at this property as a
Planned Zoning District as opposed to a Rezoning RSF-4 which would
likely be compatible and be supported because you have RSF-4 on three or
four sides of this property. However, in speaking with the applicant, Staff
felt it would be an appropriate use of the property. You would get the
same density, try to cluster that some. Obviously, it could be more dense,
but there is a fine line there with the adjoining property owners and how
much attached housing would be compatible. In looking at that, some of
the attached units could face on Old Farmington but I think that where the
majority of the neighbors are seeing detached unit facing Old Farmington.
I think it was more in their comfort level as far as a compatible type of
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development even though they are smaller lots than what we see
surrounding.
Anthes: Is there further discussion?
Lack: Question for Staff. Jeremy, is it a policy or a proportionality issue to deal
with the 14' to 18' streets. What we generally see is the 14' cross section
and then if another lane, say Rupple Road, as an example, is required,
generally the City would make that other lane. I see here that if we build
this, probably Old Farmington Road is not too far from that expansion if
the three lanes are warranted, so we would be tearing out a lot of work that
had already have been installed. Certainly, to provide that at this time, it
would seem reasonable. Is it a proportionality issue or is it a policy issue
on how that decision is made?
Pate:
Lack:
I think it is a bit of both. As far as internal, not necessarily a City Council
policy, we as Staff are charged to make a recommendation based upon the
Master Street Plan Standards and the proportionality tests, the rational
nexus calculation on which we base all site improvements adjacent to a
property. We have been recommending 18' from centerline on projects
that we feel warrant that utilization there. There are potential cost shares,
I suppose, if the applicant would like to approach the City Council to look
at that. I'm not sure how high on the priority list that would be at this
time, simply because the uses have not quite dictated that amount of
improvement in this area. It is a little bit of both as far as we are making a
recommendation to the Planning Commission and the Planning
Commission utilizes that recommendation to make your findings if you
agree with Staff's findings, you would find in favor of that
recommendation, if not, you would make a motion to amend that.
As I said, it does seem reasonable that the improvements be made at this
time as opposed to being torn out in just a few years and made at that time.
Knowing that the applicant would understand that ability to ask City
Council for the cost share issue would allow City Council make that more
of a policy issue and set that policy in a way they would determine. And
with that, I would like to move that we forward R-PZD 06-1922 with the
stated conditions of approval, finding in favor of Condition #1.
Clark: Second.
Anthes: I have one brief question. I wanted to thank you for working on the utility
easements and arranging for the trees to be in the front of the houses on
Old Farmington. Will the utilities allow those to be large species trees as
recommended by the Urban Forester or do we have power line conflicts?
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Hearne: We will work with Sarah Patterson on whatever type of species of tree
would be appropriate there. She has mentioned in the past as well that she
has been able to work with utility companies in trying to introduce trees to
utility easement, which people don't like to hear, but we will encourage
that and work with her anyway we can to do that.
Anthes: Any further discussion?
Roll Call: The motion to forward R-PZD 06-1922 carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
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Clark:
Myres:
Anthes:
Williams:
Anthes:
Ostner:
Anthes:
Henley:
Anthes:
Madam Chair, since we are in old business, I have been asked by H2
Engineering to revisit LSD 06-1974 based on new traffic studies. They
would like to be heard in terms of Condition of Approval specific to street
improvements. So I would like to move at this time that we reconsider
LSD 06-1974, The Arbors at Springwoods.
Second.
Mr. Williams, do we discuss a motion to reconsider or do we vote
immediately.
You can discuss it if you wish to.
Is there further discussion.
If I am not mistaken, our two new commissioners were not privy to the
first discussion. I believe that was two weeks ago tonight. I would be
curious to know if the rest of the Commission thought it appropriate for us
to jump in without a packet or not. I'm simply raising the question.
I would tend to agree with Commissioner Ostner. I am concerned that we
have two new commissioners that haven't seen it. I'm also concerned that
we haven't been able to review Staff's recommendations and would like to
actually see this at an agenda session so that we could fully be prepared to
vote.
Tom Henley, with H2 Engineering. If I could give some information.
This is unusual to do this. I did not even know I could do this, to be
honest with you. I thought what we had to do was appeal a decision that
you had made to City Council and that was the attempt that we made.
And in the discussions with a couple of City Council members, and I
believe Planning, it came to my attention that we could appeal it back to
you but it had to be at this meeting. That was the only condition that we
were allowed to do that under. And that being the case and only having
two weeks to do that, it was unfortunate that we weren't able to get you a
packet and that we also happened to coincide with two new
commissioners being present. I do have — I can give you a bit of
background information as to why we are requesting this.
Why don't we hold off on that until we know if we need to have a report
or not. And just discuss the motion to reconsider. I have a question for
the City Attorney. It seems to me that we could move to reconsider and
then table and then they would be within their amount of time for the
reconsideration and then we could also hear it at agenda.
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Williams: You must act on the motion to reconsider tonight, but then assuming that
motion passes, then the item would come back before you and then at that
point you could table until the next meeting. But the motion to reconsider
must pass tonight or they can't hear it again.
Anthes: It there further discussion on the motion to reconsider?
Graves: I am in support of the motion to reconsider if we are going to table it for
the same reasons that have already been stated. I will feel more
comfortable with it if the commissioners who weren't present last time
have an opportunity, and if we had an opportunity to publish it. I don't
know if there is anyone that would have public comment on this, but it is
possible and it would give others an opportunity since it wasn't on our
agenda.
Henley: Are you all aware of exactly what it is that we are requesting?
Anthes: We have been handed a sheet. We speed read it.
Clark: If we do vote to reconsider, I will be making the motion to table it for the
next meeting, so that everyone can read the packet and you have the
opportunity to give your full spiel to all the new folks and to those of us
who weren't quite awake at the last Planning Commission as it was the
last item. I think that is a wise course of action.
Roll Call: The motion to reconsider LSD 06-1974 carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
Clark: I move that we table this item to the next Planning Commission meeting.
Graves: Second.
Roll Call: The motion to table LSD 06-1974 carries by vote of 8-0-0.
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New Business:
CPL 06-2033: Concept Plat (HAMM SUBDIVISION, 220/221): Submitted by Roger
Trotter for property located at THE END OF MAYWOOD ROAD, AT THE NORTH
END OF DOYNE HAMM DRIVE. The property is in the Planning Area and contains
approximately 26.90 acres. Preliminary Plat 05-1810 was approved on this property by
the Fayetteville Planning Commission on November 28, 2005. The request is to review a
conceptual plat that has been modified from the approved preliminary plat.
Garner: This property is located at the eastern of Maywood Road and the north end
of private road Doyne Hamm Drive. It is in the planning area and
contains just under 27 acres. As this project is a concept plat, the purpose
of that is to allow all interested parties opportunity to provide the
developer with input and requirements before the developer invests a lot
of time and money in the project. This is for informational purposes to
provide information to the developer. The background — the preliminary
plat for this subdivision was approved November 28, 2005 for a 53 -lot
subdivision and subsequent to that approval, the applicant has had
difficulty in acquiring the necessary right-of-way to make a street
connection to the south as was approved with this subdivision. They have
conceptually modified this plat and they have presented this plat before
you and would like your opinion before they go ahead and redesign the
whole subdivision and resubmit a preliminary plat. To refresh your
memories, this is in the County, east of the City of Fayetteville, just south
of Overton Park Subdivision. Doyne Hamm Road is a private road that
would provide connection to the south, or what was originally proposed
and Maywood Road is an existing road to the north. In addition, this
property has right-of-way that touches the northwest property line which
would be potential for a new street in that area. The developer proposed
to modify the approved subdivision and revise the northwestern street
connection to allow for a 20' paved road. When the preliminary plat was
approved with right-of-way dedication and an assessment for a future full -
street connection. In addition, the southern connection off of Doyne
Hamm Road to Shelton Road, the applicant has submitted a letter and we
have submitted up there. It is not feasible for them at this time to have
that right-of-way connection so they are proposing to eliminate that street
connection at this time and have a stub out there available per such time
that right-of-way may be available for future street connection. We have
listed the street improvements that were required with the original
preliminary plat in your Staff report. Those are the main issues and would
be happy to answer any questions you might have.
Anthes: Before we open the public comment section, I want to remind everyone
that this is a concept plat. The Planning Commission will not be making
any formal recommendations on this item tonight, but instead the
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applicant is asking for our opinions and is looking for us to notify them if
we see anything that would cause us to deny this plat in the future. So
with that, I will open the floor to public comment. Would any member of
the public like to speak to CPL 06-2033. Seeing none, we will close the
floor to public comment. The applicant — do you have a report?
McLelland: My name is Jay McLelland and I am one of the developers on the project.
I don't want to repeat what was just said, but basically he has covered the
high points. We have added two new stub outs to the east and west as
asked for in the first approval in November. We have also modified the
northwest entrance and corner to be the second entrance out of the
neighborhood. We believe these two entrances that we have, the one to
the northwest and the northeast would work for this project. We would
like to ask for your opinions and review of the concept plat.
Anthes: Before you sit down, was this the drawing submitted us, was this the
change in the northeast corner?
McLelland: The northwest corner.
Anthes: Sorry, northwest corner. Is there any discussion.
Harris (?): (bad tape) I'm sorry, would you say that again — on the west side there is
stub out. Or was that on the northwest side?
McLelland: There is also a stub out on the west side. It would empty out to the
Hayward's property.
Anthes: Mr. Pate, for our new commissioners, you might describe the stub out
condition that we have.
Pate: With any project within our municipal planning area or City limits, we do
require a policy of connectivity as established by the City Council, so
when we are looking at a development or subdivision such as this, we ask
standard block and lot length but we also look for properties that are
adjacent that potentially could connect and create somewhat of a grid or
street connections between those properties when they develop. So for
instance this subdivision if it had no connections or stub outs to properties
that would potentially would develop in the future, if it had none of those,
it would empty out into one location, thereby creating potential traffic
dangers in the future at that one intersection. So this helps disperse traffic
in the future when at such time this property develops. It essentially is
like you have seen in your subdivision a stub out of a street that just stops
at the property line. Hopefully there is a sign up saying that the street will
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continue in the future and the property owner to the west in this case and
to the east, would tie into that street sometime in the future.
Anthes: Is there further discussion?
Ostner: I am looking at some of these comments that adjoining property owners
have mailed into us. I assume you have seen them, too. I just want to go
over a few. This person says the condition of Doyne Hamm will not
handle additional traffic. I want to make sure that you are aware of....
McLelland: If we are not able to use the south entrance, we won't be able use that.
That is part of the southern access.
Anthes: The southern connection is the one that will no longer....
Clark: Sheldon Road is not available
Ostner: But they will build a stub out the way I understand it.
McLelland: There will be a stub out there for future development.
Pate: With the preliminary plat that was approved for this subdivision, if you
look in the northeast corner, that would connect to a street, so that would
be a connection to get west out to Gulley Road. Hamm Road, the
developer was required to connect all the way south down Hamm Road to
Sheldon Road, which is a County street currently which gets you out to the
State highway. The owner of Lot 28 which originally owned all of this
property, owns that private drive currently in place — Doyne Hamm Road.
At this point, the applicant has not been able to have the owner, the
subdivider of this property dedicate it as a public right-of-way. So the
issue is that even though they are subdividing the property, they are not
willing at this time to dedicate that as a City right-of-way. There is also an
issue where you connect to Sheldon Road, you can see there is a small,
rectangular piece there, that actually does not connect to the right-of-way
and that is owned by T. E. Sheldon, I believe, and they have access
easements to that property. That is really the difficulty in securing that.
Staff will likely recommend some sort of stub out or right-of-way access if
this comes back as a preliminary plat. In the meantime, the applicants'
have proposed sort of a half connection, a 20' wide connection in the
northwest of the property. Instead of a full public street, right now that
street and over to Park stubs out to the south property line, and as you can
see it is half and half on each property line, relatively. The 20' road would
fit within that right-of-way and connect, so it wouldn't be a full street
cross section. It would allow for emergency access and would allow for
two-way traffic, but it would be a modified -type of street section there. If
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Clark:
Pate:
Clark:
McLelland:
Harr
s (?):
Pate:
Harris:
Pate:
Ostner:
Pate:
the Planning Commission did approve that with a future preliminary plat,
the traffic generated by this subdivision would head north into Overton
Park and then out to Gulley Road. Those are the comments I believe the
applicants' are looking for, as Staff did have concerns about all the traffic
heading north. As you are well aware with many projects that sometimes
is the only option and you stub out to adjacent properties and when they
develop in the future, those connections are made. I think they are really
looking for comments if they should proceed without a connection to the
south.
Let me make sure I understand. We only now have one secure in and out
of here and that is in the northwest corner to the other subdivision?
One to the northeast and one to the northwest. There are two.
There are two northern thoroughfares are all we have.
Yes.
Mr. Pate, since I am a new commissioner, may I ask you this question?
The Hamm Subdivision is asking for 53 lots and I believe when built out
the Overton Park will have about 52 homes.
I believe that is correct.
Is Maywood an appropriate street for handling that much traffic?
It is. It is a collector street and I believe on our Master Street Plan. It is
built as a residential street — it is only built to 28' wide, but it is a brand
new street. It was just constructed last year. So as far as carrying capacity
for these two subdivisions, I think it would be fine. Without future
connections it potentially could get overloaded but again, that is why we
look for street stub outs. If you look at your overall vicinity map, we are
not too far from getting Sassafras Hill Road in the future. The smaller
page that you have stapled to the front. So it is not too far to get to that
Sassafras Road in the future as well. I think there is potential for other
connections. But at this time, you are correct, it would only be on
Maywood Road.
Question for Staff. This property is in the County. How far away is the
City limit? It is not shown. It is a good distance.
It is, it is over a mile from the City limits.
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Osmer:
Anthes:
Myres:
Pate:
Anthes:
Clark:
McLelland:
Clark:
McLelland:
Clark:
McLelland:
Clark:
McLelland:
Clark:
If I am being asked for my opinion, I think this layout is fine. We only
have authority over a few items in the County — connectivity is one of
those. I believe the applicant and the project show efforts to connect and I
would be in favor of a preliminary plat that would look like this.
Can we have further comments, particularly about the lot block
configuration. They have changed it from the original proposal.
I don't really have a comment, I think it is 51 lots. That center lot 28 that
has some access to it, I remember seeing this, but I can't remember what
that lot is.
Just a single-family home, it is just a larger one — the original home.
I do appreciate the traffic movement and the lot block configuration of the
new proposal, the removal of the cul-de-sac, the hammerheads a little
difficult, but I understand that you have an existing home there that you
are working with and that tends to solve it. I'm sure Engineering will
have very specific recommendations to you on how that works and
functions.
Are all of these buildable lots?
Yes.
Because you have some serious topography going on here.
Lot 13 would be a community septic system.
Since this is just for our opinion, I can ask questions off the board. What
type of tree coverage now is in this area?
There are not many trees; there are some on a one -acre lot in the center,
Mr. Hamm owns, but essentially it is pasture for the most part. There are
some tree lines on each side.
Have you gotten approval from the Health Department for the septic fields
yet?
We initiated the process. During the preliminary plat that we had
approved, we did have the local level's approval for a drip field.
I don't remember the original plat, but this looks like a logical
configuration. I hope you can get the stub outs and the right-of-way
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eventually. If not, these folks are going to be very limited in which way
they can get back into town. I know you are working on it.
Anthes: The applicant is asking for our comment. Is there anything else we would
like to add?
Lack: I would like to concur that I believe it is a good lot block configuration. It
is a subdivision that I would wish we could have the connection to the
south because I think that would definitely free up the traffic patterns in
my mind, but given that that is not acceptable or achievable at this time, I
would not hold them up on that issue in that we can get the two ways in
and out of the subdivision and that Maywood is an acceptable street to
carry that load.
Anthes: Further comments?
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ADM 06-2038: Administrative Item (BLUEBERRY MEADOWS): The request is
for a modification of the conditions of approval regarding street improvements for the
approved Preliminary Plat containing 23.62 acres with 73 residential lots.
Morgan: This subdivision was approved as a preliminary plat. It was approved
with 73 single-family lots located north of Huntsville Road with two
points of access proposed on Huntsville Road and a street stub out to the
west if future development occurs. One of the requirements for street
improvements as part of this preliminary plat was the construction of a left
turn lane onto Huntsville Road. The applicant was in the process of
submitting construction plans to the Highway Department for approval of
that and received word that specific warrants would be needed in order to
approve that turn lane. The applicant paid for a traffic study on Huntsville
and the results of that study were that a turn lane was not necessary at this
time therefore, the Highway Department would not allow the turn lane due
to the fact that it would not meet their warrants. It would not be necessary
at this time. The applicant requests a modification of the requirements for
street improvements. They are proposing to pay the money in lieu for this
improvement so the City could have that money in case if and when the
Highway Department will allow us to build that turn lane. The applicant
has submitted a figure for this improvement in the amount of $18,651 and
that has been approved by our Engineering Division. Staff recommends
that this modification based on the information we have received from the
Highway Department. We actually have a specific modification of the
condition of approval and that is found on page 2 of your Staff report.
Anthes: Ms. Morgan, before you sit down, can you tell us how long this
assessment would be held and how soon the improvements would have to
be made before the money was returned to the applicant?
Morgan: 1 believe that we hold money for a period of five years.
Pate:
I would also add to that, at the end of the five-year period, it is up to the
Planning Commission, and ultimately the City Council, if that money
should be returned to the applicant or if it should be held in escrow
further. The applicant simply has the right to petition for that money to be
returned. That is part of our ordinance.
Anthes: Would any one from the public like to address ADM 06-2038 for
Blueberry Meadows?
Jorgensen: My name is Dave Jorgensen — I am here to answer questions.
Anthes: We are taking public comment first. We changed things around on you a
little bit.
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Anthes: Would any one from the public like to speak? Seeing none, we will hear
from the applicant now.
Jorgensen: Dave Jorgensen. I am here to answer questions on this. Jeremy, I missed
your comment about the five year period, what happens to the funds after
that?
Pate:
Essentially the applicant has the ability to petition back to the Planning
Commission or the City Council for that money to be returned if that
improvement has not occurred.
Jorgensen: It seems like that improvement wouldn't be made in a five-year period. It
might, but is this something that would go into a fund for future
improvements along Highway 16, being that 16 is backed up big time at
the intersection?
Pate:
Yes, we have a number of developments that have been approved or are in
the process of being approved and reviewed. It is a similar situation. It
does go into an escrow account specifically set aside for improvements on
that highway.
Jorgensen: Well, good deal. We just agree with all of this and hope that it can be
used in that situation.
Williams: Just for the record, your client would consent to other improvements along
Highway 16 as long as this money be used rather than the specific project
that it was initially allocated to?
Jorgensen: Those were our thoughts, yes. We realize the situation out there....at our
particular location, the traffic study did determine that a left hand turn lane
was not justified, however, we realize that we are dumping that many
more cars onto Highway 16, especially as you travel in a westward
direction in the morning. That's the thought here. I suppose that there is a
future plan for improvements on 16 and hopefully that will be happening
in the near future, hopefully in the five-year period.
Williams: Hopefully, obviously it is depended on the Highway Department for any
improvement. But I want to make sure that we understood that this
$18,651 could be used on Highway 16 East in the general area, but
necessarily right at the turn lane.
Anthes: Thank you Mr. Jorgensen.
Clark: I am very saddened that the Arkansas Highway Department on their
infinite wisdom not to mandate this left turn lane. I live downstream, a
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little closer into Fayetteville and I am going to get all of these people
dumped on my intersection which will just be lovely. I am also confident
that folks are concerned about traffic on Huntsville and Highway 16
should call the Arkansas Highway Traffic Department and let them know
their sentiments and not me, because I wanted the turn lane. Having said
that, I move that we forward ADM 06-2038 with the recommendation of
Staff, stating the payment in lieu.
Myres: Second.
Ostner: I have a question. The first question is for Staff or possibly City Attorney.
Is there the possibility to bond this amount of cash for the applicant?
Pate:
Not for this particular application. A bond would be for an incomplete
improvement that would be installed by the applicant and once inspected
and accepted by the City, the bond would be returned. This is actually an
assessment that goes into the escrow account and is not returned until that
time period. It is in essence the same as constructing the street only they
can't do it at this time.
Ostner: My second question is since it is going into an escrow account, at the end
of the five years, let's hope not, but if we do have to return it, does the
applicant get any interest?
Williams: Yes.
Anthes: We have a motion by Commissioner Clark and a second by Commissioner
Myres. Is there any further discussion?
Pate: Just to clarify that motion is to approve as opposed to forwarding to
Council.
Roll Call: The motion to approve ADM 06-2038 carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
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PPL 06-1886: Preliminary Plat (GENEVA GARDENS, 60): Submitted by CRITICAL
PATH CONST MANAGEMENT INC for property located at CROSSOVER AND
ALBRIGHT ROAD. The property is zoned RSF-4, SINGLE FAMILY - 4
UNITS/ACRE and contains approximately 2.97 acres. The request is for a residential
subdivision with 9 single family dwellings.
Fulcher: The subject property contains approximately 2.97 acres located west of
Crossover Road and south of Albright Road on the border of Fayetteville
and Springdale City limits. The applicant proposes to create a 12 -lot
single-family subdivision. Of those 12 lots, two lots will be for tree
preservation and one for detention, resulting in a density of approximately
three units per acre. A 40' public street is proposed to serve lots 4-9.
There was a three -lot proposal submitted under the name of Albright's
Oak Hill for the subject property and was approved by the Planning
Commission on September 12, 2005. Since that time, the applicants have
submitted this revised subdivision. Right-of-way will be dedicated 25'
from centerline for Albright Road and 40' right-of-way dedication for the
interior street. There has been public comment received with the three -lot
proposal last year. There were some comments at Subdivision Committee
and some comments included in the report, also a small packet that I
handed the Commissioners prior to the meeting. Most of the comments
have been about tree removal on Albright Road within the Master Street
Plan right-of-way, the density and the traffic as well as the curb cuts on
Crossover Road. Staff is recommending approval of the preliminary plat
with 15 conditions of approval. Condition #1 — Planning Commission
determination of appropriate street connectivity. The applicants are
proposing a stub out to the south. If that property is to ever develop, we
felt with the size of the subdivision and the distance that a stub out if it
headed to the east would just parallel Albright Road and just create further
tree canopy removal. On Condition #2, Planning Commission
determination of street improvements. These are the same conditions that
were requested on the original submittal — widening Albright Road 14'
from centerline including storm drains, curb and gutter, pavement and
sidewalk along the property frontage and west to Crossover Road. The
location of the sidewalk shall be determined at the time of construction by
the Sidewalk Coordinator and Urban Forester to ensure maximum canopy
preservation. Condition #3 — access to the individual lots in response to
limiting the number of curb cuts as much as possible into Crossover Road.
There will be a single curb cut for Lot 1, a shared curb cut for Lots 2/3 and
shared curb cuts for interior lots onto the proposed street.
Anthes: Before you sit down, Jesse, in anticipation of public comment, will you
also address the brick fence that has been offered and the detention
situation?
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Fulcher: During Subdivision Committee, the property owner to the south had stated
that the developers to the west of their property along Crossover and
Albright were in the process of constructing a brick fence. With that the
applicants of this project stated that they would be amenable to that. They
may speak to that. Within our report, we have stated that this is an
agreement between private property owners; it is not enforceable by the
City as it is not a requirement between residential developments. Any
fence or wall that is to be constructed will be coordinated with the utility
providers.
Anthes: Would you describe the detention system on this property and capacity to
generate standing water or mosquito nuisance.
Fulcher: I don't know if I can answer those well. If Jeremy has spoken to our
engineer regarding that detention pond.
Pate:
The requirement for a detention pond as with all detention ponds, they are
required to drain in a certain amount of time. Obviously the storm event
dictates how fast that does drain. This proposal will have a detention in
the northwest corner as you see in pond one there, which drains into an
existing drainage facility. I believe the applicant can better describe
exactly that occurs, however, it does comport with our ordinances and
regulations regarding detention. Those improvements will occur on this
property.
Anthes: Thank you very much. We will open the floor to public comment. Would
anybody like to address PPL 06-1886 for Geneva Gardens?
Roman: My name is Jeanette Roman, my address is 4984 Crossover. I gave you
packets in your packets and photographs for those of you not familiar with
this property, so I am going to read some notes so that I can be succinct
and not waste your time. Doc Roman and I own the home and three and a
half acres south of this subject property, to the east there is a large home
being built on ten acres and the owner has told us that this home will be
featured in the Architectural Digest, which I believe because the
landscaping has ongoing for over a year and is quite lovely. To our west
is Lake Fayetteville which is across Crossover and 265; south and west is
Stonewood, Mark Foster's gated project which I am sure you are familiar
with. This subject property which was alluded to earlier has changed
several times recently. It was first sold to an individual who intended to
build a single home, this was compatible with the neighborhood. As most
of the homes on Albright are on acreage or large lots. Next the property
was divided into three one -acre lots, which was still compatible with the
neighborhood and would retain most of the trees. Now it has involved
into a subdivision. If built as presented, with sidewalks and nine lots,
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most of the trees will have to be removed. The plans show two small
patches of trees remaining east and west, the east being a drainage area
that flows into Lake Fayetteville. The project is in our front yard, our
home faces north and south. We have asked Critical Path to build an
eight -foot privacy fence between the properties. Their plan does not leave
a natural barrier of trees between the two properties and also the plan does
not show retaining any trees on the nine lots. We do not think this is an
unreasonable request due to the loss of so many trees. Mark Foster
retained a number of trees on his project and his plan is to extend his brick
fence from Stonewood up past that property. Since there hasn't any
activity on Mr. Foster's project for several months, Doc Roman and I met
with him last week and he assured us that he will continue with this
project which I would imagine, because he has already done a lot of work,
at some time in the future and still intends to build the privacy fence. We
are highly distressed at the loss of so many lovely and mature trees, but
that's the cost of progress which we understand. On a personal note,
Fayetteville has always been known for their respect for their tree canopy
and I will have to say that this project has been a surprise. Thank you.
Anthes: Would any other member of the public like to address this item? Seeing
none, I will close the public comment section. I would like Staff to
address the issue of the tree canopy and the tree preservation requirements.
Pate:
Just want to clarify, there might be some misunderstanding about what
tree preservation easements are with the residential subdivisions and our
requirements for that. The applicants have shown two tree preservation
lots. What those indicate to us — and those are not required in standard
subdivisions by any means — within a subdivision typically you have just
the trees that are preserved on the lots and don't have specific lots called
out for those easements. It is allowed if the applicant would like to do that
and that is what occurred on this property in two locations. However, all
of the trees that are shown here on page 4 on the plat, all of those indicated
to be surrounded entirely by tree protection fencing, those all will be
preserved during the construction of this infrastructure. Obviously, each
individual home owner will have to decide which of those remain and
which of those are removed at the time of the individual home
construction. As has been noted in the past, there are nine individual lots
with likely nine individual decisions to be made on how their home relates
to the street, what elevation they are and which trees will function as part
of the overall plan for the development of that lot. However, it is the
developer's responsibility to preserve at least 25% canopy. This particular
developer is preserving almost 45% of the canopy on the property — 45%
overall of the area of the property. We want to make that clear that not all
the trees will be removed during development. There will likely be more
removed after the developer has sold off the lots, because to fit a home on
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each one of those lots, some will have to be removed, but hopefully each
owner will pick those can be saved and do everything to save those.
Anthes: Mr. Pate, will you help me remember — I believe there was a discussion on
an earlier development about the cross section of Albright Road and the
sidewalk placement, having to do with the tree canopy removal?
Pate:
As with the discussion when this was a three -lot subdivision, and we
basically made the same recommendation as far as sidewalk placement.
Our typical recommendation for a local street is 14' from centerline to
create a 28' section. This will fall within this same recommendation,
however, in this instance instead of locating sidewalks at the right-of-way
line which is also our standard cross section, we have asked the developer
to work with both our Urban Forester and our Sidewalk Coordinator at the
time of construction so that the developer would construct the sidewalks
along Albright and probably within a sidewalk easement and likely will
not occur at the right-of-way line. That is an effort to preserve those trees.
It is likely that the sidewalk will not be in a straight line down Albright
Road essentially, they will hopefully follow outside the tree canopy and
get away from trees as much as possible.
Anthes: Will the applicant come forward please.
Barbaree: I am Tausha Barbaree with Critical Path. I'm sure you realize that we
have really worked hard on Geneva Gardens Subdivision to incorporate
City of Fayetteville design standards, the tree ordinance and the comments
from the neighboring property owners. The concerns that the neighboring
property owners included rear facing lots, removal canopy within the site,
removal canopy along Albright, and traffic speeds along Albright. Our
design revisions of the property eliminated completely the rear facing lots
and as well we have incorporated, as Jeremy mentioned, the two tree
preservation lots that are above and beyond what the tree preservation
ordinance requires. We have also worked diligently with utilities to place
the layout for the utilities where a minimum amount of tree canopy was
lost. We have incorporated all feasible design alternatives to integrate the
comments of the City, Sarah Patterson, and the neighbors. In order to
further ensure that tree canopy preservation is at a maximum along
Albright, we would also like to discuss a 12' widening rather than a 14'
widening along Albright. We would like to hear a discussion on that.
Thank you.
Anthes: Thank you very much. Commissioners?
Ostner: Did I just hear the applicant ask for a 12' street section?
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Barbaree: Yes.
Ostner: Just wanted to make sure — that is rare.
Lack: If I understand right, the recommendation was 14' from centerline and to
reduce that to a 12' per the request, what would that cross section leave us
at that time, Mr. Pate?
Pate:
Lack:
Pate:
Lack:
Pate:
Lack:
Approximate 22'. I think there is 20' of existing pavement so that would
leave us with a 20' cross section, a 22' cross section. Keep in mind the
north side of this centerline essentially is Springdale. I'm not sure what
their cross section on the north side is. The subdivisions that have been
approved to the east of this have all been required to do a 14' from
centerline cross section, so it would change that by 2', getting down to the
intersection of Crossover Road. I think the effort is, again, to try to save
as many trees as possible. I'm not sure that 2' would do that, could help.
I think that is the genesis of that request is to try to save as many of those
trees as possible. However, in understanding and anticipating this request
is coming and talking with the applicant, I think our recommendation still
remains 14' from centerline for standards of street sections.
And one other question. When I look at the hammerhead which given the
conditions and the street conditions, I like that much better than seeing a
cul-de-sac at the end of that street but I don't see on my map that the right-
of-way comes around that hammerhead. I may be misunderstanding it,
but I would expect that the right-of-way would need to come out around
that hammerhead to guarantee that, the same as it would a cul-de-sac, it
would envelop a cul-de-sac.
In all actuality, we would anticipate that this would be a temporary
condition so right-of-way would not necessarily be dedicated. The reason
being once — hammerhead essentially allows for Solid Waste to turn
around and Emergency Services to turn around. Once this street connects
through to something else and there is an adequate turn around, it would
not likely have to occur at that point. It would simply function a shared
drive which most likely will occur so an access easement that could go
away at the time the street was constructed. That is what Staff saw as
happening.
An access easement — I see in the Plan that it is to be constructed at this
time, so it will be constructed with the proper sections to hold that traffic.
That is correct.
Does that easement appear on this Plan?
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Pate:
Lack:
Pate:
Lack:
I'm not sure that it does on the first page. If not, it would be required at
the time of final plat to be shown as an access easement and inspected and
constructed to City specifications.
We would not need to make it a requirement of this.
You will see this again as a final plat. You could make it a condition if
you would like.
I think I would concur with Staff's recommendation on the 24'. While I
applaud the efforts to save the trees along the road, I think that the location
of the trees there, the trees that would be taken out by the 2' of extension
would probably be taken out by the 4' of extension as well, because there
is a pretty continuous row of trees. That is the extent of my questions.
Applicant: The cross section we were asking for is really for two reasons — help
preserve the tree canopy along Albright and to also try to possibly slow
the traffic down on that street. Building a 28' wide street there would
seem to, if there is no parking on the street, to promote faster traffic. I
know there were some concerns with the people who lived on the north
side of Albright with the traffic coming down the street. That might help
that situation.
Clark:
How big of a distance is there from the beginning of the subdivision and
Crossover? How far off Crossover? Two reasons I found the 12' street
section appealing is the tree canopy, but to slow traffic. And maybe if you
can get them to slow down getting to Crossover or slower coming off of
Crossover, because that is one, straight -shot street. If you can get them to
slow down, although I don't think that philosophy actually works. In
theory, if it did work, it would be a good thing. But not if it is going to be
a gap.
Pate: It is approximately 100' west to get to Crossover Road.
Anthes: To follow up on that, a 12' lane is still a very wide lane. That is as wide a
lane as you would see on an interstate, it is not a reduction to the point that
traffic really slows down, unfortunately. My question of Staff would be,
and I wish Engineering was here to answer this, but because we have
required the 14' section further down and we are approaching a major
intersection and actually choking down the road by two feet, would they
consider that hazardous?
Pate: Potentially, again with traffic generation on Albright Road, it will likely
take a left -turn lane at some point because you are seeing numerous
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subdivisions. This is the northern boundary of Fayetteville, Springdale is
obviously to our north so we have two municipalities utilizing the same
stretch of street. I understand the concern as well, and we often, not the
City of Fayetteville, but other municipalities use chokers and things of that
nature to try to calm traffic I think those have to be very well thought out
though and placed appropriately and designed accordingly in the right
place, not haphazardly. I think it is something that would take quite a bit
of looking into to see if this is a proper place for that. I know in the north
side for instance, it is not improved, so it is a 10' section and to go back to
your comment about a 12' lane, the 24' -wide street does include back to
curb to back to curb, so they are 10' lanes so that is two bit curb on each
side, curb and gutter — so that is a 10' lane essentially. But a point well
taken on a 28' wide street — those are 12' lanes. I think we would still stay
with our recommendation on this particular property unless some point in
the future we could research that to find that this a ? place. I don't think
the traffic generation at this time would warrant that, but we are trying to
plan for the future.
Ostner: As much as it pains to speak against a 12' street section, I do think this is
an inappropriate spot. I see a possible turn lane, 100' to the west shortly
on the horizon. We have approved preliminary plats near this area
consistently and I believe we will see more. Unfortunately I believe that
Albright will pick up in volume, I would hope it wouldn't pick up in
speed. The bureaucratic hoops, the fact that the City limit is down the
center of the road in tricky. Springdale has different rules than we do and
I believe it would have to be coordinated, I believe, if a true choker were
to be installed. Those trees are beautiful along there. I'm not sure the 12'
street section is a good idea. Those are my only comments on the street
section. I would be in favor of the project as currently stated. I will make
a motion that we approve PPL 06-1886 with all conditions of approval,
specifically a determination on #1 of appropriate connectivity and
determination of condition #2 of street improvements.
Anthes: Is the motioner interested in adding something about the access easement
between lots 8 and 9 per Mr. Lack's comments?
Ostner: Mr. Lack, would you like to phrase an addition to the motion?
Lack: I think an addition might be that an access easement be provided for
general access between Lot 8 and 9 at the hammerhead that is shown on
the plat.
Ostner: The motioner would accept that additional condition of approval - #16.
Myres: And I would second.
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Anthes: We have a motion by Commissioner Ostner, and a second by Commission
Myers. Is there any discussion? Would you call the roll?
Roll Call: The motion to approve PPL 06-1886 carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
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LSD 06-1994: Large Scale Development (TOYOTA OF FAYETTEVILLE, 248):
Submitted by BLACK, CORLEY & OWENS for property located at 1352 W.
SHOWROOM DRIVE. The property is zoned C-2, THOROUGHFARE
COMMERCIAL and contains approximately 42.82 acres. The request is for a 9,696 s.f.
expansion of the existing structure that will lie partially in the Design Overlay District.
Anthes: Mr. Graves has recused himself from this item.
Fulcher: The subject property is zoned C-2 and is within the Fayetteville Auto
Park, previously Landers Auto Park, located north of I-540 and west of
Highway 112. The Toyota building was approved in conjunction with the
Nelms Auto Park in 1999. The existing Toyota building lies within the
Design Overlay District and is therefore subject to all requirements of the
Design Overlay District. The applicants are proposing an addition of
approximately 10,000 square feet for a total building area of 31,000 square
feet. The proposed exterior consists of a clear aluminum storefront glass,
split face CMU of natural color to match existing CMU. Constructed
materials are composite metal wall panels typically silver in color with
black and red accents. Also at the main entry there will be an entry portal
made up of white translucent glass panels and white composite metal
panels which will be internally lit. A waiver is required for the application
of metal panels that will dominate the main facade of the proposed
structure which Staff is in support of'. The entry portal as shown on the
elevations is proposed to be approximately 550 square feet of translucent
glass panels illuminated from within. Staff feels the concerns with this is
the size — with the sign on it, is out of scale and will be illuminated all
hours, therefore Staff is proposing that the illumination of the portal will
be turned off at 9:00 p.m. each night as is the current requirement for one
half of the numerous lighting fixtures within the Fayetteville Auto Park.
With that, Staff would recommend approval with sixteen conditions of
approval. Condition #1 — Planning Commission determination of
Commercial Design Standards. Staff finds that the proposed building
elevations, while composed of metal panels, do meet Commercial Design
Standards. Condition #2 which is regarding the waiver from building
materials within the Design Overlay District, Staff finds in favor of the use
of the metal panels as indicated in submitted elevations. All of the other
conditions are fairly standard with condition #3 referring to the entry
portal and location of the sign located on it. If you have any questions,
please ask.
Anthes: We will now have public comment on this item. Would any member of
the public like to speak to LSD 06-1994 for Toyota of Fayetteville?
Seeing none, I will close the public comment section. Will they applicant
like to make a presentation?
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Smith:
Anthes:
Clark:
Pate:
Clark:
Pate:
Clark:
Pate:
Clark:
Pate:
Anthes:
Pate:
I am Brian Smith with Black, Corley and Owens Architects. I would like
to say that with the showroom portion of the project being in the Overlay
District, we worked pretty closely with the Planning Staff to come up with
a design that would meet the needs of the client as well as conform to the
ordinances that we have for the Overlay District. The portal itself is
redesigned so it would incorporate into the exterior. We feel it is a nice
compliment to have a wall sign instead of a free standing object. I am
here to answer any questions you might have about the design and finished
materials.
Is there further discussion?
This is a question for Staff. My packet reads that the existing structure
will lie partially within the Overlay District. Does that mean we can
consider only Overlay Design Standards for that part?
That is correct.
And which part is that?
It should be located on your plats — the pull out here is a 660' bypass
Overlay District line which crosses — really includes the front of that
structure.
Which elevations can I not look at?
The elevations that we are considering are the ones that are being modified
for this project which include the front elevation of the structure, the south
elevation, the elevation for instance #2, the east elevation would be that
portion that is far to the west.
So basically everything that has some articulation I can consider but the
rest I can't if it doesn't have articulation?
The rest is existing structure. It was approved by the Planning
Commission.
I have a question for Staff about the lighting. I know that obviously this
development was created before the lighting ordinance was in place.
They are talking about relocating two light poles on the property. Can you
tell what our regulations are as far a relocating rather than replaced
lighting?
Those lights, because they are coming down, would have to meet our
ordinance even if the fixture was broken and they had to replace it, our
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ordinance states that if you replace a fixture, you have to replace it with
something that meets the lighting ordinance. It is possible that the lens
type that they utilized could be utilized, it might be a different actual
lamp, so we will have to see what kind of fixture, a lighting cut sheet for
that and it would have to meet the lighting ordinance.
Anthes: The second question was about the Design Standards. At Subdivision
Committee they indicated that this was unpainted block. Is that correct?
Pate: I would have to ask the architect to respond.
Smith: The existing service has painted smooth -face block that we are going to
repaint. The showroom has unpainted split face which is consistent with
the split face block in the Auto Park — it is unpainted. But that is a split
face, not a smooth face.
Anthes: Mr. Pate, what are Staff's comments regarding unpainted block that
matches existing in the Park?
Pate:
I think that with, in terms of compatibility with this overall Auto Park, the
Commission has reviewed within the last couple of years and approved
projects within the Overlay Design District — Hummer building being one,
remodels to other structures. Another large scale development was
approved approximately one and a half or two years ago utilizing very
similar materials. They did obviously establish a design theme for the
overall Park. It structure has a tower feature, entry feature — the portal
here is occupying that type of feature for this particular building. It was
originally was the Lincoln Mercury building and was designed as such and
has changed since then. This would be a major overhaul of that facade. In
keeping with the overall theme of that development with split face block is
something that has been approved here and other places within Design
District in the City.
Anthes: Is there a discussion about Commercial Design Standards?
Myres: I think the changes that are proposed are a huge improvement over what is
there currently and I think as far as the materials and the design itself, they
meet Commercial Design Standards.
Anthes: Do you have comments about condition #2 about the waiver?
Myres: I have no problem with that.
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Ostner: On the main south elevation at the west end — this is a question for the
applicant — it is basically the face of the building with two windows, two
sets and we are seeing lots of nice lines in that material on the rendering.
Smith: Inaudible. (not at microphone)
Ostner: I thought the material changed from the bottom to the top, so that is
entirely alucabond on that elevation. That was my only concern that some
of these wall areas are unarticulated. It is a nice improvement, I'm just not
sure I can find in favor of the Commercial Design Standards. This
rendering is a little hard to read because it is so, I'm not sure how to
describe it — shaded or artistic — it has been drawn very nicely but it is a
difficult representation of the materials I believe. Because that area which
we were just talking about is drawn completely differently from the other
areas that are called out as an alucabond.
Smith: It is split between alucabond and the ? system. Here we just have two
windows (inaudible — away from microphone)
Anthes: Mr. Smith, can I have you go to the microphone please?
Ostner: So there is no split face on that west end?
Smith: Just on the rear.
Ostner: So not on that south elevation?
Smith: Not on the south and west, just on the north side that would face Honda.
Clark: Why didn't you continue the red stripe on the west end.
Smith: Basically, that is in the image program from Toyota and that is why it
doesn't.
Clark: Because I share Commissioner Ostner's concern about articulation. I
don't know what the exact coverage is going to look like. I have no
problem with #2 - the metal panels are fine. Insofar as I can determine on
Commercial Design Standards the part of the building that falls into the
Overlay District seem fine to me. Your improvements will be nice. I am
a little disappointed that you did not continue those improvements into the
unarticulated areas that are out left of the building that I think will stick
out like an ever sorer thumb, by the comparison to the very appealing front
of the building. But we have no purview of that because it is not in the
Design Overlay District.
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Ostner:
Pate:
Osmer:
Pate:
Williams:
Pate:
Ostner:
Pate:
Ostner:
Clark:
Ostner:
Clark:
Anthes:
Point of order, is the Commercial Design Standard evenly applied
throughout the City, or are we only looking at the Design Overlay District
for the Commercial Design Standard?
It is both in the situation. The Commercial Design Standards and Design
Overlay District requirements for the portion that is within the Design
Overlay District simply Commercial Design Standards for any
improvement that is outside of the Design Overlay District.
What exactly are we looking at in the DOD that is above normal codes?
One of those is the waiver from utilizing the metal siding.
And the large out -of -scale signs with flashy colors.
Design Overlay District requirements are also green space — 25' from the
right-of-way, amount of curb cuts and distance — both of these are not
being affected by this proposal. Exterior appearance — all structures shall
be architecturally designed to have front facades facing street and highway
right-of-way, building material — that is what I mentioned on structures
with metal side walls — site coverage is not an issue; optional fencing,
outdoor storage materials, access, that's it.
Just to clarify we are looking at Commercial Design Standards for this
building, not just the part that is in the Design Overlay District?
Correct. The building as they are modifying it.
The changes of course, I'm not talking about the building that is not being
touched. It sounded like Commissioner Clark's comments were that we
weren't looking at the other elevations.
I am disappointed with the elevations — that they didn't have to change
them.
Are you talking about elevations they are working on? Or the elevations
that are white?
White.
The portal is an issue that came up in Subdivision Committee. There was
a recommendation from Staff at that time to reduce the amount of
translucent versus opaque surface. Can you tell me how you came around
to your latest recommendation which I believe that the entire portal
remains translucent but there is a 9:00 p.m.....
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Pate:
We got some calculations essentially that what percentage of the overall
structure this sign would be, essentially it would be considered a wall sign
approximately 12%...
Smith: Twelve percent including the front of the service reception garage.
(inaudible)
Pate:
So if you look at the overall front elevation, the top elevation there, that
lighted portion that would be illuminated with translucent glass is
approximately 12%. Our sign ordinance does allow for up to 20%.
Obviously, 550 square feet where we have about 150 square feet typically
allowed is either is 150 square feet or 20% or whichever is greater. That is
the way the ordinance reads. This is much larger than any sign probably
that we have seen in the City of Fayetteville, so we thought that to meet
Commercial Design Standards it would be appropriate to at least put some
sort of limitation. Our first initial recommendation was to light only the
portions that are behind the logos that are showing on that sign. In
looking at the definition of the sign ordinance, we do believe it would
meet the sign ordinance if is only 12%, so because of the lighting behind
that, because there are waivers associated with this request and there have
been waivers in the past for the amount of lighting, the type of lighting on
Landers Auto Park, Fayetteville Auto Park now, requirements have been
placed by this Planning Commission to turn down half of those lights at
9:00 p.m. We felt it was appropriate to do so with this proposal as well.
Williams: I have a question of the applicant. Is that agreeable with the applicant —
this 9:00 p.m. turn off time?
Maxey: I am Clay Maxey, I am the Director of Operations of the Auto Park. It is
agreeable with us by turning the light down at 9:00 p.m. Also, if the
problem is the red stripe coming to the west side of the building, that is
something that is an easy fix and we would be agreeable to that as well.
We obviously want to get the ball rolling with the start of a new project.
The facility in Bentonville which is a close facility to the one we are
building, will be up and running within the next 45 days. And we weren't
wanting to be under construction throughout the summer and offering
them our business, just because we are under construction. So as far as the
red stripe on the west side of the building, that would be no problem. We
actually came up with the idea to turn the portal off at 9:00 p.m.
Anthes: Clay, did you state your last name is Maxwell?
Maxey: Maxey.
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Lack:
Anthes:
Lack:
Myres:
Ostner:
Lack:
I think that the Commercial Design Standards, that I would see that this
project would meet the Commercial Design Standards in interpretation.
Certainly the metal panels would be something that would be called into
question, but this is not the metal panels for which I feel the ordinance was
written. On a sideline note to this project in general, I would encourage us
as a City to look at what type of metal panels we are forbidding in the
ordinance so we don't have to pass a waiver on this material each time that
it comes through. With regards to the sign, I was prepared from
Subdivision Committee to see that as a continuation of the wall and to
actually see that as a part of the building wall and as a windowed wall, the
fact that it is translucent instead of transparent would be irrelevant to me
and that I would see the sign place on that wall. But I certainly appreciate
the compromise that the owners have made and would have no problem
with approving it on that venue. I would probably not like to see the red
stripe carried to the left, as I think it helps the articulation of the building
to not be fully continuous with all elements but to stagger those in some
way. With that said I would want to state for support for those items in
the conditions of approval.
Do we have further discussions or motions?
I will move to approve this LSD 06-1994 with the stated conditions of
approval, finding in the affirmative on items # 1 and #2.
Second.
I think this is a good project and the main elevation is quite nice, however,
in having to make a finding on the Commercial Design Standards, I am
regretfully going to have to vote against this project as the motion has
been formed. I believe the north elevation with the bays could take a lot
of articulation as could the east elevation. Even the west end of the south
elevation I believe is less than adequate. I regret to say that.
If I could also mention that within the Commercial Design Standards as
opposed to the Overlay District Standards, we only look at the buildings'
faces fronting the street and I'm not sure the north face of the building
would be applicable for Commercial Design Standards. It could be
debated as to whether the east and west elevations would be.
Ostner: I appreciate that Mr. Lack and you are correct. The other elevations that I
spoke of, the north is fine since it does not face a right-of-way.
Anthes: Is there any further discussion? We have a motion by Commissioner Lack
and a second by Commissioner Myres. Will you call the roll?
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Roll Call: The motion to approve LSD 06-1994 carries by a vote of 4-3-0.
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LSD 06-1960: Large Scale Development (WRMC SENIOR CENTER, 211/212):
Submitted by USI -ARKANSAS, INC. for property located at 3215 NORTH HILLS
BLVD. The property is zoned R -O, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE and contains
approximately 52.03 acres. The request is to construct a Senior Center containing 40,698
s.f., in three phases, on the subject property.
Morgan: Several months ago the Planning Commission approved a conditional use
permit for several additions to the WRMC campus. One of these additions
included the Senior Center which consists of three buildings which the
applicant is proposing build in three separated phases, based on funding
and how construction goes with that. In addition to these three buildings,
the applicant is proposing 78 new surface parking spaces to the east and
south of the structure. Adjacent Master Street Plan streets are located on
your plats. This is a highly trafficked area. With the addition of this
complex as well as the fifth floor addition and the next Large Scale
Development which will be heard tonight, the applicant will be adding
approximately 183,000 square feet to the existing buildings, as well as 618
parking spaces. With the Conditional Use and the addition of the fifth
floor, we alerted the applicant that we would be looking for a traffic study
and for street improvements for all of these additions. The applicant has
submitted that traffic study and based on that, Staff is recommending that
the applicant pay an assessment for a traffic signal at Futrall and North
Hills Blvd. This assessment would just be for the traffic signal, not for
any realignment or additions to the streets or street sections at this time.
That amount is $110,000 and Staff is recommending that that be paid one
half with this Large Scale Development and one half with the next Large
Scale Development on the agenda tonight. As far as other issues — we
have discussed Commercial Design Standards at length with regard to this
project and I have about ten elevation boards and I can pass those around,
or if you want to see specific ones, I can show those. Staff finds in favor
of the proposed materials and finding that they will match the existing
hospital of which we have a picture. However, we find that the north
elevation of the fitness center does not meet Commercial Design
Standards and recommend either utilization of windows and/or alucabond
aluminum paneling system which is show on every other elevation of each
structure proposed.
Anthes: Suzanne, can I interrupt you for just a minute? Is that the elevation
labeled "Gymnasium"?
Morgan: Yes, it is. There is also a waiver request for the landscaping. In the
original approvals, the applicant planted trees within the right-of-way,
approximately eight oak trees are planted within the right-of-way. Our
requirements require that one tree be planted every thirty feet within a 15'
landscape area outside the right-of-way. On the original approved
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building plans, it showed both trees located within and outside of the
right-of-way. Staff would recommend somewhat of a compromise of six
large tree species being planted within the 15' landscape area where ten
are typically required and those trees be staggered in between the existing
trees. All the additional Conditions of Approval are fairly self
explanatory. If you have any questions, please let me know.
Anthes: We will now entertain public comment on this item. Would any member
of the public like to speak to LSD 06-1960 for WRMC Senior Center.
Seeing none, I will close the floor to public comment. Would the
applicant like to make a presentation?
Holloway: My name is Jerry Holloway and I work with USI -Arkansas, Inc. and
representing WRMC. This is a Senior Center which you have all of the
information there, that is to be built in three different phases. It is
possible actually, if the money comes in, that it will all be built at the same
time. The hospital is asking that this phasing be placed in the planning
and Large Scale Development area so that they will have that option to
build the buildings in their own time. We have one or two comments that
we would like to address and have the Cromwell architect here, Thad
Kelly who will address the Conditional Use Permit #1 and the Design
Standards for you.
Kelly:
I am Thad Kelly, an architect with Cromwell. Of the thirteen elevations,
you have an objection to the one which is labeled "Gymnasium". That
elevation, although it is going to be constructed now, there will be a pool
addition provided there is a donor and a naming opportunity that will be
added onto that so that this fitness center will include, right now it doesn't
include, but it will include a therapy pool and an exercise pool that will
adjoin and continue this elevation on. On the other twelve elevations that
you don't have any objections to, we have done everything, we have
worked with Staff to make all of the requirements that the Commission
has asked us to. We do ask your dispensation on this one. This building is
really more like an arrow head — it has an obtuse angle and an acute angle
that goes around a little stream that feeds Mud Creek down at the
Interstate and we are, as part of the plan shows, doing a flood survey.
However, if we flood I think it will get up into Sears. Mud Creek will be
like the Mississippi River at that point, but the report has to be made. We
do ask your dispensation on this one elevation. It is articulated for the side
of the Gymnasium, it will be incorporated inside another building when
that building is added on to and is part of a therapy/exercise pool. If there
are any other questions about the articulation or orientation, I'd love to
walk you through it.
Anthes: I suspect we will be back with your shortly. Commissioners.
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Myres: I think all the elevations are very handsome. A lot of the ones that are less
detailed don't show, and I know that the architects have taken great care.
Applicant: A point of order. If we have any further comments, will you entertain
those.
Anthes: Who is we?
Applicant: WRMC.
Anthes: The applicant has a chance to respond if we ask you questions. Did you
have additional presentation after Mr. Kelly? I didn't realize that. Please
come forward.
Bever:
My name is Mark Bever, I am the Administrator of Washington Regional.
My comments are related to the current Large Scale Development in
reference, but I would also like you to consider them in relationship to the
subsequent one on your agenda which is labeled LSD 06-1961. That is
also part of WRMC's construction project. Under the Conditions of
Approval #2 which speaks to the assessment of the $110,000 traffic light.
For that same study on which this is based, we believe that the traffic
study also indicates that that need is pre-existing even without our
construction project. I believe that is evidenced on page 26, first
paragraph under the recommendations. So it is a pre-existing conditions.
For that and two other reasons, we believe that this is an inappropriate
assessment for us. Second, WRMC is a non-profit entity - $110,000 is not
an insignificant expenditure and unexpected for us. We reinvest
everything that we have back into the community and this will require
some trade offs somewhere. So we would ask you to consider. And
finally, we would ask you to consider that to our knowledge, in the general
area where WRMC is located, none of the other developers or businesses
or commercial developments, past, current or in the planning stages, to our
knowledge again, has been asked to be a part of this same assessment and
they also contribute to whatever traffic is in that area. So we would ask
for you to consider those three points as you look at the assessment of the
traffic study. I would also like to introduce Tom Olmstead, our internal
counsel, who will make further comments related to this same Condition
of Approval.
Olmstead: Good evening, my name is Tom Olmstead and I am the General Counsel
of WRMC. I would ask that the Planning Commission in addition to its
consideration of the arguments made by Mr. Bever with respect to the
traffic signal, also consider the terms of section 166.05C7b and c of the
Large Scale Development ordinance found in the Unified Development
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Code which states that the developer may be required off-site
improvements where the need for such improvements are created in whole
or in part by the Large Scale Development or preliminary plat. As Mr.
Bever pointed out on page 25, in addition to page 26 of the traffic study
upon with the City's Staff recommendation was based, the Peters and
Associates Engineers who performed that study stated that it was found
that traffic signal warrants are currently met for the intersection of Futrall
Drive and North Hills Blvd., Fulbright Expressway ramp with existing
traffic volumes. It was found that traffic signal warrants are projected to
continue to be met for the intersection with the development as planned.
As the ordinance states, clearly based upon the findings that were made by
Peters and Associates, we see that the proposed Large Scale Development
under consideration tonight is not going to create in whole or in part an
increased amount at the intersection — it already exists and furthermore,
Subsection C of that same section discusses what should the developer be
required to bear in the way of costs and it states that the developer shall be
required to bear that portion of the cost of off-site improvements which
bears a rationale nexus to the needs created by the large scale development
or preliminary plat. Well here again, there already, pursuant to the
findings of Peters and Associates, is a need for an intersection regardless
of whether WRMC goes forward with this proposal or not. In addition, if
you would look at the traffic study, particularly figure 3 found on page 28,
the engineers did a study of the existing traffic patterns at this intersection
and found that we have a daily volume of 17,219 vehicles passing through
that intersection currently before we add this project. Page 24 of the same
study, the engineers project that an additional 3,314 vehicles will pass
through this same intersection as a result of the WRMC Large Scale
Development. That would be a 19% increase to the traffic that is currently
at that intersection. What the City Staff is asking is that WRMC pay
100% of the cost of this traffic signal and this seems to me to be out of
line with what would be required in the way of a rationale nexus between
costs and the impact of the project. Furthermore, as we move on, one of
the other requirements that I understand is being imposed or suggested by
the City Staff is contributing one half — item #4 — of the required
assessment as part of the first building permit to be issued, whether that be
LSD 06-1960 or LSC 06-1961 and talking with our engineers and
architects this evening, it is my understanding that this requirement was
put forth this evening. This is the first we have heard of it and we are
unaware of what the cost that is contemplated by this off-site improvement
is as well. I think the same issues that we have discussed just a moment
ago under the ordinance would apply to that recommendation as well.
Thank you.
Anthes: This Condition of Approval I believe was at the Subdivision Committee
because there was a finding specifically in favor of that subdivision. That
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should have been in your prior report. We were not given a copy of the
traffic study. We may have specific questions but I wanted you to be
aware that we haven't read it. Is the applicant finished then with the
presentation?
Applicant: Yes.
Graves: I happen to be on the rotating Subdivision Committee when this came
through and the items addressed by Mr. Olmstead in his presentation came
up there as well and it was the feeling of the Subdivision Committee that a
substantial portion of the traffic already present there is also generated by
the Hospital that is already there. And there was a rationale nexus and
there was a specific finding that it was appropriate to recommend in favor
of this condition. I wouldn't see any reason to change that here, in fact, I
would not be in favor of the proposal, the LSD plan without this condition
and without condition #4, because I would be concerned that we would be
generating a traffic hazard in that area. So on that basis, because of the
traffic concerns, I would vote to deny this LSD without those conditions.
Ostner: The applicant has brought up some good points about rationale nexus,
however, some points need to be addressed. Yes, there might only be a
19% increase in the traffic at this intersection, however, the City is not
requiring the applicant to improve that entire intersection by 19%,
meaning widening all lanes, installing signals, etc. The entire package
I'm sure would be much more expensive than a $100,000 light. That is
why the Staff has suggested what I think is very appropriate and even
generous to only ask for the light as the appropriate portion that this
development incur and be required to pay for in lieu. On this issues of
other developments surrounding this, I assure you I will vote against any
development in the future in this area that is not paying its fair share.
Hindsight is always 20/20 and simply because we didn't assess everyone
ten years ago when the problem started is no reason to not to attempt to fix
it today. I would be in agreement with Commissioner Graves that without
Condition #2 and #4, I would have to vote negatively on this development.
I would prefer to vote positive.
Williams: I am not disagreeing with any of the comments made here. I think you
and the applicant should also consider this as an appeal under Section
155.06 5A which talks about not only a rationale nexus but the
proportionality, the impact of this development of the City infrastructure
needs and they certainly have a right to say that rough proportionality is
not right and ask you for relief and you could reduce or eliminate it. But I
wanted to make sure that you have that appeal right, too — to appeal to the
Planning Commission.
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Clark:
I had a question at agenda if we could see a whole artist's rendering on
what the entire complex is going to look like when it is all built out. Did
you get that request.
Holloway: I understand that that was suggested but we have not had an artist's
rendering like that.
Clark: I was just wondering. I agree with Commissioner Graves and
Commissioner Ostner in terms of the impact has on that whole area and
quite frankly I'm a little surprised that only $110,000 is being requested in
improvements. As I look at Appleby going into Gregg and North Hills, I
see those intersections also needing attention and I am assuming that the
City or other developments in the area will be hit with that cost. I think
that this light is necessary, the improvement is necessary and it is one of
the reasons I am very enthused about this project in general. I think the
expansions at the Hospital are commendable, we already passed the
addition of the fifth floor. I think that was a very well thought out and
well presented plan. I think this one and the next one coming up will both
bear similar scrutiny and approval, but I think these conditions are
absolutely right on. And with that, I will make the motion, recognizing
your right to appeal, that we approve LSD 06-1960 with the Conditions of
Approval as state and findings of facts as indicated by Staff.
Ostner: Second.
Anthes: We have a motion by Commissioner Clark and a second by Commission
Ostner.
Harris: I think I need a point of clarification. I am a little uncomfortable knowing
exactly how fair share is determined in this and I am little uncomfortable
knowing what other entities might or should have already provided that
they haven't provided therefore what WRMC is now going to be called
upon to provide. I would like some discussion about that.
Anthes: Mr. Pate, would you give our new commissioners some background on
traffic and street improvements and off-site improvements and how those
happen with development.
Pate:
Certainly. By ordinance, the ordinance says there is no set formula to
determine proportionality or rationale nexus. It is looked at in a case by
case basis, traffic generation, the existing conditions. We spoke about this
in the downtown area for instance, if you are adjacent to or within an
existing infrastructure that you will benefit from because it is already
there, you are developing in a place where you have infrastructure that you
may not have to improve. In other areas, that is not the case. For instance,
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subdivisions and developments out in the west side of town, east side of
town, potentially have more improvements, roughly proportional to their
development than one would have in the downtown area. In looking at
this particular area, actually reviewing escrow accounts today, there have
been assessments made for a signal at the North Hills Blvd and Appleby
intersection. There have been assessments made for Longview Street. We
actually looked at and requested the applicant look at the intersection of
Appleby and Gregg, however, knowing that there are street improvements
planned by the State and funded in part by the City, those improvements
are occurring at this time, so we are not requesting additional funding. We
know those are funded improvements occurring at this time. Otherwise
we would have likely seen improvements at that area, too, because major
traffic generation obviously from this development is coming from North
Hills from the north, off Futrall and I-540 and from the west off of
Appleby and the east from Appleby. In looking at development, to get
back more directly to your question, in assessing those improvements,
Staff makes a recommendation to this Planning Commission. You
determine whether the traffic generated by that development and looking
in context with the infrastructure that is surrounding, whether there is an
improvement needed at all. If there is an improvement needed, Staff
would then make the recommendation on what proportion of that
improvement would be borne by this developer. In reviewing the traffic
study, based on the traffic study, North Hills Blvd. and Futrall already
warrant a traffic signal and then based on the same subsection that the one
gentleman spoke, the Subdivision or Planning Commission may refuse to
approve a large scale development if subsection 4, the proposed
development would create a dangerous traffic situation and then it goes on
the say what that dangerous traffic situation is. In this case, if a traffic
signal is warranted and more traffic is put into the intersection without
some improvements, it could possibly compound a dangerous traffic
situation. We felt it was evident that improvements should occur and we
felt that the full cost should be borne by this very large development, the
largest in this area based on the significant expansion that they are looking
at. The reason condition #4 breaks that improvement up into two different
large scales is because obviously those two large scales plus the fifth floor
of the hospital all have different impact. And what we propose to do is to
try to distribute that cost among those two projects. There are two
different large scale developments and we proposed to simply assign half
to one and half to the other.
Harris: Thank you.
Anthes: I'm surprised we haven't heard more about Commercial Design Standards.
I was wondering if someone could move the colored board with the sky
out where we could see it a little better. I certainly understand Staffs
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position on the north elevation of the Gymnasium and while I understand
and sympathize with the applicant on that one elevation that it is waiting
to accept an addition, we also don't know whether that addition will be
forthcoming and how long it will remain in that way. As I understand it, it
is the elevation that directly faces North Hills Blvd. and is closest to North
Hills Blvd. Is that correct?
Kelly: No, it is perpendicular to North Hills Blvd.
Anthes: Right, but North Hills Blvd. is serpentine and you look directly at that end
from the portion of North Hills that is snaking around as far as I
understand it from our site plan. I think it is very visible. Whether or not
it actually fronts it, it is extremely visible. In fact, I am looking at the site
plan and I am looking at the streets and how this sits in the site and it
appears like even the interior faces in this sort of courtyard or around the
stream, it looks like almost every single building faces is really highly
visible from one of the main streets either North Hills or Appleby Road
and when I look at these elevations I don't believe that they have the
degree of articulation that we often require on other commercial designs,
either in the area or around the City. So I was hoping that we would have
some further discussion on Commercial Design Standards and would ask
if any other Commissioners have any comments.
Graves: Just to relate back to Subdivision, there were a number of these walls that
looked sort of like the north elevation of the Gymnasium looks now and
they have done a good job, in my mind at least, of fixing what we felt
were a lot of blank walls and at the same time tying it to the structure that
is already there. I wasn't here when the original hospital came through,
but some degree you are working with trying to make this look similar to
what is already there, whether this particular Commission would feel like
what is already there matches what we get approved today on Commercial
Design Standards and so we were, as we made recommendations to them
on Commercial Design Standards, recommending some more use of glass
and some brick column -type things that looked a lot more like what is
already out there. From that stand point I think the applicant has done a
really good job of going back and reworking these renderings and making
it look like what I know in my mind's eye the existing hospital already
looks like. While, it may not match perfectly with what might get
approved on other things, we require awnings and things like that on some
buildings — awnings on the hospital, I'm not sure that would be a thing
you would do for example, so we were trying to get them to tie it in from a
design standpoint to what is already out there, and I think they have done
that. So I would be in favor of these elevations with the exception of the
north elevation on the Gymnasium.
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Anthes: Any further comments?
Myres: I have to admit that the composite up here is a little daunting. I believe it
is looking directly into the education center entry way from Appleby. It
appears that, and correct me if I am wrong, that the large dark block
section here is actually curved?
Kelly:
It is actually an obtuse angle, it is the lobby that connects between the
clinic and the education so it is not a 90 degree, but it is a greater than 90
degree angle.
Myres: So we are looking at a curved corner in the center and then it goes back.
Kelly: And then there is an exit canopy that is not illustrated for the clarity of
seeing the building, so that there is a canopy. That is the curved portion
that you see on the plan.
Myres: I still find that the individual elevations by themselves very attractive and I
think there is enough variety and material and color to meet Commercial
Design Standards. I don't find this view particularly persuasive in
convincing me that I am right when I say that. I know there have been a
lot of significant changes made at the request of Subdivision Committee
and I have to agree with Commissioner Graves that I think it is in keeping
with the existing building. I think the additions that you have made have
improved the variety of what you see in terms of materials. So I don't
have any problems with it.
Morgan: May I add that the picture on the easel was done prior to this submittal, so
there is a little more articulation but this is the only view I had of what it
would all look like together.
Anthes: That helps to know that.
Harris:
Kelly:
Mr. Kelly, to go back to Commissioner Myers' question about the canopy
— is that the curved linear structure? Do you mind pointing to what the
materials on that will be - are they up here at all?
I really don't have a depiction of it. It is going to mimic what we have at
WRMC and also Walker-Harton Vascular which is a sloped canopy what
cars can pull under. It is a cantilevered canopy — you have columns in the
back and the roof just hangs out. It is supposed to be one way, but the
clients may come and go as they please, but we have designed it so it is
one way so the passenger side is adjacent to the front door to come in.
That is a lobby. It is a round structure. It is to give some of the same
language as Chair Anthes said of the hospital — we wanted the same
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Harris:
Kelly:
Anthes:
Kelly:
language so you know that it is a common element with the whole
hospital I think the next project has more things that help with the — the
Emergency Room — we are not the architects of that project but they are
still doing the same languages throughout the whole campus. And again,
ours is two acres out of this 52 acres, but we are very happy to have this
project before you.
The canopy brings these buildings in conversation to the main campus and
at the same time, again looking at this, does it bring the buildings
themselves sort of in relationship to each other as well?
It is more of a curve against a point. The angle of the lobby is going away
from it and it is curving at the front.
Mr. Kelly, are these the main walls with the windows on it essentially flat
or is there any kind of articulation of the wall surface itself — each of these
square volumes?
We do have different materials so the different materials will be in and
out. There is an alucabond wall panel system, there is brick, there is split
face block, smooth face block and different colors of brick so that we do
have articulation visually as well as the different materials so there is color
as well as materials.
Anthes: Can you tell me what the support enclosure elevations — where they exist
on the plan?
Kelly: The supported enclosures are for the trash container, the dumpster and also
for our transformer. They are about five feet tall as you view them from
the existing parking lot. If you were looking at it, you would see North
Hills Blvd. past them. The transformer is actually eight feet lower than
the bottom of that wall, so it is about 12 feet of structure and things we can
have behind it. We are trying again to keep the same materials, the same
language, but have these things so that they go away. This would be the
west end, as we call it, of the clinic. Now you would see a little bit about
it on the south of the clinic as you look at the clinic from the parking lot.
But from that you would see that this isn't a front door, you see to your
right, you see the canopy, the drop-off canopy, you see the alucabond of
the lobby and you know there is portal, there is entry, that is where I need
to go. These are block and different things to fully screen all four sides.
Anthes: So that is sort of on the northwest corner of the clinic as it is angling over.
Kelly: Yes, pretty much.
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Clark:
Kelly:
Clark:
Kelly:
Clark:
Kelly:
Clark:
Anthes:
Clark:
Anthes:
Clark:
Anthes:
Ostner:
The north elevation of the Gymnasium. I know that your explanation is
perfectly feasible that there will be an expansion with a pool. If a
benefactor is listening tonight and wants to phone in an offer for that pool,
where would it go on that elevation? How would the elevation change?
That would be an interior wall. There would be a new wall along North
Hills Blvd. and a new wall along the stream bank and a new, basically
west elevation, the north elevation. So there would be a new north
elevation — there would be three new walls around a new pool and therapy
pool.
I also understand the concerns from the other Commissioners that that
could be a long time in coming and looking at this blank, unarticulated
portion of that wall could be what we see for a while to come. Would
there not be some room to compromise to put something on that totally
blank space that still could be utilized if it became an interior wall, like
some lower windows?
It was an entirely blank wall prior to Subdivision as Mr. Graves said and
we have added windows and different things that we thought would still
beneficial to the clients as well as take some of the plainness of that wall
off.
And it worked on one end. If it becomes a swimming pool, it will be
utilitarian. I could go for it if you could just put a window or two or
something. We are going to see that; it is going to be visible.
I'm sure our clients are agreeable to that. We will work something in for
you.
That would help me tremendously. Windows would get 13 out of 13.
Are you amending the motion?
Yes.
Would that be an administrative review by Staff?
Yes, subject to Staff review and approval.
Does Commissioner Ostner agree?
If we phrase it a little more specifically. I'm not sure how to phrase it
specifically.
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Clark:
Anthes:
Ostner:
Anthes:
Pate:
Anthes:
Pate:
Williams:
Clark:
Williams:
Clark:
Ostner:
Roll Call:
With revisions to the northern elevation with the addition of windows or
other means of articulation subject to review and approval of Staff.
And that would be added to the favorable finding on condition #1.
That would be fine with me.
Is there further discussion. One quick question of Staff. On item #3, the
Shumard Oaks that were apparently not ever planted, although were
existing on the original large scale development, were those part of
mitigation or required trees, or were they just trees they wanted to put in?
I think they were probably just that they chose to put in.
So we don't have an issue there of being short.
I think it is just the location — in the right-of-way as opposed to the
landscaped area, so we are recommending a compromise. It fulfils the
same function.
As part of condition of approval #2, I want to call your attention back to
the appeal process. It says the Planning Commission shall determine after
public hearing which you just had, whether the required dedications and
improvements meet the rough proportionality of the impact of the
development on City infrastructure and services. If the requirements are
in excess of rough proportionality, the Planning Commission is
empowered to modify or reduce such requirements to achieve rough
proportionality, but I would like some sort of finding on that since it was
brought up tonight by the applicant.
My motion would indicate a finding of approval for the indicated amount.
If they meet the rough proportionality test.
Yes.
And as a second, I would concur.
The motion to approve LSD 06-1960 carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
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LSD 06-1961: Large Scale Development (WRMC ADMIN SVCS BLDG.,
EMERGENCY SVCS, PARKING GARAGE, 211/212): Submitted by USI -
ARKANSAS, INC. for property located at 3215 NORTH HILLS BLVD. The property is
zoned R -O, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE and contains approximately 52.03 acres. The
request is for a 64,068 s.f. Administrative Services Building, a 23,397 s.f. expansion to
emergency services, an expansion to the Central Plant, with reconfigured parking and
parking garage.
Morgan: The proposed development has several additions including a 362 parking
space parking deck as well as some surface parking and some expansions
to the existing building as well as the new building. Again issues with this
LSD that we have identified are street improvements, finding that this
would potentially compound a dangerous traffic situation therefore, we are
requesting an assessment for a traffic signal. One of the items discussed at
Subdivision Committee was the internal traffic circulation requesting to
connect the proposed and the existing parking areas. The applicant has
attempted to do this and has done so in one of the most western most
parking lots, but they were not able to connect the two main parking areas
due to grade and based on this information Staff recommends in favor of
the proposed parking circulation. One of the other main items discussed
was Commercial Design Standards. The Subdivision Committee and Staff
found that the elevations of the Administrative Services Building as well
as the parking garage presented at the Subdivision Committee did not
comply with Commercial Design Standards. Upon further review we have
taken a look at some pictures submitted by the applicant of the view from
the vacant adjacent property to the west, looking to this piece of property
where the parking deck would be located. There is an existing tree
easement located to the west of the parking area which has existing tree
canopy and would screen the parking garage. In addition, the proposed
Administrative Services Building would screen the parking garage to the
south. Therefore Staff finds that the parking structure appears to be
sufficiently screened and the materials would match the existing hospital
and therefore finds that is compliant with Commercial Design Standards.
However, we do recommend further articulation of the east, west and
south elevations of the Administrative Services Building. The applicant
has submitted pictures to represent what the existing structure looks like
and larger elevations of the colored renderings of the proposed structure. I
believe that in my discussion with the applicant, this is intended to be a
service building and not stand out as much as the hospital, however, we
have evaluated this as just a building which would have to meet
Commercial Design Standards.
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Anthes: Would any member of the public like to address LSD 06-1961? Seeing
none, I will close the floor to public comment. Would the applicant like to
make a presentation?
Holloway: Jerry Holloway with USI -Arkansas. Suzanne has probably mentioned
everything that I needed to say and we would welcome any comments or
questions that you have.
Olmstead: Tom Olmstead — Washington Regional Medical Center would request that
the same arguments that we advanced in respect to LSD 06-1960 be
considered by the Planning Commission in this LSD 06-1961. That is an
appeal of the Staff recommendations.
Anthes: Does the applicant have any further presentation? Commissioners. Do we
have a Subdivision report?
Ostner: I believe I was chairing that Subdivision Committee. This item, as I recall
was a little more difficult than the last item at Subdivision Committee.
Discussion over Commercial Design Standards was thorough. That's
about the extent of my recollection. If the other two Commissioners recall
anything more....
Graves: The main thing I recall and I may be thinking of something else, but we
had hoped to get a sample here because there was some question as to
whether the color in the rendering was actually what we were going to see
on the building itself. I think it was represented at Subdivision that the
color was maybe a little bit darker and than matched up with what is
already on the hospital a little better than what it appears to on these
boards. With that said, again I'm trying to recollect what we had in front
of us at Subdivision, but I'm not sure I have seen much that has changed
and Staff can maybe help us with that. We stated that we didn't find in
favor of Commercial Design Standards on these particular elevations.
Lack:
As the third member of that Subdivision Committee, I would concur with
that assessment. I think I did have a feeling that the parking garage was
screened very well by the trees and in that those were a tree easement and
not just a stand of trees that were not protected in anyway on the site. I
felt that it did give credence to an approval for the parking garage. I am
also looking at the parking garage just as a matter of materials at this point
and I am looking at in my investigations today of the drawings that it
seems that it is just a colored concrete and not consistent with the building
materials on the rest of the campus, but consistent in color I would
assume. The color has been shown on the renderings. With the
Administrative Services Building I think that this building was one that we
all concurred on in Subdivision Committee that it did need more
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articulation. When you assess this building purely by the ordinance and
the creation of a box -like structure, I think this building fits that. With
exception of possibly the east elevation which is the entry and the
elevation directly responds to the rest of the hospital. With that I think the
screening of the parking garage was the only thing that I can recall that
there was any wavering on. Whether there might be some meeting of the
Commercial Design Standards.
Anthes: Mr. Pate, I know that landscaping doesn't count as mitigation for
Commercial Design Standards and in this case, Staff did find differently?
Pate:
I think because it is unique as opposed to a tree to be planted along a wall
that could be removed at any point, tree preservation easements are very
specific — no tree removal can occur without City approval under the
authority of our Urban Forester. This is a trail corridor and as part of this
overall project, there are tree easements that were probably not the best
located on the site when the original large scale development came
through. Those have been abandoned and significantly improved along
the trail corridor and along the creek corridor, so these tree preservation
easements will be in place for a very long time, permanently at this point.
That lends credence to that argument as Commissioner Lack mentioned.
The very fact that the Administrative Services Building is pretty much in
front of the parking garage as well, I think is also part of that. We have
recommended approval of, a thing that comes to mind, a mini storage unit
that had a commercial building in front of it, because obviously you could
not see that. This is also at a higher elevation and a higher story level than
that parking garage too so we felt, though it is not as articulated if it were
adjacent to the street as we saw the one on Dickson Street that had full
frontage onto a public right-of-way, the actual visibility of this will be
limited and that is really the point of Commercial Design Standards is
from the public right-of-way and the public realm to meet those
Commercial Design Standards, so we recommend in favor of that parking
structure.
Anthes: And because the north elevation of that parking structure is really visible
from the internal parking circulation and not from a major road.
Pate: Correct.
Anthes: Are there any more comments about Commercial Design Standards.
Clark: Has any changed on these elevations from Subdivision to now?
Morgan: I would be happy to read some excerpts from the letters from the
applicant. They state — "the elevation board for the parking garage was
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Clark:
Morgan:
Anthes:
Graves:
not submitted because they did not change anything on it" So they want to
use the original board that we already had. They have provided photos of
the existing structures on the campus to show the materials that will be
used on a proposed ASB building and from the architects specifically —
this is on page 15 of your Staff report — regarding the Administrative
Services Building, the architect states that "we think what appeared to be
horizontal banding fueled their request for vertical banding. This new
colored rendering shows how it was meant to look. We have also
included two pictures of the central plant to use as an example of how the
building compliments the appearance of the hospital, without all the
articulation of the hospital" I think they were trying to give us pictures of
the central plant to show how they wanted this to be separate looking from
the hospital and if you can't find those pictures, I would be glad to supply
some to you. That is a picture of the hospital and that of the central plant.
Have the elevations changed or the
elevations?
The parking elevation has not changed.
Subdivision and I actually have the old
can see the differences if any. I can't tell
renderings changed about the
It is the same one that was at
ASB building elevations so you
what they are.
It looks like it has not changed, although the renderings are more true
now. I would state that I cannot find in favor of Commercial Design
Standards on this building. I understand that the client is saying that it is
Administrative Services and it really isn't as important as other buildings
but we evaluate gas stations for Commercial Design Standards, car
washes, all sorts of projects and the use of the building is really not an
issue in our review. It is the appearance of the building, that is what we
are changed to look at. This has a very prominent, particularly the
southern elevation, directly on Appleby Road which is very well trafficked
and with that additional consideration of that elevation, I will vote against
this project.
I just wanted to state that at Subdivision, I don't remember there being any
misunderstanding about horizontal or vertical banding. Our comments
were directed at the fact that it just didn't seem to match the look of the
rest of the hospital and there needed to be more articulation as Staff
recommends. There wasn't any misunderstanding on my part and I don't
think there was on the other members of Subdivision Committee. I am
particularly about Commercial Design Standards on the Administrative
Services Building when it is being used as part of the justification for
approving the parking garage because the ASB is going to be screening
the parking garage. So I have could vote in favor of the parking garage
with the understanding that there is a tree preservation easement there that
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is not going to be removed and helps screen it. And with the
understanding that the ASB helps to screen it, but I don't want to screen
one non -conforming building with another non -conforming building. That
lends itself to having even more concern about the way the ASB looks
because it is being used to help screen the parking deck. I would not be
able to approve the vote in favor on the building as it looks right now. In
fairness I said as much in Subdivision Committee.
Anthes: Question of the City Attorney. It sounds like we have had a lot of
discussion about Commercial Design Standards and that we are not
finding in favor of them. In deference to this applicant, what are the
courses of action whether we deny this project or if we would table this
project and ask them to come back to us.
Williams: You might ask the applicant what they would prefer. It is possible that
they might not get a positive vote on this LSD without any further changes
to the ASB and see whether or not they would want to table it to work on
it harder or not.
Clark:
My packet says that looking at the ASB emergency services and parking
garage. Where — point out if you would Jeremy, the elevations for the
Emergency Services Building.
Pate: Your 11 x 17 packet, it would be the first — it is a stand alone sheet. The
materials, the banding, etc.
Ostner: I'm not sure I evaluated this at Subdivision — this particular elevation.
That is a concern.
Anthes: Can you locate this building on the plan for us?
Pate: All of the shading, the structures that are shaded, are the expansion.
Anthes: That is labeled Emergency expansion?
Pate: Yes.
Anthes: These elevations don't have the materials called out on them, which is one
of our general requirements.
Myres: It does state that all building materials to match existing. I don't know if
that is sufficient.
Holloway: I would like to recognize Kyle McCann, WRMC.
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McCann:
Anthes:
Clark:
Myres:
Anthes:
Pate:
Clark:
Anthes:
Clark:
Pate:
Holloway:
Anthes:
I am Kyle McCann, Chief Operating Officer at WRMC. To your question
as to what we would like to do — being that part of this LSD application
contains our Emergency Department expansion, we are currently at
capacity. We are closed about 20% of the time. It is very urgent that we
move forward, for community need purposes with this project, we would
like to request your permission to table this issue until we could work with
you all to come up with a suitable architectural design.
Thank you very much. If someone will entertain a motion...
So moved.
Second.
A motion to table by Commissioner Clark and a second by Commissioner
Myres. Is there further discussion?
Just for the applicant. If they would like to sit down with Staff if possible,
to work out calling out materials and looking at ways as we did with the
Senior Center to go through that I think Suzanne worked with Thad Kelly
to go through all those elevations to come to something that Staff would
recommend. I would recommend the same.
My motion (timeline) was at the discretion of Staff.
That is your option — you can refer the item back to Subdivision with your
motion and we can vote on that or we can vote to table and bring it back to
this meeting.
Jeremy, what would Staff's recommendation be?
I would recommend it come back to this level, since it has already been at
this level. I think we have an understanding, at least the materials and
things of that nature, from a Staff perspective — we can work on ideas, we
understand what the hospital looks like already. The Planning
Commission has approved this structure here that is before the podium
which is similar to scale and materials. I think we could look at that.
As I understand what your concerns are — the Commercial aspects of the
ASB building is the main concern, correct? So that is the main building
we would be working with?
That is the main concern. There has been some discussion about the fact
that the Emergency Expansion building may not have been reviewed very
thoroughly at Subdivision. They may not have understood that the
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elevations were submitted and the elevations do not have materials called
out on them, so there might be a little bit of work to clarify those with
Staff and we would ask that you would work with them on both of those
buildings.
Graves: My recollection from Subdivision is that we addressed the Emergency
Services and they told us essentially that is was going to be a typical
looking emergency area and they would provide elevations at full
Planning Commission. It was a relatively small portion of the overall
project and we forwarded it with that understanding and also with the
understanding that we had some issues with the Commercial Design
Standards on the other buildings and so if we were going to be taking
those up. We didn't have a lot or problems with the rest of the plan.
Commercial Design Standards were the main issue that was left hanging at
Subdivision and we went ahead and forwarded it instead of holding it up
on that one issue and felt that on a big project like this it would be good to
have full Planning Commission opinions to weigh in on that. We were
aware of emergency services buildings and aware that we didn't have
renderings at that point. We did ask for, though, material boards and
things like that at full Committee, so I am hopeful that when you come
back in a couple of weeks, you guys can provide that to us, so we have a
little bit better look at what it is going to be constructed of as opposed to
these drawings.
Anthes: In addition, I would say that the linear footage of the elevations on that
expansion are at least as large as the ASB from the plans, so we do need
the full renderings and materials and labels. So if you would work with
Staff on that. And to clarify the motion is on the table, and that motion is
to table indefinitely and we think it will come back to the next Planning
Commission.
Williams: At Staff's discretion.
Anthes: At Staff's discretion. Is there further discussion?
Ostner: Before we go ahead and shut this for tonight, I was at Subdivision, one
who was concerned with the parking deck and I first have a question for
Staff. How exactly is that deck shielded from Fulbright Expressway?
Excluding any landscape.
Pate:
On the western side from I-540/Fulbright Expressway and Futrall which is
actually between those, there is the tree preservation which goes all the
way down to Futrall Avenue, the Skull Creek corridor for instance is
planned to underneath I-540, so the tree preservation easement goes all the
way along the western side of that. Additionally, there are several large
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parking areas, existing ponds, existing landscaping along Futrall Avenue
as well. As you can see, the WRMC is directly to the east, so that
provides screening at least from the northeast, but otherwise it is a matter
of distance and elevation. Elevation difference is quite significant from
this to Futrall and Fulbright.
Ostner: I appreciate that, however, I would like to disagree. I believe the tree
preservation area we are talking about is depressed, lower. That drainage
easement is all much lower than the Expressway and Shiloh which are all
in the same right-of-way. I think the north end of this parking structure
will be highly visible from a public right-of-way. It concerns me that it
does not meet the Commercial Design Standards. On the west side, I
understand there is a good argument being made for the tree preservation
easement being a mitigating factor to not requiring the west part of the
parking deck to comply with Commercial Design Standards, however, on
that same logic, that trails corridor is a form of public access. The citizens
of this town and the Council have been pretty vocal that alternative
transportation in this town is determined to be as important as the car, not
to be cast off as a little trail for kids. If that is the case, the trail corridor
should at least be given the same amount of respect, so to speak, as a
public right-of-way, which I would argue it is. It is simply not a vehicular
right-of-way. So I would have to vote against the parking deck as it is
drawn today — it is simply short of the rest of the development, the
existing hospital that is very nice and needs a parking deck. I wanted to
say that before you went back to the drawing board and assumed that the
parking deck is going to breeze through. I don't think it will.
Anthes: Thank you Commission Ostner. I was actually following up on a question
to Mr. Pate earlier when I was asking about the landscaping not being a
mitigating factor for Commercial Design Standards and ask him what side
of the trees that trail is going? The other thing I would state to reinforce
what you are saying that we required other projects to add articulation to
sides facing trails. The Wal-Mart addition at CMN is one of those projects
that we requested additional articulation for the very reasons you stated. I
guess I would like Staff to have another look at that and come up with
recommendations. Is there further discussion? Please call the roll.
Roll Call: The motion to table LSD 06-1961 carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
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RZN 06-2008: Rezoning (CMN BUSINESS PARK, 172-211): Submitted by
MCCLELLAND CONSULTING ENGINEERS for property located at CMN BUSINESS
PARK II PHASE III, NW OF VAN ASCHE AND STEELE BLVD. The property is
zoned R -O, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE and C-1, NEIGHBORHOOD COMMERCIAL and
contains approximately 53.93 acres. The request is to rezone the subject property to C-1,
Neighborhood Commercial.
Fulcher: The subject property contains approximately 54 acres known as CMN
Business Park II, Phase III located east of Gregg Avenue and north of the
proposed extension of Van Asche Drive. The tract consists of both C-1
property which is composed of about 17 acres and R -O which is
approximately 37 acres. There are various surrounding zoning districts
included RSF-4 to the south, R -A to the west and C-1 to the east. Mud
Creek and Skull Creek traverse the site along the eastern and northern
property lines. The applicants are proposing to rezone that portion of the
property which is currently zoned R -O to C-1, Neighborhood Commercial.
Staff is recommending approval of the requested rezoning. This site is
designated as Community Commercial and Office on the future land use
plan which consistent with the C-1 zoning district. The property is within
a large area of commercial development within the City and within the
vicinity of major thoroughfares, specifically I-540, Gregg Avenue and
Van Asche Drive. The extension of Van Asche Drive west of CMN
Business Park to Gregg Avenue in the near future will further connectivity
and access in this area. A traffic signal is also proposed or planned at the
intersection of Van Asche and Gregg Street. If you look at the map
probably on 25 of 26 which is the best view, gives a good outline of the
property and the proposed extension of Van Asche Drive to the
intersection of Gregg Avenue. There is a residential subdivision to the
south here, however, the property we are looking at and what is adjacent
to it is currently zoned C-1. What we are reviewing is a portion of it that
is zoned R -O north of that. We did take that residential neighborhood into
consideration and obviously with any proposed development of those
proposed lots we will take those residential homes into consideration with
screening, outdoor lighting and compatibility.
Anthes: Would any member of the public like to address this proposal for CMN?
Seeing none, I will close the public comment section. Would the applicant
like to make a presentation?
Sunneson: My name is Chris Sunneson, it is a pleasure to be with you again this
evening. I think Staff has pretty much wrapped up our request. If you
have any questions, I would be happy to address those.
Anthes: I have a question for Staff. How much of this property is within the
floodway and flood plain?
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Pate:
That I cannot answer. Obviously, on page 24 of 26 you can see the outline
of the flood plain and one of our primary trail corridors and so protective
easements for the wetlands and for the trail corridor will be in place for
any type of development along that area. The City and its design for Van
Asche is also planning on having the bridge or box culverts over the creek
be large enough for the trail corridor to have a low grade crossing, so that
is something we are very excited about as well to continue to facilitate this
corridor as well as the Mud Creek corridor as development of that nature,
that hopefully we will take advantage of that creek being there.
Anthes: Being that there is so much of this property in that flood plain and flood
way, what are the differences in building heights, setbacks and amount of
land that can be covered in the R -O versus the C-1 zoning districts?
Pate:
There are no differences in the amount of land that can be covered, that is
just Commercial Design Standards so that is 15% of your residential
office, C-1, C-2 — that doesn't change. The building height within R -O,
the only difference is that if you are adjacent to a residential property, you
have to step back the building height and in C-1, the building height is
even more restrictive — if you exceed the height of ten feet, you have to be
set back from a boundary line of a residential district a distance of one foot
for each foot in height. Residential Office is actually 20' in height, so it is
even more restrictive in height requirements.
Anthes: What about total building height?
Pate: There is no total building height in either one.
Anthes: And set backs?
Pate: They are close to the same. The C-1 is a 50' set back. The R -O is a 50'
unless you don't have parking in front which reduces it to 30'. I believe
the C-1 district allows for a reduction of 25' for a front building set back.
As far as the sides go, there is zero in C-1 and in R -O, they are 10' — 15'
when it is contiguous into a residential district and C-1 when it is
contiguous to a residential district, it is 10', rear is 20' and 25' R -O, so
they are relatively very similar. The uses are the primary difference.
Anthes: And because we have two new commissioners who are looking at
rezoning requests for the first time, would you indulge me by telling us the
difference in use units between R -O and C-1.
Pate: I believe those are found in a reference on pages 5 and 6 of your Staff
report. We always include a comparison basically and that is copied
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directly from our code. R -O allows for single-family, two-family
dwellings, manufactured home park, offices, studios and related services,
and professional offices, as well as the conditional uses that we see there,
such as eating places, multi -family dwellings, etc. What C-1 allows and
introduces into this area would be offices, studios, related services, eating
places would be a use by right, drive-in restaurants — that is use unit 18
which is gasoline stations, and drive-in restaurants. That would be
permitted there. Those are the type of different uses that would be
allowed by right versus by condition. It would discuss, actually when
looking at the minutes, some of those, when this was all zoned as part of
CMN, there was an original request for this to be zoned C-2 or C-1.
Because Van Asche was not going through with the overall development
when we were looking at that, Staff actually recommended that is be a
lesser density until we had some improvements coming forward. We do
have the improvements now which would include obviously Gregg
Avenue which has been improve significantly since 1996 and Van Asche
which would also allow for much improved circulation in that area.
Anthes: Also for our new commissioners. Rezoning requests do go to City
Council after we hear them here; they required five affirmative votes - it
can go either way to City Council because there is an appeal process, it
takes 5 affirmative votes to pass. Are they other comments or motions?
Clark: I make a motion that we forward RZN 06-2008.
Myres: Second.
Anthes: A motion by Commissioner Clark and second by Commissioner Myres to
forward this rezoning request.
Roll Call: The motion to forward RZN 06-2008 carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
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ANX 06-2006: Annexation (BROWN, 295): Submitted by BILL WATKINS for
property located at THE EAST END OF TOWNSHIP STREET. The property is in the
Planning Area and contains approximately 3.38 acres. The request is to annex the subject
property into the City of Fayetteville.
RZN 06-2007: Rezoning (BROWN, 295): Submitted by BILL WATKINS for property
located at the EAST END OF TOWNSHIP STREET. The property is zoned R -A,
RESIDENTIAL AGRICULTURAL and contains approximately 3.38 acres. The request
is to rezone the subject property to RSF-4, RESIDENTIAL SINGLE FAMILY, 4 UNITS
PER ACRE.
Morgan: The applicant is requesting an annexation of approximately 3.4 acres. It is
located adjacent to the Covington Park Subdivision located adjacent to the
City limits to the north as well as to the west. Township currently dead
ends into the subject property. It is currently built as a cul-de-sac though
the right-of-way was stubbed out to the property to allow for future
extension of the street. The applicant requests that this property be
annexed and rezoned RSF-4 to allow for a subdivision of the property for
single-family use. Staff would look at connectivity and future street
connections at the time of development. This is a portion of an overall 14 -
acre tract and the property owner also owns an additional 11 acres
extending from this property to Mission Blvd. At this time, however, the
applicant only requests annexation of a portion of this property. Based on
findings from Fire Department and Police Department, we find that
services can be provided adequately to this property. We find that a
zoning of RSF-4 would be compatible with the existing development in
the area and that the boundary created by this annexation would be
appropriate and will not extend the City limits out any further to the east
or south. With that we are recommending approval of the annexation as
well as the rezoning.
Anthes: Would any member of the public like to speak to the annexation or
rezoning for Brown? Seeing none, would the applicant like to make a
presentation?
Watkins: Good evening, my name is Bill Watkins and a lawyer in Rogers. I have
been retained by these folks to talk to you tonight. I don't have much to
add to the comments of Planning Staff, but two points. Number one, just
for the record, this property was properly released by order of the County
Judge on January 23`d so it is ready for annexation by the City. My client
has sold off these 3.38 acres that is why it has come before you to be
rezoned. The rest of the property he still owns and he has no desire to
annex or rezone at this point. It looks like the developer is looking to
come back to you with a large scale plan for approximately seven lots, so
even though it is a four units per acre density permitted under the RSF-4,
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it is going to be about two and a quarter. It will be well under the
requirements. I would be happy to address any questions you may have.
Anthes: Commissioners...
Ostner: I don't really have many questions about the annexation specifically but in
the report it talks about there is a cul-de-sac stubbed out where I'm
assuming this property will be accessed, since it is the only means of
access. My question is more on the preliminary plat — will that cul-de-sac
be given back and turned into a proper street or will it stay a cul-de-sac?
Pate:
It depends on how it was constructed. If it was constructed with the bulb,
that would be removed, that is our standard recommendation to remove
that and curb and gutter. We have seen projects actually at Subdivision
Committee level last week that that requirement was made as well. Yes.
Ostner: That is really not relevant to the annexation. I would be in favor of this
annexation. I will make a motion to forward ANX 06-2006 to the City
Council.
Clark: Second.
Anthes: There is a motion by Commission Ostner and a second by Commissioner
Clark. Is there further discussion? Will you call the roll.
Roll Call: The motion to forward ANX 06-2006 carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
Ostner: I will make a motion that we forward RZN 06-2007, tandem to this
property.
Clark: Second.
Anthes: There is a motion by Commission Ostner and a second by Commissioner
Clark. Is there further discussion? Will you call the roll.
Roll Call: The motion to forward RZN 06-2007 carries by a vote of 8-0-0.
Anthes: Does Staff have any announcements? We are adjourned.