HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-06-18 - MinutesMINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE
SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE
A regular meeting of the Subdivision Committee was held on Friday, June 18, 2004 at
8:30 a.m. in room 219 of the City Administration Building, 113 W. Mountain,
Fayetteville, Arkansas.
ACTION TAKEN
LSP 04-1093: Lot Split (COULSON OIL) Approved
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FPL 04-1092: Final Plat (CLABBER CREEK PH II) Approved
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CCP 04-1051: (TWIN SPRINGS ESTATES) Forwarded
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LSD 04-1094: (JOYCE BLVD. MED.& PROF. CENTER) Forwarded
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ADM 04-1112: (MILLENNIUM PLAZA)
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FPL 04-1077: (FAIRFIELD PHASE II & III, 359)
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MEMBERS PRESENT
Jill Anthes
Loren Shackelford
Candy Clark
STAFF PRESENT
Craig Camagey
Dawn Warrick
Jeremy Pate
Rebecca Ohman
Matt Casey
Suzanne Morgan
Renee Thomas
Approved
Approved
MEMBERS ABSENT
Christian Vaught
STAFF ABSENT
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LSP 04-1093: Lot Split (COULSON OIL): Submitted by BOB HILL for property located at
THE S SIDE OF WEDINGTON DRIVE BETWEEN I-540 AND MARVIN AVENUE. The
property is zoned C-2, THOROUGHFARE COMMERCIAL and contains approximately 2.68
acres. The request is to divide the subject property into two tracts of 1.34 acres each.
LSP 04-1093: Lot Split (COULSON OIL): Submitted by BOB HILL for property
located at THE S SIDE OF WEDINGTON DRIVE BETWEEN I-540 AND MARVIN
AVENUE. The property is zoned C-2, THOROUGHFARE COMMERCIAL and
contains approximately 2.68 acres. The request is to divide the subject property into two
tracts of 1.34 acres each.
Anthes: Welcome to the June 18`h meeting of the City of Fayetteville Planning
Commission Subdivision Committee. We have six items of business
today. The first item is LSP 04-1093 for Coulson Oil. Will the applicant
come forward please?
Pate: This property is located on the south side of Wedington Drive between I-
540 and Marvin Avenue. The property is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare
Commercial and contains approximately 2.68 acres. The applicant is
requesting to split this tract of 2.68 acres into two tracts of 1.38 and 1.30
acres respectively. The site is currently vacant located between an
automobile wash to the west and the liquor store there at the corner of
Shiloh and Wedington to the east. A public waterline does exist in the
area but this property does not currently have access to that line. A public
line will need to be extended to each of these lots at the time of
development. Tract 1 currently does have access to public sewer at the
southwest corner of the property. Tract 2 is very close, however, it does
not have access to that sewer and a public sewer main will be required to
be extended to serve tract 2 at the time of development. Dedication of
additional right of way is required along Hwy. 16 at this time. Hwy. 16 is
a principal arterial on the Master Street Plan requiring 55' of right of way
from centerline which is indicated on the plat. Staff is recommending
approval of LSP 04-1093 at the Subdivision Committee level with seven
conditions. 1) The shared access easement shall be recorded with this Lot
Split and indicated on the plat to ensure safe traffic and pedestrian
movement. Staff finds that if you look to the north the centerline of
Steamboat Drive any curb cut in this general vicinity should line up with
that curb cut across the street to provide a safe means of access. This
access easement will provide a means by which future development on
either lot shall construct a drive onto Hwy. 16 directly across from
Steamboat Drive. The rest of the conditions of approval are standard
conditions or have to do with plat revisions.
Anthes: Thank you Jeremy. Are there any other staff reports on this item? Would
you like to give a presentation?
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Hill: I do have one question. We wanted to line the curb cut up and center it on
the line. Obviously, that would be the easiest way to develop it and divide
it into two lots but I understand you are wanting to move it over. Will we
be allowed to have one ingress and two egress there?
Pate: That is allowed within our commercial design standards. The time of
development is really the appropriate time to look at that. Right now we
are ensuring that adequate access across from Steamboat Drive will be
located in the access easement so that either property can utilize that
access easement.
Hill: Are we required to have to go back and redraw this and resubmit it or is it
approved? At Large Scale do we come in with a new drawing or when is
that done?
Pate: This plat is required to be filed. There are several revisions here. Those
will need to be submitted to the Planning office for approval.
Anthes: Is there any member of the public who would like to speak on this item?
Seeing none, I will bring it back to the Commissioners for questions or
comments.
MOTION:
Clark: It seems like a basic lot split. I will move that we approve LSP 04-1093
with the stated conditions of approval.
Shackelford: I will second.
Anthes: I will concur. Thank you very much.
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FPL 04-1092: Final Plat (CLABBER CREEK PH II): Submitted by GEOFFREY BATES for
property located at THE NORTH SIDE OF MT. COMFORT RD. BETWEEN RUPPLE RD
AND BRIDGEPORT DR. The property is zoned RSF-4, SINGLE FAMILY - 4 UNITS/ACRE
and contains approximately 28.36 acres. The request is to approve the Final Plat of a residential
subdivision with 88 single family lots proposed.
Anthes: The second item of business today is FPL 04-1092 for Clabber Creek.
Morgan: The applicant is requesting approval of a Final Plat for Clabber Creek
Phase II. The Preliminary Plat for this subdivision was approved by the
Planning Commission on April 14, 2003. This phase is within the RSF-4
zoning district and consists of development of approximately 30 acres
yielding 89 lots with 88 lots designated for single family use. The
property to the east has been developed as Phase I of Clabber Creek and
was approved by the Subdivision Committee on September 11, 2003. To
the west is the location of the approved Preliminary Plat for Wildflower
Meadows subdivision. Surrounding land uses consist of the previously
mentioned subdivisions either under construction or permitted and finaled
as well as vacant fields and a creek to the north. Water and Sanitary
Sewer have been extended to serve this development. Rights of way being
dedicated include 70' for Morning Mist Drive, a collector as well as 45'
from the centerline of Mt. Comfort, in addition to approximately 10' of the
property south of the centerline. The interior street rights of way are either
50' or 44' rights of way. Covenants have been submitted. Those
covenants are in the packets. They are towards the end of your packets.
Staff recommends approval of this Preliminary Plat with a total of 10
conditions which include 1) Subdivision Committee determination of
streetlight installation along the right of way of Mt. Comfort Road. One
streetlight is indicated at the intersection of Berkley Drive and Mt.
Comfort Road. Staff is recommending installation of two additional
streetlights along Mt. Comfort Road a maximum of 300' separation. In
addition, payment of an assessment for Rupple Road Bridge in the amount
of $10,080 prior to approval of the Final Plat. Payment of $13,200 into
the city's tree fund prior to Final Plat approval. Rights of way shall be
dedicated with the filing of this Final Plat. Covenants have been
submitted to the Planning Division for review. There are several plat
revisions and I have listed those within a memo contained in this report.
Anthes: Thank you Suzanne. Are there any other staff reports on this item?
Brady: We just need to coordinate with you guys on placing the park boundary
signs. We have them and will provide them to you. We just need to get
them to you and you can get them up.
Anthes: Would the applicant like to make a presentation?
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Bates: This is just a Final Plat and we are ready to move forward.
Anthes: Is there any member of the public that would like to speak on this item?
Seeing none, I will bring it back to the Commissioners for discussion.
Dawn, will you remind us what we review at this level on Final Plats?
Warrick: A Final Plat is basically the document that will be recorded confirming
that the installation of the subdivision matches what was approved at the
time of Preliminary Plat. What you are looking at is documentation of
what has been installed and the conditions addressing anything that needs
to be updated or remedied in any way prior to this plat being filed. Once
the plat is filed these lots are recorded and are legal lots of record and can
then be built upon.
Clark: Dawn, on the conditions of approval we are talking about streetlights, do
we need to make that determination?
Barnes: Dawn, where are we going to propose to install those streetlights along
Mt. Comfort? Are we going to install those amongst that right of way or
outside of that right of way?
Warrick: Streetlights are typically part of the street improvements within the public
right of way.
Anthes: Commissioners?
Clark: Are the two additional streetlights going to be an issue?
Barnes: I think the issue initially was that we have never had a request for
streetlights outside of the boundaries of the subdivision. In this instance
these are the only two streetlights along Mt. Comfort Road.
Clark: We could talk about improvements to Mt. Comfort Road but you don't
want to do that.
Barnes: We will talk about the streetlights at this time. We've made
improvements to Mt. Comfort Road . We widened it 14' curb and gutter.
We have made improvements to Mt. Comfort Road. I think the issue
before was it is based on where the location is and are these streetlights
going to be in the rear of a yard to a property owner here. What proximity
to Mt. Comfort are we going to install those? We have got a 45' right of
way here.
Warrick: We can work with you on the spacing and we will probably want our
Transportation Division, Mr. Franklin is generally the person who will
help to field check and locate if there are questions with regard to
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streetlights. I know that you guys will need to probably pull some
easements or maybe pull some line across the street. I am not sure where
the nearest location is for you to access the electric.
Barnes: I did speak with Mike Phipps with Ozarks Electric. He is the engineer for
Ozark in this area. He said the simplest form of lighting for Mt. Comfort
would be to utilize the overhead power and the overhead transmission
lines on the south side of Mt. Comfort Road. He said that would be the
easiest for Ozark as far as means of trying to light Mt. Comfort would be
to install a typical light attached to a transmission pole.
Warrick: This project is on the north side and extending those overhead electric
lines wouldn't comply with the city's underground ordinance. We will
need to work with you and with Ozarks to ensure that electric is pulled to
these two new locations underground. We will be glad to do that. They
are typically located within the public right of way and we just need to sit
down and decide how that is going to be accomplished.
Bates: A question on the ordinance, is it vague? Does it just say streetlights
every 300'? I have always interpreted it within the subdivision.
Warrick: The ordinance does state streetlights every 300' and then the other
specifications about the lumens and type of lights and the locations at the
end of cul-de-sacs. In this particular case we felt that it was appropriate.
It was mentioned in the Plat Review comments and it is a situation that
this developer is improving the street in this location and streetlights are
part of the street infrastructure.
Bates: Which Plat Review comments?
Warrick: Preliminary.
Bates: I didn't see it anywhere in the Preliminary Plat. We will install two
streetlights out there.
Barnes: The issue was if it was going to exceed the right of way it was going to be
in rear property boundaries of these lots. It was going to be some 31' from
back of curb. If we are going to install it in the right of way then that is
going to eliminate that issue.
Anthes: From what I understand, the Transportation Division and Perry Franklin
will work with the applicant and Planning to locate and determine how
these streetlights will be installed.
Warrick: Planning staff will ensure that that is accomplished prior to the signatures
going on the Final Plat.
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Anthes: Are there any other comments?
Barnes: We will provide written receipt of streetlights paid for and we will have
agreed that there will be some specific location on the plat for those
streetlights.
Warrick: We will accept proof of payment because a lot of time the utility
companies are not caught up with the developer with regard to installation.
We just need to ensure that the utility is there for the lights to be installed
at the proper location when they are ready to do so.
Barnes: When you spoke of utility easements can we not utilize that 20' rear utility
easement along the back of 11 through 16 to come underground to these
streetlights?
Warrick: Sure.
Anthes: Anymore discussion about streetlights can be handled with staff. Let's
look through the rest of the conditions of approval are acceptable to you?
Barnes: Yes they are.
Anthes: Are there any other comments or motions?
Shackelford: Is a Final Plat a recommendation to the Planning Commission or
something that the Subdivision Committee can approve?
Warrick: The Subdivision Committee has the authority to approve a Final Plat.
MOTION:
Shackelford: I will make a motion that we approve FPL 04-1092 with the specific
finding on condition one that there will be three streetlights required along
Mt. Comfort Road with specific locations to be determined by staff prior
to Final Plat filing.
Clark: Second.
Anthes: I will concur with one comment. Obviously, we haven't had a chance to
read the covenants.
Warrick: Covenants are not required except for the fact if there was any detention it
would need to be maintained by the Property Owner's Association. This
is not a Planned Zoning District where the city would be included as a
third party in the covenants.
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CCP 04-1051: Concurrent Plat (TWIN SPRINGS ESTATES): Submitted by DON
HILLIS for property located at 0.8 MILES SOUTH OF WHEELER RD, WEST OF
DOUBLE SPRINGS RD.. The property is in the Planning Area and contains
approximately 5.57 acres. The request is to approve the development of Phase I of a
residential subdivision with 5 single family lots proposed.
Anthes: The third item of business is a Concurrent Plat for Twin Springs Estates.
Would the applicant come forward please?
Pate: A Concurrent Plat is a combination of a Preliminary Plat and Final Plat.
Typically when there are no street improvements requested or other public
improvements requested with the subdivision of land or right of way
dedication a Concurrent Plat can be processed. This is a subdivision of
land. The property is located .8 miles south of Wheeler Road west of
Double Springs Road. The property is in the Planning area and contains
approximately 5.57 acres. The applicant is requesting approval of a
Concurrent Plat for a five lot residential subdivision named Twin Springs
Estates Phase L A Property Line Adjustment has been processed and
recorded to create this overall 5.57 acre subject tract. As I mentioned, no
dedications or public improvements are required with this requested
subdivision of land. Therefore, the Concurrent Plat process may be
utilized. Water lines do exist along Double Springs Road. As for sewer,
individual septic systems are proposed. As you know, public sewer is not
extended outside the City of Fayetteville. The developer has conducted
soil tests and submitted plans for each individual lot. Each lot has been
given preliminary approval by the Washington County Health
Department. There is no tree preservation or park land requirements
outside the City of Fayetteville. Double Springs Road requires a
minimum of 25' right of way from centerline. Currently this road has 30'
of right of way which is sufficient for our Master Street Plan requirements.
Because this is a combination, Preliminary and Final Plat staff is
recommending that it go forward to the full Planning Commission subject
to five conditions. Two through five are standard conditions. Actually,
number five can be eliminated. Washington County approval shall be
obtained prior to signatures being applied to the plat.
Anthes: Do we have any other staff comments? If not, we will bring it to the
applicant. Would you introduce yourself and make a presentation please?
Gabbard: Yes Ma'am. My name is Leonard Gabbard. I'm with Landtech
Engineering representing the developer. As stated, we do have full
approval on the septics on these lots. We hired Bailey Environmental
Services. Each lot has been designed and approved for septics for a four
bedroom home. Our intent here is to develop some high end homes. We
are looking at selling these lots for $60,000. We are looking at homes and
lot values at $300,000 to $350,000. At any rate, 2,000 sq.ft. homes and
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above and 85% brick. We are trying to put in a really nice neighborhood
with these first five lots. We have additional land in there that we will
come back to this Commission on at a later date that will require a little
closer look in terms of drainage and roadways and then septics on those as
well. If there is anything else that you all want to know feel free to ask.
Anthes: Thank you Mr. Gabbard. Is there any member of the public who would
like to address this item? Please introduce yourself.
Johnson: I'm Retied Lieutenant Colonel Don Johnson. I live directly below this
proposed development. I have been out there about 30 years. My
question is not about, I'm impressed that Mr. Gabbard is going to try to do
something positive in the neighborhood. My concern is why is the city
planning in an area in which I don't vote for anybody in the city. The
Quorum Court is represented by Celia Silkwood back here. The question
is who has authority over what is done in the area? Does the County have
veto over what is being done in there? There are clay pits all over the area
up there. It is a major problem right now. It is a major asset for
improving property here in Fayetteville or parking lots but they are eating
boundaries away. That's what they are doing here.
Anthes: Are these photographs of the property in question?
Johnson: It is adjacent. It is above me and below his property or the one he is
talking about. Everything that happens on that property drains through my
front yard. We are talking a water shed of/2 mile so if we turn it into a
rapid runoff I'll probably be washed away. These people put in a dam that
wasn't even engineered. It will probably break, it seeps underneath and I
would think the Planning Commission before you start approving
developments would look at the whole picture. That's my whole point
here today. I'm not trying to obstruct, we need something like this if you
are going to develop it. It is a beautiful wood area. These people went in
and cut the oak down, peeled it bare, sold it for firewood, started selling
the clay and the State or the County nor anyone could do anything and he
didn't even own the property. Do you see my point?
Anthes: Yes we do. What we need to do here is address this particular piece of
property and development and then put you in touch with the people that
you need to talk to in order to deal with the rest of this issue.
Johnson: Who would be the people I would talk to?
Anthes: I'm going to try to get you an answer.
Warrick: For clarification, as you stated, this area is not within the boundaries of
our city limits. Under State Law we have the ability to impose certain
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subdivision regulations and in that area when a property such as this does
not immediately adjoin the city limits, we, as the City Planning staff and
Commission regulate the division of lots and the provision of access and
water to this particular site. Other regulations as far as the type of street
improvements will be handled at the County level. This project is
required to go through the County Planning Board prior to being finaled.
The land use is not something that is controlled at either level because
there is not zoning in the County. For further information on that, you
mentioned Ms. Scott Silkwood, the County Planner who can assist you
with the County regulations. As I said, we look at these projects with
regard to certain subdivision regulations and configuration of the
subdivision of itself with regard to those properties within the city's
planning area.
Anthes: I'm sorry that we can't give you better information. We just don't have
any jurisdiction over it.
Johnson: I understand but it is a major concern to me.
Anthes: Is there any other member of the public who wishes to speak on this item?
Seeing none, I will bring it back to the Commissioners.
Clark: It seems that our jurisdiction is very limited in this area, is that correct
Dawn? The things we normally look at with a development within the
city don't apply?
Warrick: There are things that do not apply. We do take into account our master
planning such as master streets. This particular property we have looked
at that for our master street plan requirements. We would ask for right of
way dedications to comply with the master street plan if it were
applicable. We are looking for access, configuration of lots, provision of
water and in all other instances county standards would apply.
MOTION:
Shackelford: This looks to be fairly straight forward to me. I will go ahead and make a
recommendation that we forward to the full Planning Commission CCP
04-1051.
Clark: I will second.
Anthes: I will concur.
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LSD 04-1094: Large Scale Development (JOYCE BLVD. MED.& PROF.
CENTER): Submitted by STEVE CLARK for property located at N OF JOYCE BLVD,
W OF SUNBEST AVE.. The property is zoned R -O, RESIDENTIAL OFFICE and
contains approximately 4.93 acres. The request is to approved the development of a
professional office complex with five structures totaling approximately 39,180 sq.ft. and
169 parking spaces proposed.
Anthes: The next item of business is LSD 04-1094, Joyce Blvd. Medical and
Professional Center. Will the applicants come forward?
Pate: The subject property for this Large Scale Development request is located
at the northwest corner of Joyce Blvd. and Sunbest Avenue. The property
is currently zoned R -O, Residential Office and contains approximately
4.93 acres. The applicant proposes to construct a five building complex
consisting of 39,040 sq.ft. approximately of professional and medical
office space with 163 parking spaces proposed. A common architectural
theme is identified throughout and is noted in the architectural elevations
that we have several boards over here to review. Surrounding land use
and zoning includes to the north the regional land trust and single family
homes, which is zoned RSF-4. To the south is zoned RMF -24 and to the
east and west is zoned R -O and utilized as office type uses. Currently
right of way is required along Joyce Blvd. in the amount of 55' from
centerline, 25' from centerline along Sunbest Court. Street improvements
have been made along both of these streets including sidewalks. Any
driveway cuts of course sidewalks will need to be constructed through
those driveways. Water and sewer lines do exist to serve this development
and will be extended within the development to serve individual
structures. The tree preservation requirements are waived on this site.
There are three or four trees that are being relocated to utilize as street
trees. There are comments from the Landscape Administrator regarding
the relocation of those trees. Staff is recommending that this Large Scale
Development be forwarded to the full Planning Commission with 12
conditions of approval. 1) Planning Commission determination of
commercial design standards. Staff does find that these proposed
buildings meet all the commercial design standards. 2) Individual uses of
structures shall be subject to the R -O, Residential Office zoning district
requirements. The applicant has noted that this is a medical and office
type of complex. This is just to ensure that there are certain restrictions
with regard to the R -O district with the use units in that. For instance, no
more than four doctors in one building and that type of use. Any proposed
signage shall be approved through appropriate sign permits and are subject
to commercial design standards and other applicable sign ordinances. 4)
Trash enclosures shall be screened on a minimum of three sides with
materials that are complimentary to and compatible to the proposed
buildings. Most of these buildings are brick so we expect that those
screenings will incorporate brick. Access to this enclosure shall not be
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visible from the street pursuant to city ordinance. The only one that staff
has a concern about is the one directly from Joyce going all the way to the
north that would be visible from the street right of way. It looks like there
are proposed gates. I just want to confirm that. If those are then that
would work in that situation. The rest of the requirements are pretty
standard.
Anthes: Thank you Jeremy. Do we have any other staff comments?
Clark, S.: I'm Steve Clark.
Hudgins: I'm Garth Hudgins, the architect.
Hettinger: I'm Craig Hettinger, I represent the ownership.
Anthes: Is there anything about Jeremy's report that you would like to address?
Clark, S.: Is there any way that we can approve it at this level?
Anthes: Because we have commercial design standards and some other things
apply we'll probably go ahead and forward it. Is there any member of the
public who would like to address this item? Seeing none, I will bring it
back to the Committee for discussion.
Shackelford: I have one question for Jeremy. You said there was a waiving of tree
preservation based on some transplanting of trees on site?
Camagey: I can address that. The trees that are on site, there are six trees that are
below our threshold for requiring a canopy calculation. They are 6" in
diameter or below. They want to try to utilize those trees instead of just
taking them all out. They would like to transplant them. The area they
want to transplant them is along the street right of way and that is why we
are requesting as part of their landscape plan that they present a method of
transplanting and that those trees are going to be appropriate and
transplanted directly along our right of way.
Shackelford: We are not waiving the tree preservation there are just simply no trees on
this site?
Camagey: Yes.
Shackelford: I understand now.
Clark, S.: We do have a Landscape Architect on board that is going to be doing
some design work and will work with Craig on this.
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Anthes: I think the first thing we should discuss is commercial design standards. I
would ask that the applicant be sure to provide small scale versions of
these with materials labeled for the Planning Commission.
Clark, S.: We did, they are in your packet.
Pate: We will make sure to get those to you. I'm sorry about that.
Anthes: It is very useful in the future if you go ahead and label the materials on the
drawings in addition to providing a sample board.
Hudgens: The smaller ones have the materials labeled.
Anthes: Are you putting any signs on this site?
Clark, S.: There will be a sign.
Anthes: Will you be able to provide a drawing of that prior to Planning
Commission?
Clark, S.: Sure.
Anthes: Would we like to add a comment about gates for this trash enclosure that
is visible from the entrance of Joyce Blvd.?
Clark:, S. It will be screened on all four sides.
Anthes: Lighting, sidewalks.
Clark: We will see the landscape master plan in the next step?
Clark, S.: This does have some landscape on here.
Clark: Is it close to what we an expect?
Clark, S.: It will hopefully be improved upon by the Landscape Architect. I did this
one and as an engineer I put trees where I think they are supposed to go.
I'm not a landscape specialist but I get enough on there to get it through
and then the landscape people work with the plan.
Hudgens: The landscaping shown is what is required and then we are going to go
beyond that.
Carnagey: There are some details that need to be presented on the construction
document before building permit.
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Anthes: Is there any other discussion or motions?
Clark: Do we need to make the four sided screening part of the conditions?
Anthes: If you would wish to when you make your motion that would be clear.
Clark, S.: Condition number four says not to be visible from the street.
Anthes: We like to be specific so we all understand.
MOTION:
Clark: With that in mind, I will move for approval of LSD 04-1094 forwarding to
the Planning Commission.
Shackelford: I will second.
Anthes: I will concur.
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ADM 04-1112: Administrative Item (MILLENNIUM PLAZA) Submitted by
Milholland Company for property located at HWY 265 AND JOYCE BLVD. The
request is to approve modifications to the approved Large Scale Development on the
subject property.
Anthes: The next item of business is ADM 04-1112 for Millenium Plaza. Will the
applicants come forward?
Morgan: The applicant is requesting to modify a condition of approval for LSD 03-
33.00 which was approved on October 13, 2003. The development
included construction of a 32,344 sq.ft. retail structure with 135 parking
spaces. This project is delineated by Joyce Street on the east. Hwy.
265/Crossover on the west and Joyce Blvd. on the south. The property is
zoned C-1 to the north and C-2 to the south. Three drives will access this
property. The owner is in the process of obtaining a building permit for
this development. Following a submittal for those permits a representative
met with staff regarding modification to the approved Large Scale
Development. The change in the site plan results in the removal of four
parking spaces for a total of 131 parking spaces, which is within the
allowable spaces. The applicant also modified the elevations to the
structure. This modification is a major modification which is why it is
here before you today to consider this change. On page two of the report I
have detailed that the requested modifications include four changes. First,
there are new building elevations to the east, west and south. These
building elevations have been modified with the addition of drive through
lanes to the south and replacement of doors and windows to the east.
Also, there is a reduction in parking. They are removing four parking
spaces. There is also a reduction in the total area of the structure. The
structure was approved at 32,344 sq.ft. The proposed modification reduces
this area to 31,316 sq.ft. Also, there is a change in the site circulation to
allow for a drive through bank facility. Staff recommends approval with
conditions. There are four conditions stated. Subdivision Committee
determination of compliance with commercial design standards. All
conditions of approval from October 13, 2003, as modified herein, shall be
completed within three years from issuance of the building permit.
Revise building elevations and site plan to reflect the Large Scale
Development with the approved modifications shall be submitted prior to
commencement of any further development activity on the site. Large
Scale Development approval is valid for one year from the original date of
approval of the Large Scale Development.
Anthes: Are there any other staff comments? If you could introduce yourselves
and tell us about the changes here.
Fugitt: I'm Kim Fugitt, I'm the architect on the project.
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Jefcoat: I'm Tom Jefcoat, the engineer on this project.
Fugitt: We were approved on this original design and then had a bank come to us
and request this location for the end portion of this strip center. Of course,
along with a bank it is necessary to have drive through lanes and drive
through windows. This is an odd shaped lot in that at the point of a
triangle there it is very difficult to determine a way to get drive through
windows as well as the stack space required for that. This was our best
solution to that situation. We had the drive through window at the
building and then we had to cut off a portion of that in order to get the
stacking space, that's why this all took place. The elevations that you
have, we gave you a before and after, we have used the same building
materials. We'll still use the brick structures and awnings that are
interrupted by these "farmers market" type areas here. The drive through
windows will be of that same theme with wood and the exposed column
and the painted trusses and the signage background that we had originally
planned in these areas here. We are taking the same materials and same
design details and just reworking with that triangle shape.
Jefcoat: None of the outside perimeter of the site changed, none of the landscaping
or the utilities or entrances. The only change was internal and parking
spaces for this area. In fact, this island remains the same in both locations.
The site plan changes strictly occur here. No changing has changed, the
calculations still associate the same amount of hard surfaces. Grading
stays at the same perimeters as before.
Anthes: Thank you very much. Is there any member of the public that would like
to address this administrative item? Seeing none, I will bring it back to
the Commissioners for discussion.
Shackelford: Other than the bank fagade none of the other elevation facades of the
building was changed?
Fugitt: No.
Anthes: I do remember quite a bit of discussion on this project at Planning
Commission about the ingress and egress from the site. Would you talk to
us about the way that this traffic lane is going to work and if you expect
the stacking space to accommodate all of the cars and whether that is
going to have any impact at this intersection?
Jefcoat: If you will notice the landscape island there is separation. The traffic flow
will remain the same. The entrance to the project will remain the same.
This was not moved at all so the same distance from that intersection is
achieved. The stacking space is there are three lanes so it should be
adequate.
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Shackelford: Tom, do you have any idea how many cars could stack in that area?
Jefcoat: Up to 12.
Fugitt: That's not counting the vehicles in, that is just stacking space so there
would be 15 vehicles there.
Shackelford: That is a significant number of stacking for a branch location at a bank.
Clark: This is the first time I've seen this development so the connectivity onto
Joyce how many outlets?
Jefcoat: One.
Clark: Is there any connectivity or outlet to whatever this is that runs behind it?
Jefcoat: Yes.
Fugitt: Here is the connection here, this is Crossover and there are two
connections there.
Shackelford: One of the significant discussions we had at the first approval of this was
that Joyce is supposed to be realigned in a straight fashion behind this so
that back road is not going to be as significant in the future.
Clark: Ok. It seems like the drive through would be an interesting turn out unless
they could go some other way.
Jefcoat: We had an entrance here at one time and there has been a lot of discussion
about that. It is not allowed. We had tried to get an entrance here as well
as here but we will leave it like it is.
Anthes: We also have some significant topography to deal with on this site. The
administrative item is addressing two issues. It is addressing commercial
design standards and the parking spaces. Obviously, because of the drive
through lanes I think it is on the table to discuss the traffic circulations
within the site. If we would like to look at the building elevations and
make comments. Does the north elevation end up changed?
Fugitt: No.
Clark: It is the east and the south?
Fugitt: It is just that end.
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Clark: It is just going to have the metal roof out from the drive through?
Anthes: From the looks of the east elevation it actually improves with this in my
estimation in that we don't have the expanse.
Clark: Technically that's the back of the building?
Fugitt: Right.
Clark: It looks like a neat design.
Shackelford: I like this project. I liked it the first time and spoke highly of it and
assisted it the first time. I am going to go ahead and make a motion that
we approve ADM 04-1112. We are basically taking away four parking
spaces and a little over 1,000 sq.ft. for this building. We are changing a
limited amount of fagade and I think we have mentioned the changes in
that fagade, if anything, have added to the enhancement of this property.
Clark: I will second.
Anthes: We can approve at this level correct?
Morgan: Yes.
Clark: What are the other conditions of approval from October? Do I need to
worry about that?
Anthes: No. I will concur.
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FPL 04-1077: Final Plat (FAIRFIELD PHASE II & III, 359): Submitted by
ENGINEERING SERVICES, INC for property located at THE E SIDE OF SUNSHINE
ROAD AND W OF BRIDGEPORT SUBDIVISION. The property is zoned RMF -24,
MULTI FAMILY - 24 UNITS/ACRE and contains approximately 36.01 acres. The
request is to approve the final plat of a residential subdivision with 113 single-family lots
proposed.
Anthes: The final item of business this morning is FPL 04-1077 for Fairfield Phase
II and III.
Morgan: The applicant requests approval of the Final Plat for Phases II and III of
the Fairfield Subdivision. The Preliminary Plats for this development
were approved by the Planning Commission in 2001. Phases I and II were
heard together and Phase III was heard later. They have not been finaled.
Phase I was finaled first and now they are finaling Phases II and III
together. Surrounding zoning and land uses are to the north Hamestring
Creek and Planning area. To the south is Sage Meadows subdivision
zoned RSF-4. To the east are Bridgeport Phases IV, V, and VI. They are
zoned RSF-4. To the west is located in the Planning area and is vacant as
well as a few single family homes located there. Water and sanitary sewer
have been extended to serve this development. Rights of way being
dedicated include all interior rights of ways with widths of 42' as well as
50', varying for different streets. New Bridge Road is a collector at 70' of
right of way. Right of way for Sunshine Road was dedicated prior to
approval of the Final Plat for Phase I of this subdivision. Staff
recommends approval of FPL 04-1077 with 24 conditions. Condition one,
verification that a 15' sewer easement has been vacated by the City
Council prior to approval of the Final Plat. Maintenance of all open space
shall be provided by the Property Owner's Association. Condition three
shall be removed. The developer has complied with the Landscape
Administrator's requirement and therefore there is not the need for this
condition. Several conditions (4-7) are regarding floodplain. I will let
Mike Rozelle describe what exactly is needed there. Several of the
additional conditions of approval were taken from the conditions of
approval from the Preliminary Plats for Phases I, II and III. Condition
eight is a condition that swales be lined with concrete. In addition,
condition number nine, approval of this project regarding sewer capacity
will be evaluated if the sewer capacity is available at the time of
development. Condition number ten addresses assessments for sanitary
sewer improvements. This condition was made pursuant to PPL 01-04.00
for Phases I and IL Condition eleven, an 8" water line shall be installed
on Granby Street stub out to the east property line. If this has been done
then it shall be indicated on the plat as installed. Please remove condition
12. That is addressed in condition 13 more fully regarding a storm pipe
easement located between several lots to the north subdivision. Storm
water and floodplain issues shall be resolved as required by city staff prior
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to Final Plat approval. In addition, all conditions of approval for the
Preliminary Plats of these subdivisions shall be met and most of the
applicable items I have addressed in these conditions. In addition, the
requirements for street improvements to Sunshine Road. I believe they
have been completed. However, I have included that condition in these
conditions of approval. A 25' pedestrian access easement shall be added
as a 25' parkland dedication and that just needs to be clearly indicated on
the plat as such. I have included a memo regarding specific items to
address just on revisions for the plat within this report for Fairfield
Subdivision. There are a total of 24 conditions, four of which are standard
conditions of approval.
Anthes: Let's start with Mike. Will you tell us about the conditions that you have
requested?
Rozelle: During the Plat Review process we had some conditions regarding the
floodplain on the plat to include minimum finished floors and to create an
easement across the lots that were affected by floodplain, which they have
done. Those comments have been addressed. We did find out on the site
that a couple of the storm drain outlets are installed along Hamestring
Creek. When an area that would create an immense erosion problem and
that really wasn't a good way to stabilize it. They revised the storm drain
plans to address that problem and submitted them to us and we reviewed
them and have given a verbal approval and should be improving those
today to go ahead and install that with some conditions that they do some
permanent stabilization around those headwalls and maybe some
additional grading to reduce the possibility of erosion. Some of the other
comments too, are that final stabilization will need to be done on the site
which means the site needs to be revegetated. I understand they have
seeded it and done some other measures to address that. However, we
will want the site vegetated before we sign off on the Final Plat or some
other type of erosion control measures installed until that vegetation is
established. That is basically it at this point.
Ohman: We need to ensure that we have adequate room for the trail between some
of the drainage structures and the park boundary. You may want to
contact Steve Hatfield on that.
Carnagey: Just to clarify condition number three. The developer had agreed to plant
50 mitigation trees on site. As of yesterday, we talked and he opted to pay
into the tree fund for those mitigation trees rather than plant on site, which
is an option that they do have by ordinance. Staff has agreed to that
condition so it would just be a payment into the tree fund in the amount of
$13,750.
Clark: I thought we dropped condition number three.
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Shackelford: We did, he is just explaining it.
Clark: Paying into the tree fund would be a condition wouldn't it?
Camagey: It's paid. They paid yesterday.
Anthes: Are there any other comments? There is no public here so we will bring it
back to the Commissioners.
Clark: I noticed in the approval of Phase I connectivity and street stub out was an
issue. Has that been satisfied with this Phase of the development as well?
Morgan: As I recall the discussion in the minutes for that condition of approval
regarding connectivity is that they were adequately satisfied with the
connectivity that was proposed in these separate phases.
Anthes: I have a question about item 17. They do note on the plat here that there is
a 25' pedestrian access. Is this because we are asking for them to clearly
state that that is a parkland dedication?
Morgan: It is identified as a pedestrian access on the plat. If that area is within the
parkland dedication I would like clarification on the plat.
Barnes: The property line that is the 30.66 you can tell if you see the 25.94' that is
the actual length that was dedicated as parkland.
Warrick: Because it is so small in that corner it is just a little confusing and we were
hoping to get just a little more clarification in the note so that it is very
clear that that is parkland.
Clark: Instead of planting trees you paid into the fund for trees?
Barnes: Yes.
Clark: I know it is legal but I hate it.
Anthes: Engineering, are you completely satisfied with the fact that these drainage
structures are going to adequately handle everything and not harm
Hamestring Creek in any way?
Rozelle: Based on the plans that they have submitted it would greatly reduce the
possibility of erosion downstream of the pipes compared to what was
designed before. Really when you get out there and see in the field what
the conditions are like you can see that what looks good on papers didn't
really turn out in the field.
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Barnes: I didn't think it looked good on paper myself. What we have done is
we've put junction boxes in further down the slope and then you had a
pipe that was at a slope of like 5% coming into the creek which is going to
have a great velocity coming out. We have changed that to I think it is
either .5 or .7. You are going from a 5% slope to a .5% slope and what
happens is the velocity is reduced as it comes down the box.
Rozelle: It basically takes the energy out of the water and reduces it and it comes
out into the creek at a lot lower velocity than what we would've had
before.
Barnes: I think we are actually under six feet per second which is actually good.
We've got a rock base down there which is actually under six feet per
second is good for a side channel also.
Rozelle: It has minimized the impact. When you have an outfall on a creek it is
always an impact anywhere. I think that they have minimized it to the
extent that you can.
Clark: Have you talked to any of the property owners downstream from you?
I'm reading ahead and in the approval for Plat I that was a major concern.
Barnes: We actually submitted to engineering a letter from the adjacent property
owner to the west saying that everything looked ok.
Clark: I'm just looking ahead. If there was a concern about Phase I drainage,
etc., etc., etc.
Barnes: It was actually for all of the Phases. There is actually a letter in the file
that we got with Mr. Casey about.
Shackelford: That infrastructure for I, II and III, how long has it been in place?
Barnes: Eight or nine months.
Anthes: Dawn, could you tell us on the Final Plat approval if we are still concerned
about things like the drainage is there any of our review that the
Subdivision or the Planning Commission has about that that has been
installed?
Warrick: If the Subdivision Committee feels that there are issues that are
outstanding that cannot be addressed by staff prior to filing of the plat then
it would be appropriate either to table this or to forward it on to the full
Planning Commission. I'm not sure that anything is going to happen in
the next 9 to 11 days that would change the conditions. We are basically
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waiting for some additional improvements and some plat modifications
that need to be installed and reviewed to ensure that all the various
conditions that staff feels are appropriate have been met. That is kind of
where we are at this point . the infrastructure, for the most part, has been
installed. Obviously, there are a few improvements and modifications to
the drainage system and e are kind of at the point that it is a punch list of
materials and items that need to be finished and I'm not sure that waiting
would really change any of those conditions.
Anthes: Thank you. Is there any other discussion?
Shackelford: I concur with what she is saying. I'm not an engineer and don't attempt to
be an engineer but we do have staff comments and city engineers who are
in agreement with this as it is proposed. Based on those comments and
their expertise I'm comfortable with it as it is drawn.
Clark: I will concur because I'm not an engineer and we are guessing that what
you have done is going to be sufficient and I hope it is. I'm also looking
ahead to the Planning Commission.
Anthes: We can approve it here, that is the question.
Clark: I'm seeing the potential of a lot of property owners downstream coming in
and wanting to hear about the drainage. I looked back in the minutes the
first time and there was a lot of comment. I'm going on faith and
confidence in city staff and I've got it.
Shackelford: We've had infrastructure in place for eight months. Dawn, to your
knowledge have there been any complaints from downstream about the
engineering that has happened prior to this?
Warrick: I'm going to ask Mike that.
Rozelle: I honestly have not heard of any.
Barnes: I will actually go a little further in saying that since Phase I the property to
the west across Sunshine Road is being developed as a subdivision. They
are actually having to do improvements to their ditches also.
Warrick: We saw that. Sunshine Road is the city limits in this location. The
property to the west is the Nottenkamper property that we saw as a
Preliminary Plat for Amber Jane Estates. That was approved by this
Planning Commission and the County Planning Board within the last three
or four months. They are looking at doing similar type improvements.
We did not have quite the jurisdiction over everything that they are doing
but I can tell you that with this particular project they are substantially
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complete on their infrastructure. There are, obviously, some details that
need to be worked out. If there is an issue that staff is not able to resolve
in working with the applicant this will be back. We are not going to just
sign off on a plat just because you've said it is ok. There are conditions on
it and if any of those conditions are not met to the satisfaction of the city
we will be back.
Clark: When we take conditions off how many are we left with?
Shackelford: 22. Based on Dawn's comments and the fact that we do have
professionals giving us direction on this at the city level, I am going to
make a motion that we approve FPL 04-1077 with the omission of
condition of approval number 3 and 12, leaving us 18 conditions of
approval plus four standard conditions for a total of 22 conditions of
approval.
Clark: Second.
Anthes: I will concur. Thank you very much. Hearing no announcements, we are
adjourned.