HomeMy WebLinkAbout2004-04-15 - MinutesMINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE
SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE
A regular meeting of the Subdivision Committee was held on April 15, 2004 at 8:30 a.m.
in room 219 of the City Administration Building, 113 W. Mountain, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
ACTION TAKEN
LSP 04-15.00 & LSP 04-21.00: (Dickerson, pp 396) Approved
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LSP 04-16.00: (Oxford/Drake, pp 204) Approved
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FPL 04-07.00: (Lot 17 CMN Phase II, pp 173/174) Approved
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PPL 04-06.00: (Amber Jane Estates, pp 359) Forwarded
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MEMBERS PRESENT MEMBERS ABSENT
Sean Trumbo
Alan Ostner
Jill Anthes
STAFF PRESENT STAFF ABSENT
Dawn Warrick Craig Camagey
Suzanne Morgan Jeremy Pate
Matt Casey
Renee Thomas
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LSP 04-15.00 & LSP 04-21.00: Lot Splits (Dickerson, pp 396) were submitted by
Carole Jackson on behalf of Hazel M. Dickerson for property located at 1272 N. Double
Springs Road. The property is in the Planning Area and contains approximately 20.0
acres. The request is to divide the subject property into 3 tracts of 5.0, 10.0 and 5.0 acres
respectively.
Ostner: Good morning, welcome to the April 15, 2004 meeting of the Subdivision
Committee meeting of your Fayetteville Planning Commission. We have
four items on the agenda today. The first item is LSP 04-15.00 for
Dickerson.
Warrick: This is actually two lot splits of a parent tract of 20 acres. The splits will
create three tracts of land, 5 acres, 10 acres and 5 acres respectively. The
property is located at 1272 N. Double Springs Road. It is in the Planning
Area just outside the city limits. There is a 6" waterline existing on
Double Springs Road to provide water to the tracts. Sewer is not available
as the property is outside of the city limits and they will be able to utilize
septic systems. The size of the tracts are the size that they do not require
approvals prior to the splits being filed. Property adjacent this RSF-4, R -A
and property to the south and surrounding property is located in the county
and utilized primarily for single family developments. Right of way is
being dedicated to total 45' from centerline along Double Springs Road. In
this location that is classified as a minor arterial, which the 45' meets our
Master Street Plan requirements. Staff is recommending approval of these
two lot splits with two conditions stated. One is referencing the right of
way dedication. The second requiring that County approval is granted
prior to filing the split. The third condition is standard. That's all I have,
we are recommending approval at this level.
Ostner: Great. Is the applicant here? Go ahead and introduce yourself and tell us
about your project.
Jackson: I'm Carole Jackson. This property belongs to my mother. My father is
deceased and my mother just wants to split it out between the children.
That's what this proposal is.
Ostner: Is there anyone in the audience who would like to comment on this item?
Seeing none, I will close it to the public and move it back to the
Committee. Are there any comments or questions?
Anthes: The geometry of these lots are very long and thin. Do we have any kind
of regulation about that and will further splits be allowed on this property?
Warrick: Each of these tracts does result in a very long, narrow piece of property.
There could be future splits on them. We would expect that future splits
would require infrastructure development so that it would have more of a
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residential block type condition. Each of these tracts does meet the
minimum requirements for a lot if it were in the city in the R -A district,
which is a minimum of two acres. The one on the north wouldn't have the
200' of frontage but the other two would have adequate frontage to meet
that requirement for a tract in the R -A district. They would all easily meet
the minimum requirements for a RSF-4 district, which is what the property
would likely be zoned if it were brought into the city limits and zoned for
Residential Single Family usage, that is 70' of frontage, 8,000 sq.ft. of
land area. Each of these is a likely candidate for that zoning should it be
brought into the city limits. In the future if there were further
development on this property we would look for some type of street
development so there could be a reasonable splitting of additional lots in
the future.
Ostner: The only existing buildings are these right here?
Jackson: Yes, there is absolutely nothing else.
Anthes: I would just like to ask you if there was some reason that these long linear
lots were created. Do you have any future plans for these because they
aren't three equal parcels or anything. I just wondered.
Jackson: My mother is 81 and this is what she wanted done. This part back here
will probably never be built. There are two gullies that go. There is a
galley that starts here and goes this way and there is a gulley that comes
all the way back here so this part is nothing but gullies and woods. That is
just how she wanted to split it. We just say whatever she wants.
Anthes: It does meet our regulations?
Warrick: It does meet the requirements for city and county lot creations.
Jackson: You couldn't have really done it in four like this because of the way the
land is back here. It is not really feasible, I think that is probably why she
chose to do it that way.
Tr umbo: The road access does come up to Double Springs.
Jackson: This is just a driveway to a private house and there is nothing back here
and nothing back here.
MOTION:
Anthes: I will move for approval of LSP 04-15.00 and LSP 04-21.00.
Tr umbo: Second.
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Ostner: I will concur. Thank you.
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LSP 04-16.00: Lot Split (Oxford/Drake, pp 204) was submitted by Audrey Drake for
property located at 3531 Wagner Road. The property is in the Planning Area and
contains approximately 4.64 acres. The request is to split the lot into two tracts of 0.75
and 3.89 acres respectively.
Ostner: Next on our agenda is LSP 04-16.00 for Oxford/Drake.
Morgan: The property is located at 3530 Wagner Road. It is in the Planning Area
and surrounded by the Planning Area and contains approximately 4.64
acres. The request is to split this property into two tracts of 0.75 acres and
3.89 acres. Washington County records do indicate two parcel numbers
for this tract. This is the first split for this parcel. 60' of right of way was
dedicated along Wagner Road for the subject property. Therefore, no
right of way is required to be dedicated at this time. Staff is
recommending approval of LSP 04-16.00 at this level with two conditions
to include approval by Washington County shall be obtained prior to filing
the lot split. The second is a standard condition of approval.
Ostner: Are there any other staff comments? Is the applicant here? Would you
please come up?
Oxford: I'm Janet Oxford.
Oxford, M: I'm Michael Oxford. We are dividing off a chunk of the acreage to build a
house for our daughter and bring her back home.
Oxford, J: This property originally is owned by my mother, my father is deceased.
Ostner: Everything is built?
Oxford, M.: Yes. Being in the county we didn't realize there were different
regulations.
Oxford, J: United Built Homes built the house and we thought this was done.
Somehow they got a mortgage on that 3/4 acre, I don't know how.
Oxford, M: That set the project back by about three months and resurveying it twice.
We were not really mislead by United Built but they generally build away
from the cities out in the middle of nowhere so they don't normally run
into these things.
MOTION:
Anthes: I will move for approval of LSP 04-16.00.
Tr umbo: Second.
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Ostner: I will concur.
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FPL 04-07.00: Final Plat (Lot 17 CMN Phase II, pp 173/174) was submitted by James
Koch of CEI Engineering Associates on behalf of Nanchar, Inc. and MSB Properties,
LLC for property located at Lot 17 of Steele Crossing. The property is zoned C-2,
Thoroughfare Commercial, and contains approximately 18.25 acres. The request is to
approve the final plat of this development.
Ostner: The next item on agenda is PPL 04-06.00 for Amber Jane Estates.
Warrick: This is a Preliminary Plat for the creation of a residential subdivision on
27.80 acres located in the Fayetteville Planning Area. The proposal is for
28 single family lots which range in size from .57 acres to 2.58 acres. The
western portion of the property does include some floodway and
floodplain as well as steep slopes which create the need for the larger
sized lots. This property is located west of the Fairfield Subdivision on
Sunshine Road. It is adjacent to the Fayetteville city limits. The
developer plans to build this subdivision in two phases with the second
phase to incorporate lots 23 through 27. There is right of way being
dedicated for Sunshine Road, which is classified a principal arterial
requiring 55' of right of way from centerline. Also, Jess Anderson Road
has a requirement f 35' of right of way. With regard to connectivity, the
applicant does propose to stub a street connection south to provide for
future development of vacant property. The developer will be improving
Jess Anderson Road with Phase II of this subdivision. As I mentioned,
there is right of way being required for adjacent Master Street Plan streets.
Staff is recommending forwarding this Preliminary Plat request to the full
Planning Commission with several conditions of approval. There are
thirteen stated. Some of the items that the Planning Commission will need
to address are first that we will need to see a formal Lot Split to create the
parcels that the subdivision is being created on and would like to process
that prior to construction plans being accepted for the subdivision. Second,
Planning Commission determination of street improvements. Staff does
recommend that Sunshine Road and Jess Anderson Road be improved to a
minimum of 14' in width with curb, gutter and 6' sidewalks. That is
basically the half of the street that adjoins the development. Jess
Anderson Road should be improved to meet Washington County standards
on the north side and Jess Anderson Road improvements are to occur with
the development of Phase II. Item three, all street improvements for the
interior streets within the subdivision shall meet City of Fayetteville
minimum street standards including 6' sidewalks located at the right of
way line along Jess Anderson Road and Sunshine Road. 4' sidewalks
constructed at the right of way line on both sides of all interior streets. We
mentioned the dedication of rights of way for Sunshine and Jess Anderson.
There will be an 8" water line extension along Jess Anderson to serve lots
24 through 27. We also would like to address access to lots 23 through 25
stating that those should be through a common drive with a permanent
access easement between lots 24 and 25 prohibiting all other access to
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those lots. What we are trying to do, of course, is to cut down on the
number of curb cuts on the arterial street. Lots within the subdivision
shall not be allowed direct access to Sunshine Road. Again, this is for the
same reason. All minimum floor elevations should be at least 2' above the
water surface elevation and Washington County Planning approval is
required. All other conditions are standard conditions of approval.
Ostner: Thank you. Are there any other staff comments?
Casey: No Sir, the conditions of approval have covered all of my concerns.
Thank you.
Ostner: Thank you. Could you introduce yourself and tell us about your project?
Jorgensen, J: Sure, my name is Justin Jorgensen with Jorgensen & Associates. The
project is located south of Jess Anderson Road and west of Sunshine
Road. We are developing 27 lots with a minimum of .5 acres to 2.5 acres,
all using septic systems and water will be from the City of Fayetteville.
Ostner: Do you have an issue with any of these conditions?
Jorgensen: I agree with all of them.
Ostner: Before we get into discussion I will open it up to the public. Is there
anyone from the public who wants to comment on this issue? Seeing
none, I will close it to the public and bring it back to the Committee. The
first item I wanted to just mention I guess, I'm sure this is a typo on
condition two. Jess Anderson Road to be 14' in width, I'm sure they
aren't going to build 14'.
Warrick: Their improvement would be to ensure that there is a 14' section form the
centerline. We can modify that condition when it goes forward to the
Planning Commission to make it a little more clear.
Ostner: They are only building half of it is what I'm trying to say.
Ostner: Yes.
Trumbo: Where does this road end up?
Jorgensen, J: This comes out on Wedington.
Warrick: It becomes 51" Street a little bit south of this and it basically connects Mt.
Comfort and Wedington, it winds around a little bit.
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Anthes: It seems to me that we are loading the majority of the capacity onto this
road during Phase I and yet street improvements wouldn't be required
until Phase II.
Warrick: The improvements to Jess Anderson would be with Phase II, that is the
road to the north. Phase II is lots 23 through 27.
Anthes: Ok, I got the roads confused. Sunshine Road would be with Phase I?
Warrick: Yes, that would be required with Phase I.
Trumbo: What size homes? Are you planning on selling lots or building homes as
well?
Jorgensen, J: Selling them, I believe they will be 3,000 sq.ft. homes.
Anthes: For connectivity to the south, what is the length of this road?
Ostner: Do you know the owners to the south or are there any plans for
development?
Jorgensen, J: Not that we are aware of.
Warrick: It is about 1,330 feet.
Anthes: What is our longest allowed?
Casey: We don't have standards for that. We have lengths for cul-de-sacs but this
is planned to be extended in the future.
Anthes: A cul-de-sac is 500'?
Warrick: Or 1,000 in hilly topography. We do allow for longer dead end streets or
cul-de-sacs when the topography is determined to be "hilly". In this
location I think that would probably qualify. We have requested, and they
are providing a temporary turn around until that street continues. That
will allow for service vehicles and anyone else needing to access these
southern lots to be able to turn around on the streets to exit should they
need to do that, which they will because there is nowhere else to go.
Anthes: In the city limits what's the maximum length? We just had this the other
night.
Warrick: A residential block length is 1,400 feet.
Ostner: A residential block length is measured from the nearest intersection.
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Warrick: Generally yes, because the other block would be at that point to the other
direction. We are going to be real close to that, it may still exceed it
slightly if you measure from that cul-de-sac. Those particular regulations
we don't have specifics because it is in the planning area
Casey: Since this is next to the city limits we are also extending our minimum
street standards and water requirements. Normally in the Planning Area
we will look at water only and then the lot configuration but since this is
next to the city limits we are also extending our street requirements as well
for the street construction itself.
Warrick: We do have a statement for the Planning area for dead end streets, and it is
500'. Since this does have an extension to the south it would be a
temporary but it does exceed that.
Ostner: Would that require a waiver?
Warrick: Let me look at that a little bit more. We will phrase it properly in the
condition as we bring it to the full Planning Commission. I think that for
this particular location it is important to look at how we would be able to,
if we did require, a connection, if it would be feasible and reasonable, with
this layout or this particular topography that we are dealing with. We will
ensure the proper terminology on that condition. It may require a waiver
on the length.
Anthes: My only comment on that would be that there would be a different way
out if Phases I and II were reconfigured because you could go out on Jess
Anderson Road. With the applicant stating that they didn't know of any
plans in the near future to develop to the south then I am concerned about
that street length.
Ostner: Is this street built?
Jorgensen, J: I believe it is in the process. Fairfield Subdivision to there to the east and
that is in the process of being built.
MOTION:
Anthes: With staff s reworking of the verbiage on the streets I would move that we
forward PPL 04-06.00 to the full Planning Commission.
Tr umbo: Second.
Ostner: I will concur.
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PPL 04-06.00: Preliminary Plat (Amber Jane Estates, pp 359) was submitted by
Jorgensen & Associates on behalf of PBS of Fayetteville for property located at the SW
comer of Sunshine Road and Jess Anderson Road. The property is in the Planning Area
and contains approximately 27.78 acres. The request is to allow for the development of a
residential subdivision with 28 single family lots.
Ostner: Our last item is FPL 04-07.00 for Lot 17 of CMN. Can we have the staff
report please?
Warrick: Lot 17 of CMN, also called Steele Crossing contains approximately 18.25
acres. This is a request to approve the Final Plat. The subdivision
consists of five lots on the original Lot 17 and excludes lots 17a and 17b
which were already approved through lot splits. Those projects are of
course, the constructed Olive Garden Restaurant and the approved
Marriott Courtyard. Lot 17C was previously approved through a lot split
but also for the Smokey Bones restaurant. 17D was also approved for the
Red Robin restaurant. The remaining lots are vacant and have not brought
development proposals through. Van Asche Drive, a collector street, was
extended into lot 17 to serve the lots created with this Preliminary Plat. A
future extension of Van Asche Drive to connect eastward to Shiloh Drive
was removed from the Master Street Plan. Therefore, all traffic from the
approved and additional developments created by the subdivision will be
traveling through the intersection of Mall Avenue and Van Asche Drive.
Staff is recommending the developer of Lot 17 be assessed for a traffic
signal at this intersection based on projected traffic numbers from a
supplemental traffic study that we requested at the time of Preliminary
Plat for Lot 17. I will talk a little bit more about that as we get to the
conditions. With regard to surrounding land uses, property in this area is
zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial and R -O, Residential Office.
Surrounding land uses include the Olive Garden, the approved Marriott
Courtyard hotel, which has not been constructed. Vacant lots, West Mud
Creek, a trail and dedicated tree preservation area to the north and Hwy.
71B to the east. Water has been extended with 8" water lines, sewer also
with 8" lines to serve these lots. Tree preservation, there was an existing
20.4% existing canopy. The requirement is 15% and the applicant has
preserved 16.2%, therefore, no mitigation is required for this project.
Right of way being dedicated is for Van Asche Drive which requires 70'
and is a collector street. Van Asche Drive again, was approved and
constructed with a cul-de-sac configuration as shown on your plan for
access to this development, a 28' street with 6' sidewalks on both sides is
the configuration. Staff is recommending approval of this Final Plat at
this level with 12 stated conditions. Condition one, as I mentioned, staff is
asking the Planning Commission to determine an assessment for a future
traffic signal at the intersection of Mall Avenue and Van Asche Drive.
Staff recommends that the developer be assessed $109,500 for the future
installation of said signal based on projected traffic volume generated by
the subdivision and subsequent development of Lot 17. There is a memo
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attached. 2) The developer shall coordinate with the Transportation
Division to re -stripe Van Asche Drive on the west side of Mall Avenue, to
allow for through traffic onto the new Van Asche Drive extension. Right
now it is striped with arrows in either direction because there was not an
option for a through street passage. 3)The associated easement vacation
between lots 17E and 17F shall be approved by City Council prior to filing
of the Final Plat. Should the vacation be approved, the plat shall reference
the appropriate ordinance number. That item is scheduled to go before the
City Council on Tuesday. 4) Cross access between each lot shall be
required with future development. We just wanted to emphasize that is
the criteria for Commercial Design Standards. We also felt that that was
important to emphasize on this particular subdivision. 5) No additional
curb cuts onto Van Asche Drive other than those indicated on the plat
within a shared access easement shall be allowed without Planning
Commission approval. For those lots on the cul-de-sac, one curb cut per
lot shall be allowed. 6) Van Asche Drive shall be dedicated as a public
street at the time of Final Plat recordation. 7) Those lots fronting the
West Mud Creek trail shall provide visual and physical pedestrian
connections at the time of development. 8) The following comments
from Technical Plat Review shall be addressed and the Final Plat
resubmitted to Planning for review prior to signatures being applied:
Include a note addressing the maintenance responsibility for the detention
pond.; Add a note stating that all retaining walls must be set back a
minimum of 2 feet from the ROW.; Add the total linear feet of sidewalks
and streets in a chart on the plat.; Show the streets, sidewalks, and outline
of the detention pond on the plat. All other conditions of approval as
stated, are standard conditions.
Ostner: Thank you. Do we have any other staff comments?
Casey: I will just touch on the assessment. You've got the memo in the packet.
The volumes that were listed here for each of the developments approved
on the lot 17 subdivision were taken directly from the traffic study that
was submitted by the applicant with the exception of Lot 17F and G.
They were omitted from that study but I estimated those based on what
was shown for the other lots. We just used a comparable number. The
total is 5,475 vehicles per day from that subdivision. We took that number
and divided it by the total collector street design service volume to get a
percentage of the applicant's portion of the signal cost. The signal cost is
estimated at $120,000, their volume is 91% of that to equal $109,500. We
need to have the as-builts, construction costs, and maintenance bonds in
place before we can sign off on the Final Plat.
Ostner: Would the applicant introduce himself and tell us about the project?
Koch: Yes, my name is James Koch with CEI Engineering representing the Lot
17 subdivision for Steele Crossing, what was formerly known as the CMN
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Subdivision. This project is, of course, by necessity. The original tract
size for lot 17 was about 22 acres. In order to develop this with the
commercial development that was taking place a subdivision was required
and the lot configurations that you see are what we anticipate being
developed, especially these areas right here. As you are aware of, the Red
Robin is 17B and Stookey Bones has started construction on 17C. These
remaining tracts will develop soon. This Marriott Courtyard has been
permitted but that has been expired, I'm not sure what's going on with
that, maybe they have some financial problems or something. Other than
that, we expect the lot to develop pretty much as you see it right here. Of
course the trail is being constructed at this time. This is just a really nice
area for commercial development. The trail is going to provide a
pedestrian access across the expressway and it is going to meander around
that creek. There are some really nice old trees that are preserved down
here and we look forward to getting this thing built so we can start eating
and drinking up there. The restaurants that are going in are something that
to my knowledge that are not in the state of Arkansas. Smokey Bones is
not. Red Robin is not and so we are just really fortunate to have that. Of
course, right across the way you've got Fuddruckers and Logan's
Roadhouse, two more that aren't in the state of Arkansas right now.
Fayetteville has really achieved some unique development out here.
Ostner: At this point I will open I up to the public for comment. Seeing no public,
I will close it to the public and I will bring it back to the committee for
questions, comments or motions.
Anthes: I have a question about condition number five talking about the curb cuts
not being allowed other than those shown on the plat with shared access
easements, but then it also has another statement that says those lots on the
cul-de-sac one curb cut should be allowed. I see these shared access
easements indicated on the lots on the cul-de-sac so I'm confused if that is
additional or what are we talking about?
Koch: A good question. I guess one would be a half. We pretty much have a
half a curb cut on each property line.
Warrick: The expectation is that there could be one unique curb cut for each
development in the cul-de-sac and that they would share access with their
neighbor.
Koch: The one lot that is not going to receive the benefit of all these others is
going to be G. If this tract were to develop without any independent
access not shared with anyone it would have to go in somewhere along
this stretch. It certainly could not share it here because we have our
detention pond in this area. I think that is what is driving the comments
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from engineering to show it on the plat. They may need an additional curb
cut.
Anthes: I would like to reword that condition instead of for those lots on the cul-
de-sac just for lot 17G one additional curb cut might be allowed.
Warrick: Keep the first statement and then the second would be for Lot 17G one
additional curb cut could be considered.
Anthes: Right because the other ones have clear access with the shared easements
that are marked on the plat but I could see that depending on how 17G
builds out, it might be reasonable for that one lot to look at a different
access.
Warrick: For lot 17G one additional curb cut shall be considered at the time of the
Planning Commission review.
Anthes: Perfect.
Koch: When will the $109,000 need to be put up or given to the city?
Warrick: Prior to filing the Final Plat.
Koch: Do we have any options as to how you receive those monies or how you
secure that amount?
Warrick: We can look into that. We have done it in a few different ways in the past
so let's discuss that and we will try to provide you some options.
Koch: I will work with you guys on that or get the attorney for our client.
MOTION:
Anthes: I will move for approval of FPL 04-07.00 subject to the 12 conditions of
approval with the $109,500 assessment and the rewording of condition
five.
Trumbo: Second.
Ostner: Before I concur I just wanted to ask for general interest I suppose, on
number seven, provide a visual and physical pedestrian connection at the
time of development, what does that mean?
Koch: Certainly I think you would need to be able to see the trail so that you
would know it was there if you were at a restaurant or something, you'd
know that the trail was there. If there is a way for us to provide
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connection or access from the lots that border the trail I think that whoever
the prospective developer is, that's certainly easily done. As far as being
able to do that with the developments along the Fulbright Expressway, we
added a sidewalk so they could have really good access to the trail along
Mall Avenue and if you cross Mall Avenue you can go across the bridge
and get on the trail as well.
Warrick: Staff's expectation is that developments, especially along 17F and G,
because they immediately access and adjoin the trail corridor, will be able
to provide either a combined pedestrian access with a sidewalk, or some
type of trail leading to the city's trail so that people walking along that
trail corridor could come into this commercial development. We also
encourage a visual connection because we want people, like James said, to
be able to see that amenity. We expect that should additional restaurants
develop back here, maybe they put their patio seating in an area that is
conducive with that kind of activity. People can walk off the trail and
access the development and enjoy the amenities of that trail and tree
preservation while they are dining.
Koch: It also helps people walking on the trail see the restaurants.
Warrick: We don't want to wall it off. We want it to be part of this commercial
subdivision.
Koch: With the Marriott approval, that was one of the conditions that they have a
trail, whenever that development gets under construction they will have to
install an independent connection to the trail. I would expect that same
condition to apply to anyone bordering a trait throughout the City of
Fayetteville.
Ostner: I would too. It seems like a good note. There is nothing more infuriating
than being able to see something open to the public and you can't get
there.
Warrick: That trail is actually under construction right now and will be opened
sometime this summer
Ostner: Are there any other comments? I will concur.
Meeting adjourned: 9:12 a.m.