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PLANNING COMMISSION
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held on Monday, April 12, 2004 at
5:30 p.m. in room 219 of the City Administration Building, 113 W. Mountain,
Fayetteville, Arkansas.
ITEMS CONSIDERED
ACTION TAKEN
VAC 04-08.00: (Lot 17 CMN II, pp 173/174)
Forwarded to City Council
Consent
VAC 04-04.00: (Clary/Harps, pp 401) Forwarded to City Council
Consent
VAC 04-05.00: (Clary/Harps, pp 401) Forwarded to City Council
Consent
VAC 04-07.00: (Woodall/Douglas Street, pp 444) Forwarded to City Council
Consent
LSD 04-11.00: (Hank's Furniture, pp 135) Approved
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LSD 04-10.00: (Lindsey Office Building, pp 174) Approved
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PPL 04-05.00: (Deerpath Estates Ph. 2, pp 488) Approved
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PPL 04-01.00: (Bridgeport Phase 7 & 8, pp 360) Approved
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ANX 0405.00: (Harper/Brandon, pp 61) Forwarded to City Council
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RZN 04-04.00:(Harper/Brandon, pp 61) Forwarded to City Council
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RZN 04-06.00:(The Crowne, pp 559) Forwarded to City Council
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I-PZD 04-05.00:(Wal-Mart Optical Lab/Hwy 62W, pp 559) Forwarded to City Council
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ADM 04-11.00: UDC Ch. 172:
Parking and Loading (Outdoor patios/dining) Forwarded to City Council
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Planning Commission
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MEMBERS PRESENT
James Graves
Alan Ostner
Sean Trumbo
Loren Shackelford
Jill Anthes
Candy Clark
Christian Vaught
Nancy Allen
Christine Myres
STAFF PRESENT
Tim Conklin
Dawn Warrick
Jeremy Pate
Matt Casey
Suzanne Morgan
Renee Thomas
Kit Williams
MEMBERS ABSENT
STAFF ABSENT
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Approval of the Minutes of the March 22, 2004 meeting.
VAC 04-08.00: Vacation (Lot 17 CMN II, pp 173/174) was submitted by James Koch of CEI
Engineering on behalf of Nanchar Inc. and MSB Properties, LLC for property located in Lot 17
of CMN 11 Business Park. The property is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial. The request is
to vacate a portion of a utility easement due to a replat of the lot. Planner: Jeremy Pate
VAC 04-04.00: Vacation (Clary/Harps, pp 401) was submitted by Brian Moore of Engineering
Services, Inc. on behalf of Clary Development for property located east of Colorado Drive and
north of Wedington Drive. The property is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial, and contains
approximately 4.61 acres. The request is to vacate a 35' drainage easement. Planner: Suzanne
Morgan
VAC 04-05.00: Vacation (Clary/Harps, pp 401) was submitted by Brian Moore of Engineering
Services, Inc. on behalf of Clary Development for property located east of Colorado Drive and
north of Wedington Drive. The property is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial, and contains
approximately 4.61 acres. The request is to vacate a portion of a 20' utility easement. Planner:
Suzanne Morgan
VAC 04-07.00: Vacation (Woodall/Douglas Street, pp 444) was submitted by Josef Woodall
of New Millennium Construction & Development on behalf of David Kyle and Cynthia Nielsen
of C.Y.N. LLC for property located between Lots 3, 4, 5, and 14 of the Archias-Bushnell
Addition of the City of Fayetteville. Planner: Jeremy Pate
Ostner: Good evening, welcome to the April 12, 2004 meeting of your Fayetteville
Planning Commission. Renee, can you call the roll please?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call there were seven Commissioners present
with Commissioner Vaught being absent and Commissioner Graves
arriving at 5:38 p.m.
Ostner: Before I get to the consent agenda I would like to mention that item twelve
has been tabled by the applicant. That item was a RZN 04-05.00 for
Rasberry, Jordan & Benton. That parcel is at 1841 N. Leverett Avenue.
Again, that item has been tabled and will come to an agenda later on. The
first item on the agenda is the consent agenda including the approval of
the minutes from the March 22"d meeting. Also, VAC 04-08.00, a
Vacation for Lot 17 in CMN II. VAC 04-04.00, a Vacation for Clary and
Harps. VAC 04-05.00, also for Clary and Harps. The fourth item on the
consent agenda is VAC 04-07.00 for Woodall and Douglas Street. If
anyone would like to pull these items off of the consent agenda either in
the audience or on the Commission the time is now. Otherwise, we will
have a motion for approval.
MOTION:
Allen: I move for approval of the consent agenda and the minutes of the last
meeting.
Shackelford: I will second.
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Ostner: Renee, will you call the roll please?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to approve the consent agenda
was approved by a vote of 7-0-0.
Thomas: The motion carries seven to zero.
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LSD 04-11.00: Large Scale Development (Hank's Furniture, pp 135) was submitted by
Ron Homeyer of Civil Engineering, Inc. on behalf of Hank's Furniture for property located
at Lot 3B of Spring Park Place, Phase I (Joyce Blvd just east of Mall Avenue.) The property
is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial, and contains approximately 2.04 acres. The
request is to allow the development of a 40,850 s.f. retail store with 58 parking spaces
proposed. Planner: Jeremy Pate
Ostner: Our next item of new business is LSD 04-11.00 for Hanks Furniture.
Pate: This Large Scale Development was submitted for Hanks Furniture. It is
located at Spring Park Place Phase I, which is between McDonald's and
the United Bank on Joyce Blvd. The property is currently zoned C-2,
Thoroughfare Commercial and contains approximately 2.04 acres. The
request is to allow the development of a 40,850 sq.11. retail store with 58
parking spaces. Surrounding land use is all C-2, Thoroughfare
Commercial. There will be 6' sidewalks located at the right of way line
for street improvements proposed. There are no trees on site so that
requirement is waived by the Landscape Administrator. Through the
meetings of submittal the primary discussion that we've had with the
applicant and at the Subdivision Committee have been meeting
Commercial Design Standards. Staff is recommending approval of LSD
04-11.00 with seven conditions. The first of which is the Planning
Commission determination of Commercial Design Standards. Based on
discussions with the Subdivision Committee, recommendations for better
articulation of wall surfaces, the addition of some awnings. I believe the
applicant and architect have revised drawings to show you tonight. Staff
is recommending approval of those drawings. Additionally, staff is in
support of a waiver request. The Hanks Furniture Store is definitely a
boxlike structure. However, it is compatible with many structures and
many developments that are already located in this area and staff is
recommending approval of that. Item two, an assessment in the amount of
$72,207 shall be paid by the developer prior to issuance of building
permits. That is an assessment for street improvements that have already
been completed. If you have any questions feel free to ask.
Ostner: Thank you. Is the applicant present? Please state your name, introduce
yourself, and give us your presentation.
Roberts: Good evening, my name is Steven Roberts I am the construction and
property manager for Hanks Furniture. I have with me this evening Ron
Sloan and we have some new elevations depicting some of the changes
that we discussed with the Subdivision Committee. Based upon their
recommendations and further discussion with staff we have changed the
looks. Ron, if you'd like to address what we've done there.
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Sloan: I'm Ron Sloan with Sloan Architects. Basically, what we have done is
we've added a brick wainscote to the usual Hanks prototype and we have
also articulated the building with the addition of awnings on the side walls
and also projections with pilaster columns on both sidewalls and the front
walls. We are trying again, to get away from the smooth wall side and try
to give us more of an articulation on the sides. These two elevations here
that I've got down here. These perspectives give you a view of the
southwest elevation and the southeast elevation that you can see both
sidewalls and front and we've also extended the canopy out 30' from the
front entrance all the way out to the parking lot. Again, to give you a focal
point and identity to break up that front elevation. Are there any
questions?
Ostner: Thank you. We will maybe have a few in a moment. Is there anyone in
the audience who would like to comment on this item? Seeing none, I will
close it to the public and bring it back to the Commission for discussion.
Allen: We talked a good bit about the Commercial Design Standards at
Subdivision and I see some real positive changes from Subdivision to
today but I did have a couple of questions to ask staff. The buildings that
are in that area that are boxlike weren't they built prior to these design
standards being implemented? Just to follow through with that I just
wanted more clarification as to why you would feel like in this highly
visible area that we would want to waive that boxlike recommendation.
Warrick: On Joyce Street in this general area there is a mixture as far as time goes
of projects that have been processed and approved before and after the
adoption of our Commercial Design Standards ordinance. The Walgreen's
that is under construction at the corner of Shiloh and Joyce of course,
came after. Circuit City came after and was considered compliant with
Commercial Design Standards. The United Bank and the McDonald's
which flank this subject property, were both subject to Commercial
Design Standards. The project to the south and then also the Wal-Mart
and the projects north of Wal-Mart are on Joyce Street were existing prior
to 1996 when this ordinance was adopted. You can see that there is a
mixed bag of timing with projects. Many of them are different. With
regard to this particular structure most retail buildings that you see, in
order to have efficient use of space are somewhat square and boxy. This
particular project the applicant has made an effort to ameliorate that affect
by having a projected entry and by raising some of the parapet to create an
entrance feature and also by articulating pilasters or columns along the
front and sides. The front is further articulated with door and window
openings and the sides have some of the awnings that are also on the front.
We felt like the treatments that the applicant has proposed mitigate the
affect of this structure. We felt like they had made an effort to comply
which was adequate in order to comply with our design standards.
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Anthes: While we are on the discussion of the Commercial Design Standards I'm
looking at the north elevation and wondering why we have a very blank
unarticulated wall surface on the north as opposed to the other facades.
Warrick: Our consideration of the north had a lot to do with the visibility. There is
no public access to the rear of this structure. There is a private drive. The
public access, the closest where you would even see the rear of this
structure is the looped drive around the mall. This structure is set down
into the site and because of the grade of the site the majority of the rear
wall is below the eye line and below the level of Georgetown, which is the
private drive that runs behind the site. The primary emphasis of our
Commercial Design Standards is that portion of the structure which is
visible from a public right of way. Because this portion of the structure is
not visible from a public right of way we felt that it was adequate the way
that it was proposed.
Anthes: My concern was the mall drive. I know that is not a public street but it is
one that is heavily trafficked by the public at large. Everybody that uses
the mall drives that loop a lot. I was having a hard time visualizing how
much would be apparently seen from that road. I would like to know what
other Commissioners thought of that. From out seeing the site I looked
out there and thought I would see the back of this structure and that this
would have a much different character on the north side.
Trumbo: We did discuss that on the tour and to me it looked like the building was
sitting down low enough that it really wouldn't be noticed unless you were
looking for it. I don't think the north side is going to be seen.
Allen: I wonder if the rest of you have access to the drawings that I bad at
Subdivision, would that be helpful for you to see the differences in the
two? I can pass this around for people to see.
Williams: I did want to direct the Planning Commission that when you are
considering this you are considering whether it complies with the
Commercial Design Standards. You are not considering a waiver. I know
it is kind of couched in those terms but you are not going to waive any
kind of requirement. The code states that a square, boxlike structure
should be avoided or minimized. It doesn't say that there cannot be one.
It is the kind of characteristics that the City Council wanted to avoid if
possible. You are not waiving it. Waiver is kind of a term of art and
people think you are going to waive an ordinance or something and you
really can't do that. You are following the ordinances, trying to apply the
Commercial Design Standards and see whether this project, in fact, in
your opinion, does comply with the Commercial Design Standards. That
is what the issue is before you.
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Shackelford: Do we have signed conditions of approval?
Warrick: I don't believe we do.
Shackelford: A question of the applicant. We don't have signed conditions of approval
at this time, are there any of these conditions that you take issue with?
Roberts: No, we have committed to all of those including the fee. We are very
aware of the $72,000 fee and I've made commitments to those in the past
so we are aware of those.
MOTION:
Shackelford: With that, I'm ready to formulate a motion here. I understand, and I
looked at the north elevation as well, I'm in agreement with Mr. Trumbo
as you look at this property I think due to the topography that is going to
be less in view to the public than the other sides. Also, the fact that that is
from a private road and not a public road I think there is an issue there that
differentiates the north elevation from the other elevations. I understand
our conversations about boxlike structures. We've had these
conversations quite a bit. In my opinion that may be somewhat bad
language. We start talking about 41,000 sq.ft. of wholesale or retail space
it is hard to approach that without thinking of a boxlike structure when
you are talking about that kind of square footage on a one story dimension.
My key and the way that I'm looking at this is, as our City Attorney has
said, that those should be minimized and I think this has been minimized
with articulation and the work that they have done really minimizes the
affect of the square boxlike structure. I'm going to go ahead and make a
motion that we approve LSD 04-11.00 with the positive determination of
Commercial Design Standards as proposed in the new elevations
presented tonight subject to all other terms and conditions based on staff's
recommendations.
Ostner: We have a motion by Mr. Shackelford, is there a second?
Tr umbo: Second.
Ostner: Is there additional discussion? I'd like to go ahead and share my view of
this. I do feel it is lacking on the north elevation. However, I don't think
it is visible enough for them to fail the test of unarticulated walls. The
prominent three sides have been dealt with very well and I believe most
buildings are boxes and we are constantly trying to do things to make
them not look like a box. I believe Circuit City is about the purest box in
town. That's their style, that's something they want to do. I'm not sure if
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that came in before or after our design standards but I would be in favor of
this project as stated.
Allen: I will agree. I do continue to wish that when we have our next workshop
that the Commission as a whole discuss this difficult dilemma that we
continue to have about what is boxlike and about what makes a box by any
other name a box. I see that the applicant has made significant efforts to
do the things that were suggested to them with the direction that we gave
them at Subdivision Committee so I will be in favor of the project.
Ostner: Thank you. Is there any other discussion? Renee, would you call the roll
please?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to approve LSD 04-11.00 was
approved by a vote of 7-0-0.
Thomas: The motion carries seven to zero.
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LSD 04-10.00: Large Scale Development (Lindsey Office Building, pp 174) was
submitted by Crafton, Tull & Associates, Inc. on behalf of Lindsey Management
Company for property located on the northeast corner of Joyce Blvd. and Stearns Street.
The property is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial, and contains approximately 5.86
acres. The request is to allow development of an 82,420 s.f. office building with 275
parking spaces proposed. Planner: Jeremy Pate
Ostner: Our next item of business is LSD 04-10.00 for Lindsey Office Building.
Pate: This Large Scale Development site is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare
Commercial. The Planning Commission actually approved a very similar
project back in July, 2001 for a Large Scale Development for this site.
The time frame of one year has passed since that last approval. Therefore,
the developer is required to come back through this approval process to
comply with all current ordinances. That is the process we are going
through at this time. The applicant proposes to construct a structure, a
portion of which is six stories tall, of 82, 420 sq.ft. of office space. It does
front onto Joyce Blvd., and a portion of the site onto Steams Street. The
proposed development includes 275 parking spaces to serve this
development, which is allowable by ordinance. Also, a 10' sidewalk is
being recommended along Joyce Blvd. and street improvements to Stearns
Street. A 6' sidewalk is also an addition to that street. Numerous
retention ponds are proposed on your site plan utilizing water features as
both detention as amenity to the development. It is a waiver request from
one of those ponds for the 100' setback. That is one of the Planning
Commission determinations tonight. There is 14.6% existing tree canopy
and the applicant is not proposing to remove any tree canopy at this time
so there is no mitigation required. As I mentioned, in July, 2001 a very
similar project with similar waivers and conditions came through. Staff is
recommending approval of LSD 04-10.00 with 16 conditions. A couple of
determinations do need to be made tonight. Item one, Planning
Commission determination of Commercial Design Standards. Staff does
find that the proposal meets the criteria for commercial structures in this
case. Item two, Planning Commission determination of the variance
request for the 100' building setback from a water surface. Staff is also in
support of this. It is an office complex that presents a low potential for
danger with the proposed office use. Item three, Planning Commission
determination of street improvements. Staff is recommending that Stearns
Street be improved, as per typical, with a 14' width including curb, gutter
and storm drain and a 6' sidewalk. Additionally, there is a 10' sidewalk to
be located along Joyce Blvd. to eventually match up to the sidewalk that is
being put in there now. Item four, Planning Commission determination of
an assessment for a future traffic signal to be installed at the intersection
of Joyce Blvd. and Vantage Drive, which is an offsite improvement. Staff
recommends that an assessment be made in the amount of $9,120 to be
paid prior to the issuance of a building permit. There is a memo in your
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packets with your staff report detailing the means by which that is
reached, the actual calculations that staff uses to determine those offsite
street improvements.
Ostner: Thank you. Would the applicant come forward please and introduce
yourself and tell us about your project.
Kelso: I'm Jerry Kelso with Crafton, Tull & Associates representing the owner,
Lindsey Management. As you can see, this is a proposed office building.
This plan was presented before some time ago and we are basically
presenting it again in the same location. The fagade may have changed a
little bit there but other than that it is basically the same project. The
architect is here who can answer any questions that you have regarding the
building elevations and I will try to answer any questions that you have
about the site.
Ostner: Thank you Sir. At this point I will open it up to the public. Is there
anyone here who would like to comment about this item? Seeing none, I
will move it back to the Commission for comments.
Allen: At Subdivision again, we talked a little bit about the glass building and
that some reflective glass buildings could be a hazard when driving so I
asked that you could bring the glass material and maybe a little
explanation of how that kind of glass operates.
Fugitt: My name is Kim Fugitt. I'm the architect on the building. The glass is a
reflective glass. Half of the glass is a glass material that you can't see
through. The other vision panels are clear but they do have a reflective
surface on them. The surface has a blue tint to it. The elevation is
heading in that direction. It is not a mirror type finish, silver or gold or
bronze. It is a blue reflective material to hopefully blend with the sky
view. I realize coming from the west that that could be a potential
problem on Joyce but we have tried to use a dark tinted material to reduce
that glare.
Allen: Thank you.
Clark: Are there any other structures in Fayetteville that have similar glass that
we can get a reference to? The reflection issue has bothered me a bit as
well.
Fugitt: Not that I'm aware of, not this particular glass. I haven't researched that
much but I don't know of one that I could point you to. The only
suggestion I can make is take the glass samples outside where you can get
the actual look. I know this is maybe not the appropriate time to do that
but that may give you a better idea of that reflective surface.
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Clark: I'm not sure one panel as opposed to six stories is really going to be a
good comparison.
Myres: Is this in anyway similar to the Staffinark building on Millsap?
Fugitt: No Ma'am. That is actually an aluminum skinned panel on the Staffmark
building.
Anthes: On the conditions of approval I don't really have a problem with the
variance request for the setback from the water surface in the pond area. I
do have a question of staff on item ten. Is that a typo? I'm trying to
reference that with the plan that says the east setbacks will be modified to
correctly reflect a zero foot side setback, is that correct?
Warrick: It is correct. The side setback in a C-2 zoning district when it adjoins
another C-2 zoning district is zero. It is just a note on the plat that needs
to be updated.
Anthes: I was trying to reference the plan, ok, thank you.
Shackelford: Do we have signed conditions on this?
Pate: Yes Sir.
Ostner: Just to get this discussion started, there are other parts of the Commercial
Design Standards that we are applying tonight. What do you all think
other than the reflective glass?
Allen: I would say that it is a cleverly disguised box.
Shackelford: I would add that I think there is a lot of articulation to the building. I think
even more so than had we saw this originally proposed and approved as an
earlier development. I don't remember some of the one story space being
quite as articulated as it is at this point. My personal opinion is I don't
have any trouble with the Commercial Design Standards on this project.
Allen: If there aren't any further comments, since this project has been approved
once, I will move for approval of LSD 04-10.00 subject to the 16
conditions of approval.
Ostner: Thank you. Do we have a second?
Clark: Second.
Ostner: Is there further discussion? Renee?
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Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to approve LSD 04-10.00 was
approved by a vote of 8-0-0.
Thomas: The motion carries eight to zero.
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PPL 04-05.00: Preliminary Plat (Deerpath Estates Ph. 2, pp 488) was submitted by
Project Design Consultants, Inc. on behalf of SCB, LLC for property located east of
Crossover Road and north of Deerpath Drive. The property is zoned RSF-4, Residential
Single-family, 4 units per acre, and contains approximately 9.13 acres. The request is to
approve the development of another phase of this subdivision with 16 single-family lots
proposed. Planner: Suzanne Morgan
Ostner: The next item on our agenda is PPL 04-05.00 for Deerpath Estates. Can
we have the staff report please?
Morgan: The applicant is requesting to create a residential subdivision on 9.13
acres. It is zoned RSF-4 and the proposal is for 16 single family lots. The
lots range in size from .41 to .68 acres. The property is located east of
Crossover Road, north of Deerpath Estates Phase L This is the proposed
Deerpath Estates Phase II. The approved Preliminary Plat for Stone
Mountain subdivision is located to the north and east of this property.
Surrounding land use is single family residential and zoned RSF-4. 50' of
right of way is being dedicated for Red Deer Court and the proposed
extension of Skyview Lane. The applicant is proposing connectivity to the
north and tree preservation existing canopy is 90% with 40.8% proposed
to be preserved. Staff recommends approval of PPL 04-05.00 with the
following nine conditions. Planning Commission determination of a
waiver request for the residential block length greater than 1,400 feet. The
proposed block length is 1,765 feet.
Ostner: Thank you. Is the applicant present?
Scott: My name is Art Scott, I'm with Project Design Consultants here
representing the developer for any questions that you might have.
Ostner: At this point I will open it up to the public. Is there anyone who would
like to make a comment?
Johnson: I'm Angela Johnson, I'm a resident of Deerpath Estates Phase I and I'm
speaking on behalf of the residents of Deerpath Estates. We had a meeting
with the developers on April 5`h in which at least one representative from
each home was present. We are all in agreement with what the developers
are proposing to do. If there is any way tonight that we could do the three
readings tonight that would be great. We would like to see things move
forward in that area. There is only one issue which we have concern
about. We understand that there is a new city proposal for connectivity.
However, as residents of Deerpath it is a very quiet community. We
purchased our homes there because it is quiet and there is not a lot of thru
traffic. We do have children and we are just concerned about traffic
coming in and out of the subdivision. As far as the proposal of the
community itself if there is anyway we can bring that up later that would
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be wonderful. Otherwise, we are all for this subdivision and would like to
see it move forward. Thank you.
Ostner: Is there anyone else who would like to speak on this item? Seeing no one,
I will close it to the public and bring it back to the Commission for
comments. If we could start out by a question for staff, if you could
address the proposal for connectivity and how that is a policy of ours.
Warrick: We have a situation that the existing Phase I of Deerpath Estates is
relatively land locked, it is a single drive that has a small cul-de-sac
connection to it. It is one street of single family homes. It is in an area
where the topography is somewhat steep and I guess you could classify it
as hilly terrain according to Fayetteville standards. It is also in a location
that the northern boundary is only one property away from a future street
connection. The Stone Mountain subdivision that was approved recently
as a Preliminary Plat has a connection to Crossover Road but there is one
intervening property between this Deerpath development and Stone
Mountain. Because we do feel that connectivity between neighborhoods
is important so that people from both of those neighborhoods have more
alternatives for getting in and out as well as for service vehicles. All
different types of deliveries and just services. We feel like it is important
to provide for that future connectivity. It will not happen with the
development of this particular phase of Deerpath but we do expect that in
the future should the property to the north, which currently has on it a
single family home, but it is a large tract, should it be redeveloped or
should it develop in anyway, split or have some sort of action taken on it,
we feel that it would be appropriate for the connection to be made to have
another access to the north. It has a lot to do with the topography. It has
even more to do with the city's policy with regard to encouraging
connectivity between neighborhoods and not creating exclusive enclaves
that only have one way in and out. They can be, of course, very peaceful
quiet streets but they can also be quite problematic with regard to delivery
services.
Ostner: Thank you. Commissioners? I don't hear much discussion. Do I hear any
motions?
Anthes: Staff, will you just review for the record the conditions that necessitate the
765' block length in this project?
Warrick: The Unified Development Code establishes design standards for
residential lots, as well as residential blocks. The recommendation for a
residential block is no longer than 1,400 feet. It gives a recommendation
of between 400 and 1,400 feet in length. That is a design standard. It is a
recommendation under the UDC and we felt that it was important to bring
it to your attention just because this is a very long street, which for right
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now, will be a dead-end. The existing street that is already constructed is
somewhere in the range of 1,000 feet in length and this is going to add an
additional approximately 800 feet to that. We've got a really long street
that has not intervening intersections of any type, no intersecting streets
for other access. We don't see that a lot because 1,400 feet really is quite
a distance and that range between 400 and 1,400 feet is usually
accommodated when you have a subdivision that has some type of
intersecting street. As I mentioned before, this is in an area where it is
quite hilly terrain and the street that will be extended runs a ridge line on
the side of the hill so it is understandable that there is not necessarily a lot
of intersecting grid type streets to this. That is why it is mentioned
because it is part of the residential street and block design standards.
Anthes: Matt, were there any comments from city services about problems with
this?
Casey: None that I'm aware of that have been provided through our Plat Review
process. As long as they have adequate means to turn around when they
get to the end then there should not be a problem.
MOTION:
Shackelford: This project looks to be consistent with the surrounding neighborhood.
You are talking about less than two houses per acre. It seems like the
existing neighbors are in favor of this, the issue being connectivity. That
is something that we do need to hold possible in the future. It is not going
to happen at this point but it is a city standard to have that going forward.
Based on staff's recommendations and findings, I'm going to make a
motion that we approve PPL 04-05.00 with the approval of the waiver
request for a residential block length greater than 1,400, this one being
1,765 feet.
Ostner: We have a motion, do we have a second?
Myres: Second.
Ostner: Is there any further discussion? Before we vote, I would like to commend
the developer for meeting with the neighbors. That is something that we
really promote and it tends to make everything easier. Thank you. Is
there any further discussion? Renee?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to approve PPL 04-05.00 was
approved by a vote of 8-0-0.
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PPL 04-01.00: Preliminary Plat (Bridgeport Phase 7 & 8, pp 360) was submitted by
Geoffrey Bates of Keystone Consultants, Inc. on behalf of Arkansas Oaks for property
located east of Bridgeport Subdivision Phase III and Freedom Place. The property is
zoned RSF-4, Residential Single-family, 4 units per acre, and contains approximately
17.4 acres. The request is to approve the development of Phase 7 & 8 of this subdivision
with 24 single-family lots proposed. Planner: Suzanne Morgan
Ostner: Our next item is PPL 04-01.00 for Bridgeport Phases VII and VIII. Can
we have the staff report please?
Morgan: Yes Sir. This applicant is requesting to create a residential subdivision on
14.7 acres. It is zoned RSF-4 with 24 single family lots proposed. The
northern portion of this property includes an area of floodway within
Hamestring Creek. Also, the property is located south of Mt. Comfort
Road and delineated by Bridgeport Addition Phases I and III to the west.
The applicant proposes to develop this subdivision in two phases, Phases
VII and VIII. Surrounding land use includes area within the Planning area
and that which is in the city zoned RSF-4. Right of way is being
dedicated, 50' for the length of American Drive and New Road. Also,
New Bridge Road is a collector on the Master Street Plan requiring 70' of
right of way, which is being proposed. Connectivity is being proposed to
the south from the intersection of New Road and New Bridge Road to
provide for future developments. In addition, connectivity is being
proposed to the east from American Drive and New Bridge Road.
Existing canopy is 37% and proposed preservation is 27.2%. The
applicant is also proposing a dead end street of 570' in length, which is
currently called on the plat New Road. Staff is recommending approval of
PPL 04-01.00 with 13 conditions. Of which, condition two is Planning
Commission determination of a waiver for a cul-de-sac length of 570' on
New Road. The maximum length of a dead end street allowable by
ordinance is 500'. We have received signed conditions of approval.
Ostner: Thank you. Is the applicant present? Would you come forward and give
us your presentation please?
Barnes: Good afternoon. I'm Bleaux Barnes with Keystone Consultants on behalf
of Arkansas Oaks. We have Bill Helmer here present, a representative of
Arkansas Oaks that might answer any questions that you might have.
Ostner: At this point we will open it up to the public. Is there anyone here who
would like to comment on this issue, PPL 04-01.00 for Bridgeport?
Seeing no one I will close it to the public and move it back to the
Commission for comments.
Shackelford: Condition number seven, I was trying to remember this this afternoon. It
calls for removal of the construction office at the time of Final Plat shall
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be required to comply with the conditions of CUP 03-27.00. Is this the
last phase of Bridgeport? I'm trying to remember that Conditional Use, I
don't remember that condition per say.
Warrick: We kind of thought Phase VI was the last phase of Bridgeport. They seem
to have additional properties and were considering additional properties at
the time. The intent with that condition is that when the Final Plat for
Phase VII that the construction trailer goes away. I realize this is Phases
VII and VIII and that is something that you, as a Planning Commission,
placed a condition on that Conditional Use and it was, if I remember right,
three years or when that Final Plat is approved and the construction is
completed on that phase, whichever comes first as far as when the time
frame went away or lapsed on the Conditional Use approval. Our
recommendation would be Phase VII and even though we are looking at
two phases, there would then be the option for, if there is continuing work
on the site, to operate what we wanted to do was to basically replace the
sales office with the construction trailer which would function on the site
as the infrastructure was being installed for that phase and then, of course,
the sales office would go away. We expect Phase VII to be the one where
that applies.
Shackelford: Thank you.
Allen: I wondered if the applicant could talk to us a little bit about the waiver for
the cul-de-sac length.
Helmer: The waiver for the cul-de-sac came about as we were meeting with the
staff and trying to solve a couple of problems. One that we have a piece
of property that was not accessible and was going to wind up being a very
large lot which we didn't really want to create. Also, to avoid three large
walnut trees it caused us to have to go a little bit longer with that cul-de-
sac.
Clark: On condition of approval number one that the remnant of common
property is going to be maintained by the Property Owner's Association,
has that been agreed to by the Property Owner's Association or is there a
Property Owner's Association now?
Helmer: There is a Property Owner's Association. I guess technically that has not
been agreed to. We kind of left that, they will agree to it if that is what we
determine to do with the property. There is actually another development
forthcoming that this property adjoins with which would be better if it was
just joined to a lot there. The location of it is not really advantageous to
the Property Owner's Association.
Clark: So there is future development coming in that very area?
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Helmer: Yes, that is my understanding.
Warrick: I've spoken with an individual who owns property to the south and they
are proposing to move forward with a development proposal in the near
future.
Helmer: I have spoken with him also. We haven't worked out details but I've
spoken with him about the possibility of one or the other of us buying a
strip of land from the other and making that a lot actually.
Warrick: That is what staff would prefer to see happen and that's what we are
encouraging both of these developers to do but we did need to have a fall
back because that remnant tract doesn't meet the criteria to be considered
a legal lot within the zoning district so it would have to be considered an
un -buildable parcel and therefore, greenspace to be maintained by some
entity should they not be able to work out an agreement between the two
developers. We expect that a small lot line adjustment would allow for
that remnant tract to become a legal lot within either Bridgeport or
whatever the unnamed development to the south would be.
Clark: I'm not sure exactly who to address this question to. Suzanne and I talked
a little today about traffic and the impact of this development, the
development that you are talking about to be named at a later date, and all
the other developments that are going up and down Mt. Comfort Road.
When we were taking our tour last week it is a testament to Dawn's
driving ability that two bikers did not meet an untimely demise because it
is a very narrow road. I'm very concerned about the impact that as we add
more development in a quilting fashion is going to have on traffic. I'm
not even sure who I should address this question to but it seems to be a
concern that as smaller developments come up one after another
somebody has to answer it. What type of impact do we project these types
of development to have on Mt. Comfort, which is already a very crowded,
small road with no shoulders?
Warrick: Any development within the city is going to impact any infrastructure in
the area existing and future. What we are charged with considering is
whether or not the amount of impact caused by any particular
development exceeds what they are going to be installing as public
infrastructure on that project site. That is the starting point. The Planning
Commission does have the ability to assess offsite improvements should
they feel that there is a burden on the public infrastructure surrounding the
project that is exasperated or caused to be worsened by the particular
development that is being proposed. One thing that is very important to
keep in consideration is the fact that there is law that has to do with rough
proportionality of the impact of a development and the amount of
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improvement or assessment that is charged towards that development.
What we do is we try to make a reasonable recommendation that we feel is
fair and is consistent with regard to the way that we consider all
development proposals. The amount of infrastructure that that
development is bearing the burden for and whether or not it is in excess of
what is there directly on site and whether or not, for instance on the
Lindsey Office Building that we saw earlier, staff recommended and the
Planning Commission approved, an assessment for contribution towards
the signalization of a future intersection. We do take that into
consideration when we make recommendations. In this particular case we
are looking at a development that will be providing future connections,
two to the east, one to the south and they also will be dedicating right of
way for a collector street, which is larger than a standard street, for New
Bridge Road when it extends to the east through this development. We
also have to take into consideration the disbursement of traffic and the fact
that they are providing for future connections and so with that connection
not all of this traffic that is generated by this development will have to
access on Mt. Comfort Road. There is capability through this
development to access Wedington Drive, in the future to access Rupple
Road, but to access currently Wedington, Mt. Comfort and 54`" Street to
the west. That traffic is not all going to be targeted at one particular
location, it has the ability to be disbursed and that comes through the
requirement for connectivity and future stub outs that we look at with each
development.
Clark: As soon as I figure out everything you just told me I'm sure I will have a
follow up question. Because they are building connector roads, or streets,
into other major thoroughfares that are already heavily traveled, at what
point would it be judicious for us to look at Mt. Comfort itself and doing
something to improve that major thoroughfare?
Warrick: As we move forward in this process you'll see that when we do have a
development that adjoins Mt. Comfort, for instance on the north side of
Hamestring Creek there is a large, vacant tract, when that develops there
will be requirements for right of way dedication and improvements on Mt.
Comfort. There are other developments that are currently in process,
under construction along Mt. Comfort, that you will see piece meal
improvements with curb and gutter and expansion of the street paving
section as those developments occur. It is, as you said, a quilting process
where it is not all going to happen at once. Mt. Comfort is a little bit
tricky because it is a state highway and we don't fully control it. We can
require improvements but we can't predict a comprehensive major
improvement that might come through. We work through the Northwest
Arkansas Regional Planning Commission for projecting larger projects
such as that and there are certain state monies and federal monies that are
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allocated through that agency for projects within the Benton and
Washington Counties area.
MOTION:
Ostner: Do we have any other comments? I am going to go ahead and make a
motion that we approve PPL 04-01.00 with the conditions as stated.
Graves: I will second that.
Ostner: Is there further discussion? Renee?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to approve PPL 04-01.00 was
approved by a vote of 8-0-0.
Thomas: The motion carries eight to zero.
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ANX 04-05.00: Annexation (Harper/Brandon, pp 61) was submitted by Michelle
Harrington of Harrington, Miller, Neihouse & Krug, P.A. on behalf of Craig and Karyn
Harper and Gary Brandon for property located at Albright Road and George Anderson
Road. The property is in the Planning Area and contains approximately 9.99 acres. The
request is to annex the subject property into the City of Fayetteville.
RZN 04-04.00: Rezoning (Harper/Brandon, pp 61) was submitted by Michelle
Harrington of Harrington, Miller, Neihouse & Krug, P.A. on behalf of Craig and Karyn
Harper and Gary Brandon for property located at Albright Road and George Anderson
Road. The property is zoned R -A, Residential Agricultural and contains approximately
9.99 acres. The request is to rezone the subject property to RSF-4, Residential Single-
family, 4 units per acre.
Ostner: The next item on our agenda is ANX 04-05.00 for Harper/Brandon.
Morgan: I will review the Annexation request along with the Rezoning request
together.
Warrick: They will require separate votes but since they are the same property you
might want to hear them together.
Ostner: Ok, so we are going to hear the rezoning and discuss it and then we will
hear the annexation and discuss it and vote on them separately.
Morgan: I will review the annexation first. The subject property contains two tracts
of property equaling 9.99 acres. This property is vacant and it is located
east of Crossover Road, a principal arterial, and north of Copper Creek
Phase II, an approved Preliminary Plat. It is also south of the Springdale
city limits. The property is adjacent to the city limits along it's southern
boundary for approximately 1,300 feet and this is where it abuts Copper
Creek Phase II. The applicant is proposing the Annexation of the property
into the City of Fayetteville. We noted a rezoning request has been
submitted for this property. Staff has reviewed this and made some
findings. The requested annexation will extend an existing peninsula to
the north. The extension, however, will create an appropriate boundary
that will extend to the Planning Area boundary limits. No island
completely surrounded by a municipality will be created by annexing this
subject property. In addition, this area does not consist of a defined
subdivision or neighborhoods. However, future development plans may
include the extension of the Copper Creek subdivision and proposed
boundaries for property lines. Current conditions result in a fire response
time of just over eight minutes from Fire Station #4 and over nine minutes
from Fire Station #5. Any development in this area would necessitate
installation of hydrants and other such infrastructure improvements to the
area. The Police Department reports that current levels of service would
not be compromised and that coverage in this area can be provided.
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Annexations into the city automatically are zoned R -A and the applicant is
requesting to rezone to RSF-4. I will review the findings that staff has
made for that request for a rezoning. The proposed zoning is for single
family residential and is compatible with the proposed land use to the
south. The land use to the east is utilized for single family residential and
agricultural uses with the property to the west vacant. A higher density
than the R -A district allows for development of a subdivision with density
appropriate in this area and would provide compatibility to the south.
With those findings, staff is recommending approval of the requested
Annexation and Rezoning.
Ostner: Thank you Ms. Morgan. Is the applicant present? Could you introduce
yourself?
Harrington: My name is Mickey Harrington, I'm the attorney for the Brandon and the
Harpers. With me tonight is the engineer on the project, Brian Moore of
ESI and Mr. and Mrs. Brandon. If you have any questions we are here to
answer them. I don't think there is anything to present that staff has not
already told you about. We do request approval of both the Annexation
and the Rezoning.
Ostner: Thank you. At this point I will open it up for public comment. If you
would like to come forward and tell us your name and give us your
comments.
Stewart: I am Alan Stewart, I live on George Anderson Road. Some of us here live
on single houses on multiple acres and we are a little bit concerned about
having 40 houses jammed on 10 acres. We are concerned about traffic,
we are concerned about drainage, we are concerned about the width of
Albright Road, which is already very narrow. The other person eluded to
the fire coverage, we are also concerned about that. I would like to have
these questions answered. None of us, as far as I know, has yet seen a plat
of this property and we would like to have some of these questions
answered. Thank you.
Ostner: We'll try to do that tonight.
Nooncaster: My name is John Nooncaster, my property abuts this. I have a map of this
if you wouldn't mind taking a look at this. It is kind of a long story. I'll
try to make it short and not burden you too much. The pink color on this
map is Albright Road is here, this is the City of Springdale. The City of
Fayetteville is along the western portion of this map. The City of
Fayetteville also continues to the south of the Harper property, which is
the brownish, orange property located here. I own the two tracts of
property that are colored in yellow here. In this area bounded by George
Anderson Road there are approximately 40 acres that are still county
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property. Out of this you are having an Annexation request for 10 acres
tonight. Two weeks from now I have an application for an Annexation of
the southern 20 acres that I own in this area as well. I had discussions
with Ms. Warrick about a year ago and I was getting her opinion on staff's
recommendation of bringing in both tracts of property that I own in this
area. She said that there was a concern by the Planning Department that
the blue tract here, which is approximately a three acre tract, would create
an island if I brought my Annexation without that property. After much
time and effort I decided it was better to bring an application for only the
20 acre tract and not for the 7 acre tract that is north of that because I felt
that at some time in the future there would be a request for this Harper
property to be brought into the city and they would face the same issue
that I was facing, the creation of an island. If you read the General Plan
2020 it says one of the guiding principles is that annexations of existing
islands and peninsulas should be formed. It says we should not annex
areas that would create an island or a peninsula. Developers are often
accused of trying to circumvent the rules and trying to get loop holes. If
you read the finding that staff has it says no island, a tract of county
property completely surrounded by a municipality will be created by
annexing the subject property. That statement is totally true but the item
that is glossed over in that statement is the fact that it will not be
surrounded by a municipality. There will be 30 acres in this area that will
be completely surrounded by the municipalities of Fayetteville and
Springdale. In my reading of that it says an island. It does not say an
island that is surrounded by one municipality, it says an island. That is
why I have chosen when I had my chance to make an application for the
20 acres that I did not brim the seven acres in because I had a discussion
with Mr. Pate on March 11` and he also voiced similar concerns about the
creation of an island with this three acres of property. Apparently, if you
create a three acre island it seems to be a trouble, you create a 30 acre
island apparently there is not trouble with it. That was the comments I
had. If anybody has any additional questions I would be happy to answer
them.
Ostner: Are there other members of the audience who would like to comment on
both the Annexation and Rezoning?
Rothenberger: My name is Andrea Rothenberger. My husband and I also own acreage
wit all of the folks in our row on George Anderson Road and we have not
been approached at all, unlike some of the others I've heard tonight, by the
applicant at all, Mr. Brandon or Mr. Harper in regard to what the plans are
for the residential rezoning. I would like to know and I think others of us
would just like to know a little bit more and have more information in
general about what the intent is on the square footage of the homes and in
general what would be planned for homes there.
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Ostner: Thank you. Are there other members of the public who would like to
comment on this issue?
Stewart: My name is Catherine Stewart and I also own property on George
Anderson Road. My question is George Anderson Road is currently a
gravel road. Is the plan to pave this or maintain it as a gravel road and
what would be the implication of additional traffic on a gravel road during
the winter and the summer when there is a lot of dust?
Ostner: Are there other members of the public who would like to comment on
these two items? Seeing none, I will close it to the public and bring it
back to the Commission for discussion with the applicant.
Anthes: I wondered if staff might talk to the neighbors on George Anderson Road
and tell them when in the process they will be privy to the development
plans.
Warrick: The process is just getting started at this point in time. We are considering
annexing 9.99 acres into the city limits of Fayetteville and should that be
approved by the City Council the request is for that property to then be
zoned for single family residential use with no more than four units per
acre. Once that is in place, should the Council approve those two requests,
the applicant would then be able to submit a development proposal to the
city showing a Preliminary Plat to layout a subdivision showing street
connections, how many lots, what size lots, where detention is, and what
improvements would be going along with that particular development.
That will go again through the Planning Commission review process. It
will be heard at two public hearings through the Planning Commission
process prior to approval. That is a secondary action once this particular
request and it's accompanying rezoning request are through the process.
Should the Council choose not to annex the property or zone it we would
not see a development proposal unless the applicant chose to develop a
project in the city's Planning Area, which would not be required to meet
certain development criteria of the city.
Moore: I'm Brian Moore with Engineering Services. Copper Creek Phase II abuts
George Anderson Road. In Copper Creek Phase II we are making
improvements to our side of George Anderson Road to the city standards
and the other side, the east side, to the county standards. I would assume
that it would be the same. The development of this acreage we would end
up doing the same thing.
MOTION:
Anthes: By annexing the property we are able to, as a city, require a higher level of
standards for that street development than if the property remains in the
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county. Knowing that, I would like to move to send ANX 04-05.00 to the
City Council with a recommendation for approval.
Shackelford: I will second.
Ostner: We have a motion and a second. Is there any other discussion on this
issue?
Trumbo: Mr. Nooncaster's concern about the island, I was wondering if the staff
could comment on that.
Warrick: Staff believes that what is being created here, while it will be a 30 acre
tract of land that is surrounded on all four sides by incorporated properties,
on three sides by the City of Fayetteville and on the north by the City of
Springdale, with regard to the Annexation policy, we are not creating an
island that the city would then have the ability to control by annexing it
through ordinance as we could if that piece of property were surrounded
on all four sides by the City of Fayetteville. I believe what we have here
is a timing issue. It is a situation where the property to the east has come
before, the Nooncaster property, which is slated for your agenda on the
26`h. With regard to whether the three acre Kelly tract is then of issue, that
is something that we have to weigh the Annexation policy against. In
reality, should the Council choose to annex this 10 acres that we are
considering tonight, I believe it makes the case even stronger for the
Nooncaster and Kelly properties to be annexed into the City of
Fayetteville because they are surrounded on three sides by the City of
Fayetteville. They are within the City of Fayetteville Planning Area,
which is the designated boundary that we feel will become annexed to the
city within a 25 to 30 year span. Therefore, being suitable to be annexed
into the city. It is a timing issue and what we see first, second and last is
really based on when applicants propose to go into the process. The city is
not actively reaching out and annexing by election at this point in time.
There are other communities in Northwest Arkansas that are choosing to
do that right now but it is not something that the City of Fayetteville
desires to do. We look for people to petition to annex into the city and
then once we have the application in process and understand what's being
requested, we analyze that against our adopted policies to make a
recommendation to you and to the City Council on that request.
Ostner: Thank you. Is there any other discussion? Renee, can you call the roll
please?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to forward ANX 04-05.00 to
the City Council with a recommendation for approval was approved by a
vote of 8-0-0.
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Thomas: The motion carries eight to zero.
Ostner: The next item is tandem to this, RZN 04-04.00 for Harper Brandon, the
same parcel and the same project we have already been talking about. We
have already heard a presentation. Commissioners, do you have
discussion on this Rezoning?
Shackelford: Based on what we just did, the request was an annexation. The property
comes in under bylaw as zoned Agricultural. On the 2020 Plan and
looking at adjoining neighborhoods, it makes a lot more sense I think to
be zoned RSF-4 with a maximum of four units per acre. Based on staff's
findings and those two points of fact, I will make a motion that we
recommend approval to the City Council of RZN 04-04.00.
Anthes: I will second. I would also like to encourage the developers to have a
meeting with the neighbors as you develop your recommendations for the
plan.
Ostner: Thank you. We have a motion by Commissioner Shackelford and a
second by Commissioner Anthes. I would just like to reiterate that this is
merely a land use decision and the development will come back before us
and the public will have an opportunity at that point to talk about the
details, the nuts and bolts that they want to hear about with this piece of
property. Is there further discussion?
Clark: I think that is a very important determination to make very clear. I think
that this Commission will follow the development of this property very
closely especially with regard to the concerns of the neighbors in the
surrounding area so I would follow up on the suggestion that the
developers work closely with the neighbors because there obviously, are a
lot of concerns with what now happens to this property. Because it has
been annexed and we are about to take the next vote, it gives you much
more voice in the whole process.
Ostner: Thank you Ms. Clark. Is there further discussion on RZN 04-04.00?
Renee?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to forward RZN 04-04.00 to
the City Council with a recommendation for approval was approved by a
vote of 8-0-0.
Thomas: The motion carries eight to zero.
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RZN 04-06.00: Rezoning (The Crowne, pp 559) was submitted by Crafton, Tull &
Associates, Inc. on behalf of LEC Properties for property located at the southeast corner
of 15`h Street and Beechwood Avenue, north of 181h Street. The property is currently
zoned I-1, Heavy Commercial, Light Industrial, and contains approximately 10.93 acres.
The request is to rezone the subject property to RMF -12, Residential Multi -family, 12
units per acre. Planner: Jeremy Pate
Ostner: The next item on our agenda is another Rezoning, RZN 04-06.00 for the
Crowne.
Pate: This property is located at the southeast corner of 15`h Street and
Beechwood Avenue north of 18`h Street. You may remember it is just
west of the Crowne Apartments that was approved last fall. Currently, the
property is zoned I-1, Heavy Commercial/Light Industrial. To the west is
zoned RMF -24, that is where the Crowne Apartments have been approved
and are well under way with construction at this point. All along the
western border to this piece of property shown on your maps, there is
Town Creek which also abuts the property to the south, the Crowne
Apartments to the south. To the west of that is C-2, Thoroughfare
Commercial. To the north is I-1, there is an existing manufacturing plant
and a SWEPCO facility there as well. C-2 property is to the northwest.
The request tonight is to rezone the subject property to RMF -12, which is
Residential Multi -Family, 12 units maximum per acre. Immediately
surrounding properties are primarily vacant with the exception of the
construction going on to the east with commercial zoned and planned land
use to the west. A natural barrier is formed all along the western boundary
of this property. Town Creek and the associated floodplain, there will be
limited development that can occur in this floodplain, though it may be
important to at some point construct a crossing to actually access that
property from the west and 181h Street. The developer intends to develop a
condominium project, a 10.93 acres with a for sale type of dwelling unit as
a departure from the multi -family units that we have seen with the
apartment complexes of the Crowne. Again, this is just a request for the
rezoning so that is not before us tonight. That is just to allow you the
knowledge that has been represented to us. A trail corridor that is being
constructed by the developer of the Crowne Apartments for the Parks
Department will likely continue along Town Creek with any development
of the proposed project. Again, the proposed zoning allows for a
maximum density of 12 units per acre resulting in a maximum potential of
131 dwelling units. The presence of Town Creek is a major finding with
regard to staff s findings on this proposed rezoning. It does provide a
formal boundary along the south and the west. That is also the line on
which the General Plan deviates on the west side it is Regional
Commercial, on the east side it is more mixed use type of development.
The proposed zoning of course from an I-1 type of zoning would increase
population density in this area. Based on the findings from the Fire
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Department, Police Department and Engineering, which are also located in
your staff report, it will not increase an appreciable traffic congestion or
danger in this area. There are service accessible, both water and sewer.
Of course the services will need to be extended within the development.
Staff's findings for the proposed zoning of multi -family condominium
style residential land uses is compatible with the adjacent and nearby
multi -family dwellings, especially in contrast to the existing I-1 zoning
that it is currently.
Ostner: Thank you. Is the applicant present?
Kelso: I am Jerry Kelso with Crafton, Tull & Associates. I will try to give a brief
presentation. There are a couple of maps here I want to show you. Let me
go over our property and what we've got here. This area that is a beige
color is zoned C-2 at this time. This area here and here is where the
apartments are going up right now is zoned RMF -24. This area down here
is all parks land. This right here is the floodway and the creek is basically
in the center of that. The property that we are looking at is this RMF -12
right here. Our intent is not to put apartments here. These are going to be
condominiums that will be sold. There is a Bill of Assurance that has
been presented to the city and will be posted with this property that we are
limited to less than 100 units and they will be condominiums and sold so
they are not apartments. Unfortunately, the city doesn't have a zoning
designation for condos so that is what this is. The type of condos we are
looking at is what you see, they will be upscale nice looking
condominiums. The one thing that I do want to point out is the fact that
this is a mixed use area so we do have several different uses but I do want
to point out that this is floodway. Those trees will have to remain in place.
Any kind of commercial use for this area just wouldn't be feasible because
of the trees, the floodway and you wouldn't have any visibility. The same
thing on this side here with the large apartment buildings. That is why this
area is zoned commercial and this area is zoned commercial so that kind
of leaves this piece right here and what you do with it. We don't really
want to put apartments there, commercial doesn't make sense but
condominiums seemed to make the most sense and just a great fit for that
piece of property. Again, this is what we have planned on doing and I can
try to answer any questions that you might have.
Ostner: Thank you Sir. At this point I will open it up to the public. Is there
anyone who would like to comment on this issue, the rezoning for the
Crowne? Seeing none, I will close it to the public and bring it back to the
Commission for comments or motions.
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MOTION:
Shackelford: As I look at this property the current zoning of I-1 makes no sense
whatsoever. You've got a large tract of RMF property to the east of this
property and you have commercial property to the west and I think this is
a pretty good buffer. In my mind this is a down zoning. Probably as this
development occurs in this part of town industrial zonings are going to
become less and less needed. I think this is a great concept and I think it
fits in well with what this project overall is accomplishing in this area.
Based on that, I am going to make a motion that we recommend approval
of RZN 04-06.00 as presented.
Clark: Second.
Ostner: There is a motion by Commissioner Shackelford and a second by
Commissioner Clark, is there anymore discussion on RZN 04-06.00? I'd
like to agree that this is a down zoning and our General Plan 2020
designates the west side of this area as mixed use, that is not the area we
are talking about, but for this project to be multi -family residential at this
density, which is half the density of the Crowne Apartments, seems to be a
good fit. I would concur. Are there any other comments? Renee, can you
call the roll?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to forward RZN 04-06.00 to
the City Council with a recommendation for approval was approved by a
vote of 8-0-0.
Thomas: The motion carries eight to zero.
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I-PZD 04-05.00: Industrial Planned Zoning District (Wal-Mart Optical Lab/Hwy
62W, pp 559) was submitted by Todd Jacobs of CEI Engineering Associates, Inc. on
behalf of Wal-Mart Stores, Inc. for property located at 2314 W 6`h Street. The property is
zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial, and is in the Design Overlay District. The request
is to rezone the subject property to an I-PZD, Industrial Planned Zoning District, to allow
a 979 sq.ft. addition to the Optical Lab building and revise the on-site parking. Planner:
Jeremy Pate
Ostner: Next is I-PZD 04-05.00 for Wal-Mart Optical Lab.
Graves: I have to recuse from this particular item because of my employer's
representation of Wal-Mart.
Ostner: Thank you. Can we have the staff report please?
Pate: The site was formerly a Wal-Mart retail store and operated as such until
the early 1990's, the records are a little hazy. The site is zoned C-2,
Thoroughfare Commercial and is located within the Design Overlay
District. Currently the site is used as what is called the Wal-Mart Optical
Lab, a Tractor Supply Co., which leases the property from Wal-Mart, and
the Arkansas State Unemployment Center, which is a separate building to
the west. The Wal-Mart Optical Lab's use came into being in
approximately mid 1995. That was basically through a tenant finish out
building permit that was issued basically to rehab the interior and probably
install new signage. Based on current ordinances, the use of an optical
center would not be allowed in the C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial zoning
district. Therefore, an expansion, which is what the developer has
requested, would require a rezoning because it is not allowed by right nor
by Conditional Use in the C-2 zoning district. The most appropriate
process for this to approve an expansion for this particular use would be
the Industrial Planned Zoning District. Staff would not be in support of a
general rezone to I-1 nor I-2 in this area. It is definitely a type of regional
commercial area. It is a very high trafficked interchange with I-540 and
6`h Street. The request tonight is to rezone the subject property to an I-
PZD, which is an Industrial Planned Zoning District, the first of which
we've seen in the city, and to allow a 979 sq.ft. addition to the Optical Lab
building. Also, to revise the onsite parking for a more efficient manner of
re -striping the parking. Future Land Use Plan identifies this site again, as
Regional Commercial. The applicant does utilize a portion of the site,
about 53% of it for their lab uses and tight manufacturing uses. The
remaining portion is leased to commercial use and office use. Rezoning to
an I-PZD more appropriately, again, fits the current use of the site to it's
zoning district. The applicant has indicated that a mixture of the current
manufacturing and lab use, commercial uses and office space are to be
allowed within the use units for the I-PZD. The net parking spaces with
the proposal actually decrease with the additions of islands and
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landscaping to meet both our parking lot ordinance with regard to
landscaping and our Design Overlay District requirements with regard to a
minimum of 25% greenspace onsite. They are bringing that up from I
believe 18% or 19%. Also, they have proposed 25' of landscaping along
6`" Street with trees planted every 30 linear feet and shrubs to screen the
parking. All of those requirements are being met by this proposal. Staff is
in great recommendation of that. It is a derelict site at this point with a
decrepit parking lot void of any plantings or landscaping at this time. I
think that would be a very good addition to that area. Additionally, the
Wal-Mart Optical Lab in this area employs about 530 employees. Some
of which, 500 of which on a cycle of shifts are at the Optical Lab. Six to
ten are at the Tractor Supply and six to ten at the Employment Center as
well. As I mentioned, the applicant proposes to retain several of the use
units that are more usually found within the C-2 zoning district and are
also allowed in the I-PZD zoning district. In some of the findings, the site
is relatively fully developed. There is no addition to any structure with the
exception of 979 sq.ft., which I believe are shown in the elevations and the
ones in your packet as well. The development expansion, along with the
re -striping of parking spaces, achieves a more efficient use of the space for
the applicant and is minimal relative to public improvements proposed. 6'
sidewalks also are to be constructed along 6`h Street, also with landscaping
along Futrall and Old Farmington Road for that frontage, which is
required by ordinance for both the Large Scale Development and a
Planned Zoning District. Staff is recommending approval of the Industrial
Planned Zoning District with a number of conditions. I will mention a
couple of those. Planning Commission determination of Commercial
Design Standards for the building expansion. All future additions,
remodels and new construction for existing and proposed buildings shall
comply with commercial design standards and Design Overlay District
requirements. A minimum of 51% of the gross floor area on the site shall
be of Industrial use per the I-PZD zoning ordinance. Any less than that or
changes of use will require a rezoning request. Item number seven I've
added, the existing access to Futrall Drive shall be permanently removed
from public access. That has been shown on the plans and we've
discussed that with the applicant. Additionally, all parking lot lights are to
be shielded, directed downward and away from adjacent properties
utilizing full cut off sodium lighting fixtures. That is a requirement in the
Design Overlay District and the existing fixtures are to be retrofitted to
meet those requirements. If you have any questions about this please feel
free to ask.
Ostner: Thank you Mr. Pate. Could the applicant come forward please, introduce
yourself and give us your presentation.
Jacobs: Good evening, my name is Todd Jacobs, I'm with CEI Engineering
representing Wal-Mart. I think Jeremy gave a good description of the
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history of this site. It has kind of been a couple of months of getting up to
speed of how this site has evolved over time. Basically, there is a site that
is not compliant right now. With this process we feel that it will best
represent the city and Wal-Mart as well, in the future. With bringing the
site up to code this will hopefully benefit the city with future development.
This is a regional commercial node that is happening in this area. With
the proposed improvements with the new landscaping we are removing
29,000 sq.ft. of impervious area to bring this site up to code so we'll meet
the 25% greenspace. We are adding 30 or 32 landscape islands with new
tree plantings, a new sidewalk along 6`h Street, we will be extending that
onto Blockbuster which is really not part of our property but is in the right
of way to make that extension. This site is kind of a crazy site to work
with, with the evolution of it being turned into light industrial. With the
re -striping it will be more efficient and the landscape islands, I think this is
the best use for this piece of property. There are quite a few employees
through the day, 530 give or take a few with the different shifts. For that
reason, we are asking for a little bit over the allowance of what would be
allowed by normal code for parking. Hopefully, bringing this site up to
code, like Jeremy talked about, is a very derelict site, as you saw from the
tour. That will hopefully encourage development in this area and bringing
this site up to code for an entryway into Fayetteville. With that, I hope
you will approve this project. Thank you.
Ostner: Thank you. At this point I will open it up to the public. Is there anyone
here who would like to comment on this issue? Seeing none, I will close it
to the public and bring it back to the Commission.
MOTION:
Allen: I think the need for this tiny lab has resulted in a terrific cue for the City of
Fayetteville for this highly visible artery it will be the beginning of
beautification of this area. It is adding sidewalks, it is removal of asphalt,
it is landscaping, it's a bonanza! With that, I would like to recommend
that we forward to the City Council I-PZD 04-05.00 subject to the 17
conditions of approval.
Anthes: I will second.
Ostner: We have a motion by Commissioner Allen and a second by Commissioner
Anthes, is there further discussion?
Myres: I just have a question. I'm not sure to whom it should be directed.
Currently is it Old Farmington Road is one way into Futrall Drive? Is that
of any concern?
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Warrick: Old Farmington is a two way street. Futrall is the one that is one way and
it is a concern to many people but it is the one way onto the bypass.
Ostner: I do have one comment. I drove by there for the thousandth time today
looking carefully. This proposal does not require sidewalks along Futrall
Drive. Our packet says our Sidewalk Administrator has determined
sidewalks are not feasible. My guess is because of the design of the ditch.
It is not curb and gutter, it is a ditch drainage design. We have approved
our first commercial PZD directly adjacent to this project, directly to the
north situated on the southern part of Southern View and it is designed to
be an old town concept for people to live upstairs and work below and
promote pedestrian activity everywhere. I think a sidewalk along Futrall
is crucial. I would like to add that to the conditions of approval, just make
it number 18 to require a sidewalk along Futrall Drive to benefit the new
development to the north that we have recently approved. Do the
motioner and the seconder agree with that additional condition?
Shackelford: I think we need to have some discussion with that. If our city staff is
telling us that it is not feasible, I would like some sort of input why that
determination was made by a professional that it wasn't feasible before we
require that as a condition of approval on this development. Can staff that
is present now, can you edify us on that decision?
Warrick: One thing that is important to note is that the subject property does not
extend north to Old Farmington Road on Futrall. There is an intervening
property, which is the Sines Autobody Shop, which would be the
connection point to have a sidewalk connection between the Southern
View project and 6`h Street. It would take both properties. In addition to
that it really has to do with what we were provided with regard to a
recommendation from the Sidewalk Administrator, who did review the
site and provide that recommendation to us.
Pate: In addition, Mr. Rutherford, the Sidewalk Administrator, also relayed onto
me the sidewalk connection, specifically this is an area with a school
Sidewalk connections are very important. 6th Street is going to be an
important sidewalk connection. The reason, for instance, it wasn't on the
south side of Old Farmington is there are existing power lines. Also, there
is planned to be a sidewalk on the north side of Old Farmington Road in
conjunction with the same project that you're speaking of, the C-PZD. I
believe that connection along Old Farmington Road is seen as the more
practical connection, especially with regard to high traffic numbers going
all the way down to 6th Street. I believe a lot of the pedestrian connection
will start to follow Old Farmington Road now with the signalized
intersection with the new traffic signal along Sang and Hollywood.
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Ostner: Just to continue this discussion, the southern triangle does abut the
frontage road.
Warrick: Right, it just doesn't extend north to Old Farmington
Shackelford: He is talking about just the specific part that abuts Futrall.
Ostner: Yes, I know Sine's Body Shop does have the majority or the northern half
but the southern half is this property and I understand that the new signal
is helpful but not for people heading west. People heading west from the
school or from the Southern View mixed use development will come right
here.
Warrick: It is the Planning Commission's determination. You have a motion and a
second on the floor that would need to be voted up or down or amended.
Williams: Before the Planning Commission votes you should keep in mind that this
is not an entirely new project. This is a 900 sq.ft. addition. Already the
applicant is performing very many things to enhance the property pursuant
to our ordinances, building sidewalks and removing asphalt, a bonanza, as
Commissioner Allen pronounced it. I understand that the petitioner is in
agreement with all of the conditions at this point, is that correct?
Jacobs: That is correct.
Williams: I appreciate the petitioner for doing that because, in fact, this particular
parking lot was one of the reasons that we passed the parking lot
landscape ordinance a few years back when I was on the Council to avoid
this in the future. However, I would be reluctant to add additional costly
things to the petitioner at this point in time who has already agreed to
spend a terrific amount of money on a 900 sq.ft. addition only. We have
to look at the rough proportionality of what his impact is to the city and to
it's infrastructure needs. I think that they have shown very good faith up
to this point in time.
Ostner: I would agree that this is a great project. They are doing a lot of things
above and beyond and it is greatly appreciated. Personally, with our city's
dire lack of sidewalks in many places, if I, as a single person not speaking
for the entire Commission, if I were presented with should there be a
sidewalk along Futrall or should we remove three tree islands I would say
a sidewalk because I see that as becoming heavily traveled and I see this
as contributing. Why are they doing a sidewalk along 6`h, logically, if they
aren't doing a sidewalk along Futrall? The logic is the same. They are
both major pedestrian thoroughfares but that's on the table.
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Anthes: I guess I need to go back to staff's comments about the feasibility of that
sidewalk. It was the drainage, the overhead power lines and what was the
other?
Pate: Those specifically were concerns along Old Farmington Road as far as
existing infrastructure, utility poles and things of that nature along Old
Farmington Road. As far as the specific condition by which feasible
comes into the aspect of whether sidewalks could or could not be
constructed, I'm sure it could be constructed, it is not impossible. We are
basing that recommendation on our Sidewalk Administrator's
recommendation with that regard per his site visit and recommendation.
Warrick: I would just also add that we do have in our streets and sidewalk chapter
of the Unified Development Code with regard to sidewalk requirements
and when we are looking at building permits or projects where there is an
addition to an existing development of 2,500 sq.ft. or more then a
sidewalk is required by ordinance. When it is less than that of course the
Sidewalk Administrator can offer an opinion, a recommendation, but there
is not an ordinance requirement specific to issuing a building permit for an
addition of less than 2,500 sq.ft.
Anthes: I guess you know, I kind of went back and forth about this when I
originally started looking at this project because the I-PZD is a rezoning
and we are in a situation where we have the Design Overlay District,
we've talked about it being a commercial node and we are rezoning this
property to allow this industrial use in perpetuity now that it would be
rezoned. I always felt kind of comforted by the fact that the applicant
removed many of the use units from the PZD that might have been most
objectionable in that area and left the ones that would be compatible in the
long term. Also, condition of approval number three indicating that all
future additions or remodels and new construction for any existing or
proposed buildings shall comply with the Commercial Design Standards
and Design Overlay District requirements is the thing that really put this
over the edge with me. In terms of proportionality, knowing that going
forward with anything else that this building will be brought up to all of
the other conditions that we would like and I would think that the sidewalk
would be one of those and the fact that they are reducing the amount of
parking and the amount of concrete, they are putting in the islands,
landscaping, they are replacing the lighting to be much more friendly and
we are keeping 500 plus employees in the City of Fayetteville that might
go elsewhere. Knowing that for a 900 sq.ft. addition, I, as the seconder to
the motion, would be willing to leave it stand.
Allen: Mr. Chair, while I understand what you said, I feel that the impact of a 900
sq.ft. building they have gone far and above. I would like to let the motion
stand.
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Ostner: Is there any other discussion? Renee, can you call the roll please?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to forward I-PZD 04-05.00 to
the City Council with a recommendation for approval was approved by a
vote of 7-0-1 with Commissioner Graves abstaining.
Thomas: The motion carries seven to zero.
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ADM 04-11.00: UDC Ch. 172: Parking and Loading (Outdoor patios/dining)
Ostner: The next item on our agenda is ADM 04-11.00, an amendment to Title
XV, Chapter 172.05, standards to the number of spaces by use of the City
of Fayetteville Unified Development Code to exempt restaurants and bars,
existing, expanded and new accessory outdoor patios, balconies, decks,
and similar outdoor use areas from meeting off-street parking
requirements within the C-3 and C-4 zoning districts. Can we have a staff
report Mr. Conklin?
Conklin: Mr. Chair and members of the Commission, my name is Tim Conklin. I
would like to welcome the three new Commissioners. We haven't seen
such a change on the Commission for a long, long time and thank you for
volunteering for the next three years. This evening staff is bringing
forward an ordinance amendment to our parking lot ordinance in our
Unified Development Code Chapter 172.05. Mr. Ostner did go over the
actual amendment. The reason that we are bringing this forward is that we
have had requests with regard to allowing outdoor uses. In the past there
have been pre-existing accessory uses for existing restaurants and bars in
our C-3 and C-4 zoning districts. This afternoon we did do a little analysis
of how many existing outdoor uses we have. We have approximately 24
that we were able to identify. Many of those, once again, have existed for
a long time. Some of them have been more recent. We have seen quite a
bit of redevelopment occur within our downtown area with the conversion
of old warehouse type buildings, restaurants being established. It is not
just along Dickson Street but within our square, downtown area having
outdoor uses. In the past if a property owner wanted to expand an outdoor
use area they had to either provide additional off-street parking on the site
or they would have to go get a shared parking agreement. In the event that
they could not provide the parking or get the shared agreement, there was
a $1,200 in lieu fee that would have to be paid. To date, we have only had
one outdoor use that was assessed the $1,200 per space fee. The City of
Fayetteville did collect $30,000. If this ordinance is amended staff would
recommend to the City Council that that $30,000 be reimbursed to the
developer. We recently went through a series of meetings in January as
part of our Downtown Master Plan. That Downtown Master Plan draft did
talk about street oriented architecture and encouraging the use of balconies
and decks and other outdoor type use areas associated with downtown
development. It also talked about minimizing or reducing the parking
requirements within our downtown area to make it a walkable and lively
community. That was within our cultural and entertainment district. I
have attached the proposed draft language in 172.05. Also attached are
the existing ordinances in our Unified Development Code. Once again,
this has been brought to our attention due to our Downtown Master Plan,
but also, we do have a current business owner who has expressed concern
for the inability of expanding an outdoor use area without being able to
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provide the parking onsite or offsite through a shared parking agreement.
Some of the churches, at least one of the churches, has stopped approving
shared agreements if alcohol is being served as part of the business. So
that has somewhat shut the door on some of those shared parking
agreements and has made it more difficult to expand those outdoor use
areas. That concludes my staff report. If you have any questions I would
be more than happy to answer them.
Ostner: Thank you Mr. Conklin. At this point I will open it up to the public. Is
there anyone who would like to make a comment on this issue? Seeing no
one from the public here, I will close it to the public and bring it back to
the Commission for comments or motions.
Anthes: Does this include roofed terraces too?
Conklin: It includes all accessory outdoor use areas.
Anthes: I'm a little confused. Obviously, if there is a little balcony that projects,
kind of like the Brew Pub and that livens up the street and that is nice.
That doesn't really add an appreciable amount of seating and most people
move out there instead of sitting inside so it is sort of a substitution of the
amount that is in the restaurant to some extent. If this was a roofed terrace
that actually duplicated the entire floor level of seating on a second level,
that might have a little bit more impact. I just wondered if you thought
about that and what your comments were.
Conklin: With regard to putting a patio on top of a roof of a structure that could
potentially double the capacity. We also looked at trying to compare that
to many of the restaurants and bars that I wasn't even aware of until
recently, converting the outdoor space behind their businesses. I think it is
similar if it is on the same level of the structure, out front or on top. You
are somewhat limited due to weather that we have in Northwest Arkansas.
We get rain pretty much year around. The weather changes fairly quick
and it is not a permanent type use that you always can rely on that you are
going to be able to have customers rely on that space on a day to day
basis. That is why we did include it in there. Once again, we are
removing these restrictions to encourage more outdoor use in dining. I
think there are situations when it becomes a balcony or a rooftop deck due
to the building, I think it would be difficult to make that judgment call.
Why we would allow one person to cantilever a balcony over a second
floor and say that's ok and not allow someone to convert a roof to a roof
deck up on top.
Anthes: I guess I am asking this because as I understand it, this is for all C-3 and
C-4 zoning throughout the City of Fayetteville. The map you brought
indicates where these uses are downtown and I agree with that 100%.
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Getting rid of the parking requirements for those kinds of additions in the
downtown area makes a lot of sense. Where I'm struggling with it is
when we go out to wider locations, let's take CMN for instance, one of
those kinds of more open areas that could put a really large amount of
seating outside. I guess I'm thinking about, maybe it's an issue of our
weather, but I'm thinking of some very large venues in Austin, Texas that
have a roof structure but they are outside and they have those patio heaters
and the entire establishment is an outdoor establishment that could seat
500 or 600 people. I wondered if that would be exempt from any parking
requirements under this.
Conklin: The way this is drafted right now, you are talking about outdoor seating
area and they put the portable heaters up, yes, that would be exempt. This
ordinance only applies to the C-3 and C-4 zoning districts so it is only
central.
Warrick: The C-3 and C-4 is basically restricted to the Dickson Street area and the
square.
Anthes: I don't have a zoning map in front of me and that's why I'm asking this.
Warrick: Except in two or three really small locations, it really doesn't expand
beyond maybe Lafayette Street down to a few little places south of the
downtown square area zoned C-3 but it is not really expansive.
Conklin: Dickson, along East Street, Spring, Center, Mountain, Rock, Archibald
Yell, it is fairly defined area of downtown.
Ostner: It would seem to me the situation here is that out in suburbs when people
are developing they consistently, every single time, ask us for more
parking than we allow and we always give them what they need because
they are not hemmed in by buildings on their sides. I think this situation is
only going to come up in our urban developed areas where they have a
problem and our current regulations are asking for more parking and they
can't deliver it whereas, out in the suburbs I think they would naturally
want to build whatever they needed to keep their business going.
Anthes: I had to ask because I think there are some kinds of structures and uses
that we have not seen in Fayetteville before but that could conceivably
come and I just wanted to make sure that we knew that those opportunities
might exist and what we were getting into.
Ostner: Some of the establishments at the Southern View mixed use could, in fact,
even though it is a PZD, could want outdoor seating easily.
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Conklin: I was just going to add to Commissioner Anthes' comments with regard to
the scale of use, we did include the words accessory use in this ordinance,
meaning that the outdoor use is not the principal use of the structure or the
area that you didn't have someone just take a vacant lot and start serving
but that it was an accessory to a permanent use. I was just trying to make
sure that this is an accessory to the principal use on the site.
MOTION:
Allen: With that clarification, I would like to move for approval of ADM 04-
11.00.
Anthes: I will second.
Ostner: There is a motion by Commissioner Allen and a second by Commissioner
Anthes, do we have any further discussion?
Anthes: We are forwarding that to the City Council.
Ostner: Ok. Renee?
Roll Call: Upon the completion of roll call the motion to forward ADM 04-11.00 to
the City Council with a recommendation for approval was approved by a
vote of 8-0-0.
Thomas: The motion carries eight to zero.
Ostner: Thank you. The other notes are I'm going to appoint the Subdivision
Committee, Mr. Shackelford, Ms. Anthes and Mr. Vaught.
Conklin: I would like to thank the Commission for forwarding that on. This is just
a small piece to the overall Downtown Master Plan. We do have new
draft zoning districts and zoning standards for a cultural and overlay zone.
Dover, Kohl and Partners will be refining those drafts. Draft II will be
available in the next few weeks. Thank you.
Announcements
Meeting adjourned: 7:41 p.m.