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MINUTES OF A SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING
A meeting of the Fayetteville Subdivision Committee was held on Thursday, July 15,
1993 at 10:30 a m , in Room 111 of the City Administration Building, 113 West
Mountain Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
Jerry Allred and Bob Reynolds
Kenneth Pummill
Alett Little, Sid Norbash, Tim Conklin, Steve
Cummings, Dave Jorgensen, Ron Petrie, Bill
Rudasill, Dee Wright, and others
LARGE SCALE DEVELOMENT - STEVE CUMMINGS HOUSING TRACT
STEVE CUMMINGS - W OF CROSSOVER, N OF HUNTSVILLE RD.
The first item was a request for approval of a large scale development for a tract of
eight houses presented by Steve Cummings for property located on the west side of
Crossover Road, north of Huntsville Road. The property is zoned R-1, Low Density
Residential, and contains approximately 25 acres.
Ms Little explained this was a development of 25 acres but the houses were located
on approximately 2.25 acres within the 25 acres. She also noted there was
approximatley 298 feet of frontage on Highway 265. She advised one of the
outstanding issues on this development included additional right-of-way on Highway
265 to bring it up to a standard 100 foot of right-of-way. She stated there was
currently only 40 feet of right-of-way. She explained that, as with any development
that occurred along a major thoroughfare which was being considered for widening,
the city was requiring dedication by Mr. Cummings of half of that right-of-way (30
feet) . She stated there was a memo to the Legal Department requesting an opinion
on this matter because Mr. Cummings did not want to give the city right-of-way.
She stated the other issue was the use of a private drive to access the subject
properties. She explained this project was being submitted as a large scale
development rather than a subdivision because Mr. Cummings did not intend to
subdivide the lots. She stated the lot dimensions were shown only to insure each
home met the city setback requirements. She advised staff believed the drive should
be a public drive since, at some future time, the structures could be sold
individually .
Ms. Little stated the Engineering Department had requested a larger sewer line than
was shown and that Mr. Cummings hire a professional engineer in order to show the
utility easements on his plat and to properly prepare for the connections. She
advised Mr. Cummings had not expressed a desire to use an engineer. She explained
she had commented at the plat review meeting that she did not believe the large scale
development plan was in shape to be presented to the Planning Commission. She
pointed out the Subdivision Committee or Planning Commission did have the right to
refuse a Large Scale Development if the development plan was not submitted in
accordance with ordinance. She advised Mr. Cummings felt he had met the
requirements since he had gone through the ordinance and provided the information.
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Mr. Cummings advised he had not had an opportunity to read the request for a legal
opinion. He explained he and Ms. Little had agreed to seek a legal opinion from the
city attorney regarding the giving of right-of-way along Highway 265. He stated he
did not wish to give an additional 20 or 30 feet of right-of-way to the City of
Fayetteville. He stated all of the large developers were giving right-of-way but
were then asking for 10,000 variances. He advised he was not asking for anything
but was saying that the Arkansas State Statute strongly demanded that, when the.
road was increased in size, the Arkansas State Highway Department would negotiate
with him and he would sell them the land. He stated that was America -- you sold
your land to the government; that an individual did not have to give his land to the
city.
Mr. Allred pointed out the city required every other developer to meet city code and
requirements. He asked why they should not require that of Mr. Cummings.
Mr. Cummings stated he was particularly different. He advised he was not a high
roller developer. He stated he was very simple in what he wanted to do and just do
what the law required. He stated he did not want to be treated like a "Lindsey"
because he was just building small houses which would not be sold but would rent for
$200 or $300 a month to people who could not afford to buy a house in the American
system as it existed.
Mr. Reynolds explained Fayetteville had changed, times had changed, and laws had
changed. He advised they had to go by Fayetteville's laws, not Cummings' law. He
stated they had to go by the rules and regulations of the City of Fayetteville and Mr.
Cummings would have to follow those rules.
Mr. Cummings stated it was a question of legal law and when they got an opinion from
the city attorney then he would either accept it or file litigation.
MOTION
Mr. Allred moved to table this item until all legal questions had been addressed.
Mr. Reynolds seconded the motion.
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PRELIMINARY PLAT - REMINGTON PLACE
MIKE PARKER - N OF STEARNS, E OF FRONTAGE RD
The next item was a preliminary plat for Remington Place presented by Al Harris,
Northwest Engineers, on behalf of Mike Parker for property located north of
Stearns, east of Frontage Road. The property contains 8.84 acres with 14 proposed
lots and is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial.
Ms. Langley advised this plat had not gone through the Plat Review process but the
engineer had individually contacted each plat review representative.
Mr. Conklin advised sidewalks did need to be shown along Stearns and the proposed
street. He noted the sidewalks needed to be five feet wide set back from the curb
by four feet. He also stated they needed to provide a street name for the proposed
street. He requested the easement be vacated. He advised they had submitted a.
tree preservation plan which met city requirements.
Ms Little also noted the city would require a contribution from this development
toward the improvement of the intersection of Joyce and Highway 71B. She
explained engineering was almost complete on the intersection. She advised their
proportionate share would have to be calculated.
In response to a question from Mr. Allred, Ms. Little explained the developer would
be responsible for the extension of Stearns to the entrance of the subject property.
She stated the developer was responsible for the entire width of Stearns to the west
side of Lot 14 and one-half of the street to the eastern boundary of their property.
She advised the city was willing to take an escrow or contract for that portion from
the west side of lot 14.
Mr. Parker stated it was his understanding that Mcllroy Bank would be paying for
one-half of the extension along the front of their property.
Ms. Little advised the City had not made that requirement and, that unless Mr.
Parker had that in writing, it was unenforceable from the city's standpoint.
Mr. Norbash asked if the City Engineer had agreed to the vacation of the water
easement.
Mr. Parker stated he had.
Ms. Little advised the vacation would need to go before the City Council.
In response to a question from Mr. Parker, Ms. Little advised the sidewalks would
have to go in as part of the development, not as each lot was being developed.
MOTION
Mr. Reynolds moved to pass the plat on to the Planning Commission with staff
comments which included vacating of the easement, the sidewalk, extension of the
street, and a letter of agreement from Mcllroy Bank.
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Mr. Allred seconded the motion.
In response to a question from Mr. Parker, Ms. Little explained that the Northwest
Arkansas Mall and the Clary Development Corporation were participating in the
improvement of the Joyce/Highway 71B intersection improvement. She advised they.
had approached existing businesses along Frontage Street but city regulations did
not allow the city to force contribution from existing businesses. She noted the City
would be paying for one-fourth of the cost.
Mr. Parker asked for an estimated amount of his share.
Ms. Little stated she would estimate between $5,000 and $15,000.
Mr. Norbash also requested a grading and drainage plan be submitted.
Ms Little stated the subject area was a rapidly developing area with significant
traffic problems. She reviewed the improvements planned for the intersection.
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LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - WILD HAWG GRILL
GREG HEGER - W OF RAZORBACK, S OF HWY 62
The next item was a large scale development for the Wild Hawg Grill presented by
Dave Jorgensen on behalf of Greg Heger for property located on the west side of
Razorback, south of Highway 62. The property is zoned I-1, Light Industrial and
Heavy Commercial, and contains 3.19 acres.
Ms. Little advised the developer would have to file a tree preservation plan.
Mr. Conklin requested the 10 -foot right-of-way dedication be shown on the plat. He
also noted the sidewalk needed to be five foot wide, set back four feet.
In response to a question from Ms. Little, Mr. Jorgensen stated the utilities would
be underground.
Ms. Little asked if they had solved the problem of the easement to the south of the
subject tract.
Mr. Jorgensen advised they were working on it; that they were trying to do a
property line adjustment so the center of the easement would be the south property
line. He noted the lot was currently overgrown and would have to be cleaned before.
they could determine what trees were on the property.
In response to a question from Mr. Norbash, Ms. Little explained Razorback would
be a state highway due to a trade of maintenance of the current Highway 180. She
stated the city was to obtain the right-of-way and pay 20% of the improvements.
Mr. Norbash asked if the developer had to get the state's permission for curb cuts.
Ms. Little advised the roadway was in design. She recommended he notify the state
but did not believe it was necessary to get their permission at this time.
MOTION
Mr. Reynolds moved to forward the large scale development to the full Planning
Commission subject to staff comments.
Mr. Allred seconded the motion.
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FINAL PLAT - QUAIL CREEK ESTATES, PHASE II
MILLER FAMILY TRUST - S OF APPLEBY, E OF GREGG
The next item was a final plat for Quail Creek Estates, Phase II, presented by Ron
Petrie, Milholland Engineering, on behalf of the Miller Family Trust for property
located south of Appleby, east of Gregg. The property is zoned R-1.5, Moderate
Density Residential, and contains 18.01 acres with 43 proposed lots.
Mr. Conklin stated a sidewalk needed to be shown on one side of Ripple Creek.
Ms. Little stated there was a requirement for some off-site easements. She advised
those would need to be dedicated by separate instrument. She also advised the
developer would have to enter into a contract for the completion of the unfinished
improvements.
Mr. Norbash advised the developer needed to verify that none of the property was
in the flood plain.
Mr. Allred pointed out there would need to be a waiver on the length of the cul-de-
sac.
Ms. Little advised the City was now requiring a stub -out so a future property owner
• would know the street would, at some time in the future, be a through street.
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MOTION
Mr. Reynolds moved to forward the plat to the full Planning Commission with staff
comments.
Mr. Allred seconded the motion.
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PRELIMINARY PLAT - THE MASTERS
WRIGHT -PENCE, INC. - S OF COUNTRY CLUB DRIVE, E OF S. COLLEGE
The next item was a preliminary plat for The Masters, presented by Bill Rudasill on
behalf of Wright -Pence, Inc. for property located south of Country Club Drive and
east of South College. The property is zoned R-1, Low Density Residential, and
contains 20 acres with 53 proposed lots.
Mr. Allred explained the Subdivision Committee reviewed the technical aspects of the
development. He advised they could not approve or disapprove the project but just
forwarded their recommendation to the full Planning Commission.
Mr. Conklin explained the development would require a waiver for the length of a
cul-de-sac. He advised a tree preservation plan was required. He asked if access
on lot 2 would be restricted from the west.
Ms. Wright advised it would be restricted; there would be no access from Country
Club .
Mr. Rudasill advised that lot 1, Phase I would be the only lot with access to Country
Club Drive.
Mr. Jim McCord, representing the Fayetteville Country Club, explained that
Country Club Drive was a private drive.
Mr. Rudasill stated they were in the process of working out an agreement.
Ms. Little stated there had been several conversations since the Plat Review meeting
as to the need for that area to be dedicated public access in order for the drive to
be considered for access to the subdivision. She explained that was a condition of
approval of the subdivision.
Mr. McCord explained the developer would have to obtain an easement from the
Country Club which would have to be approved by the Board of Directors.
Ms. Little stated it appeared the access easement was partially on the subject
property and partially on the country club property.
Mr. Rudasill stated that was correct.
Mr. Conklin stated the developer was planning to put sidewalks on both sides of the
streets but was requesting they be set back only one foot rather than four feet due
to the grade.
Ms. Little advised Planning Staff did look favorably upon granting the waiver. She
also pointed out there were still some lots without dimensions shown on the plat.
• Mr. Norbash stated they needed a complete drainage and grading plan for the
project.
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Mr. Rudasill explained that, due to the slopes on the hill, the development would not.
greatly increase the run-off . He stated water was leaving that ground rapidly at the
present time. He stated they would be discharging into the gullies.
Mr. Reynolds stated there was a drainage problem at the present time.
Ms. Little advised the city also required an individual grading permit on any lot with
a grade over 20% before issuing a building permit.
Mr. Conklin advised the development calculated at 2.6 lots per acre so it was well
within the density allowed.
Ms. Jeanette Summers expressed concern regarding access to the property. She
stated there was only one access and they already had a traffic problem. She also
noted there was no emergency access except the one access used by all of the
residents.
Mr. Allred stated there was a provision for future expansion which would give
additional access.
Ms. Summers stated there was already a crime problem and more accesses would make
the residents more vulnerable to crime. She also advised she was concerned
regarding the lot size. She stated most of the existing lots were 1 acre or larger.
She asked that the lots in the new development be one acre or larger.
Mr. Allred stated the city could not require the developer to have larger lots if the
lots met the city regulations.
Another resident pointed out there would be at least 100 cars a day going into the
development.
In response to a question from an audience member, Mr. Allred explained there were
plans for expansion of the roadways.
Mr. Rudasill stated there would be a stub out at the end of Country Club Drive
which could be extended at some time in the future.
Ms Summers asked what they would do with the addition traffic until Country Club
Drive was extended.
Mr. Bill Lash asked about the water supply.
Mr. Allred explained there would be a complete study made.
Mr. Norbash stated the engineering department was very concerned and would look
into water pressure, etc.
In response to a question from the audience, Ms. Little explained it was the
responsibility of the developer to provide all required services for his development.
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Mr. Reynolds asked if they were going to have covenants.
Ms. Wright stated they would have covenants.
Ms. Leanne Richards advised there was already a problem with water pressure. She
explained that if the developer only was concerned with the subject development, it
would affect their water pressure. She also noted the access was very narrow and
not well maintained.
Ms. Little stated her comment was well taken and recommended Ms. Richards contact
the Public Works Department. She told her of a street committee meeting on July 22
at 7:00 p.m. in room 326. She stated four of the council members were serving on
a special committee to hear about which streets required additional improvements and
to prioritize those streets as a portion of the C.I.P.
Mr. McCord stated that, on the issue of lot size, the Planning Commission had
previously denied a subdivision based on lot size and there was also case law allowing
disapproval of a subdivision based on lot size.
Mr. Allred stated there were other factors involved in the disapproval of the
subdivision referred to by Mr. McCord.
Other members of the audience told of water pressure problems.
Mr. Norbash stated they were in the process of reviewing the water pressure in the
area.
Ms. Little advised there were also two storage tanks on Kessler Mountain. She
pointed out the 36 -inch water line was also in process.
Mr. Norbash stated that did not necessarily mean it would help this area. He stated
the Engineering Department would look at the entire system, as far as the usage, the
projection for the future and see what impact the subject subdivision would have on
the system. He further stated they would also determine if it needed to be improved
at the pump station (larger pumps, larger lines, etc.) . He stated that, if the system
needed to be upgraded, the cost would be pro rated for the developer.
Mr. Allred asked for an update at the Planning Commission meeting.
In response to a question from Mr. Reynolds, Ms. Wright advised this subdivision
would have similar covenants to her other developments. She stated the houses
would be 2,000 square feet minimum with no overnight parking, no chain link
fencing, etc.
Mr. Rudasill stated the actual platted lots existing in the area at the present time
were 1/2 acre or less. He further stated several of the property owners had
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purchased one or more lots. He pointed out the lots in the proposed subdivision
ranged from 1/2 an acre to just below 1/3 of an acre.
Mr. Allred asked how much land remained on the hillside for future development.
Ms. Little stated there was still land to the north and east of the subject property.
MOTION
Mr. Reynolds stated he had a problem with the development but he moved to forward
the plat to the full Planning Commission with staff comments and further review,
including the drainage plan being submitted, the water pressure test, and access
to the property.
There was further discussion regarding access to the property.
Mr. Allred stated that dedicated right-of-way to the property would be a condition
of approval of the subdivision. He explained that, if an agreement could not be
reached with the Country Club, the developer would have to find some other.
ingress/egress.
One member of the audience asked if the Planning Commission was expected to
approve or disapprove the plat before the problem of access was resolved.
Mr. Reynolds explained they were recommending that issue be resolved before it
went to the Planning Commission meeting.
Mr. Allred stated the subdivision could be considered without the issue being
resolved but he did not know if they would act on it.
Ms. Little explained the requirement for approval of a subdivision was a dedicated
right-of-way and it could not be approved until there was such right-of-way.
Mr. Allred seconded the motion.
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LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - NORTH HILLS CENTER
PARTNERS AND ASSOCIATES - N OF FUTRALL, E OF NORTH HILLS BLVD.
The next item was a large scale development for North Hills Center presented by Al
Harris, Northwest Engineers, on behalf of Partners and Associates for property
located north of Futrall, east of North Hills Boulevard. The property is zoned C-2,
Thoroughfare Commercial, and contains 5.0 acres.
Mr. Conklin requested the vicinity map show more detail.
Mr. Allred asked if this development would have the same architectural integrity as
North Hills.
Mr. Harris stated that was his impression.
Ms. Little stated the original North Hills covenants covered this tract.
Mr. Conklin requested the legal description be placed on the plat together with the
names of the adjacent property owners. He advised there would be a five foot right-
of-way dedication which needed to be recorded by separate instrument. He also
noted the sidewalk would need to be five feet wide, set back four feet from Futrall.
He also noted there had been a discussion regarding parking lot setbacks but the
developer had redesigned the parking lot to meet those requirements. He further
stated the developer would need to submit a tree preservation plan.
Mr. Allred asked why the development was exceeding the required parking. He
stated he would rather have landscaping than parking.
Mr. Conklin stated Tom Campbell had believed they would need more parking than
that required by the city.
Mr. Harris stated there was a possibility of dividing the tract into four separate
retail establishments.
Ms. Little advised that, if the property were divided into four separate lots, they
would have to go through the subdivision process. She also suggested the
furthermost eastern parking lot could be deferred to future development should it
become necessary. She stated the plat was still showing 2 signs. She explained
that, if there were separate lots, they could have a sign for each lot but, if it was
all one lot, they were allowed only one free standing sign.
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Mr. Reynolds moved to forward the large scale to the Planning Commission subject
to staff comments.
Mr. Allred seconded the motion.
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SIDEWALK WAIVER
NORTHWEST NURSING CENTER - W OF APPLEBY, N OF BISHOP
The last item was a request from Northwest Nursing Center for a sidewalk waiver for
property located on the west side of Appleby, north of Bishop, presented by Jesse
White, Administrator.
Mr. White explained there had been a communication problem. He advised the
minutes of the plat review meeting had never been seen by the architect. He also
noted a portion of the lot had a very steep slope and would wash out. He presented
a different design for the sidewalk, cutting across the lot.
MOTION
Mr. Reynolds moved that the revised sidewalk be adopted.
Mr. Allred seconded the motion.
The meeting adjourned at 11:55 a.m.
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