HomeMy WebLinkAbout1992-01-16 - MinutesMINUTES OF A SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING
A meeting of the Fayetteville Subdivision Committee was held on
Thursday, January 16, 1992 at 10:30 a.m., in Room 111 of the City
Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Charles Nickle and Joe Tarvin
OTHERS PRESENT:
Martin C. Florie, Dave Jorgensen,
James Key, Leonard Gabbard, Sid
Norbash, and Sharon Langley
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - ALDI'S, INC.
MARTIN C. FLORIE - SW CORNER OF APPLEBY & COLLEGE
The first item on the agenda was review of a Large Scale
Development for Aldi's, Inc. (a grocery store) requested by Martin
C. Florie on behalf of Aldi's, for property located on the
southwest corner of Appleby and College. The property is zoned C-2
and contains 2.49 acres.
Mr. Nickle asked if staff had checked the parking requirements.
Ms. Langley stated the parking had been reviewed and they had
excess parking.
Mr. Florie stated Aldi's requirement was 120 parking spaces. He
pointed out this site had 121 spaces.
In response to a question from Mr. Tarvin, Mr. Florie stated that
basically all of the stores were the same size.
Mr. Nickle asked if they were proposing to do any landscaping on
the site.
Mr. Florie stated they were showing only sod but, at the Plat
Review meeting, landscaping had been discussed. He explained Perry
Franklin had indicated he would rather not have shrubbery, etc.
within 25 feet of the entrance/exit due to visibility problems.
Mr. Tarvin suggested they could do some landscaping behind the curb
without causing sight problems.
Mr. Nickle agreed that, after construction, some landscaping could
be done closer to the parking area. He asked what type of lighting
they planned to use.
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Mr. Florie stated there would be a couple of poles in the middle of
the parking lot. He further stated they planned to have metal
halon lighting.
There was also discussion regarding grading notations on the plat.
Mr. Florie stated a grading plan would be submitted to the City
Engineer's office prior to the Planning Commission meeting.
In response to a question from Mr. Tarvin, Mr. Florie stated the
parking area would be concrete.
Ms. Langley explained the fire chief had been unable to attend the
plat review meeting and therefore had forwarded written comments to
this meeting. She read Mr. Jackson's comments, as follows: "This
occupancy is not required to be sprinkled by our building code.
However, we should recommend to the developers that they do their
own checking to determine if sprinklers would be desirable from an
insurance premium standpoint. If not, it's their call, but the
nature of this type of occupancy lends itself to large loss fires.
We have no other comments regarding this proposal."
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MOTION
Mr. Tarvin moved to approve the large scale development subject to
comments received at this meeting and those received at the plat
review meeting for submission to the Planning Commission.
Mr. Nickle seconded the motion.
CONCEPT PLAT - PARK PLACE MASTER PLAN
DAVE JORGENSEN - S OF MISSION, W OF CROSSOVER
The next item was a concept plat for Park Place Subdivision Master
Plan presented by Dave Jorgensen on behalf of Jim Lindsey. The
property is located south of Mission Boulevard and west of
Crossover Road, zoned R-1, Low Density Residential. The Master
Plan included both those five phases which are completed and three
additional proposed phases.
Mr. Jorgensen explained he had submitted the Master Plan and Phases
6, 7, and 8. He further explained the reason for the Master Plan
was so that everyone could see how the proposed Park Place
development fit in with the existing Park Place Phases and the
proposed development to the south.
Mr. Tarvin asked why there was no connection between the proposed
phases of Park Place and the existing phases.
• Mr. Jorgensen explained the residents did not want any other
accesses into the existing phases. He pointed out the 50 -foot
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utility and access easement on Phase 8. He further explained that
Phase 8 had been reviewed by the Planning Commission previously but
they had changed the roadway and therefore, he wanted the Planning
Commission to review it again. He also noted that the Master Plan
had been sent out to all adjoining property owners.
In response to a question from Mr. Nickle, Mr. Jorgensen stated
Phase 8 would be constructed first, since it bordered Highway 265,
and then Phase 6 or 7 would be next. He explained Phase 6 could
not be done until Phase 8 was completed.
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Mr. Tarvin asked how the Foster/Brophy Subdivision tied into the
Park Place Subdivision.
Mr. 'Jorgensen pointed out Foster/Brophy was immediately to the
south and further pointed out the streets would match up. He
stated Phase 1 would be the first phase developed in Foster/Brophy
which would match up to Phase 8.
PRELIMINARY PLAT - PARK PLACE, PHASE 6
DAVE JORGENSEN - W OF MISSION, S OF VICTORIA
The Subcommittee then reviewed Park Place, Phase 6, located south
of Mission Boulevard and west of Crossover Road, containing 11.26
acres with 25 proposed lots, as presented by Dave Jorgensen on
behalf of Jim Lindsey. The property is zoned R-1, Low Density
Residential.
Mr. Jorgensen stated there were basically no changes on Phase 6.
He stated they had added conduit at the request of the utility
companies.
Mr. Nickle asked if the water line came out of Phase 5.
Mr. Jorgensen stated he would have to make a connection out of
Phase 5 because there was a high pressure system. He further
stated that presently he was showing a water line being extended
from Phase 8 into Phase 6 and then into the Foster/Brophy
development. He noted the sewer line came down the hill and tied
into Phase 8 from an existing sewer line. He explained he would be
taking care of the water line at the design stage.
Mr. Nickle stated there had been a lot of discussion regarding
drainage when the Planning Commission heard the Foster/Brophy
Concept Plat.
Mr. Jorgensen explained he had a preliminary drainage plan.
Mr. Nickle asked if the drainage on Foster/Brophy was impacted by
Park Place.
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Mr. Jorgensen stated it was impacted somewhat. He pointed out it
was shown on Phase 8. He showed the Subdivision Committee the
natural drainage path. He further noted they had given extra
utility easements along the drainage path. He also stated there
was a separate 20 foot drainage easement.
In response to a question from Mr. Tarvin, Mr. Jorgensen explained
he had not looked into the detention capability of the lake. He
stated he did not think the lake was for detention as much as it
was a lake to impede flow He stated the intention was to utilize
the detention pond for stormwater. He also explained that the
storm drainage channel adjacent to the Rob Lewis property as noted
on the plat was a very pronounced drainage ditch which they planned
on improving.
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Mr. Norbash expressed concern that there was a master drainage plan
for the entire area. He stated his concern was how each
development affected the other.
Mr. Jorgensen stated it was fortune for him that he also was the
engineer for the project to the south of Park Place and he knew how
it affected the property to the north.
Mr. Nickle recommended that, before any work was begun, a master
storm drainage study be done and submitted to the City Engineer.
Mr. Jorgensen informed the Committee he had done a preliminary
drainage study for the Foster/Brophy Subdivision, dividing the
properties into the various drainage areas. He pointed out there
was an existing 36 inch culvert which might have to be enlarged.
He stated it drained 11 acres. He explained the drainage of each
area. He also pointed out an existing ditch which he stated would
need to be cleaned out and perhaps concreted.
Mr. Jorgensen stated he and the developers had met with the
residents adjoining the Foster/Brophy Subdivision and determined
their concerns dealt with drainage and traffic flow. He expressed
his opinion that they could solve the drainage problem. He further
pointed out various drainage improvements that would be made. He
stated they had given quite a bit of thought on the drainage
problem.
Mr. Jorgensen stated some of the residents did not like the grid
layout of Foster/Brophy Subdivision. He stated there was a
possibility the layout would be changed. He stated they had
decreased the density and made the lots larger, especially along
the southern portion.
410 Mr. Jorgensen also showed the Committee a design for the
intersection into the Foster/Brophy Subdivision on Ridgely. He
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explained he had shown the design to Perry Franklin, Traffic
Division, and he had approved of the design. He further stated the
adjoining residents appeared to be pleased with the intersection.
He also pointed out that, once Park Place was completed, traffic
could flow to the north or the south.
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In response to a question from Ms. Langley, Mr. Jorgensen stated
the Parks Department had contacted him regarding donation of land
in lieu of park fees. He stated they had not yet determined what
land, if any, would be donated.
Mr. Nickle recommended approving the Master Plan and Phases 6, 7
and 8 of Park Place, assuming that adequate drainage was provided
for the entire area.
Ms. Langley stated she would provide a copy of the Fire Chief's
remarks to Mr. Jorgensen.
CONCEPT PLAT - FOSTER/BROPHY SUBDIVISION
DAVE JORGENSEN - S OF HAMMOND, E OF CROSSOVER
Mr. Jorgensen then presented the concept plat of Foster/Brophy
Subdivision on behalf of Mark Foster and Ralph Brophy for property
south of Hammond and east of Crossover.
Mr.• Jorgensen showed the Committee a possible layout of
Foster/Brophy stating the adjoining property owners had believed
this design to be more appealing. He further stated they would be
reducing the development by at least five lots and possibly eight
or nine lots.
In response to a question from Mr. Tarvin, Mr. Jorgensen stated the
development was tree covered and they planned on saving as many as
possible.
Mr. Nickle recommended the subdivision be submitted for approval
subject to the resolving of the drainage concerns.
PRELIMINARY PLAT - FOSTER/BROPHY SUBDIVISION, PHASE 1
DAVE JORGENSEN, S OF HAMMOND, W OF CROSSOVER
Mr. Jorgensen then presented the preliminary plat for Foster/Brophy
Subdivision, Phase 1, on behalf of Mark Foster and Ralph Brophy,
for property located south of Hammond and west of Crossover.
Mr. Jorgensen stated the utility companies had requested minor
changes, which had been completed.
Mr. Nickle stated he had no problems with the plat.
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Mr. Tarvin stated he had noticed in the minutes of the plat review
meeting that Ms. Little had requested the sidewalks be set back
from the curb.
Mr. Jorgensen stated they would be set back. He further stated he
would put that on the plat.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - FAYETTEVILLE CHURCH OF CHRIST
JAMES T. KEY - E OF DEANE SOLOMON, S OF MOORE LANE
The next item was a large scale development for the Fayetteville
Church of Christ presented by James T. Key on behalf of the church
for property located east of Deane Solomon Road and south of Moore
Lane. The property is zoned C-2, Commercial Thoroughfare, and R-2,
Medium Density Residential.
In response to a question from Mr. Tarvin, Mr. Key explained
several of the members of the congregation had purchased 18 small
maple trees that would be planted in the area. He further stated
several members of the congregation had discussed landscaping. He
pointed out there were some islands in the parking area which they
planned to plant some of the trees.
• Mr. Key explained that the landscaping would depend upon where the
36 -inch water line would be located.
Mr. Norbash stated they had determined the water line would not be
across the front of the property and an easement would not be
needed.
Mr. Nickle asked if they would have any area lighting.
Mr. Key stated they would like to have some lighting. He stated
initially they would have lighting from the building and they
planned on contacting the power company regarding further parking
lot lighting.
In response to a question from Mr. Nickle, Mr. Key stated there was
a residence to the south of the subject property.
Mr. Nickle suggested noting the adjoining property owners' names on
the plat.
Mr. Tarvin stated the plat looked good to him.
Mr. Key stated he had changed the plat to show the parking. He
noted they were required to have 28 spaces and they had 38.
In response to a question from Mr. Norbash, Mr. Key stated he did
have copies of their approved perc test.
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LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - REGENCY "7" MOTEL
LEONARD GABBARD - N OF OLD FARMINGTON RD., W OF SHILOH
The final item was a large scale development for Regency "7" Motel
presented by Leonard Gabbard on behalf of Terry Dill for property
north of Old Farmington Road and west of Shiloh. The property is
zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial.
There was discussion regarding the 36 -inch water line. Mr. Norbash
stated he would have to check to see if the water line ran across
the subject property.
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Mr. Gabbard stated he had met the SWEPCO representative, Larry
Winkler, at the property in regard to the overhead electric lines
and guywire. He further stated the dumpster would be moved
approximately 10 feet in order to remove it from the guywire.
Ms. Langley informed Mr. Gabbard the fire chief wanted a fire
hydrant installed at the north entrance to the project, off of
Shiloh Drive. She stated he also wanted each occupant room
separated from the adjacent room by a one-hour rated interior fire
wall. She stated the fire wall needed to go from slab to roof
deck.
It was noted that, due to the size, the motel did not have to
sprinkled.
In response to a question from Mr. Nickle, Mr. Gabbard pointed out
the areas that would contain lighting.
Mr. Nickle asked about the drainage.
Mr. Gabbard stated they had shot contours on the property. He
pointed out the flow paths and noted the water would hit a swale
and drain into the ditch. He stated there was a good drainage
ditch. He stated approximately four acres drained into the ditch.
He also noted the location they proposed to install a culvert.
Mr. Nickle recommended the large scale development be submitted for
approval.
The meeting adjourned at 11:40 a.m.
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