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MINUTES OF A SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING
A meeting of the Fayetteville Subdivision Committee was held on
Wednesday, November 27, 1991 at 10:30 a.m., in Room 111 of the City
Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
Charles Nickle and Jana Britton
Joe Tarvin
Alett Little, Becky Bryant, Sharon
Langley, Jim Beaver, Dave Jorgensen,
and Glenn Sowder
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - ADAMS STREET TOWNHOMES
GLENN SOWDER - S OF ADAMS, W OF GREGG
The first item on the agenda was a request for approval of a large
scale development for Adams Street Townhomes located south of Adams
Street and west of Gregg Street. The subject property is zoned R-
2, Medium Density Residential. Mr. Dave Jorgensen appeared to
represent the owner, Glenn Sowder.
Ms. Britton asked about the parking and suggested orientating the
dumpster in a way to reduce the size of the 'curb cut.
Mr. Jorgensen stated they would lose one parking space following
Ms. Britton's suggestion but they did have excess parking. He
pointed out he had placed the dumpster in the only logical place.
He explained the only other alternative would be to have the
dumpster in the middle of the project which would cause the trash
truck to come into the project. He stated he needed to talk to
Greg Fields of the Solid Waste Department.
Ms. Little stated she would like the dumpster to stay by the street
if it could be worked out.
Mr. Jorgensen stated they would be screening the dumpster on all
four sides with an opening on the street side. He explained he did
not believe the dumpster was a problem because they were willing to
do whatever Mr. Fields wanted.
Mr. Jorgensen explained the north and south units had two -car
garages and the rest of the units had one -car garages, allowing
adequate parking.
There was discussion of maintaining an area on the southeast
portion of the project as a greenspace with a picnic table and
playground for children.
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Mr. Sowder stated he was planning on saving as many of the trees in
the area as was possible. He further explained the remodeling
plans for the existing structures.
Ms. Little presented the plat review committee comments.
Mr. Sowder explained that they could not install firewalls on the
existing structures. He stated they might not be able to connect
the existing structures.
There was discussion regarding the sidewalk. Mr. Jorgensen pointed
out that the street was to be widened at some future date.
Mr. Sowder asked if a greenspace was required between the curb and
sidewalk.
Ms. Little stated the city would like to have one but it was not
required.
Ms. Britton suggested the sidewalk be put in at the right-of-way
line so that it would not have to be removed when the street was
widened.
Mr. Sowder explained that would require him to put in 1,000 yards
of fill in order to build up the surface.
Mr. Beaver stated the widening of the street was not within the 5
year plan.
Mr. Jorgensen suggested that the design and location of a sidewalk
be approved by the city engineer.
Ms. Britton expressed her belief that it was more important that a
curb be poured than the sidewalk. She recommended sending this
item to the Planning Commission without recommendation.
Mr. Nickle agreed, stating they would await recommendations from
staff regarding the sidewalk and resolution of the dumpster
problem.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - STOCKLAND DAY CARE FACILITY
STOCKLAND, STOCKLAND & ARMSTRONG - S OF HAROLD , W OF SHERYL
The next item considered by the Subdivision Committee was a request
for approval of a large scale development for Stockland Day Care
Facility to be located south of Harold and west of Sheryl Streets.
The property is zoned R -O, Residential -Office. Mr. Dave Jorgensen
appeared before the Committee representing Stockland, Stockland and
Armstrong.
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Ms. Little reviewed the comments from the Plat Review meeting.
There was discussion regarding placing an opening in the fence
behind K -Mart in order to access the nearest fire hydrant.
Ms. Britton asked if the fence was now necessary since there was a
change of use on this property. She explained that it had
originally been installed to screen K -Mart from the adjoining
residential property. She stated she believed the City should
notify K -Mart that the fence was no longer necessary.
Ms. Britton also pointed out that the subject property was going to
be difficult to drain. She explained this area had been a wetland
before K -Mart was constructed.
Ms. Little stated the number of parking spaces became more
important if there was a drainage problem.
Mr. Jorgensen explained he had asked the owners why they desired so
much parking. He stated they wanted the extra parking in case the
property was used for something other than a day care facility. He
further stated he had explained to the owners that it would be
better to not build so many parking spaces.
Mr. Nickle asked if the drive needed to be wider than 25 feet in
view of future traffic.
Mr. Jorgensen stated he had talked with Mr. Bunn regarding the
width of the drive. He explained it was a private drive as opposed
to a city street. He further explained they were treating the
property similar to a tandem lot and 25 feet would be the minimum
width allowed.
Mr. Nickle explained his concern was the adjoining undeveloped
property. He stated the roadway could be access to the adjoining
property and then 25 feet would not be wide enough.
Ms. Bryant explained the trend was for down -sizing street widths.
She asked if Mr. Nickle was thinking about a turn lane.
Mr. Jorgensen explained that Dikes, Bassett, Mix would be
developing the property to the south but he did not know what their
plans were.
Mr. Nickle suggested a left turn lane at the entrance to the
property.
Ms. Britton agreed a turn lane would make sense. She stated she
was concerned about the amount of the property that was covered
with pavement.
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In response to a question from Ms. Britton, Mr. Jorgensen explained
the owners would either be using the dumpster at the Southwestern
Bell Telephone Office or have a dumpster at the same site.
Mr. Nickle asked where the sidewalk was to be located since Harold
Street was to be improved.
Mr. Jorgensen stated Mr. Bunn had requested a Bill of Assurance on
the sidewalk until the improvements were made to Harold Street.
There was also discussion regarding the location of the curb and
curb cut.
Mr. Beaver explained that the widening of Harold Street to 31 feet
was scheduled for 1992.
Mr. Nickle suggested the curb cuts needed to be worked out with the
city engineer. He stated that, if there was a variance required to
change the radius, Mr. Jorgensen would have to specifically ask the
Planning Commission for the variance. He further suggested the
city engineer sign off on the plan stating it would fit in with the
widening plans.
Mr. Beaver pointed out that, to have a left turn lane, the street
would have to be 36 feet wide.
It was determined the committee would not make a recommendation on
the large scale development since there were numerous unresolved
items.
CONCEPT PLAT - FOSTER/BROPHY SUBDIVISION
MARK FOSTER/RALPH BROPHY - N OF RIDGELY DR., W OF CROSSOVER
The next item to be reviewed by the Subdivision Committee was a
concept plat for Foster/Brophy Subdivision located north of Ridgely
Drive and west of Crossover Road presented by Dave Jorgensen,
representing Mark Foster and Ralph Brophy. The property is zoned
R-1, consists of 14.20 acres.
Ms. Little presented the plat review committee comments.
Ms. Britton asked if a road between lots 1 and 24 was the logical
place.
Mr. Jorgensen stated he did not believe that was the best route
since the subdivision would open to the north, going into Park
Place Subdivision. He further explained the area designated was
swamp and putting a street in that area might not be a good idea.
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Ms. Britton suggested when the sidewalk was installed that trees be
planted in order to give a psychological slow -down to people
driving through the area.
Mr. Nickle stated he would like to see how this
into Park Place and the surrounding area.
Ms. Little explained there was another phase of
had not been filed with the Planning Division.
subdivision tied
Park Place which
PRELIMINARY PLAT - FOSTER/BROPHY SUBDIVISION, PHASE I
MARK FOSTER/RALPH BROPHY - N OF RIDGELY DR., W OF CROSSOVER
The next item was the presentation of a preliminary plat for the
Foster/Brophy Subdivision, Phase I, for property located north of
Ridgely Drive and west of Crossover Road. The property is zoned R-
1 and Phase I will consist of 26 lots. Dave Jorgensen represented
the owners, Mark Foster and Ralph Brophy.
Ms. Little presented the comments from the plat review meeting.
She asked about a detailed view of the intersection.
Mr. Jorgensen explained the intersection was shown but, since this
was •a preliminary plat and still in the conceptual phase, he had
not shown the intersection in detail.
Ms. Little stated everyone was concerned with how the intersection
lined up.
Ms. Britton asked if there was a possibility of the intersection
coming in shaped like a "T" rather than a "Y".
Mr. Jorgensen stated that was a possibility but they were
restricted by the amount of room they had with the right-of-way.
He stated he normally put an intersection under the category of
detailed plans and that was why there was not a detailed drawing.
He explained this was still in the concept stage.
Mr. Nickle agreed with Ms. Britton that he would prefer the
intersection come into the subdivision differently in order to make
it safer.
Mr. Jorgensen explained he was only seeking approval of the plat
subject to plat review comments and Don Bunn's approval of the
construction plans.
Ms. Britton stated she saw a problem with the intersection.
Mr. Nickle stated he would also like to see how this subdivision
tied in with the other subdivisions in the area. He suggested the
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city engineer and the
intersection.
head of the Traffic Division review the
FINAL PLAT - REPLAT OF LOT 30, ROYAL OAKS SUBDIVISION
E. J. BALL - E OF N. KANTZ LN, OFF KANTZ COVE
The last item for review was a final plat for the Replat of Lot 30
of Royal Oaks Subdivision located east of North Kantz Lane, off of
Kantz Cove. The property is zoned R-1, Low Density Residential
with 4 lots. Mr. Dave Jorgensen represented the owner, E. J. Ball.
Ms. Britton explained they had
plat on this subdivision.
Mr. Jorgensen stated this plat
four smaller lots.
recently approved the preliminary
was to divide one large lot into
Mr. Nickle stated he had no comments other than the city engineer's
statements regarding a contract for the sewer line placing a lien
on some of the lots.
MOTION
• Mr. Nickle moved to approve the plat.
Ms. Britton seconded the motion.
The meeting adjourned at 11:10 a.m.