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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1990-11-29 - Minutes• • • • MINUTES OF THE SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE OF THE FAYETTEVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION A meeting of the Subdivision Committee of the Fayetteville Planning Commission was held on Thursday, November 29, 1990 at 10.30 a.m. in Room 111 ofthe City Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas. MEMBERS PRESENT: MEMBERS ABSENT: OTHERS PRESENT: Charles Nickle and J.E. Springborn Joe Tarvin and Jack Cleghorn Don Bunn, Jeff Staggs, Dave Jorgensen, John Mahaffey, Leslie Howell, and Elaine Cattaneo XPRELIMINARY PLAT OF ZION PLACE SUBDIVISION JOHN LARGENT - OUTSIDE CITY LIMITS(W.C. 87) The first item was a preliminary plat of Zion Place Subdivision submitted by John Largent and represented by Milholland Engineers for property located outside city limits(W.C. 87). The property contains 80 acres with 16 proposed lots. Jeff Staggs of Milholland Engineers was present at the meeting. Vice -Chair Springborn stated that there didn't seem to be any problems with this development at the Plat Review meeting. Commissioner Nickle stated that he had noted that there isn't a fire hydrant located anywhere near this. Mr. Staggs stated that Mr. Milholland had suggested to the owner that a fire hydrant be put in. Archie Knight, who owns property north of the subject property, stated that he is concerned about whether or not his property would be taken in to Fayetteville or Springdale City Limits. Mr. Bunn advised that this subdivision is partly in the Fayetteville growth area, but the property to the north isn't. He added that the approval of this doesn't mean anything as far as what the City of Fayetteville will eventually take in to the City Limits. He noted that the City of Fayetteville doesn't have any claim on property north of this subdivision. The property to the east is partly in the growth area. He added that the City of Fayetteville doesn't have any plans as a part of this development to annex anything. Although, there is a future possibility of annexation of the growth area. • Mr. Knight asked if water and a fire hydrant will be put in this development. Mr. Bunn stated that the water will come off of the 36' line on County Road 543. He added that there isn't a city �' I • • Subdivision Committee November 29, 1990 Page 2 requirement that fire hydrants be placed outside the city. He noted that the staff has suggested that putting in a fire hydrant would be advisable. Commissioner Nickle noted that, the Fire Chief had recommended that a 6" water line be put in off of the 36" line for a fire hydrant. Mr. Knight advised that several acres of this land near of the creek is under water each time it rains. He noted that they would need a drainage system for any houses built here. In answer to a question from Mr. Bunn, Mr. Staggs stated that this isn't in the flood plain. Mr. Knight noted that there has been a property dispute over the location of his back property line between his property and the property west of it because of a survey done by Milholland Engineers. Commissioner Nickle advised that the property line dispute that was mentioned wouldn't have any bearing on this proposed development. Mr. McGinty stated that they own property directly to the ea They are also concerned about the drainage problems on • property. Commissioner Nickle stated that it seems the drainage problems to be addressed before any recommendation is made. st. this need Vice -Chairman Springborn agreed that they would not feel comfortable making a recommendation until the drainage is looked into. He explained that the city growth area is outside the city • limits and is considered a growth area for the City for possible annexation in the future. However, at the present time, there are no plans to take any of that area in. • Mr. Bunn noted that the City isn't planning any annexations of growth area property at this time and have no claims on property lying outside the growth area. Mr. Burge, who owns property close by, was present but didn't have any comments. Commissioner Nickle stated that they will not be making a recommendation to the Planning Commission at this time. Mr. Bunn advised the audience that this plat will be considered at the Planning Commission meeting. Lag • Subdivision Committee November 29, 1990 Page 3 FINAL PLAT OF AARON SUBDIVISION DUB DUNAWAY - NW CORNER OF HUNTSVILLE & CHERRY The second item was a final plat of Aaron Subdivision submitted by Dub Dunaway and represented by Dave Jorgensen of Jorgensen & Associates. The property contains 1.34 acres with five proposed lots and zoned R-1, Low Density Residential. Mr. Jorgensen stated that they first attempted to submit this development as lot splits, but was advised that it would need to be submitted as a subdivision. He added that they would be giving a lien on some of the lots in the amount of the cost of on-site improvements which need to be made if those improvements aren't finished by the time they begin development. • In answer to a question from Commissioner Nickle, Mr. Bunn advised that they will need to provide some surety for the off-site improvements that are required as well. MOTION Commissioner Nickle moved to recommend approval of this final plat • subject to the staff's comments, seconded by Springborn. The motion passed 2-0-0. )(FINAL PLAT OF DOUBLE SPRINGS ESTATES X STEVE & DONNA COMBS - W OF DOUBLE SPS RD, S OF WEDINGTON DR \The third item was a final plat of Double Springs Estates submitted by Milholland Engineers on behalf of Steve & Donna Combs for • property located west of Double Springs Road and south of Wedington Drive. The property is located outside the City Limits and contains 10 acres with four proposed lots. Commissioner Nickle asked if there is a fire hydrant in this area. Mr. Bunn advised that there wasn't and it is the City's policy not to allow fire hydrants to be placed on any water line under 6". MOTION Commissioner Nickle moved to recommend approval of this final plat, seconded by Springborn. The motion passed 2-0-0. PRELIMINARY PLAT OF DOUBLETREE ESTATES LESLIE HOWELL - MT COMFORT RD (W.C. 84) The fourth item was a preliminary plat of Doubletree Estates submitted by Leslie Howell and represented by John Mahaffey of • Mahaffey Engineers or property located on Mt. Comfort Road(W.C. 84) for property containing 23.09 acres with 10 proposed lots. a39 • Subdivision Committee November 29, 1990 Page 4 In answer to a question from Commissioner Nickle, Mr. Mahaffey stated that there is an existing residence on the property. In answer to a question from Vice -Chair Springborn, Mr. Mahaffey advised that they changed the plat to reflect two streets names instead of just one, even though the County had requested that they change it to one name. Elaine Cattaneo, City Planning Secretary, advised that she had spoken with Jim Johnson of the Water Meter Division who had stated that he would prefer two street names. She added that she would check with them to make sure "Doubletree Drive" doesn't duplicate an existing street name. In answer to question from Commissioner Nickle, Mr. Bunn stated that since this in outside the City Limits the City doesn't have the authority to require improvements on the existing street. He advised that this has been approved by the County. He added that the City Limits line is between sections 31 & 32. Mr. Mahaffey advised that the County has approved the preliminary plat and were only waiting on the soil tests which they now have. • Vice -Chairman Springborn advised that as a consequence of the last few Planning Commission meetings, he suggested that they include a provision in their deed restrictions or covenants that no lot splits on these lots could be taken before the Planning Commission. He noted that in some older area of the City Limits where big lots were originally platted, there have been requests before the Planning Commission for lot splits. A lot of neighbors have been concerned about this. The Planning Commission can't consider • contracts(covenants) between individual land owners within a subdivision. However, it might be worded in such a fashion that no one could bring a lot split before the Planning Commission without the approval of the neighbors which would help secure the size of the lots they are proposing now. • Mr. Howell advised that they have already put a provision in the covenants that no lot splits will be allowed. Vice -Chair Springborn advised that provision on its own wouldn't stop someone from bringing a lot split application on these lots before the Planning Commission. Mr. Howell stated that he would consider that idea. Mr. Howell advised that there are some houses being built only about 10' away from the road right-of-way in this area. He noted that he realizes that no building permits are required outside the city, but it seems that there should be a minimum setback from a County Road in the growth area. Mr. Bunn advised that he can control that within his subdivision through the covenants, but he 2Y0 • • •' • Subdivision Committee November 29, 1990 Page 5 should take that problem up with the County because the city doesn't have the power to control it. MOTION Commissioner Nickle moved to recommend approval of the preliminary plat, seconded by Springborn. The motion passed 2-0-0. There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned. a C//