HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-08-09 - MinutesMINUTES OF THE SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE
OF THE FAYETTEVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
A meeting of the Subdivision Committee of the Fayetteville Planning Commission
was held on Wednesday, August 9, 1989 at 11:30 p.m. in Room 111 of the City
Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: J.E. Springborn, Julie Nash and Jack
Cleghorn
MEMBERS ABSENT: J. David Ozment
OTHERS PRESENT: Don Bunn and Elaine Cattaneo
PREL M:NARY PLAT OF GADDY ACRES SUBDIVISION
BOB L. GADDY - S OF WHIPPOORWILL CT, W OF STARR RD
The first item of consideration was the preliminary plat of Gaddy Acres
Subdivision submitted by Jim Lindsey for Bob Gaddy and represented by Doug
Hemingway of Professional Surveyors for property located south of Whippoorwill
Court and west of Starr Road and containing 40.32 acres with 20 proposed lots.
Property is zoned R-1, Low Density Residential.
• Doug Hemingway, representative, stated that they are planning to get their
notifications to the adjoining property owners out today.
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Don Bunn, City Engineer, stated that at Plat Review there was quite a bit of
discussion on the layout. The problem was that there were some illegal tandem
lots on the original plat ( tandem lots behind tandem lots). He added that the
plat has been revised to take care of those problems. There is a total of five
tandem lots within the development which will have to be approved. These
include lots 6, 12, 14, 15 & 16. This is a hillside development with severe
slopes in some areas and all but seven of the lots are wooded. He noted that
they anticipate some problems with controlling erosion as the individual houses
and driveways are constructed. There aren't any regulations in place to control
that at this time. There may also be some problems in putting in utilities, but
utility easements have been designated on all lot lines to facilitate the
installation of the utilities. This type of hillside development is probably
better than trying to wind streets around the top of the hill and offers the
least amount of destruction and problems as far as the City is concerned. The
staff recommendation is to approve this subject to the plans for street,
drainage, water and sewer being approved, the improvement of half of Starr Drive
along the west side and parks fees being paid. There are also special fees
attached to the sewer line that will have to be paid which needs to be noted on
the final plat or whatever plat the individuals are shown when they are looking
at buying the lots. He added that if the developer wants to, he could pay this
up front.
Commissioner Springborn asked what the access is to Lot 17. Mr. Bunn stated
that it will be accessed from Whippoorwill Lane, but it may have to be approved
as a tandem lot to make it legal or some additional property bought there in
order to have the 70' frontage. Commissioner Springborn stated that he couldn't
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see where there was a right-of-way from the street to that lot. Mr. Bunn stated
that it wouldn't be apparent.
Chairman Nash asked if they had submitted a copy of the subdivision covenants.
Mr. Bunn stated that they aren't required to be filed until the final plat.
Chairman Nash noted that there were comments about a cul-de-sac needed at the
end of Whippoorwill Court. Mr. Bunn stated that he didn't make that as a
requirement because that is an existing dead-end street there. They are only
going to access one lot from there. Lot 5 will be required to access from
Starr Drive. Mr. Bunn advised that if it is obvious that some of the designated
easements are not going to be needed at the time of the final plat, the plat can
be corrected at that time.
Chairman Nash asked what the farthest distance would be that someone is going
to have to carry their garbage. Mr. Bunn answered at least 500'. The garbage
will be picked up on the public street and not on the private drives.
Commissioner Springborn stated that he has a little trouble with the access to
all of these lots with only a driveway easement shown coming in from Starr
Drive. Mr. Bunn stated that they are going to need to ask to be able to have
a common drive for lots 5 & 6 which would be placed on the center of the 50'
easement shown. The same thing with lots 14 & 15.
Commissioner Springborn asked the City Engineer to explain again why this layout
is more desirable for hillside development. Mr. Bunn stated that from the
City's standpoint, the drainage is less of a problem for the City than the
maintenance of hillside streets. With the driveways and the lesser widths on
the driveways, it will impact less this way than if it were developed fully as
a standard subdivision. The slope here is about 20% so straight streets are
just not practical because of the grade. Therefore, if a street was put in here
it would have to wind around in order to meet the minimum grade specification.
Chairman Nash stated that it looks like one street wouldn't be as much of a
problem than all of these little drives. She asked how much of this land would
be cleared off. Mr. Hemingway stated that there would be very little clearing,
mostly just where the utility lines and the houses will be.
Commissioner Springborn asked if the developer plans to bring this through as
a P.U.D Mr. Hemingway answered, no, they hadn't considered it. Commissioner
Springborn stated that he would have far less trouble with this if it was a
"true" Planned Unit Development. Mr. Bunn stated that the intent of the P.U.D.
ordinance is to be able to cluster development rather than what they are doing
here (the spreading out of units). He added that he wasn't sure what advantage
a P.U.D. would have in this case.
Chairman Nash stated that she has four reasons that she couldn't approve it as
it is now strictly from a planning standpoint: 1) five and possibly six tandem
lots and the access problems, 2) sanitation problems with carting the garbage
so far, 3) the potential for run-off problems with downhill flooding and 4) the
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cul-de-sac that was suggested at the end of Whippoorwill. She added that she
is concerned about the grading and she isn't sure that 20 dirt drives will be
less than a problem than one paved meandering street.
Mr. Hemingway stated that if the developer has to pay to put in streets, there
will be a lot higher density. Chairman Nash stated that she can certainly
understand financial considerations, but this body isn't really supposed to
consider financial problems. Mr. Hemingway stated that the actual run-off is
going to be more severe with the developer proposing more lots and more
pavement.
Commissioner Cleghorn stated that he looks at this as the lesser of many evils.
He noted that he would rather see this layout than the alternative. He stated
that it either gets to us approving something like this or that area remains
natural.
MOTION
Commissioner Springborn moved to approve the preliminary plat, seconded by
Cleghorn. The motion passed 2-1-0 with Springborn & Cleghorn voting "yes" and
Nash voting "no".
FINAL PLAT OF FIESTA PARK ADDITION, PHASE I
BMP DEVELOPMENT - S OF APPLEBY RD, N OF DRAKE ST
The second item of consideration was the final plat of Fiesta Park Addition,
Phase I submitted by John C. Burckhart for BMP Development and represented by
Harry Gray for property located south of Appleby Road and north of Drake Street
and zoned R-2, Medium Density Residential. The property contains 6.41 acres
with 30 proposed lots.
Chairman Nash stated that there were almost no comments at the Plat Review
Committee on this plat. She asked Mr. Gray if he had comments.
Mr. Gray stated that he needs to show on the plat the sidewalk on Appleby and
a note restricting access to all the lots except 2 & 30 to Fiesta Drive and
Redbud Lane.
Chairman Nash asked if they had any word on a traffic signal there. Mr. Gray
stated that he hadn't heard.
MOTION
Commissioner Cleghorn moved to approve this final plat, seconded by Springborn.
The motion passed 3-0-0.
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LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT PLAN FOR PACK RAT
SCOTT CROOK - LOT 5 OF COLT SQUARE SUB, 2397 GREEN ACRES RD
The third item of consideration was a large scale development plan for Pack Rat
submitted by Scott Crook and represented by Dave Thomas, Architect, for property
located on the southwest corner of Township Road and Green Acres Road and zoned
C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial.
Chairman Nash asked if they had resolved the parking requirement problem that
was brought up by John Merrell, City Planning Director, at the Plat Review
meeting. Mr. Thomas stated that their gross square footage on the plat is a
little misleading. He noted that it is a two-story building and basically what
they did was provide parking spaces for the downstairs retail area. The only
thing that is upstairs is dead storage for seasonal merchandise and for storing
bulky items such as canoes & bicycles. The downstairs floor area is 4,600
square feet and based on the 1/200 square feet requirement, they have provided
23 spaces. He added that even some of the downstairs area is storage.
Chairman Nash stated that she feels that they have a valid point and what they
need to do is ask the Board of Adjustment to waive the number of required
parking spaces.
Commissioner Springborn stated that there is a different•parking-requirement for
warehousing that they might be able to use to figure the storage area.
Chairman Nash asked if they decided to use a dumpster for their trash. Mr.
Crook stated that they are going to share a dumpster with "The Hardware Store"
and it is on a pad and is screened also.
Mr. Thomas asked if the Planning Commission can still approve the plat on the
14th even though they won't have a waiver on the parking requirement yet.
Commissioner Springborn stated that it would be approved subject to that.
Elaine Cattaneo, Planning Secretary, stated that the Board of Adjustment won't
meet again until the third Monday of September because their next scheduled
meeting will be a Special meeting and the next one falls on a holiday.
MOTION
Commissioner Springborn moved to approve this large scale development plan,
seconded by Cleghorn. The motion passed 3-0-0.
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LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF ABERNATHY CLINIC
BRYAN ABERNATHY, M.D. - S OF HUNTSVILLE RD, W OF HAPPY HOLLOW RD
The fourth item of consideration was a large scale development plan of Abernathy
Clinic submitted by Bryan Abernathy, M.D. and represented by Albert Skiles,
Architect, and zoned R-0, Residential -Office.
Chairman Nash asked if they had submitted proof of notification of the adjoining
property owners. Mr. Skiles stated that the doctors had sent out certified
mail. He asked if they need to submit the certified mail slips. The Planning
Secretary stated that they need to submit the green cards.
Chairman Nash asked if they met the parking requirements. Mr. Skiles answered,
yes.
Chairman Nash asked what they had decided about the sprinkler system. Mr.
Skiles stated that it is going to be sprinklered.
Chairman Nash stated that the City Engineer had to leave the meeting, but his
report on this large scale development plan states that the staff recommends
approval subject to the construction of the sidewalk along Huntsville Road, the
dedication of an additional 5' of roadway easement along Huntsville and Plat
Review and Subdivision Committee comments.
MOTION
Commissioner Cleghorn moved to approve the large scale development plan,
seconded by Springborn. The motion passed 3-0-0.
Mr. Skiles asked what was meant by the 5' of additional roadway easement to be
dedicated. Ms. Cattaneo stated that the developer will have to dedicate another
5' of roadway. Mr. Skiles asked if that needs to be shown on the plat. Ms.
Cattaneo stated that it has to be done on a separate document (contract). She
explained that this is for widening of the highway in the future. Mr. Skiles
noted that they will show a sidewalk on Huntsville.
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