HomeMy WebLinkAbout1988-11-09 - MinutesMINUTES OF THE SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE
OF THE FAYETTEVILLE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
A meeting of the Subdivision Committee of the Fayetteville City Planning
Commission was held on Wednesday, November 9, 1988 at 10:30 a.m. in Room 111 of
the City Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Butch Robertson, B.J. Dow and Gerald
Seiff
!EMBERS ABSENT: none
OTHERS PRESENT:
Albert Skiles, Nick Masullo, Mark Foster,
Dennis Becker, Don Dees, Don Bunn and
Elaine Cattaneo
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF OZARK COOPERATIVE WAREHOUSE
NICK MASULLO - N OF OLD FARMINGTON RD, W OF SHILOH DRIVE
The first item of consideration was the Large Scale Development Plan for Ozark
Cooperative Warehouse submitted by Nick Masullo and represented by Albert Skiles
of Albert Skiles Architects. Property is located north of Old Farmington Road
and west of Shiloh Drive containing 12 acres more or less and zoned C-
2,Thoroughfare Commercial.
Dow asked if they had submitted proof of notification to the adjoining property
owners. Mr. Masullo answered, yes, they had sent notification by certified mail.
Elaine Cattaneo, the Planning Secretary, stated that she would check the file to
make sure the Planning Office had received the receipt slips.
Dow asked Don Bunn if they had worked out the problem with the property lines on
this. Mr. Bunn stated that this had been taken care of. Dow asked if they had
set up the sewer line to run along Shiloh Drive. Mr. Skiles advised that they
were obliged to get the water and sewer to the property to the north as a
requirement for buying this property. He noted that they had designated the water
and sewer along the right-of-way along Shiloh Drive on this property not in the
state right-of-way. He added that they were in the process of trying to locate
the property owner of the land that runs along Shiloh Drive east of the proposed
warehouse. He noted that they don't expect a problem because they would have a
free water & sewer line along their property line. Bunn stated that the water &
sewer line looked good as they show it.
Dow stated that a Bill of Assurance was requested for improvement of half of the
street for the length of the frontage on Old Farmington Road. Dow asked if they
were agreeable to that. Mr. Masullo asked what that would entail. Robertson
explained that with a Bill of Assurance signed with the City, the owner would be
required to pay for half of the cost for improving that road along the length of
the frontage of his property at the call of the City. This would include curb &
gutter and widening to City standards. Dow noted that since Shiloh Drive is a
state highway they are not required by the City to pay for improvements on it.
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Seiff asked if they had worked everything out about the signage. Mr. Skiles
stated that they were specific as of yet what signs they wanted. He noted that
he understood that when they get ready to do that, they have to run it through
normal channels to make sure they comply with the Sign Ordinance.
Dow noted that Bunn had stated that the State Highway would have to approve the
culvert size under the driveways on Shiloh Drive. Mr. Skiles stated that the
State Highway Department had already approved the access culverts.
Dow clarified that they were planning to put in a sprinkler system. Mr. Skiles
answered, yes. Dow noted that Mickey Jackson had approved the location of the
fire hydrants.
Bunn advised that Old Farmington Road is a 40' right-of-way. Therefore, they
would be required to dedicate another 5' of right-of-way there on their property
line along the frontage of their property. He added that it would be 25' of
right-of-way on their side of the road and this additional right-of-way should be
shown on the plat when it is filed.
Bunn advised that this plat should be filed at the Court House and it should show
the additional right-of-way dedication. He stated that by filing the plat, they
dedicate the right-of-way and any other easements that they show on there.
MOTION
Robertson moved to approve the Large Scale Development subject to Plat Review
comments, to dedication of an additional 5' right-of-way along the frontage of
Old Farmington Road, to proof of notification to adjoining property owners and to
a Bill of Assurance for improvement of half of the street on Old Farmington Road
on the frontage of this property, seconded by Seiff. The motion to approve
passed 3-0-0.
Mr. Skiles asked when they would need to sign the Bill of Assurance. Dow stated
that would be prepared by the Planning Office and it would be filed after it is
signed. Mr. Skiles asked who is responsible for filing the plat at the Court
House and when should it be filed. Bunn answered that the owner/developer was
responsible for filing the plat and it needed to be filed once everything is set,
not necessarily before construction starts.
PRELIMINARY PLAT OF THE FOSTER ADDITION
MARK FOSTER - WEST END OF MANOR DRIVE, E OF ROCKWOOD TRAIL
The second item of consideration was the preliminary plat of the Foster Addition
(P.U.D.) submitted by Mark Foster and represented by Dennis Becker. Property is
located at the west end of. Manor Drive, east of Rockwood Trail and zoned R-1, Low
• Density Residential, and includes 15 proposed lots.
Dow asked if they had sent out the notifications to the adjoining property
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owners. Mr. Foster stated that the engineer had sent out the notifications. The
Planning Secretary stated that the Planning Office had not received the receipt
slips yet. Dow advised Mr. Foster that they would need to submit the receipt
slips by the date of the Planning Commission.
Dow asked why this was submitted as a P.U.D. Mr. Becker stated that they wanted
to use the Property Owners Association and all of the ramifications and the setup
including the development of the streets that fall under the Planned Unit
Development as opposed to the standard subdivision. The required street widths
dealing with the steep hillside development basically in the proposed ordinance
that they have coming on board, so they don't have to cut more trees off that
site than necessary to provide full subdivision street widths. Becker noted that
they hope to make this a more private, less dense than the normal subdivision or
P.U.D.. Therefore, the standard City requirements are met with a cul-de-sac at
the end of Rockwood. From that cul-de-sac they go into a "Lane" whether it is
the cul-de-sac at the end of Rockwood or Manor. In a degree by degree to
introduce more privacy and less traffic particularly no through traffic in the
sense that there must be a way to get from Rockwood to Highway 265. Knowing the
history of some attempts to connect, there is no connection here. The attempt is
to introduce private streets that propose no through traffic.
Dow asked if they plan to have subdivision covenants that limit the lot size as
Don Bunn had suggested in Plat Review. Mr. Foster answered, yes, they would
specify no lot splits in the covenants. Dow suggested that they put some
restrictions on Lot 6 to make sure that there is no connection through there in
the future. Mr. Foster agreed and stated that they could put something in the
covenants to that affect specifying Lot 6. Dow advised that they might even want
to put a Bill of Assurance on it.
Seiff asked about the length of the cul-de-sacs. Mr. Becker stated that one is
about 300' and the other one is about 400'. Dow stated that this is exceeding
the maximum length of a cul-de-sac according to the ordinances. She asked if
those standards apply in P.U.D.'s. Becker stated that the City has approved
Sunset Woods which has unbelievable lengths on there cul-de-sac. Dow asked Don
Bunn if he or John Merrell would research that question before the Planning
Commission. Bunn answered yes. Seiff stated that if it were not a P.U.D., they
would definitely need a waiver.
Seiff asked
definitely.
development
approach a
everyone to
if there is a reason for the circle, it is really not a cul-de-sac by
Mr. Becker stated that they want to limit the access in the
to the interior lots as much as possible. The idea is to make this
one lot development as much as possible where you don't just invite
pass by. He noted that Hyland Park is a perfect example of a
private lane off of a cul-de-sac.
Dow asked if they had spoken with Wally Brt, Sanitation Superintendent, about the
turning around radius of these cul-de-sacs for his sanitation vehicles. Mr.
Becker stated that the cul-de-sacs meet the City minimum radius requirements.
Bunn stated that the people who live beyond the cul-de-sac will have to bring
there trash cans down to the cul-de-sac for pickup. Bunn suggested that they
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talk to Mr. Brt although he did see the plat and didn't have any comments.
Robertson read from the Plat Review minutes where Bunn stated that the private
drives need to be constructed according to City standards because the garbage
trucks will be traveling them regularly. Bunn stated that he was talking about
the private streets that run from the end of Rockwood Trail into the development
but not the ones that go to each piece of property.
Dow asked if the drainage had been worked out. Mr. Foster stated that they are
still doing surveys and he doesn't know what they have figured out yet. Mr.
Becker stated that as far as draining the property, there are some adequate
drainage easements that will carry the drainage down to the normal drainage to
Highway 265. Bunn stated that the main idea at this point is to make sure that
thy recognize the possible problems with drainage and to make sure that they
protect the property downstream from this development. He noted that they will
approve the detailed drainage plans at some later date.
Dow stated that Andy Reese of Warner Cable had some concern that they may not be
in any dedicated easement at this time. Bunn stated that they apparently have an
existing line through there that they are going to relocate.
Dow asked if they had moved the street light that was shown in the middle of Lot
8 as the SWEPCO representative had suggested. Mr. Foster stated that they had
moved that one. Dow asked if they plan to add another street light or do they
need to ask for a waiver. Mr. Foster stated that they would add another one.
Dow asked if they had complied with the Fire Chief's requirements. Mr. Foster
answered yes. Dow referred to the Plat Review minutes where it stated that the
private drives need to be 22' wide rather than 16' to allow for fire truck
access. Mr. Foster stated that they have it shown as 22' now.
Anthony De Palma, an adjoining property owner, stated that he is concerned about
the covenant to make sure that there is no connection between the two drives.
Dow stated that a Bill of Assurance and a subdivision covenant both would be good
to insure that there would not be a connection.
William Underwood, an adjoining property owner, stated that it is obvious the way
this is laid out that they have no intent of there ever being a connection here.
He noted that he is concerned that twenty years from now someone might decide to
connect them. Dow advised that a Bill of Assurance would stay with the property
for the life of the property and the City can enforce it if it is ever broken.
Bunn advised that the Board of Directors can release a Bill of Assurance if a
property owner requests it.
Mr. Becker stated that they would go on record as of now that they will have a
subdivision covenant to this affect and that within that covenant will be stated
that there is a Bill of Assurance with the City. In this way, there would not be
any chance for private owners to say that they didn't know about the Bill of
Assurance.
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Bunn added that this would guarantee as much as you can guarantee that there
would not be a connection there in the foreseeable future.
Mr. Underwood asked how they would have access to the property at the circle or
cul-de-sac. Mr. Becker stated that each property owner would have to dedicate
the portion of their property that falls inside the cul-de-sac. He noted that
the official end of Rockwood has already been dedicated.
Mr. Becker stated that they would not have a pumping station for the sewer; they
have an agreement to have an easement across the Collier property to get into the
particular manhole.
Mr. De Palma stated that he is concerned with the relocation of the fire station
there on Crossover Road. He noted that it had been brought to his attention that
one way the Fire Department could service that hillside was to have an access
over the hill. He added that he thought if there were Fire Stations relocated to
East Highway 16 and also on Highway 45, they could service these lots within 4 or
5 minutes if the roads are not to steep. He advised that he is interested in
access for fire protection to that hillside.
Bunn stated that it had been established that a connection could not be made
between Rockwood and Manor and they agree with this concept that they are
proposing to eliminate that possibility.
Mr. De Palma stated that he might want an option to come out at that cul-de-sac
at the end of Rockwood Trail. Mr. Becker stated that the cul-de-sac was
dedicated property so all of them that own property on the cul-de-sac would have
access at the cul-de-sac.
MOTION
Robertson moved to approve the preliminary plat of this P.U.D. subject to proof
of notification, a Bill of Assurance that no through street or connecting street
will be allowed in particular through Lot 6, the filing of the subdivision
covenants showing that there intent is to restrict a through street there and
restricting the lot size to the 15 lots that are proposed, and subject to Plat
Review comments, seconded by Seiff. The motion to approve this preliminary plat
passed 3-0-0.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT PLAN OF THE CUMMINGS-STARR APARTMENTS
STEVE CUMMINGS - W OF GREGG AVENUE, ACROSS FROM LAWSON STREET
The third item on the agenda was the large scale development plan of the
Cummings -Starr Apartments submitted by Steve Cummings and represented by Don
Dees. Property located west of Gregg Avenue across and south of Lawson Street
and zoned R-2, Medium Density Residential with 24 units proposed.
• Don Dees stated that he didn't get the exact location of the curb cuts on the
plat. He noted that the notation of the easement for the utility companies on
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the plat states that it is on the "west" side of the property but it should say
"east" Also, there is a 10' right-of-way dedication shown on the plat. He
added that the dimensions of the building are on the plat. He noted that he is
dedicating 35' from the property to the building eaves for the utility easement
along with an additional 10' to the curb (Gregg Avenue). He noted that he failed
to show on the plat that there is an existing sidewalk there along the west side
of Gregg. Bunn stated that the sidewalk should be shown on the plat.
Mr. Dees stated that he has allowed a 25' turn on the east side of the property
from the back side of the parking spaces and 18' between rows of parking spaces
to allow enough room for a fire truck to turn around. He asked whose
responsibility it is to put in
contractor's responsibility. Mr.
120' of the property but they are
plat.
the fire hydrant. Bunn stated that it is the
Dees stated that there is a fire hydrant within
proposing an additional hydrant as shown on the
Seiff asked if he could have the revisions back to them by the Planning
Commission meeting.
Dow asked if the
there are specific
He noted that they
18' between parking rows needs to be wider. Bunn stated that
regulations covering this available in the Planning Office.
would give him a copy of this after the meeting.
Mr. Dees noted that there is a drainage to the west/northwest direction to the
railroad track.
Dow stated that she is concerned about the way the grade on Gregg Avenue is, the
access to this property could cause hazardous traffic conditions. She noted that
since the curb cut is that far north, it shouldn't pose too much of a problem.
Bunn stated that the access shown is the only reasonable access to this property.
Dow asked Don Bunn
street. Bunn stated
preclude Lawson from
MOTION
if the City has any plans for Lawson to become a through
that there are not any plans, even so the extension wouldn't
going through.
Robertson moved to approve this Large Scale Development Plan as submitted subject
to Plat Review comments and to receiving an updated accurate plat of the project
with proper dimensions, seconded by Seiff. The motion to approve passed 3-0-0.
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