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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-09-10 - Minutes• • • MINUTES OF THE SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE OF THE FAYETTEVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION A meeting of the Subdivision Committee of the Fayetteville Planning Commission was held on Thursday ,September 10, 1987 at 3:30 p.m. in Room 111 of the City Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas. MEMBERS PRESENT: Frank Farrish, Stan Green and B.J. Dow MEMBERS ABSENT: NONE PRELIMINARY PLAT - SPRING HOLLOW ESTATES GORDON WILKINS - EAST OF HAROLD AND SOUTH OF STUBBLEFIELD The only item of consideration was a apreliminary plat of Spring Hollow Estates submitted by Gordon Wilkins and represented by Dave Jorgensen of Jorgensen and Associates. Property located east of Harold and south of Stubblefield and zoned R-1, Low Density Residential District and contains 11.91 acres with 25 proposed lots. Dow asked about the "no mans land" question and wanted to know if it was still a legal question. Dave Jorgensen stated that question was more of a problem on the north side of Stubblefield than it was on the south. He said the boundarys..that. he yielded to was a platted survey of the property due west of the proposed subdivision and he also found the existing property corners. He said the owner of the proposed subdivision as well as the adjoining property owner did not have a problem with the survey. Carlisle asked if Don Bunns request for the lot corner on lots 8 and 9 to match the lot corner on on lots 18 and 19. Jorgensen advised that line was not corrected because of an oversight. He said he would add it the revised plat for the Planning Commission meeting. Jorgensed said Wally Brt from the Sanitation Department had requested a 50' radius on the cul-de-sacs. He said at this particular point he had not changed that to reflect the 50' radius mainly because the owner wanted to find out the possibility of some type of compromise. Jorgensen said Wade Bishops cul-de-sacs were 45' in radius and the radius in Park Place was 40' for cul-de-sacs. Farrish felt the 50' was in excess of what was required. He noted the code was 50' for the radius for the ROW for a cul-de-sac, but there would only be 35' of hard surface. Dow felt Carlisle should look into the required 3L' • • Subdivision Committee September 10, 1987 Page 2 radius. Carlisle read from the code book "radius of the ROW on a dead-end street was 50'. Farrish asked what the radius was for the hard surface and Carlisle replied the code book did not say. Farrish advised when Jorgensen revised the plat show not the pavement, but show the street radius ROW. Carlisle advised the sanitation department was receiving some larger trash trucks. Carlisle advised Dave Jorgensen to speak with Wally Brt and find out exactly what he wants. Dow said as far as she could determine all the easements that were requested were shown on the plat. Jorgensen said he showed the sidewalks on the north side of Harold street and to include the full length of Harold street. Jorgensen explained the master plan showed the sidewalk to be located on the south side of Stubblefield and both sides of Old Missouri. He said there was an existing sidewalk on the east side of Old Missouri and he said he could put a sidewalk on the west side, however there was a steep drop off along the edge of Old Missouri road. Carlisle said she would be willing to accept a Bill of Assurance for the sidewalk on Old Missouri road if the Planning Commission would. Jorgensen explainedone of the requirements for the subdivision was to improve the south half of Stubblefield road the entire length. He said that would be a most definate costly item. Jorgensen said he spoke with Mr. Wilkins on this and his first question was how come Wade Bishop did not have to improve the north half. Jorgensen said he spoke with Mel Milholland and he was told Mr. Bishop was required to improve Stubblefield, but had requested a Bill of Assurance for the improvements. Jorgensen then said Mr. Wilkins wanted to know why he could not request a Bill of Assurance for another reason that was more important. Jorgensen said some very drastic changes would have to be made at the intersection of Stubblefield and Old Missouri. For instance the drainage structure would have to be resized and increased in size. He said the vertical alignment would be a major undertaking. Also there is an existing bridge that would have to be widened. Dow thought the City had discussed widening the intersection when Yorktown subdivision was brought through. Carlisle said she did not remember any discussion on that. Carlisle also felt that a Bill of Assurance was not given to Mr. Bishop on the street improvements. She said her last understanding from Mr. Bishop and Mr. Milholland was that they were going to improve the north side of Stubblefield. 411 Jorgensen felt Stubblefield could not be properly widened and improved without some type of overall game plan. �1 • Subdivision Committee September 10, 1987 Page 3 • • Farrish asked if Jorgensen had spoke with the neighbors across the street and Jorgensen replied he had mailed out the standard plat with return receipts requested. Dow asked Jorgensen where he intended to put the sidewalks and Jorgensen replied there would be some green space between the curb and sidewalk. Farrish asked Jorgensen what was his proposal and Jorgensen replied at this particular point Gordon Wilkins was going to request a Bill of Assurance on the improvements for Stubblefield on the north side of his project or until the other side was being improved or to the effect of a master plan. Jorgensen said he could put the sidewalk in on Stubblefield, except if there were drastic changes made to the vertical profile along Stubblefield the sidewalk would be ripped out. Carlisle advised a Bill of Assurance had not been granted to Mr. Bishop and there was a contract on file for a lien on all the property until all improvements were completed. Jorgensen explained on the west end of Yorktown, Stubbelfeild road as it existed was scooped to the north of the. ROW. He said therefore if Bishop put in curb and gutter he would actually have to cut into Stubblefield at that portion. Green felt it did not make any sense to improve Stubblefield right now and he did not see any point to doing patch work. He said the north side would be widened on one part of the street and the south side widened back to the east. He also said this developer as well as Bishop should be required to pay some of the cost to widen Stubblefield, but he was not opposed at all to a Bill of Assurance. Green felt in this particular case it made perfectly good sense to him to exclude bridges from whatever the Planning Commission determines to require on Stubblefield. He said one of the bridges was beyond the entrance to the subdivision. Farrish said he would like to see where Phase II of Yorktown and where the Harold street ingress/egress would align. Jorgensen said he thought they were reasonably close, but at the same time he did not know there was going to be another point of accesss for Yorktown Square. Farrish added if the Commission was not careful they were going to screw up a street that was already screwed up as far as the traffic partern. 1, Subdivision Committee September 10, 1987 Page 4 MOTION Dow moved Planning without a 3-0-0. • • to refer Spring Hollow Commission, seconded recommendation to the Estates Subdivision to the full by Green. The motion to refer full Planning Commission passed