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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1987-08-20 - Minutes• • MINUTES OF THE SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE OF THE FAYETTEVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION A meeting of the Subdivision Committee of the Fayetteville Planning Commission was held on Thursday August 20, 1987 at 3:30 P.M. in Room 111 of the City Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas. MEMBERS PRESENT: Frank Farrish and Stan Green MEMBERS ABSENT: B.J. Dow APPROVAL OF A PRELIMINARY PLAT - QUAIL CREEK WADE BISHOP - SOUTH OF APPLEBY ROAD The first item of consideration was a preliminary plat of Quail Creek submitted by Wade Bishop and represented by Mel Milholland of Milholland Engineers. Property presently zoned A-1 with a rezoning petition pending Planning Commission and Board of Directors approval for R-2, Medium Density Residential District. Property contains 36.7 acres with 102 proposed lots. Farrish advised all easements and crossings requested by the utilities and the Water and Sewer Department were on the revised plat as requested. Farrish asked if the fire hydrant spacing and line size as requested by Mickey Jackson had been accomplished. Milholland advised the developer did not agree with the request from Mickey Jackson and noted 9 hydrants were requested and the plat reflected 9 hydrants. Milholland noted he had met the fire fighting criteria on the proposed subdivision. Farrish asked what the State Fire Code spacing requirement was and Larry Poage of the Fire Department stated fire hydrants were to be 1000' apart and 500' to center. Farrish asked if the proposed design met those regulations and Poage replied "yes". Milholland said there was not a house on the plan that was over 500' from a hydrant. Farrish asked if proof of notification had been submitted to the Planning Office. The clerk advised Mr. Bishop had turned the green cards into the Planning Office with the exception of one. Farrish noted the sidewalks were shown on the plat including the radius of the Culs. Farrish advised the developer proposed to improve both sides of Appleby Road adjacent to the subdivision and not do anything to Drake Street. Farrish asked if Quail Creek had been made one word because there was already a Quail Drive. Mr. Bishop said he spoke with Mr. Osborne later and he said he could leave it two words, but on the water card it would come out as one word. Mr. Bishop said he had no • • Subdivision Committee August 20, 1987 Page 2 objection to that at all. Farrish said in Phase II Whispering Springs was also to long to fit into the system. Milholland advised Mr. Bishop agreed to take the "ing" off of Whispering and have Whisper Springs. Farrish and Green felt Whispering Springs would be fine as shown. Miholland advised the developer agreed to pay the cash in lieu of land for the parks fee. Green felt the proposal by Mr. Bishop to improve both sides of Appleby Road was a good deal. Green advised the developer was requesting 3 waivers, the first being street light spacing. Milholland advised the longest space was between lot 13 and 14 of block 3 which approximately was 400' from Driftwood to the intersection. Green said the maximum length of a dead-end street was 500' and asked why a waiver was requested for the maximum length of a dead-end street. Milholland advised on the original plan there was a dead-end street that was longer than that, but the plan had been changed and culs had been omitted. Green then advised the developer would not need to request a waiver for the maximum length of a dead-end street. Green said the second waiver was to terminate the sidewalk at the east property line of lot 10, block 2 from the west on John Wayne Drive (Cul-de-sac). Milholland advised there was a ditch at the end of lot 10. Farrish advised the sidewalk was not shown on the radius of John Wayne Drive. Milholland said the sidewalk on the radius of John Wayne Drive was left off by error, but would be corrected to reflect the sidewalk around the complete radius of John Wayne Drive. Milholland asked if the City would obtain additional ROW if needed from Mrs. Powell on the north of Appleby Road. Green felt the additional ROW probably would not be needed. Green felt if the additional ROW was needed he would not have a problem for the City to acquire the ROW. MOTION Green moved to recommend approval of the preliminary plat subject to; 1) plat review comments with the exception that the fire hydrants will comply with the State Code rather than what was requested; 2) waiver of street light spacing; 3) add a street light in block 3, between lots 13 & 14; 4) waiver of sidewalk to terminate at the east property line on lot 10, block 2 because of the terrain; 5) extend the sidewalk around the end side of the cul-de-sac at the south end of John Wayne Drive; 6) accept Mr. Bishops proposal for the off-site improvements to Appleby and waive any requirement at all on Drake Street; and 7) specify the • • • Subdivision Committee August 20, 1987 Page 3 Developer would not be responsible for obtaining the additional ROW if needed on the north side of Appleby Road, seconded by Farrish. The motion to recommend passed 2-0-0. LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT PLAN - WEST OF JAMES STREET & SOUTH OF MT. COMFORT - POLARBEK - COLLEGE PARK The second item of consideration was a Large Scale Development Plan submitted by Polarbek and represented by Ervan Wimberly of Northwest Engineers. Property 'zoned R-2, Medium Density Residential District with an area of 9.95 acres and a total of 188 proposed units. Wimberly advised the developer would pay the cash in lieu of the land dedication for the parks fee requirement. Wimberly advised all easements requested by the utilities had been worked out as requested. Farrish asked if proof of notification has been submitted to the Planning Office. Wimberly advised the ad ran in last nights newspaper and the certification from the Times had not been received by his Office. Farrish advised to have the certification submitted to the Planning Office by Monday August 24, 1987. Wimberly advised the developer would install the 5' sidewalk on the south side of Mt. Comfort as requested. He also said the developer was going to widen Mt. Comfort and provide the storm drainage. Green asked if the Developer wanted to do the improvements and Wimberly replied in this case "yes" because it would give a place for the University bus to pull off. He said the proposed apartments was primarily for the University students. Green asked if the developer was willing to do the same on James Street. Wimberly said the asphalt on James stopped approximately 120' short of the property in question. He said the existing James Street was an 18' wide and not in the best of shape. Wimberly said his understanding was to curb, gutter and pave the 120' that did not exist plus overlay all of that portion from that point back to Mt. Comfort and that portion would not be curbed or guttered. Green asked how wide would the new James Street be and Wimberly replied 31'. Wimberly advised the existing water line on Mt. Comfort was not tied into the 24" line at Lewis. He said the fire department would run a flow test to determine if they would need to tie into the Lewis line. Farrish advised if the test was deficient then the developer would have to tie into the Lewis line. Mr. Rhea asked what the flow requirement was and Wimberly replied Subdivision Committee • August 20, 1987 Page 4 approximately 2700 gpm. Wimberly added inside the complex the water line would be looped. Farrish asked if the hydrant requested on Mt. and Wimberly said the developer agreed to Comfort as requested by the Fire Department. the radius on the driveway entrances had accomodate the new large fire truck. Comfort was shown install one at Mt. Wimberly advised been changed to Farrish asked if the special meeting with the developer and Fire Department had taken place. Wimberly advised they met with Mickey Jackson and Larry Poage earlier today. He said the fire department was asking the developer to provide a way of access into each of the areas shown on the plat so they could get the fire apparatus into the court yard and both sides of the building. Wimberly said the owners were not trying to create a fire hazard or fire trap, but the layout was going to make it a bit difficult. Wimberly added the developer did not want to mess up the landscaping with roads for access. Farrish asked if a compromise had been worked out. Mr. Rhea said the last thing Chief Jackson said was if the developer could not get the roads • in that the fire department would just have to live with it. He said the Fire Chiefs main concern was the square footage of the buildings with no 4 -hour fire walls. Mr. Rhea said the square footage, due to the fact that the distance between buildings was in excess of 30 would qualify. Wimberly advised whatever the building inspector dictated, the developer would comply with and that seemed to solve the situation. Wimberly said whatever the building code said to do the developer would comply with. Larry Poage of the fire department felt the access roads were still important. He said all the developer had to do was install 6" of compacted rock formation that would give some base for fire apparatus trucks to pull onto with and 1" or so of top soil to grow grass or whatever. Poage said there was such an incline on the property that access could not be provided at all points, and that this complex was being built on the side of a hill. Poage said the Chief indicated a sprinkler system would also be an avenue rather than the access roads. • Farrish asked if the developer and the Fire Department were planning on another meeting before the Planning Commission meeting on Monday night. Wimberly advised he would get with Freeman Wood first to see where they stand on the buildings and code. He said the buildings would be built in accordance with the Southern Building Code. Wimberly said obviously something would have to be worked out with the fire department. Lewis Malone said the developer would like very much to have an answer at this meeting. He said they had a very tight time frame • • Subdivision Committee August 20, 1987 Page 5 to start and asked if the motion could be made conditional to the developer working out the access problem with the fire department. Green asked if there were any possible solutions that would satisfy everyone or had everyone just reached a dead-end. Mr. Malone said that had not reached a dead-end, and they just got the facts on the table today. He said the developer knew what the cost of a sprinkler system would be and that would not really be a good pay back, but the developer was going to look at the sprinkling system a little deeper. He said the developer would also like to meet with Mr. Freeman Wood and find out about the fire walls and see if there was a fire wall trade-off for sprinklers. Larry Poage submitted a fire code that would be entered into the record. (18.106 access to buildings by fire apparatus) Poage said this was a 3 -story building and the fire department would need to use aerial apparatus equipment at that location. MOTION Green moved to approve the Large Scale Development subject to; 1) plat review comments; 2) off-site improvements to widen Mt. Comfort where it adjoins the property as shown on the plat and on James Street to install a 31' wide street with curb and gutter from where the existing asphalt ends back into their property and resurface James Street to the east without curb and gutter; 3) resolution to the access question between the developer and fire deparment, seconded by Farrish. The motion to approve past 2-0-0. There being no further business the meeting adjourned at 4:50 p.m. 4,4