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MINUTES OF THE SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE
A meeting of the Subdivision Committee of the Fayetteville Planning
Commission was held on Thursday March 5, 1987 at 3:30 p.m. in Room
111 of the City Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street,
Fayetteville, Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Frank Farrish, B.J. Dow and Stan Green
MEMBERS ABSENT: NONE
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - JIM LINDSEY
APPLEBY STREET APARTMENTS PHASE II
The first item of consideration was a Large Scale Development Plan
submitted by Jim Lindsey, property located at Appleby and Gregg Street,
and zoned R-2, Medium Density Residential District.
Lindsey stated the proposed plan was for 108 units that would be part
of Appleby Street Apartments Phase I. He said the plan included a
swimming pool, tennis court, bath house and exercise room. He said
in the process they had excavated the creek and brought the site out
of the flood plain. Linsdey said he had submitted a letter from the
Corps of Engineers to Freeman Wood stating the site was out of the
flood plain.
Carlisle asked if the units would have to be built above the flood
plain.
Lindsey explained Freeman Wood had said there was a word that said
anything adjacent to the flood plain would be built up 2' which our
City had written in the ordinance and not the flood plain hazard people.
Lindsey stated all the additional ROW had been taken off his side
of the street, and before on Appleby I the Commission waived his contri-
bution to gregg street including the sidewalk based on the fact that
he gave the ROW. Lindsey requested the Subdivision Committee follow
through with that same stipulation.
Lindsey stated one other item was that he was in the process of deciding
in conjuction with the Commission in its' total in dealing with how
much of the land he should give away for a park. He said he attended
the Parks Board meeting last monday, and he left the meeting with
the Parks Board saying that they would except 3.82 acres, the 6.74
acres or money in lieu of the land ($18,000). Lindsey stated after
he left the meeting the Parks Board had changed the motion saying
if they could not have the larger tract (6.74 acres) they did not
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want anything.
Lindsey said he was trying to figure out in his mind why the Parks
Board had changed the motion after he left the meeting. Lindsey went
on to say the "big issue" was that a contract was signed between
Mr. Bishop and Mr. Martin. Lindsey said the contract said that Mr. Martin
or successors (Lindsey was, the agent in the deal) would have responsi-
bility in building part of the road. The Parks Board was saying there
was a road block with the City Council in excepting this peice of
land if they had to build the road. Lindsey stated his position was
an appraisal was being done on the land right now, and if the land
appraised to low obviously he would just keep it and go on and build
the road when the time came. If the land appraised high enough that
it could off -set the cost of the road then he would have interest
in giving 24 units up to make that area a real nice park. He said
if it ended up being an unfair arrangement at that time then he would
withdraw and make his payment to the Parks Board for the Green Space
Ordinance.
Carlisle stated Connie Edmonston from the Parks
a slot on the agenda to determine contribution
Lindsey said an appraisal 'would be ready for
the Planning Commission.
Department had requested
of Parks Fee.
the City on Monday for
Farrish stated from what he understood from the Parks Board was they
wanted to acquire some land in that vacinity.
Green stated if Lindsey went ahead and gave the 6 acres, if the appraisal
turned out okey, then he would get credit towards the street, and
the only other place he could get credit would be within that quadrant.
Carlisle stated when Apple Street Apartments Phase I went in an agreement
was made that the determination of the contribution of off-site improve-
ments consisting of the addition ROW over and above what would normally
be expected with no additional requirements.
Lindsey said the plat showed 60' of ROW that came off his side rather
than the railroad side.
Dow said the plat review minutes said there should be 7 handicapped
spaces and she saw only 2.
Lindsey explained he added 8 handicapped spaces on the plat.
Dow said the parking behind the units added to the attractivness of
this development.
Carlisle stated proof of notification had been submitted to the Planning
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Office.
Green asked since
would normally be
improvements, and
MOTION
Lindsey gave more ROW for the street than a developer
asked to give the City waived the sidewalk and street
Carlisle replied "yes".
Green moved approval of the Large Scale Development for Appleby Street
Apartments Phase II as presented, subject to: 1) plat review comments
2) with the determination of the additional ROW granted to the City
meeting all requirements for off-site improvements including street
& sidewalk 3) and determination of the Green space requirements, seconded
by Dow and, upon roll call, the motion passed 3-0-0.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - FULTON STANTON
TANDY RESTAURANT SUPPLY - HWY 112 NORTH
The second item of consideration was the Large Scale Development Plan
submitted by Fulton Stanton, and represented by Dave Stanton. Property
located at HWY 112 North and zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial.
Mr. Stanton stated the building would not exceed 15,000 square feet,
and would service the offices, showroom and a parcial warehouse.
Carlisle stated there was some question about this property being
an illegal 4th lot split. She requested a copy of the abstract to
verify that the lot infact was a lot of record.
Carlisle advised after reading the
was not annexed until 1980, and the
tion which meant the property was a
abstract that the lot in question
split was done prior to the annexa -
lot of record.
Dow asked Mr. Stanton if the developer was going to supply a fire
hydrant or sprinkle the building as requested by the fire department.
Mr. Stanton stated they would do one of those two things or maintain
their combustible storage in the Bentonville warehouse.
Dow asked if the asphalt surfacing had been worked out.
Mr. Stanton replied the'developer would comply with the durable dust
free surface.
In answer to a question from Commissioner Dow, Mr. Stanton replied
the bay, loading dock and berth would ne 12 X 25 and clearly marked.
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Dow asked if proof of notification had been submitted.
Mr. Stanton asked Carlisle if she received the bill from the Arkansas
Times. Carlisle replied no she had not and said she would need proof
of notification by March 9, 1987 by 5:00 p.m.
MOTION
Dow moved approval of the Large Scale Development for Tandy Restaurant
Supply subject to: 1) plat review comments; and 2) proof of notification,
seconded by Green. The motion to approve passed 3-0-0.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - BILL GRISSO
CONDO PARKING LOT - RAZORBACK & WALTON
The third item of consideration was the Large Scale Development Plan
submitted by Bill Grisso, and represented by Dave Jorgensen and Dewitt
Smith. Property located at the southwest corner of Walton and Razorback
and zoned R-2, Low Density Residential District. (R-0 zoning classifica-
tion pending Board approval on March 17, 1987).
Dow asked where the grass and trees were that was promised at the
Planning Commission meeting.
Mr. Jorgensen stated the developer was putting up a 6' view obscuring
fence around the parking lot.
Mr. Smith stated some trees would be planted along the west side of
Razorback Road. He said as for the turn onto Walton Street the fence
would become a decorator fence 40' to the west that you could actually
see through, then the 6' fence at that intersection would not obscure
vision. Mr. Smith stated most of the parking lot would be concrete
with tree wells.
Dow asked if the developer was opposed to leaving the west side of
Razorback a green space.
Mr. Grasso stated up to a point he would do what they wanted him to
do, but he was more interested in the lot being attractive than they
were. He said he was spending a lot of money for the fence on Razorback
and he would like as much greenery as he could get.
Dow stated she would prefer not to have concrete on the west side
of Razorback.
Green stated there was no way he was going to vote for this with all
that landscaping stuff. He said there were landscaping requirements
in the ordinance and the developer had complied with that as to the
6' view obscuring fence. Green said there was no way this committee
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could require the developer to do anything other than what the ordinance
requires.
Dow stated the reason she would disagree with that was there was a
fair amount of discussion at the Planning Commission meeting. She
said there were concerns of several Commissioners for the rezoning
recommendation for R-0. She said that parking lot was a questionable
use of R-0 anyway, and felt that several of the members voted on it
with good faith, and she had that good faith. Dow stated if the developer
was agreeable to what she wanted then it was in the City's better
interest.
Green said this was not a questionable use of R-0 according to the
City Attorney. He said there was absolutely no way they could make
up ordinances at they go. Green said at the last Planning Commission
meeting they acted on the rezoning to R-0, and that was all they acted
on.
Green stated if this committee was planning on making their approval
of this contingent upon the developer complying with that request
he would not vote for.
Mr. Grasso said there would be grass in front on Razorback with trees,
and trees would be placed in the islands.
Farrish asked about the two exits from the building.
Mr. Grisso stated there would be a ramp on the southwest corner, and
steps on the northeast corner.
Farrish asked what the plan was for protecting the steps from the
weather.
Mr. Grisso felt an attractive canopy would enhance the looks of things.
Farrish stated if this was approved subject to plat review comments
there would not be choice except to cover those items.
Green stated from what he had heard in the past as for plat review
comments was really for utility comments. He said all the other stuff
would be covered under the building code or zoning.
MOTION
Dow moved approval of the Large Scale Development for the Condo parking
lot subject to: 1) plat review comments; 2) greenspaces along Razorback
road and within the islands of the parking area. The motion died
for a lack of a second.
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Dow stated if Mr. Grisso was willing to do the additional landscaping
then she felt why they could not put the motion subject to.
Green stated if it was voluntary then it was not needed in the motion.
Green said there were parking lots all over Fayetteville that were
a lot bigger than this one that are not landscaped at all, and he
was not about to start landscaping parking lots until the ordinance
changes to require that.
Carlisle stated if the screening requirement was met then she did
not see how this committee could request any additional landscaping
of the developer other than what the code requires.
MOTION
Green moved to approve the Large Scale Development for a condo parking
lot as presented subject to: 1) plat review comments with the exception
of Larry Poages comment which deals with the construction of the building
itself, seconded by Dow. The motion to approve passed 3-0-0.
Mr. Grisso stated he as the developer was planning to plant some trees
on Razorback Road, and planned to plant trees within the 2-11' wide
islands as green space.
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