HomeMy WebLinkAbout1980-02-11 - MinutesMINUTES OF A SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING
A meeting of the Subdivision Committee of the City Planning Commission met
at 4:30 P.M., Monday, February 11, 1980, in the Board of Directors Room, City
Administration Building, Fayetteville, Arkansas,
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Keith Newhouse, Elizabeth Crocker, Newton Hailey, Don
Hunnicutt, and Larry Wood.
MEMBERS ABSENT: None.
OTHERS PRESENT: Bobbie Jones, Michelle Hale, Gordon Houston, and Neal Albright.
The minutes of the January 14, 1980 MINUTES
meeting were approved as mailed.
The first item for discussion HOUSTON PLACE
was the approval of the Concept Plat PUD, Concept Plat
of Houston:Place, A Planned Unit De-- Porter Rd,
velopment, located East of Porter Road
and South of Deane Street; Gordon $ Linda Jo Houston, Owners -Developers. Zoned R-1,
Low Density Residential District. Present to represent were Gordon Houston and Neal
Albright.
Chairman Newhouse stated there were several things brought up at the Plat Review.
Mrs, Jones pointed out they were looking at the concept of this plat and whether or (i
not the Planning Commission would approve the concept.
Chairman Newhouse noted that a concept plat is to furnish the following infor-
mation which he had not received:
1. Topography
2. Public facilities intended to be provided
3. Areas with potential flood problems, wetlands, or any other features pre-
senting development difficulties
4. Unique physical features
5. Nature of surrounding development
6. Nature of proposed development
Mr: Albright said he had furnished copies of the plat to the Planning Office and
couldn't understand why the Committee members had not gotten copies. He did say
that not all the copies had the topo and flood areas shown on them. Mr. Albright
said the flood area is about 50 ft. wide, would have real shallow water, and is a
100 year frequency,
Chairman Newhouse said as far as the total area is concerned he has enough to
qualify as a PUD. Chairman Newhouse asked if the jogging track was a public facility.
Mr. Albright said it was a common facility. Chairman Newhouse asked if there were
any distinctive physical features to the property. Mr. Albright said there were some
trees at the South end but the utility companies asked that they be cleared. Mrs.
Jones said the utility companies now require easements to be cleared by the developer.
Mr. Houston said they wanted to save the trees and that is why he was giving a 50 ft.
utility easement.
Mrs. Crocker said Lots 20 and 21 are some distance from the private road and if
they take the drive across there, they can't count it as common area. She then asked
Mr. Albright how he had computed the common area. Mr, Albright said he had 45% common
area. Mrs. Crocker asked Mr. Albright if he counted the driveways, streets, etc. Mr.
Albright said he did. Mrs. Crocker then pointed out any area such as driveways or
streets or any area less than 25 ft. wide can't be counted as active open space. Mr.
Hailey pointed out that he could only count 50% of the Flood Plain. Mrs. Crocker
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stated if he didn't count these things the common property would be greatly reduced.
Mr. Hailey stated he regarded this as a cul de sac and not as a loop street, there-
fore the maximum density he could get @n a cul de sac) is 40 units. Mr. Albright
contended this to be a loop street. Mr. Hailey said in his opinion a loop street
should have 2 intersections with a public street or streets. Mr. Hailey stated this
was no PUD in any stretch of the imagination. Mr..Hailey said he thought it was a
way to try to get around the refusal of the R-2 rezoning request; arid as far as he
was concerned it is not acceptable as a PUD, it is just a shrunken subdivision.
Mr. Albright stated according to the Ordinance he can have a 14 ft. wide one-way
street or a 24 ft. wide two-way street. Mrs. Crocker pointed out the Ordinance stated
the Planning Commission can vary the street width according to the density. She said
the 14 ft. width was only the minimum street width allowed, but the Planning Commission
can require a wider width. Mr, Houston asked how he could get the right street width.
Mrs. Crocker told him the width of the street should be made to accomodate the people
it serves.
Chairman Newhouse asked where the parking would be. Mr. Houston said the parking
would be on the lots. He said the Ordinance requires 1.5 parking spaces and there
would be single-family•garages for each unit with an extra space for parking on their
own property. Mr. Newhouse asked how he could handle that on Lots 11 and 14.
Mr, Hailey moved to recommend to the Planning Commission that they not consider
it a PUD because it does not show more efficient use of land or public facilities,
there is absolutely no more usable open space through structure grouping and other
design techniques; and, he did not think the property has any natural features to
preserve, Mr.. Albright asked that the Committee be specific in what it wanted not
generalities, Mr. Newhouse stated they didn't have enough figures to see what he had
counted in open space, the flood plain shown on all copies, or the topo. Mr. Houston
stated he thought they had met the requirements of the Ordinance.
Mr. Albright asked how wide they wanted the street. Mrs. Crocker and Mr. Hailey
told him the Committee was not the ones who should design it. Mr. Hailey said he
thought the proposal is a "strung out subdivision" and an attempt to get around what
we have already given approval on,
Mrs. Crocker seconded the motion/which passed 4-0.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 5:05 P.M.