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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1979-04-23 - Minutes• • MINUTES OF A SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING The Subdivision Committee of the City Planning Commission met at 4:30 o'clock P.M., Monday, -April 23, 1979, in the Board of Directors Room, City Administration Building, Fayetteville, Arkansas. MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Keith Newhouse, Elizabeth Crocker, and Bill Kisor. MEMBERS ABSENT: Newton Hailey. OTHERS PRESENT: Bobbie Jones, Larry Wood, Gail Biswell, Frank Blew and Richard Mayes. Chairman Newhouse called the meeting to order. The minutes of the previous meeting of April 9, MINUTES 1979, were approved as mailed. Chairman Newhouse stated that the only item for MAYES OAKWOOD SUBDIVISION consideration was a request by Richard Mayes for (Outside City) approval of the preliminary plat of Mayes Oakwood Sub- Preliminary Plat division located East of Wheeler, Arkansas, and West of Salem Community approximately 11 miles West of the City Limits. Mr. Mayes and surveyor Frank Blew were present to represent. Chairman Newhouse questioned whether a waiver from the County Planning Board had been obtained for the hard surface roads as discussed by Mr. Allen at the Plat Review Committee Meeting. Mr. Mayes replied that a formal waiver had not been obtained, however, he had discussed the matter with Mr. Allen and he stated that Mr. Allen had commented that he was pleased "with what we have planned." A lengthy discussion ensued concerning whether or not the City Planning Commission should require the hard surfacing of the roads even if the County Planning Board would not require same. The Chairman stated several times that he felt the City had already decided to require double chip and oil seals on roads within subdivi- sions in its planning area. Mr. Mayes took the position that the 11 miles of roads leading to his subdivision from the paved road were entirely gravel and he could not see what good hard surfacing the interior subdivision roads would do at this time. He stated several times that he would be willing to put up a bond or whatever the City wanted in order to assure them that he would pave these on- site roads at the time the County paved the off-site roads leading thereto. Beth Crocker stated that she felt a real problem existed with the City and County not sticking to their decision to require hard surfacing of on-site roads within such subdivisions. She stated "we have to start somewhere requiring the roads to be built that we are going to need in the future." She continued, stating "I realize that you may have to drive on a bunch of junk to get there (to the subdivision), but we just have to start somewhere." Mr. Mayes stated that it would cost him about $24,000.00 just to pave a por- tion of the roads and that he could not afford to develop the subdivision if he was going to have to put up that kind of money at the start He stated that if he could first sell off some of the lots and wait a reasonable length of time (perhaps one year) before being required to pave the roads that it would put him in a much better position. Subdivision Committee Meeting April 23, 1979 Page 2 Bill Kisor commented that the City and County had not been requiring paving of interior subdivisionroads in the planning area which were small and contained only a few lots. He noted, however, that this subdivision was quite large consist- ing of about 17 large lots of 11 to 2 acres each. Discussion ensued concerning the comments made at the Plat Review Committee meeting. Chairman Newhouse stated that it appeared that all such requirements had been satisfied (the roads having been renamed and lots redesigned to conform to minimum size, etc.), other than the question concerning hard surfacing of the interior roads. Mr. Blew noted that the new layout of the lots now brought all lots up to the minimum 11 acres for lots without city sewer services if you took into account that the acreages were computed including the land to the centerline of the roadway easements. He noted that the County will not take rights-of-way for roads, only easements, and that they do this in order to be able to assess the entire County for tax purposes. Mr. Mayes stated that at this time he had his roads ready for gravelling since the base material was there naturally and all he now wanted to do was add about 4" of creek gravel thereto. Mr. Blew stated that all the planning area subdivisions that he has been connected with in the past have had to have road- ways approved by the County only. He noted that the County had not been requir- ing hardsurfacing of subdivisions not adjacent to the City Limits or not adjacent to paved county roads. After much discussion concerning possible paving of the roadways, Bill Kisor stated that he would like to see this item tabled until after the discus- sion on off-site improvements scheduled for the Planning Commission meeting dur- ing the next hour. He stated that something at that discussion might come up which would change his mind about whether to require paving of the roads. Other- wise, he said that if the petitioner wanted to go ahead and have this Committee act on his request that he could not vote for anything except hard surface paving at this time. Mr. Mayes stated that he would be agreeable to having his re- quest tabled. Bill Kisor moved to table the item. Beth Crocker seconded the motion, which passed unanimously (3-0). There being no further business to come before the meeting, said meeting adjourned at 5:08 o'clock P.M.