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HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-11-28 - Minutes• MEMBERS MEMBERS OTHERS MINUTES OF A SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING November 28, 1977 3;00 P_ M, Ernest Jacks, Bill Kisor, Jack Ray, Keith Newhouse, Larry Wood. None. PRESENT: ABSENT: PRESENT: Bobbie Jones, Angie Medlock, Peg Anderson, Jim McCord, Bill Lichlyter, Clint Clements, Charles Presley, Neal Albright, and other unidentified persons. Chairman Ernest Jacks called the meeting to order. The first item for discussion was green space in subdivisions. GREEN SPACE Mr. Jacks explained that there is a Community Facilities Plan IN SUBDIVISIONS adopted by the City in 1970. He said this plan will need to be incorporated with the Parks and Recreation. Advisory Board plan. Mr. Jacks explained that there are three kinds of "green space": 1) developable parks and recreational areas; 2) some very desirable green belts and natural areas; 3) undesirable natural areas (undevelopable, flood areas). Jim McCord explained that when this came about the Board of Directors only had in mind a place for parks for recreation purposes. He said you need to deal with two different ordinances, one for park areas and one for preservation of green or open space not suitable for parks. The latter may need to be dealt with in the zoning ordinance. The areas designated for parks should be sold as having limited permitted uses so the buyer will be aware of the need for the park in that area. Ernest Jacks noted that they may be working toward a process for developing parksites and an incentive for open spaces He felt open green space will be a problem to handle. He felt they might be able to allow a greater density as an incentive for providing open space. Peg Anderson felt flood plain areas could be left as open space for children to play in. Bill Kisor noted that these areas would have to be kept mowed and questioned who would maintain them. Ernest Jacks asked Larry Wood if he has had any experience in establishing park districts. Larry Wood said the cities he knows about, have established "neighborhoods" and designed specific park areas in that district and the money collected in lieu of land would have to be used for a park in that "neighborhood". Jim McCord felt they would probably be in a better legal posture if they have the "neighborhood districts": Larry Wood felt this would be an administrative headache. He said the money given in lieu of land would have to be used for the acquisition and development and not for maintenance of the park. Keith Newhouse questioned if it would be possible for them to end up -with a great deal of cash and all the land in a neighborhood developed and have to go out and purchase "park space" Larry Wood said this would be possible. He felt the park plan would need to designate fairly obviously the area to be used for parks. He said you wouldn't really have to pinpoint a certain place but would just note that there is a need for approximately 10 acres of park in a certain neighborhood. Jim McCord said a percentage of area for parks in subdivisions or cash in lieu of land would need to be required. Peg Anderson felt it should be tied in with the number of lots. She felt a larger development should have some type of green space. She also felt cliff areas or other open desirable areas should be counted as applying to the park area. Mr. Jacks asked if they would then still require that developer to either give land or cash in lieu of. Jim McCord asked if they would require payment in lieu of dedication or land in a Planned Unit Development. Mr. Jacks felt they would not. He noted that this is the idea behind a Planned Unit Development. Subdivision Committee Meeting November. 28, 1977 -2- There was some discussion on how to make sure they would maintain the green space in parks. Mr. McCord pointed out that the City could go out and mow the common area and have a lien on the property until the property owners paid for the mowing. If they did not pay, the City could sell the land. Peg Anderson suggested that they make it so that 100 lots or more "shall" build a park and any less than that shall be required to either give money or land. Ernest Jacks pointed out that someone could develop 100 lots on 200 acres, and there would not be as great a need for parks. Mr. Jacks said they need to find out if the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board is willing to sit in on Plat Review meetings and they also need to incorporate the boundaries of the Parks Board maps with the Community Facilities map. The Committee asked Jim McCord to draft some preliminary ordinancesto indicate what might be possible. Larry Wood suggested at some point they may want to involve the school board because there is a joint school and parks committment. He felt they may want to include them in a meeting in order to get a better committment. The Committee agreed to meet again on December 12 at 3:00 P. M. to discuss this further. Keith Newhouse made a motion to approve the minutes as mailed. MINUTES Bill Kisor seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. The first item for consideration was the large ICHIBAN scale development plan for Ichiban located north LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT of the National Guard Armory on Highway 71 South; Willard Robertson, owner. Bill Lichlyter, Lichlyter Construction Company was present to represent. He said there is 80 feet available right-of-way. Mr. Jacks noted that it shows 80 feet right-of-way non -confirmed on the plat. Keith Newhouse made a motion to approve the large scale development with the stipulation that they make sure 80 feet right-of-way has been given on Highway 71 South. Bill Kisor seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. The second item was the revised large scale development plan for Parnell Construction Company located North of Highway 62 and between Buchanan PARNELL CONSTRUCTION CO. Large Scale Development Buchanan Street and Duncan Streets; Jim Gault, developer. The Planning Commission was requested to waive the safety zone for driveway from street intersection on the southwest corner of the property: Clint Clements was present to represent. Mr. Jacks noted that the Planning Commission does need to waive the safety distance from the street intersection for the drive. Bobbie Jones noted that since this is a large scale development, the Planning Commission has the authority to require bringing the abutting streets up to City standards. Mr. Jacks said they did this on the previous submittal. Mr. Jacks felt they should be required to widen Buchanan Avenue from the centerline of the pavement and install curb and gutter. Keith Newhouse agreed. Bill Kisor made a motion to recommend waiving the distance for the driveway safety zone and bring Buchanan Avenue up to City standards for their side of the street. Keith Newhouse seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. The third item for consideration was the approval of the final plat of Mathias Subdivision located south of Township Road and east of Highway 71, Mathias Partnership, developer. Charles Presley was present to represent. MATHIAS SUBDIVISION Final Plat Township Road • • Subdivision Committee Meeting November 28, 1977 -3- Mr. Jacks asked Bobbie Jones if the Plat Review items had been taken care of --putting the street lights in the right-of-way and correct the lot dimensions to agree with the boundary dimensions. Mr. Presley said they had corrected the lot dimensions and would move the street lights into the right-of-way. Bill Kisor made a motion to approve with showing the street lights in the street right- of-way. Jack Ray seconded the motion, which passed unanimously. The last item for discussion was the approval HEATHER RIDGE SUBDIVISION of the preliminary plat of Heather Ridge Preliminary Plat Subdivision located outside the City. Most of the 77.8 acre subdivision is outside the Planning area. Only the east 10 acres in Section 5 are in Fayetteville's Planning Area; Washington County Planning Board asked that the Fayetteville Planning Commission consider waiving their jurisdictional rights on this subdivision. General Bruce Kendall was present representing the County. General Kendall said he had met with the Plat Review Committee and asked if the Planning Commission wished to let the County handle this subdivision. He noted that only three lots, comprising 10 acres, are in the City's planning area. General Kendall said the City may have a representative present when the County Planning Board meets. Bill Kisor made a motion to recommend to the Planning Commission to waive the City's jurisdicition for these lots. Jack Ray seconded the motion. -' Bobbie Jones felt the Planning Commission would have to either have a signature block on the plat waiving their jurisdiction or pass a resolution to be filed in the Court House giving the County jurisdiction. Mr. Jacks felt they should have a signature block on the plat for the Planning Commission secretary to sign. The motion to recommend waiving jurisdiction passed unanimously. The meeting was adjourned at 4:25 P. M.