HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-01-17 - MinutesMINUTES OF A SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING
The Subdivision Committee of the City Planning Commission met at 4:15 P. M., Monday,
January 17, 1977, in the City Manager's Office, City Administration Building, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Ernest Jacks, Bill Kisor, Keith Newhouse, Larry Wood, Jack Ray.
MEMBERS ABSENT: None.
OTHERS PRESENT:
Bobbie Jones, Angie Medlock, John E. Mahaffey, Beverly Tyler, Joe W.
Segers, James Powell, Lewis Jones.
Chairman Ernest Jacks called the meeting to order.
Keith Newhouse made a motion that the minutes of the December 13, 1976
meeting be approved as mailed. Bill Kisor seconded the motion which
was approved unanimously.
MINUTES
Chairman Jacks opened discussion on the feasibility E. H. SONNEMAN
study of a Planned Unit Development on the West side Feasibility Study
of Deane Solomon Road (between the Trailwood Mobile West side of Deane Solomon Rd.
Home Park and the Razorback Golf Course). E. H. Sonneman,
Developer had requested the Planning Commission's feelings prior to undertaking
annexation, rezoning, and engineering. Proposed Plannned Unit Development shows 114
units on 15.96 acres.
No one was present to represent.
Bobbie Jones said she has received a new, corrected survey of the property. Bill Kisor
asked if there is sewer in that area and Bobbie Jones said Otis Watson is working on
sewer for Bird Haven Terrace and if he gets sewer in, they can tie on to it there.
Jack Ray asked about the water. He had thought that a rezoning petition was turned
down in that area because of the water but Larry Wood said it was because of the sewer.
Bobbie Jones said they are proposing a 6 or 8 inch water main stub out there this
spring. Keith Newhouse asked about the sewer lift station. He said they don't seem
to know which would be the best. Chairman Jacks said if they get this through, the
lift station could be discussed later. The utilities will be adequate in the near
future. Bobbie Jones said that without annexing to the City, he cannot hook on to the
sewer and he wants to have some idea if the. Planning Commission will approve the
rezoning to R-1 and the Planned Unit Development before undertaking annexing and
engineering. She mentioned that a Planned Unit Development must comply with the
subdivision regulations. Chairman Jacks asked if someone shouldn't be able to build
a Planned Unit Development as a condominium. Larry Wood said the problem would be
the same as Jim Lindsey got into about a common wall. The only way you can really tie
down the side property line is after they pour the footing and foundation. Otherwise,
they would be off two or three feet in trying to lot .off a parcel.
Chairman Jacks asked Bobbie Jones if someone couldn't put in a Planned Unit Development
without subdividing. Larry Wood said they could, but they must subdivide before
selling individual lots. Chairman Jacks asked if they couldn't wait until he transfers
ownership. Bobbie Jones said he would have to have the Subdivision Committee's
approval before he can get a building permit. Chairman Jacks stated that it seems we
are making it hard for the people by doing this. Larry Wood said he would think temporary
permits or something should be issued until they can actually tie it down.
Chairman Jacks said he would have to make this a subdivision at some point to make
a condominium. We shouldn't require him to do anymore than he has to to build it before
he can sell it.
Chairman Jacks asked the committee members how they felt about the concept of a condominium
in that location. Bobbie Jones stated that Bud Allen, County Planning Administrator
recommended that Mr. Sonnemon annex into the City because of the services they would
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not receive without the annexation. The property would have to be rezoned to R-1
to develop into this many units. Bill Kisor asked if this is a dirt road and Larry
Wood said it is an oil mat.
Bill Kisor made a motion to recommend to the Planning Commission that they approve
this concept for 114 units on 15.96 acres. Keith Newhouse seconded the motion,
which was approved unanimously, by a vote of 4-0.
The second item for discussion was the approval JOE W. SEGERS
of the preliminary plat of Sassafras Row Sassafras Row Addition
Addition located outside the City, North of Final Plat
Highway 45 East and East of Sassafras Road;
Joe W. and Gail T. Segers, Developers.
Joe W. Segers was present to represent.
Bobbie Jones stated that subdivisions outside the City are submitted to the County
first and if they don't approve it, they are to advise the City before it goes to
the Planning Commission.
Chairman Jacks asked if the utility easements are shown for Ozarks Electric, if he
has the right-of-way shown for the existing road; if he has dimensioned Lots 6 and 7,
and if he has the signatures of the adjoining property owners. Mr. Segers said he
had talked with the adjoining property owners, except Mr. Minnifee. but he doesn't
have the signatures yet. He said everything else has been taken care of. Bobbie
Jones confirmed that everything has been done except signatures of adjoining property
owners.
Bobbie Jones asked if they want to treat this as a preliminary or a final plat. The
only improvements in this case are for the road which the County regulates. Water
is existing and only two water yard lines will be ran. Larry Wood said there
shouldn't be any problems with treating it as a final.
Bill Kisor moved to recommend to the Planning Commission that they approve this as a
final plat, contingent upon Mr. Seger's submitting the signatures of all adjoining
property owners. Jack Ray seconded the motion, which was passed unanimously, by a
vote of 4-0.
The third item for discussion was the approval SHELTON ADDITION
of the final plat of the Replat of parts of Final Plat of Replat of Blocks 2 and 3
Blocks 2 and 3, of Shelton Addition, located N. of Hwy. 45 East and East of Shelton
North of Highway 45 East and East of Shelton Road
(outside city); T. Ewing Shelton, Developer.
John E. Mahaffey and Beverly Tyler were present to represent.
Chairman Jacks said they need a 10 -foot easement on the south side of Lots 2 and 3 in
Block 2; a 20 -foot easement on the back side of Lots 3, 4, and 5, Block 2 and this
easement needs to be extended to the right-of-way of Highway 45; Mr. Shelton has
given Ozarks Electric and Warner Cable an easement on the lot between this Replat
and Highway 45. Arkansas Western Gas may need a 10 -foot easement for the Southwest
corner of Lot 2, Block 2.
Mr. Mahaffey said all of these things have been taken care of and he has talked with
Mr. O'Donnell of Arkansas Western Gas and he is supposed to let him know about his
easement. Beverly Tyler, representing Mr. Shelton, said she had talked with Mrs. Tooley,
the owner of Lot 1, and she seemed to think there would not be any problem. Mr.
Mahaffey said Mr. O'Donnell said they could stay in the street if they don't get the
easement. Mr. Mahaffey presented a drawing of the replat using letters instead of
numbers to make it clearer. Bill Kisor asked what they are planning to do about the
water. Mr Mahaffey said they are preparing plans for the water lines to be approved
by the City and State Board of Health. Mr. Bill Parette wanted the perculation tests
approved by the State Board of Health. Bobbie Jones said everything is all right as
far as the Subdivision Committee is concerned.
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Keith Newhouse stated that the only problem is the fire
fire hydrants outside the City and they couldn't put it
anyway.
Keith Newhouse moved to recommend approval of the final
of Blocks 2 and 3, of Shelton Addition, to the Planning
the motion, which was approved unanimously.
The last item for discussion was the request for a
fourth lot split and a conditional use request for
a tandem lot to be heard by the Planning
Commission; submitted by James Powell for property
located north of Maple Street and west of Gray Avenue.
James Powell and Lewis Jones were present to represent.
Chairman Jacks noted that the Planning Office has received a phone call from Mrs.
Charlton, who is concerned about the lack of sewer and is not in favor of a septic
tank. She said his property is below the sewer main and he wouldn't be able to hook
on to the sewer. She also said it would be impossible to develop the west portion of
her property because of the topography unless Lewis Avenue is extended. Larry Wood
stated that there was a question from Gordon McNeil also about the street. There
is a total of 50 feet for utility easements. He said this easement should be made
to read "utility and street" easement. Chairman Jacks asked Lewis Jones if there
would be any objection to changing this to read "street and utility" easement and he
said he didn't think so. Bobbie Jones said Mrs. Charlton is not pushing for a street
but she thought the City should look at some way to get through to the back of the
property. Lewis Jones said a street could be planned up from Sang (from the West).
Chairman Jacks said it seems that this is an ideal lot for the tandem lot ordinance
and should work pretty well. Bobbie Jones said she had mentioned to Mrs. Charlton that
her propety might be developed in the same way but Mrs. Charlton said it would be
impossible to get to the back of her lot from Gray.
James Powell asked if he could build a pond in that area if it has an easement for
a street. Chairman Jacks said he probably could but he would have to be prepared to
lose it. Mr. Jones stated that there is a gas line and a water main both in that
utility easement.
Keith Newhouse moved to approve this tandem lot request with the stipulation that the
easement on the west side -of the lot be changed to read "utility and street" easement.
Bill Kisor seconded the motion.
Bobbie Jones asked if they are going to include a requirement about the sewer and
Chairman Jacks said they really couldn't. Bill Kisor said this would be up to Mr.
Powell. He said we couldn't tell him one way or the other. The Subdivision Committee
agreed that they don't object to one septic tank.
The motion was approved unanimously, by a vote of 4-0.
The meeting was adjourned at 4:50 P. M.
hydrants. They don't put
on a 2 -inch water main
plat of the Replat of parts
Commission. Bill Kisor seconded
JAMES POWELL
Tandem Lot Request
North of Maple and West of Gray
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