HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976-11-08 - MinutesMINUTES OF A SUBDIVISION COMMITTEE MEETING
The Subdivision Committee of the City Planning Commission met at 1:15 P. M.,
Monday, November 8, 1976, in the Board of Directors Room, City Administration
Building, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Ernest Jacks, Bill Kisor, Keith Newhouse, Jack Ray.
MEMBERS ABSENT: Larry Wood
OTHERS PRESENT: David McWethy, Bobbie Jones, Sam Askew, Al Green, L. R. Kirby,
Mr. and Mrs. Harley Brigham, Angie Medlock.
Chairman Ernest Jacks called the meeting to order.
The minutes of the October 26 Subdivision Committee Meeting MINUTES
were approved as mailed.
Chairman Ernest Jacks opened discussion on the Revised BASSETT PLACE
Preliminary Plat of Bassett Place, located East of Highway 71 North G Stearns Rd..
U. S. Highway 71 North and North of Stearns Road Preliminary Plat
Chairman Jacks noted that Wally Brt needs a letter allowing his sanitation
trucks to go in and out on those lots extending in back of other lots, Warner
Cable wants a minimum 25 foot easement instead of the 20 feet on the east side
of lots SA, 6A, 7A, and they need a 20 feet easement on the north side of Ozark
Window. He wanted to know if this had been taken care of. Bobbie Jones said
they still needed to widen that easement on the East side from 20 feet to 25
feet.
Chairman Jacks questioned whether there had been a waiver on the street lights
allowing them to be 330 feet apart. Bobbie Jones said she hadn't received any
notice of this.
Chairman Jacks noted they still need to add the graphic scale, lot dimensions and
right-of-ways. He also asked if this is the first time they have cut Arthur
Skelton off of the Frontage Road. Bobbie Jones said they had cut him off on
the previous preliminary plat. Chairman Jacks said all the Subdivision Committee
could do is to recommend that they give Mr. Skelton access to the Frontage Road.
He said that the problems are the easements on the east side, street lights spacing
waiver to 330 feet, and details to pick up such as lot dimensions, graphic scale,
and written approval for Wally Brt for his trucks. Mr. Newhouse asked about the
jog. Bobbie Jones said the only question is the distance of the jog between inter-
sections. Chairman Yates said he thinks this is not a problem. Bill Kisor said
this is the same as last time and they have already looked at it.
Chairman Jacks said we could approve this with four contingencies: a letter to
Wally Brt for the sanitation trucks, easements on the east side, street light
spacing waived, and lot dimensions need to be straightened out and a graphic
scale.
Bobbie Jones questioned whether they were still showing everything as future
development and Chairman Jacks said they were not.
Bill Kisor asked if the Subdivision Committee might want to include a possible
access for Ozark Window back to Frontage Road. He asked if the Committee should
see if they (Mr. Bassett and Mr. Skelton) can work something out since this is
just the preliminary plat. Keith Newhouse asked if the Committee could suggest
an access. Bill Kisor said that all we can do is suggest it. .Bobbie Jones said
that the original preliminary plat did show some access for Ozark Window. She
said that the original one showed a 35 to 40 foot lot behind Ozark Window. Now
they have moved the intersection with Stearns Road to the east.
Jack Ray asked if Century 21 is located on the same property and Bobbie Jones
said that it is.
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Bill Kisor made a motion that the Committee recommend that the Planning Commission
approve the preliminary plat contingent on: the letter to Wally Btt.permitting
his sanitation trucks entry into Lots SA, 6A, and 7A; the 25 foot easement on the
east side being worked out; the waiver of the street light spacing to 330 feet;
a graphic scale be added; lot dimensions added; and a suggestion that maybe an
access for Ozark Window be worked out. Keith Newhouse seconded the motion, which
was approved unanimously by a vote of 4-0.
Chairman Jacks asked if the Subdivision Com- PERIMETER PLAZA ADDITION
mittee is to approve the final plat of Perimeter U.S. Highway 71 North a Zion Road
Plaza or the Planning Commission. David Final Plat
McWethy said that in the future final plats that
come to the Subdivision Committee need to have deleted the signature blocks where
the City Engineer signs off on the.water and sewer, the Street Department (City
Engineer) signs off on the street, and Mayor and City Clerk approve it, because
it no longer goes to the Board of Directors. The plat will be filed in the Court
House and lots can be sold.. Only after all improvements have been done will the
Board, by separate ordinance, accept the dedication of their street and that is
what the Mayor and City Clerk will sign. In the future final plats will not have
City Clerk's, Mayor's, and water and sewer signatures.
Chairman Jacks asked where we would get water and sewer checks (control) and David
McWethy said the City Engineer will sign a sheet out of his office before the
acceptance of the dedication goes to the Board. This is after the systems are
in the ground and plans and specifications have been approved. Chairman Jacks
asked what they would do if they didn't like the way it was put in and David
McWethy said the City wouldn't accept it.
Chairman Jacks said Larry Wood asked about extending the road through Lot 12.
Bobbie Jones said he is concerned about land locking the property on the South
lying West of the Church. It has access only to Highway 71 by way of Shepard
Lane. The best point of access is where Shepherd -Lane will intersect Frontage
Road. Sheperd Lane might could be extended to the East off Frontage Road and
closed off back to Highway 71. Chairman Jacks asked if the question about the
bond or contract is the Subdivision Committee's business and Bobbie Jones said
it is unless there has been a change in the new ordinance.
Chairman Jacks said they show the street lights off the right-of-way along Zion
Road. Bill Kisor said on his copy they don't show a street light. Bobbie Jones
said we would need a street light between Lots 2 and 3 or Lots 6 and 7.
Jack Ray wanted to know Clayton Powell's plans for drainage of the intersection
of Frontage Road and Zion Road. He said they will be hitting the low side of
Zion Road which will cause a problem with ice in the winter and will lead to
deterioration of the road. He asked if the Elks Club owns the property across
Zion Road and Bobbie Jones said either the Elks Club or Jim Blair.
Jack Ray asked if they are going to put storm drainage on the north side of Zion
Road. He said they will not be able to turn the water if they don't. Chairman
Jacks asked if they have repaved that area and Jack Ray said they are in the pro-
cess. He said they will have water coming from all the roads into the intersection
and storm drainage will only take a part of it. The rest of the water will go
across the street. Chairman Jacks suggested the Committee send a note to Clayton
Powell to check this. Jack Ray said it may be that all of this is worked out,
but he did want to mention it.
Bill Kisor made a motion that the Committee recommend that the Planning Commission
approve the Final Plat of Perimeter Plaza on the contingencies that: (1) they add
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a street light along Frontage Road and (2) move the other street lights into
the street right-of-way; (3) have Clayton Powell to look at the storm drainage
at the intersection of Zion Road, and (4) find out whether they want to post a
bond or enter into a contract. Mr. Newhouse asked about the off-site easements
and Chairman Jacks said he thought this was their business.
Jack Ray seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously by a vote of 4-0.
Chairman Jacks opened discussion on the fourth UNIVERSITY BAPTIST CHURCH
item, the large scale development plan of Univer- 315 West Maple
sity Baptist Church to build an educational Large Scale Development
building.
Chairman Jacks asked Bobbie Jones if the parking is sufficient and she said that
the number of spaces shown are sufficient but they have some areas that do not
comply with parking regulations.
Al Green said the Church has written a letter which will be asking for some
adjustments from the Board of Adjustment. Bobbie Jones said the Board of Adjust-
ment had given them a temporary variance in 1973 which has expired. Chairman
Jacks asked if the Board could vary parking and Bobbie Jones said "yes".
Chairman Jacks asked where we stand on eliminating the jog in Maple Street and
Mr. Green said that is not a part of the immediate problem. He said if that ever
comes about, it will be later. Chairman Jacks said the City Manager had just told
him he would like to see getting rid of the jog a part of this issue. Mr Kirby
said the worst that would affect them would be to eliminate one or two of their
parking spaces from the north end of the lot so they are not concerned about
that. Bobbie Jones said it would not do any serious damage to the Church's
proposal or the location of the building.
L. R. Kirby said they don't want to get into any complications at this time. He
said they would like to get started with their building and then they will be
willing to work on the problems of closing Vandeventer and eliminating the jog.
Chairman Jacks asked Bobbie Jones if the setbacks are all right and she said
the setbacks on the buildings are all right, but parking is the only problem.
She said that regarding street right-of-way requirements, this is a revision to
an approved large scale development, and a new submittal would require dedication
of right-of-way as outlined on the list on page four in the Plat Review minutes.
If this were submitted it would have to be waived by the Board of Directors.
Chairman Jacks asked if the Church had considered giving the City additional
right-of-way along Maple and east of Vandeventer and Lafayette. He said the City
is bringing all of Fayetteville up to standards for the Master Street Plan which
means widening an additional ten feet on Maple and five feet on Lafayette and
on West Avenue. Bobbie Jones said on Campbell the City would need an additional
13 1/2 feet. Chairman Jacks asked if they had discussed this within the Church
and Mr. Green said they had not. Chairman Jacks said if we treat this as an
amendment to an old proposal we would not have to have this but if we treat this
as a new proposal we would require it. He said we might like to check with the
City Attorney on this matter. Chairman Jacks asked Bobbie Jones if she had
checked distances on the buildings and Bobbie Jones said she had. Mr. Kirby
said the City will take the right-of-way sooner or later regardless of what they
do. Bobbie Jones said this right-of-way would not affect the building setbacks
but it may affect some parking. Mr. Kirby said their committee would not have
the authority to dedicate the right-of-way but that they could take it up with
the church. Chairman Jacks said they may approve their building contingent upon
that.
Chairman Jacks said they should pursue the question of the jog so it wouldn't
be forgotten. L. R. Kirby said they don't want to slow down their proposed
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building but they are ready to help the City. Mr. Green said he thought
conditional use of off-site parking is what should come before the Planning
Commission. Chairman Jacks said they would refer the Large Scale Development
on to the Planning Commission and try to go ahead and get the Church a building
permit and work out something about the jog. The two questions left have to do
with the right-of-way and the jog, also approval of off-site parking. L. R.
Kirby said they would like for the closing of Vandeventer to go along simultaneously
with__the straightening out of the jog. He said they were previously approached
that way and took the matter up with the deacon body and were in favor of doing
that if the City wanted to. He said that Turner Brown on the south end of
Vandeventer and Lafayette may be concerned. Chairman Jacks said they would take
this Large Scale Development on to the Planning Commission.and instructed Bobbie
Jones to ask City Attorney Jim McCord whether a revised Large Scale Development
plan had to dedicate right-of-way (under the present ordinance) if it was pre-
viously approved under the old ordinance without a requirement to dedicate right-
of-way.
Mr. and Mrs. Harley Brigham were present on a request HARLEY BRIGHAM
for a fourth waiver of Subdivision Regulations, (lot Fox Hunters Road
split) for property located on the South side of Fox Lot Split
Hunters Road, outside the City and inside the Planning Area.
Bobbie Jones said she had not heard from the County but they had no objections to
the first three lot splits. The only thing the County asks is that when the deed
is made up they reserve 30 feet from the center line of the existing road for road
building purposes, either an easement or a right-of-way. Mr. Brigham said he
understood this. He asked whether he made the deed out to the County for the 30
feet. Bobbie Jones said he may either make a separate deed to the County for
the 30 feet or have an easement for the County"in his deed. Mr. Brigham said
he would prefer to deed it on out to the County.
Bill Kisor made a motion to take it on to the Planning Commission with the
recommendation for approval but with the reservation of 30 feet from the center
line of the existing road for road building purposes.
Jack Ray seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously by a vote of 4-0.
The last item was a revision to the DRS. BUCKLEY and HART
Large Scale Development Plan of Drs. • North and Leverett
Buckley and Hart, North and Leverett. Revised Large Scale Development
Larry Smith said they were going to build
a building which would take up the entire site (10-20,000 square feet), and now
what they want to do is build only enough office space for themselves and none
for lease.
Chairman Jacks asked Bobbie Jones if she had checked for parking and setbacks.
She said parking and setbacks are o.k. The major change is the driveway, rather
than the two on the private road going into Skull Creek Apartments, they want
one onto North Street. She also said Wally Brt wants the driveway widened to
thirty (30) feet so his trucks won't break the curb. Wally Brt had said either
location for the trash containers is satisfactory as shown.
Larry Smith said he didn't know what they were planning to do with the other
property --they may want to sell it later.
Bill Kisor moved to approve the revision with 30 foot driveways. Keith
Newhouse seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously, by a vote of 4-0.
Bill Kisor asked what they are going to use for screening on the South end and
Larry Smith said he thought they were going to do quite a bit of landscaping and
planting.
The meeting was adjourned at 2:30 P. M.