HomeMy WebLinkAbout1989-02-20 Minutes• MINUTES OF THE BOARD OF SIGN APPEALS A meeting of the City of Fayetteville Board of Sign Appeals was held on Monday, February 20, 1989 at 3:45 p.m. in Room 111 of the City Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas. MEMBERS PRESENT: Don Mills, Robert Davis, Larry Tompkins, Dee Wright and Dennis Becker MEMBERS ABSENT: Robert Waldren and Gerald Boyd OTHERS PRESENT: Freemen Wood, Jerry Allred, Carl Grimes and Elaine Cattaneo MINUTES The minutes of the regular meeting of December 19, 1988 were approved as distributed. SIGN APPEAL NO SA89-1 - BOYD HARRIS Chairman Mills advised that SA89-1 submitted by Boyd Harris is being postponed until the next meeting because Mr. Harris was unable to attend. • SIGN APPEAL NO. SA88-16 GREER PLAZA - 70 N COLLEGE • The only item of consideration was a request for a Sign Appeal No. SA88-16 submitted by Greer Plaza Property Owner's Association and represented by Jerry Allred and Carl Grimes. Property is located at 70 North College and zoned C-3, Central Commercial. Request was for a variance to the Sign Ordinance (Article 17B, Section 17 B-9). Jerry Allred stated that they have fought for two years since they redid the building, not to put any signs on the building whatsoever. However, it is now affecting the rentability of their office spaces. What they are requesting is a sign directory so that the thirteen tenants that make up Greer Plaza can have some signage out front for location. They are losing tenants because of this situation. They want a small directory in front of the building and they would be willing to offer a Bill of Assurance that there will be no wall signs mounted on the building now or in the future on the sides as well as the front of the building. Due to the location of the building, there is no way to move a sign back. The sign they are asking for would be illuminated for the evening. There is no retail allowed so it is all professional offices. Mr. Becker asked what they thought about the staff's recommendation in the staff report stating that the Board may wish to postpone their decision in order to evaluate the impact of the potential demolition of the old theater building. Mr. Allred stated that it is his understanding that there are no negotiations going • • Board of Sign Appeals February 20, 1989 Page 2 on with the County for that particular property so that building may still be there five or six years from now. Even if it were torn down, it would not enhance the visibility of their building because of the way it is located. Ms. Wright asked if they could use a different size sign. Mr. Allred stated that they would make it as small as they could where you could still see it. They want to stay away from the "Auto Zone" type signage even though they could go to that type of signage if they wanted. That would defeat the many, many thousands of dollars they have spent designing the front of that building. Mr. Davis stated that the "Greer" name is so well known and that is a good address itself in that location. Mr. Allred stated that there problem is that all those small shops enter on that common hallway and can't be seen from outside. They are losing four of their tenants right now; they are saying they need more visibility for their businesses. Mr. Grimes stated that the design of their sign would match the architecture of the windows on the building. Mr. Tompkins stated that no matter what you do, you can't see this sign until you get in the center and use the outside lane coming from the South although it was not bad coming from the North. Mr. Allred stated that if it were a wall sign, it would not be seen at all. Mr. Tompkins added that with the speed of traffic on College Avenue, it is a traffic hazard when they are looking for signs. The type of sign they are wanting could create a problem when people are trying to read the individual names rather than just "70 N College". Mr. Becker stated that he thinks they are in trouble anyway they go. The wall sign could cause a traffic hazard and a vertical sign could cause the same problem with people trying to read the names. He suggested that they go with "Greer Plaza, 70 N. College". There is a basic safety problem with that location. Mr. Grimes stated that their tenants are really pushing them hard on this. They wanted to maintain the integrity and the attractiveness of the building, but they have financial security at stake here. Ms. Wright asked if there would be some sort of consolation to the tenants that if they had a sign like this with the names small enough that it wouldn't be able to be read from the road but they would be appeasing the tenants. It wouldn't create a hazard if from the road they couldn't read it anyway, but they would be forced to decrease the sign size. Chairman Mills stated that she thinks it goes back to the original intent of the Sign Ordinance. Mr. Allred stated that they financially can not resist doing something. If they don't offer their tenants the signage, they are going to lose their tenants which will cause financial hardship. Chairman Mills stated that financial hardship is not a hardship as far as this Board is concerned. Mr. Becker suggested that rather than design it as a sign, they design it as a �1 • Board of Sign Appeals February 20, 1989 Page 3 wall extension which would make it a piece of the wall. Mr. Allred stated that they would probably still need a variance on the setback if they did that. Mr. Wood stated that they do have the option of a projecting sign there, but projecting signs are only allowed at 16 square feet. If they could make it a part of the building, they wouldn't be stuck with the 16 feet because they would have the wall sign requirements. They would have to meet the setbacks for the C- 3 zone. Mr. Grimes stated that as far as attaching it to that to the northwest part of the building, he wouldn't see that as a problem. Chairman Mills advised that they need to determine whether or not they want to grant the sign appeal and then go from there. The Public Hearing was closed and discussion took place among the Board members. Mr. Tompkins stated that he has a concern with safety with this appeal. The address "70 N. College" would be more appropriate. Mr. Davis and Mr. Becker agreed. NOTION Mr. Becker moved to deny the variance, seconded by Tompkins. The motion passed • 5-0-0. OTHER BUSINESS Chairman Mills introduced the new member, Dee Wright. Chairman Mills stated that they would postpone their discussion about criteria for sign appeal until John Merrell could be present and they are still planning to have Ernie Jacks come in and discuss the intent of the Sign Ordinance. ABERNATHY, BRYAN (SA90-12) BABE RUTH BASEBALL LEAGUE (SA92-11). BABE RUTH BASEBALL LEAGUE (SA92-1.1) BASSETT, DAVID (SA90-10) CAR MART (SA88-8) DISCUSSION OF SIGN APPEAL ORDINANCES DISCUSSION OF AMENDMENTS TO SIGN ORDINANCE DISCUSSION REGARDING PROPOSED TREE ORDINANCE DISCUSSION OF 2010 UNIFIED DEVELOPMENT PLAN - VERSION DI'. EMMA'S RESTAURANT (SA90-14) ENTRE' COMPUTER CENTER (SA88=6) ENTRE' COMPUTER CENTER (SA88-6X.. EVELYN HILLS SHOPPING CENTER (SA90-5) EYE CLINIC OF NORTHWEST ARKANSAS FAYETTEVILLE DIAGNOSTIC CLINIC (SA88-11) 117 183. 179: 128` , 175 44 GIBSON, ANDY (SA92-5) 162 GRAY, HARRY (SA92-1) 149 ' GREER PLAZA (SA88-16) 60 HARDEE'S FOOD SYSTEMS (SA88-5) HARRIS, BOYD (SA89-1) HARRIS, BOYD (SA89-1) IBM CORP. (SA88-14) 63 60 IGA AT EVELYN HILLS (SA88-7) 33` JACKSON, LEE (SA90-2) KENTUCKY FRIED CHICKEN (SA88-4) _ KHODABANDEH, MOHSEN (BA92-22) :.176''' LAZFNBY REAL ESTATE CO. (SA88-3) LAZENBY, KEN (SA90-17)` 136` MARKO, JOHN (SA91-2) ,140 MCDONALD'S (SA89-6) 70 MCDONALD'S CORP. (SA88-17) MCDONALD'S (SA92-2) .152 85 MCILROY BANK (SA92-6,7,&8) 164 MCILROY BANK & TRUST (SA88-10) 41 MEASURING OF SIGNS 65 MONTESSORI SCHOOL (SA88-1) 10 MONTGOMERY WARD (SA90-1)a .77 NELMS CHEVROLET (SA89-5) 70 OZARK STAGEWORKS BANNER 129, PEARSON, THOMAS JR. (BA92-15) 7 167. PRESBYTERIAN & DISCIPLES CAMPUS CTR. (SA90-3) 87 RAZORBACK CLEANERS (SA90-7) 96, RAZORBACK EXXON (SA90-8) 101 • RAZORBACK EXXON (SA90-8) 98: REALTY CONCEPTS (SA88-12) 46 REALTY CONCEPTS (SA88-12) 50 REMAX REALTY (SA90-13) 124 RIGGS, RICK (SA91-5) 145 RISK, MARK (SA91-1) 138 • SANDERS, HOWARD (BA92-22) 178 SHEENAN, MIKE PROPOSAL TO AMEND SIGN ORDINANCE 79 STREET NUMBERS 67 • T. J. KWIKIT (SA88-2) 12 T. J. KWIKIT (SA88-2) 16 TACO BELL (SA88-19) 58 THE BERRY PATCH (SA88-9) 38 UNITARIAN -UNIVERSALIST FELLOWSHIP (SA90-16) 132 W. C. FARM BUREAU (SA90-9) 105 W. C. FARM BUREAU (SA90-9) 120 W. C. FARM BUREAU (SA90-9) 127 WALKER, KIRBY (SA91-4) 142 WALMART STORES, INC. (SA92-4) 162 WALTON ARTS CENTER (SA92-3) 156 WALTON ARTS CENTER (SA90-6) 94 4 FAYETTEVI LLE THE CITY OF FAYETTEVILLE. 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