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MINUTES OF A PLAT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A meeting of the Plat Review Committee was held at 9:15 A.M., Thursday,
July 10, 1980, in the Board of Directors Room, City Administration Building,
Fayetteville, Arkansas.
UTILITY REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT: Kenneth Wagner, Dick Shaw, James Crownover.
CITY REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT: Bobbie Jones, Cynthia Stewart, Don Bunn,
Clayton Powell.
OTHERS PRESENT: Gary Carnahan.
The first and only item for consideration
was the Preliminary Plat for the Oakland Meadows
Subdivision, off of State Highway 156, outside
the City Limits, and within the Planning Area.
Gary Carnahan was present to represent.
PRELIMINARY PLAT
OAKLAND MEADOWS
1. General Bruce Kendall (County Planning Board):
Bud Allen (County Planning Administrator): Bobbie Jones had spoken with
both gentlemen and gave a summary of their continents. The County Planning
Board approved this subdivision July 7, 1980, by a vote of (3-1). The
Nay vote was cast in objection to the length of the private roads.
The Board had shown some concern over the length of private drives,
and the joint use of the private drives. They were concerned and felt that
an agreement should be signed by property owners, stating that the lot owner
who has the private drive on his lot would not cut the other lot owner off
from the existing access and a stipulation be made on the plat that the
County would not maintain the private drives.
General Kendall had stated that he did not believe the County would
approve any more subdivisions with long private drives. The County would
require that streets be put in instead.. This results from property owners
demanding the County to improve and maintain private drives.
General Kendall had also indicated that the State would be giving
Highway 156 back to the County to maintain in the near future.
Bobbie Jones stated that the Concept Plat for the Oakland Meadows
Subdivision had been approved by the Planning Commission June 9, 1980. She
stated that the Planning Commission had stipulated that there be a covenant
to the City, on the plat, that no further division of these lots would be
performed without the filing of an approved, Subdivision Plat.
2. John Durham (City Fire Department)- Gave his comments to Bobbie Jones by
phone. He said that since Oakland Meadows Subdivision is outside the City
Limits, there would be a charge for any Fire Department runs. He also
stated that there would be no fire hydrants in the Subdivision.
3. Wally Brt (City Sanitation Superintendent): Also gave his comments by
phone to Bobbie Jones. He stated that there would be no City Sanitation
Service provided to Oakland Meadows as long as it stays outside the City
Limits.
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4. Clayton Powell (City Street Superintendent): Stated that this Subdivision
abuts a State Highway and that State Highway right-of-way requirements will
prevail, but that he was not sure what their right-of-way requirements are.
He stated that the City requirement for a residential street is 50 ft.,
for a collector street the requirement is 60 ft., and the County's requirement
for a local street is 60 ft.
Mr. Powell stated that the State had planned to improve this road from
Highway 45 East going North. He stated that the Highway Department had had
much difficulty getting existing property owners to dedicate the additional
right-of-way, and moving fences.
Powell stated that whatever right-of-way requirement the Highway Department
required should be filed as a separate instrument.
Mr. Powell said there would be a 40 ft. right-of-way dedication on the
South side of Lots 6 through 17. Also, a 40 ft. dedicated right-of-way on the
West side of Lots 3, 4, 5, & 6. He stated that to the North of these lots there
was no annotation of the 40 ft. right-of-way, and that it should be on the
plat.
Mr. Powell acknowledged the 30 ft. right-of-way designated on thejplat
to the North of Lots 1 and 2. He stated that this should be checked to see
if it's adequate for the State Highway Department right-of-way.
Powell stated that as it stands now, permits wouldiihave to be obtained
for the private drives from the District Engineer of the Arkansas Highway
and Transportation Department in Ft. Smith.
Clayton asked that it be annotated on the plat, that private drives,
which are not public dedications, are not eligible for public maintenance
by the State, County, or City.
Powell said that the Planning Commission was not requiring any improvements
on State Highways. He stated, therefore, that he would not recommend any
sidewalks along State Highway 156, or any improvements to Highway 156. He
did not feel the Developer should be required to put sidewalks on the gravel
road.
5. Don Bunn (City Engineer): Stated that there was an existing water line
along the West side of the property which was 2" part of the way going South,
and 3" for the balance of the West boundary. He stated that there was also
an existing 3" water line along the South side of the property.
He stated that the water was available, but that Mr. Carnahan would
have to get with him to figure out the best way to serve the Subdivision.
Bunn stated that there was also a 3" water line along the North side
of Lots 1 and 2.
Bunn said that sewer service is not available.
6. Kenneth Wagner (Arkansas Western Gas Company): Stated that there is an
existing 6", 150 lb., high pressure gas line along the West side of Lots
1, 3, 4, 5, P, 6, on the East side of the road, and continuing directly South
and across the road.
Wagner said that the way the lots are laid out, the Gas Company would
have to extend along the South side of Lots 6, 7 on down to 17. He stated that
easements shown allow the Gas Company to get to Lots 9 and 10 and 14 and 15.
He said that lines would have to be duplicated so that there would be lines
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on both sides of Lots 6, 7, 8, 11, 12, $ 13. Gary Carnahan asked why lots on
both sides could not be served from the same easement down the center of the
Subdivision. Mr. Wagner stated that the reason for the easement on both sides,
was that there was no guarantee where the buyer would build his house, and
the yard line could end up running 500 ft. which he wanted to avoid. Gary
Carnahan asked if the Gas Company would prefer to run the gas line along
Highway 156. Wagner stated that there was an existing gas line about 600 or
700 ft. Southeast of the Subdivision that the Gas Company would like to loop.
Gary Carnahan stated that would make the running distance shorter.
Mr. Wagner stated that on the West side of the property, where the 25 ft
ingress and egress to Lot 3 lay, there is a high pressure gas line, that
would have to be strictly protected.
Bobbie Jones asked if the Gas Company would serve Lot 3 from the high
pressure gas line. Mr. Wagner stated that the Gas Company could serve that
way, but that a special meter guard would have to be installed. Mr. Wagner
stated that if the Developer wants the Gas Company to use the existing easement,
that the Lot could be served from the back.
Wagner stated there is an existing low pressure 30 lb. gas line on the
North side of the County road on the North side of Lots 1 and 2, across the
road.
Wagner stated that the Gas Company could serve all the lots within the
Subdivision.
Carnahan asked if Lots 3, 4, 5 $ 6 could be served from the high pressure
gas line on the West boundary. Mr. Wagner stated that they could.
7. Dick Shaw (Southwestern Bell Telephone Company): Requested a 25 ft. utility
easement along the East side of Lot 17. He stated that this would just about
give the phone company access to the Subdivision. He said that service may
be from Highway 156 where there is an existing underground cable, across the
road on the South side of Highway 156, and that drops would be underground.
But, he would like to wait and see where people plan to build their houses.
Bobbie Jones asked if there was any service on the North side of Lots
1 and 2. Dick Shaw replied that there may be a line there, but he was not
sure. Wagner replied that he thought there was a phone cable in that area.
Dick Shaw stated that if service was desired to Lot 15, and there is an
easement down the East side of Lot 17, the Phone Company can then get an
easement from the owner of Lot 15 if it needs one.
8. James Crownover (Ozarks Electric Cooperative): Stated that as deep as the lots
were, he thought the Electric Company would require some easements up side
lot lines. Gary Carnahan asked if there was service on the Highway. Mr.
Crownover stated that he believed it went up the West side of the road
on the West side of the Subdivision, and from there cut Southerly inlo.the woods.
Mr. Crownover stated that the Electric Company really doesn't have service
into this Subdivision or along its South side.
Gary Carnahan asked Mr. Crownover what his feelings were on overhead
service into the Subdivision. Crownover replied that he had no problem with
serving the Subdivision from overhead, however, with 700 ft deep lots, about
3 poles would have to be set in order to get service to the houses.
Mr. Crownover said that he thought it would serve everyone's purpose to
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bring the service along the front of the Subdivision along the East/West road,
and have the Developer provide an easement on every other lot line to run
service to the back lots. He said that otherwise, the Electric Company
would have to install a tap for each house
Crownover stated that the lots along the North/South road were shallow
enough to bring the line down to between Lots 7 and 8, and run the line behind
the lots at that point.
Mr. Crownover stated that he would like to look at the site and get back
with Mr. Carnahan as far as easements.
Bobbie Jones asked Mr. Carnahan and Mr. Crownover to advise her of exactly
where the easements would be placed after they had reached a decision.
Dick Shaw requested that any easements dedicated to Ozarks Electric
Cooperative be designated "Utility Easements" for use of all utilities.
James Crownover wanted it clarified that the Utility Easement shown
cutting all the way across the Subdivision actually crosses the access easement
to lots 14 and 15.
Clayton suggested that Mr. Carnahan label all lots carefully, in particular,
lot 9, where only the access to the lot had been noted.
9. Bobbie Jones (City Planning Administrator):
A. Asked if Mr. Carnahan had a final survey on this tract Mr Carnahan
replied that he had not. Bobbie stated that some of the lot dimensions do
not add up to the outside dimensions. She stated that the South line was
approximately 12 ft. off and 4 to 5 ft. off in other places throughout
the Subdivision. She stated that she would like the lines clarified further
to show if the dimensions run to the center of the street, or whether they
run to what will be the right-of-way. She said in particular, between
Lots 4 and 5, and, also, between Lots 5 and 6.
B. Bobbie asked Mr. Carnahan if he had brought in his application and fee.
Carnahan replied that he had not.
C. Bobbie stated that on the preliminary plat and also, on the final plat
would be the covenant to the City that any further division of this property
would be by the filing of an approved, Subdivision Plat rather than by
lot split.
D. The final plat will have a full legal description of the tract.
E . The final plat will show proper monumentation.
F. The City of Fayetteville Planning Office will need State Board of Health
approval on the perc data concerning the Subdivision.
G . Note on the plat the location of the Subdivision, and that it lies outside
the City Limits.
H . Gary Carnahan wondered if the 20 ft. topographs were sufficient, rather
than the 5 ft. which is required. Ms. Jones stated the Planning Commission
could waive the requirement in large areas where there is no particular
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problem.
I. County Roads will be numbered and/or named on the plat.
J The plat will indicate whether there are or are not any covenants.
Gary Carnahan asked if this was required at the preliminary plat level.
Bobbie Jones replied that at least an outline of the covenants would
be required.
K. Signature Blocks for the Planning Commission will be required on the
preliminary and final plat.
L. It will be clearly stated on the plat that the 25 ft. and 30 ft.
easements are part of the lots to which they apply, and that they are
private drives. If they are to be used for utility extensions to the
lots, or to any lots, that must be noted also. If a driveway is to
serve several lots, as in the case of Lots 13, 14, 15 and 16, that also
must be spelled out on the plat. Mr. Carnahan said he understood the
County did not want the plat itself to reference any joint driveway
use.
M. It will be noted on the plat that all access easements are private
drives, and that no public body will be responsible for maintaining
them, unless they are approved and constructed as public streets.
Bobbie Jones also asked Gary Carnahan for the State Board of Health approval
of the perc data on the replat of Lewis Estates.
The meeting adjourned at 10:00 A.M.