HomeMy WebLinkAbout1977-11-04 MinutesMINUTES OF A PLAT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A meeting of the Fayetteville Plat Review Committee was held at 9:RO A. M., Thursday,
• November 4, 1977, in the Board of Directors Room, City Administration Building.
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CITY REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT: Bobbie Jones, Angie Medlock, Clayton Powell, Wally Brt,
David McWethy, Bill Boudrey, Don Bunn.
UTILITY REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT: Floyd Hornaday, Clyde Terry, Dick Shaw, John Kehn.
DEVELOPERS and/or ENGINEERS PRESENT: Rick Cowdrey,
Lee Boss, Neal Albright.
The first item for discussion was the preliminary CEDAR CREEK SUBDIVISION
plat of Cedar Creek Subdivision located east of East of Old Wire Road
Old Wire Road and South of Creekwood Hills, Preliminary Plat
West of Winwood Estates, and North of Winwood II
Subdivision, Grady Cowden, Developer.
Rick Cowdrey was present to represent. He said the proposed use is for single-family
residences Mr. Cowdrey said there is a strip of land lying between this subdivision
and Winwood II which this developer does not own. He understood the owner of that
strip plans to divide it up among the owners of the lots in Winwood II. The
utility representatives all agreed that this should also be reserved as utility
easement so that they would not have to run separate lines for each subdivision.
1. Clayton Powell (Street Superintendent): Said they are connecting to the
dedicated portion of Susan Drive. The gravel portion which was not dedicated
has been closed. Clayton Powell felt there should be some connection between
this subdivision and Creekwood Hills (formerly Old Wire Road North), to the
north. He said we do need a better transportation pattern in this area due
to the intensity of the development.
2. David McWethy (Administrative Assistant): Asked for another street light at
the southeast corner of Lot 12, Block 1.
3. Wally Brt (Sanitation Superintendent): Asked if this would be a dedicated
city street and Rick Cowdrey said "yes". He also agreed with Clayton Powell
that he would like to have a street connecting to Creekwood Hills Subdivision.
4. Bill Boudrey (Fire Department): Agreed with Wally Brt and Clayton Powell on
the need for a connecting street.
5. Don Bunn (City Engineer): Sewer is coming from the creek to the west. He
said he is showing a 10 foot separation between the storm sewer and the
sanitary sewer. He also said he would like a 6" water line in case Susan
Drive is ever developed further.
6. Floyd Hornaday (SWEPCO): Electric service is on the north, south, and east
sides. No problems. Where street lights are located, the electric company
will require a 5 foot easement on either side of the lot line (between lots
7 and 8, 4 and 5, and 2 and 3, Block 1).
7. Clyde Terry (Warner Cable): Said they have underground service on three
sides. He said they will -need the strip on the south side dedicated as an
easement.
8. John Kehn (Arkansas Western Gas): There is a gas line on the north and east
sides. He asked that the 25 feet on the south side be identified as utility
easement.
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• 9. Dick Shaw (Southwestern Bell): All easements shown should be identified
as utility easements.
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10. Bobbie Jones. (Planning Administrator). Asked if they could reduce the
size of the easement on the north side. The utility companies agreed they
would serve with a 10 foot easement since there is a 25 foot existing
easement on the south side of the lots in Creekwood Hills. Bobbie Jones
pointed out that Mr. Lieberenz said the flood plain is approximately 140
feet from the centerline of the creek. She explained that the owner would
have to obtain a permit before doing any filling, grading, or excavating.
Any house in the flood plain will have to have the floor level approximately
2 feet above the flood level.
In the legal description there is one bearing which differs from the drawing.
It is the last bearing parallelling the creek in Lot 8., Old Wire Road
North has been changed to Creekwood Hills Subdivision. You also have two
instances where the distance varies slightly from your boundary. On the
call between Lots 8 and 9, I get 152.95 instead of 153 feet.
Bobbie Jones said she had checked the bearings and distances against the
other plats on file and he has a different bearing on Creekwood Hills on
the east side coming down from the quarter section corner. The distance
is the same, but the bearing is different. She also said she had
checked the southeast part of this subdivision and the northeast part
of Winwood II and gets a difference of approximately 111 feet from the
subdivision corners to the East side of Susan.
Bobbie Jones pointed out that the street name is confusing with Susan
Drive and Susan Circle. She noted that stakes and monuments will need
to be shown on the final plat. Also, bring in the application. The
topography is shown at 2 foot intervals instead of 5 foot intervals.
You will need to obtain a waiver from the Planning Commission on this.
Show. the proposed use as single-family. We will need a revision by
noon, November 7.
11. Larry Wood (Planning Consultant): Not present. Agreed with Clayton
Powell, Wally Brt and Bill Boudrey that Creekwood Hills should be
extended into Susan Drive.
The second item for consideration was the large
scale development plan of Munchy's located on the west
side of North College Avenue.
Lee Boss and Howard Smith were present to represent.
MUNCHY'S
2175 North College
Large Scale Development
1 John Kehn (Arkansas Western Gas): Said there is a gas line in front which
they will serve from.
2. Dick Shaw (Southwestern Bell Telephone Company). Asked if the area would
be blacktopped and Lee Boss said it would be concrete. Mr. Shaw said he
would need conduit from the Southwest corner of the building to the south
property line where the undeveloped property meets it for telephone service.
Also, a 15 foot easement down the south property line going west all the
way to the property line from the end of the conduit. He asked what type
of service they would require and Lee Boss said they would only need one line.
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Dick Shaw said he would need a 1" PVC conduit and asked that the developer
stake the end of it where they bring it out.
3. Clyde Terry (Warner Cable): Asked if they would require cable service and
Lee Boss said he didn't know. Mr. Terry said they are on the east side of
Highway 71 and the only way they could get in there to serve would be to
have the developer lay 1" PVC conduit from the pole where the power is
coming off to the building. Lee Boss said he would check with the owner to
see if they require cable. Mr. Terry said if they do not ask'.for cable now
and ask for it at a later date, it will be at the developers' expense.
4. Floyd Hornaday (SWEPCO): Said they plan to serve underground from the north
and asked that they put underground cable from the building to the pole,
either 3" or 4" PVC conduit. The conduit and ditch will have to be furnished
at the developers' expense.
5. Donald Bunn (City Engineer): Water is available on the west side of Highway 71
but Mr. Bunn was not sure if they could hook on. He said there is also sewer
behind them but he was not sure of the exact location. Mr. Bunn said he would
locate it.
6. Bill Boudrey (Fire Department). They have a fire plug on the north and on the
south. No problem.
7. Wally Brt (Sanitation Superintendent): Lee Boss asked if they could move the
container to the southwest corner and Wally Brt said "yes".
8. Clayton Powell (Street Superintendent): There is adequate right-of-way on
College. On the south driveway, there should be a 12.5 foot setback for
the driveway. Change the 20 foot road easement to read "private driveway
easement" to correspond with the legal. description. The Planning Commission
may grant a variance on the driveway abutting the south property line but
Mr. Powell said he would like to see some separation between the driveway and
the property line. He said the Ordinance requires a 25 foot separation
between driveways and the Planning Office usually requires a driveway to be
at least 121 feet from the property line. Lee Boss questioned if they obtained
a statement from the property owner to the south saying they would not have
larger than a 24 foot driveway or would have a 25 foot separation between their
driveway and Munchy's driveway, would that be sufficient, and Clayton Powell
said "yes". He pointed out that the maximum size for a commercial driveway
is 44 feet so the owner to the south could possibly have a 24 foot drive.
9. Bobbie Jones (Planning Administrator): Put a note on the plat that the
parking will be paved. You will have to pave the parking area and drives
before the building may be occupied. We must have an as -built plot plan which,
in addition to what the plot plan contains, will show where individual service
lines for utility companies are located. Add on the drawing how far the
closest point of the roof line will be from the street right-of-way. The
minimum distance is 50 feet.
Bobbie Jones explained the new fencing ordinance to Mr. Boss. David
McWethy said they have a list of plants used. in that area previously which
he would give to Mr. Boss.
Bobbie Jones said to change the Township in the legal description to 14.
She asked for a revision by noon, November 7.
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The last item for consideration was the large
scale development plan of Butterfield Plaza
located on Old Wire Road, south of Old
Missouri Road.
Neal Albright was present to represent.
BUTTERFIELD PLAZA
Old Wire Road
1. Clayton Powell (Street Superintendent). Said the 36 foot driveway on the north
end should have some separation from the property line. Neal Albright said
there is an existing driveway on the property to the north which is 32 feet
from the property line. Clayton Powell asked if the east/west easement for
future street connects to Oak Cliff and Neal Albright said "yes".
Clayton Powell said he feels the developer should be required to post a
perpetual bond with an escalator clause to extend his half of Oak Cliff
Drive from his west property line to Old Missouri Road and this should
also be imposed on the property owner to the south. Bobbie Jones said the
land to the south has already been developed and they have given a 25 foot
easement for street extension. Clayton Powell said he would like to have
this street put through now, if possible. Neal Albright indicated he
might be willing to share the cost of putting the street in with the City.
2. Wally Brt (Sanitation Superintendent): Asked Neal Albright what type of
offices he is proposing and Mr. Albright said it would be professional
offices. Wally Brt asked that they put the 12 x 15 foot container pad on
the northwest corner between parking A and the 13 spaces on the west.
3. Bill Boudrey (Fire Department): No problems.
4. Don Bunn (City Engineer): Sewer comes up from the end of Oak Cliff so
they have sewer to this property line. Water is available from Old
Missouri Road on the west side. Don Bunn asked if this would be master -
metered and Neal Albright said "yes".
5. Floyd Hornaday (SWEPCO): Asked if they would individually meter each
office and Neal Albright said "yes". He said they have service out
there, and.. they will be able to serve them with underground service.
6. Dick Shaw (Southwestern Bell): Said he would have to serve from Old
Missouri Road. He said they would go to the front of the building
—and run 2" PVC conduit under the slab to the back (north side) between
units 1 and 2 and then to the west side between units 3 and 4. Mr.
Shaw said he would also need access to a ground wire.
7. Clyde Terry (Warner Cable): Said he would also have to feed from Old
Missouri Road. He said he would need a 2" PVC conduit to follow the tele-
phone. He said if they have a fire wall, they will need to work with
the owner on that.
8. John Kehn (Arkansas Western Gas): Asked for a 15 foot easementon the
northwest side 9316 ft. length) parallel and adjacent running from Oak
Cliff to Old Missouri Road. They have service just south of Oak Cliff.
Neal Albright asked if he could have this easement on the other side of
the property line and John Kehn said that would be o.k.
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9. Bobbie Jones (Planning Administrator): Said to check with Mr. Lieberenz
about where fire walls will be required. She said he has adequate parking
spaces Bobbie Jones asked if they would be developing the parking in
phases and Neal Albright said "yes". Neal Albright said the only driveway he
would be developing now is the one shown in Phase A. She said he should
notify Wally Brt that this is being done in phases.
Bobbie Jones said he will need to notify the adjoining property owners with
a different zoning district. She said he may do this 1) by certified letter,
return receipt requested; 2) publish a notice in the newspaper; or 3) have
them sign a copy of the plat.
Take out the words "preliminary plat" and put in "large scale development".
Omit the protective covenants, and certificate for recording. She said we
will need a full 60 foot right-of-way on Old Missouri Road. However, the
survey in the rezoning file indicates sufficient right-of-way.
Bobbie Jones said to show that the parking will be paved. Bobbie Jones
explained the new fencing ordinance to Mr. Albright and gave him a copy of
this. She said he is required to have a view -obscuring fence or vegetation
or a combination of the two between this property and the residentially
zoned property. This will apply to the north property line. She said he
would need to either decrease the size to 30" or stop the view -obscuring
fence or vegetation 25-30 feet from the street right-of-way. Between the
drive and street, you must have vegetation not over 21 feet high occupying
10% of the land area
She said we will need a revision by noon, November 7, in order to go to the
Planning Commission on November 14.
• The meeting adjourned at 11 A. M.
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