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MINUTES OF A PLAT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
A meeting of the Fayetteville Plat Review Committee was held at 9;15.A. M,
Thursday, February.12a.19.76, in the. Board,of Directors...Roots, City Administration Building,
Fayetteville, Arkansas,
UTILITY REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT; Frank Ot Donnell, Roy -Hawkins, Clyde.Terry.
CITY REPRESENTATIVES PRESENT: Paul Mattke, Steve Brown; Perry Franklin, Clayton Powell,
Bobbie Jones, Janet Bowen.
DEVELOPERS and/or ENGINEERS PRESENT: Jerry Sweetser, Neal Albright, Ellis Bogan,
Joe Hodges.
The first item for discussion by the , PARADISE VALLEY GOLF COURSE
Plat Review Committee was a large scale development Old Missouri Road Y, Joyce Street
plan submitted by Ellis Bogan to construct Ellis Bogan
a clubhouse on property at the Southeast corner of Old Missouri Road and Joyce Street
(Paradise Valley Golf Course).
Ellis Bogan and Joe Hodges (Architect) was present to represent..Comments were as follows:
1. Clyde Terry (Warner Cable): We are a long way from there at this time. We hope
for this in the future.
Mr. Bogan indicated that he would want cable service if they did service that area in
the future.
2. Frank O'Donnell (Arkansas Western Gas); Mr, Bogan can tie right onto the existing
lines. That is all I have.
3. Roy Hawkins (Southwestern Bell Telephone): We have service there now and can
maintain it. You will need to contact the business office to have your telephone
moved.
4. Paul Mattke (City Engineer): I notice you plan to extend sewer out to tie in
along the creek. That is good. I want to compliment you on that. I think it is
great. This will be a private yardline and no one else is allowed to tie into it.
(One structure per yard line). Of course, water service is presently there.
5. Steve Brown (Community Appearance): The Community Appearance is putting together
a brochure with appropriate plantings for the area. When this is done, I will mail you
a copy. Any assistance that you need, feel free to callus.
6. Clayton Powell (Street Superintendent): Joyce Street is designated as a major
arterial on the Major Street Plan requiring 80 feet of right-of-way. Old Missouri Road,
designated a collector street on the Major Street Plan, requires 60 feet of right-of-way.
Existing right-of-way for each. is 40 feet. I. understand that possibly any additional
dedication abutting your property would jeopardize two or three greens of your golf course.
If we look at the property as it is developed, only half the additional right-of-way
needed is required from each. side of the street, Since the property immediately North
of you is undeveloped and with. the exception of the frame house at the Southwest
corner of Old Missouri. Road is the only development other than pasture and fence line,
possibly some exchange could be worked out if you were willing to enter a contract
with the City to pay the condemnation cost for the additional right-of-way on the West
side of Old Missouri. Road and the North side of Joyce Street:
I would like to see it work out for you. I have no desire whatsoever to be unreasonable.
I would like the Planning Commission to be aware of this. With the existing
Old Missouri. Road being somewhat crooked and on your Southwest corner there is a bridge
and then a curve, which I do not think it would hurt any at all if we did acquire the
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additional right.of �way,off the .West side.of:.Qld Missouri, Road and,off the North
side of Joyce Street. However, to.comply with_the.policy,.the.Planning Commission
and Board..o£ Directors may request.o£ youto enter a.contract to sustain some
of the cost of acquiring all of the additionallyneeded right-of-way.of these
streets through. condemnation or negotiation.. sincethereis no other public
dedications involved, r have no other comment except to point out that we need
this additional right -of -way -to comply with the Master Street Plan.
Mr. Bogan wondered why Old Missouri Road and Joyce Street were proposed to be
wider than North College Avenue when they were both dead end streets.
7. Perry Franklin (Traffic Superintendent): In answer to the Traffic Superinten-
dent's questions, Mr. Bogan stated that they would be using the same access and
that it would be a semi -private clubhouse.
City Engineer Paul Mattke pointed out to Mr. Bogan that his present access on
the intersection was in violation of the safety setback requirement and he would
eventually lose this access point.
Bobbie Jones (Planning Administrator) then added that if Mr. Bogan did decide to
change this access or to re -locate it, he should move it SO feet from the inter-
section either way (measured from the end of the radii) with a maximum 40 foot
driveway.
8. Wally Brt (Sanitation Superintendent): Not present at meeting but telephoned
the following comments: If they want a container, have them to contact me.
9. Charles McWhorter (Fire Chief): No comments.
10 Larry Wood (Planning Consultant): No comments.
11. James Crownover (Ozarks Electric): Not present at meeting but telephoned the
following comments: There are no problems but Mr. Bogan does need to contact
Ozarks Electric because they are showing a couple of poles to be moved that
they cannot move.
12. Bobbie Jones (Planning Administrator): In answer to the Planning Administrator's
question, Mr. Bogan stated that he planned on moving the present clubhouse later
on to be used for a greenskeeper house. He did not know at this time where
he would be moving it to on the property.
Your snack bar must be approved by the State Board of Health.
You are in the A-1 Zone and in this zone we have both a golf course and a
private club or lodge listed as a conditional use requiring Planning Commission
approval. The golf course requires 4 parking spaces per hole and club or lodge
requires 1 for every 600 feet of floor area
In answer to Bobbie Jones' question, Mr. Hodges said they would be making the
asphalt area larger.
Bobbie Jones: On the new parking lot that you are putting in, it should be
25 feet from .the street right-of-way. It must be graded and drained and surfaced.
You are showing asphalt surfacing whichis acceptable. The ordinance also calls
for wheel guards or bumper guards, so that the vehicles do not extend out of
the parking area.
You own the property all around that, so I don't think there is any other problem
on parking. If you decide that you want a sign, you need to check with
Mr. Lieberenz (Inspection Superintendent) on those requirements.
The dedication of right-of-way is needed before the Board.of Directors will
approve a Large Scale Development Plan..
In answer to Mr. Bogan's question, Bobbie Jones said he would have to check
with the City Attorney if he questioned the legality of the street dedications
tied in with the building permit.application.
Bobbie Jones: If you do decide to appeal this, I would like a copy of the letter to
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The last item for.consideration was the.second •
submittal on the proposed Sweetbriar.#2.Subdivisipn located
South:of Sweetbriar Subdivision on. Qld Missouri. Road,.
Jerry Sweetser and NeaLAlbright were present to:represent, 'Comments were as
follows:
-SWEETBRIAR # 2
' Preliminary Plat
1. Clyde Terry (Warner Cable): At the meeting one week ago We asked for the
easements that were necessary along with the gas company, telephone company, etc.
I believe that the easements are sufficient that they'have as far as I can see.
I would say no problems.
2. Frank O'Donnell (Arkansas Western Gas); The same goes for the gas company.
3. Roy Hawkins (Southwestern Bell'Telephone): Will be the same route.
4. Paul Mattke (City Engineer): You indicated where the flood plain was on this
(1252 elevation). That is going to make Lot 5 and 9 unbuildable.
Mr. Albright said he planned to change the contour of Lot 9, Block 9 and
Lot 5 Block 11 and the back part of Lot 8 by building up the area from excavation
when they cut the street.
Paul Mattke: Be sure and show the location of the existing water main and the
future location as we discussed it so that we dont get anybody building over it.
I think my comments concerning Block 11, Lot 1 would still be the same. They
will want to make their access on the Eastern part of the. lot or on the South
half.
The existing water line is 15 feet from the East'line of the easement.
Neal Albright: When we move 35 feet to the West that cuts in considerably on Lot 5,
Block 10. I discussed this with the developer and we could possibly move those
lines to the West 15 or 20 feet or whatever we need. In other words enlarge
Lot 5 and cut down on Lot 1.
Paul Mattke: When you are putting that on there, why don't you go ahead
show the proposed future water main site. Let's just add a note to tell
not to put permanent improvements over that such as fences in excess of
6 feet in height., driveways, etc. The rest of my comments are basically
as the last time.
I think something should be done to discourage the changing of street names in
Fayetteville. The names of streets are deeply embedded in our legal descriptions,
maps; etc.::..and it sometimes takes years for the changes of street names to be
straightened out. I am concerned about the name of this Sharan Street being
confused or sounding too much like the existing Sheryle Avenue on emergency calls, etc.
5. Steve Brown (Community Appearance): In answer to Steve Brown's question,
Neal Albright said they had tentative plans to put duplexes on the larger lots
at the end.
Steve Brown: No comments.
and just
them
the same
6. Clayton Powell ( Street Superintendent): Thenatural-draintand-naturalAdrainage
flow is to the East. At this- point+ in addition to the existing easements, we
would need a 20 -foot drainage easement from the East end of the cul-de-sac all the
way back. to Mud Creekand we would like that easement improved by the developer
(whether it is an open ditch. or tile),
This street arrangement is much. better than the original submitted, It. is evident
that the entire Stubblefield property wi11 continue to develop in incremental and
"Piece meal'.' fashion and that either Katherine or Pine Street will eventually
tie into the extension of Stubblefield Road which -is designated as a collector
on the Major Street Plan, or Errol Street which. is constructed running East off of
Old Missouri Road on the North side of theApple Tree Inn. Also, the property
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on the West side (iowned by the Stubblefield$.) has a "For Sale" sign on it. An overall
proposed use or developmentof this Stubblefield property.would.be.bene£icial to
the Plat Review Committee members; as well'as the Planning. Commission., That way we
could plan a.street pattern and other public improvements-., -
Since the existing terrain and topography isgoingto be changed; no public
improvements may be constiucted..in a flood plain._ I will have to reserve comments
on drainage and street construction until I see the engineering plans and profiles.
Concerning the 20'foot drainage easement as requested by Mr. Powell, Mr. Albright
stated that they would provide the drainage easement.
It was indicated that they might'do this by going between Lot 8 and 9, go North, and
then down the common line to the park to Lot 9, and the ,.same thing.to.avoid
conflict with utility easements.
Clayton Powell: My final comment is: The consulting engineer should resolve this
with the client as long as we have the easement for drainage.
7. Perry Franklin (Traffic Superintendent): No comments.
8. Charles McWhorter (Fire Chief): Not present buttelephoned that his comments
remained the same as the last time.
9. Larry Wood (Planning Consultant): Not present at meeting but itlephoned
that his comments remained the same as last time.
10. James Crownover (Ozarks Electric): Not present at meeting but telephoned the
following comments: We need a 15 foot easement between Lots 2 and 3. Otherwise,
all the easements are okay.
11. Bobbie Jones (Planning Administrator): I still need the signatures of adjoining
property owners. You have one place where your street light spacing gets greater
than permitted by ordinance unless it is waived by the Planning Commission. That
is in Block 11 which measures 370 feet from the one at the intersection of Sharan and
Pine to the one in the cul-de-sac. If this is not wiaved by the Planning Commission,
I would suggest moving that street light on down into the cul-de-sac and putting
one between Lots 1 and 3..
Also, the sidewalk should go all the way around the cul-de-sac and extended down
one side of Pine Avenue. I would suggest the West side since the street light is
shown on the East side.
City Engineer Paul Mattke felt that street lights and sidewalks should be on the
same side of the street.
Street Superintendent Clayton Powell agreed with this except requested that the
street lights not be embedded in the sidewalks.
There was no further discussion.
The meeting was adjourned at 10:07. A. M.
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