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MINUTES OF A PLAT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
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The Fayetteville Plat Review Committee met at 1:30 P.M., Wednesday, August 22, 1973,
in the Directors Room, City Administration Building, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
Present: Wallace Brt, Clayton Powell, David McWethy, Paul Mattke, Bobbie Jones.
Utility Representatives Present: Herbert Holcomb, Clyde Terry, Frank O'Donnell.
Developers and/or Engineers Present: R. Frank Sharp, Raymond Harrel Richard Hipp,
Ervan Wimberly, Chase Reid.
The first matter discussed was a proposed large scale development
submitted by R. Frank Sharp for Ozark Mountain Smoke House to be
located on Highway 62 West. Mr. Sharp was present. Comments and
requirements were as follows:
plan R. FRANK SHARP
OZARK MTN. SMOKE HOUSE
Highway 62 W.
L.S. Development
1. Wallace Brt: Suggested Mr. Sharp use a lodal garbage container.
Mr. Sharp said he was planning to have an inside garbage room in the
building. Mr. Brt told him he would prefer the trash container be
outside the building. He can provide better sanitation service if it
is outside the building. Mr. Brt also recommended the container be set
on a pad. Mr. Sharp said they will have loading docks at each end of
the building
2. David McWethy: Requested a black and white drawing of a size not to
exceed 14" by 18" if the drawing has to be redone for any reason. Otherwise
the one submitted will do for copying purposes.
3. Clayton Powell: What are Planning Office requirements on the parking lot?
Bobbie Jones said it is required to be surfaced with a durable and dust
free surface. There should be a ditch along Smoke House Trail. The
parking lot should be separated from the street by either a barrow ditch
or by a curb and gutter. Designate driveway areas for people to pull in
and out of rather than allowing them to pull in anywhere. Smoke House
Trail is an existing dedicated gravel street. There should be a ditch
on both sides of the road; if there isn't one there, you might have to
open one up. You are limited to driveways 40 ft. wide with a minimum of
25 ft. separation. If Smoke House Trail has less than a 50 ft. ROW, we
might require additional ROW. Mr. Sharp said he thought he had dedicated 50 ft.
to the County for a road.
4. Herbert Holcomb. SWEPCO has adequate 3-phase power available on Smoke
House Road. We are in agreement with him to rebuild some of our
facilities in the area. Any adjustment we will work out with him.
5. Clyde Terry: Do you want TV cable in the proposed building? Mr. Sharp
did not. Mr. Terry said his company would not be involved. However,
if in the future they decide they do want TV cable, he felt there would
be some way they could serve them.
6. Frank O'Donnell: Natural gas service is in the area now and Mr. O'Donnell
did not know of any problems.
7. Bobbie Jones: Loading berths should be 50 ft. from other A or R zoned
property. We would like to have driveways defined. Parking area and loading
berths are to be surfaced with durable and dustless surface. No backing
out into streets from parking or loading areas.
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8. Paul Mattke: Water is available from Highway 62 and from Smoke House.
Trail; the line on Smoke House Trail will have less of a supply. If
you need a great deal of water, you need to connect to the line on
Highway 62. If your comsumption will not increase over your present
requirements, the line in Smoke House Trail will be sufficient. You
will probably need a pressure regulator.
There is a proposed sewer line along Highway 62. We are in hopes to
get it started this fall and should be completed within a year or 2 years.
Your area is fairly complex, and it will be fairly later before it is
completed. We do not expect to be able to provide you with sewer service
before 14 years from this November and this is merely an estimate.
The Committee reviewed with Raymond Marre, Architect, and Attorney Richard
Hipp the large scale development plan submitted by James E. Holder
for property on North College Avenue. Mr. Holder proposes to build
a store for OTASCO. Comments and requirements were as follows:
JAMES E. HOLDER
OTASCO
N. College Ave.
L.S.Development
1. Wallace Brt: Mr. Brt and Mr. Marre discussed a location for the trash
container. Mr. Marre said it could be set just South of the receiving
door. Mr. Brt said he assumed they would have quite a lot of corrugated
cardboard. He suggested they consider a static compactor. The Sanitation
Department can handle this location with a lodal container if they break
their boxes down. He recommended the lodal container have some sort of
pad to set on.
2. David McWethy: Requested a vicinity map
purposes. The one presented is adequate
As far as the plans, I feel the Board of
this. Requested a copy of the site plan
on a black line print.
on black and white for reproduction
if nothing better is available.
Directors would like to see
in a size not to exceed 14" X 18"
3. Clayton Powell: I made the statement last week when you were not present
that I felt that Lee Avenue should be developed. Maybe I can be further
enlightened, but Lee Avenue is an existing dedicated on paper only. If you
plan any use to the back of the building as far as freight trucks and so
forth and if, as indicated, the property is under the same ownership, the
way developers have done in the past in this town is to plat streets and
subdivisions and develop so far and then stop. This is what happened to
Lee Street North of Bertha. They developed Bertha and part of Lee and
stopped. We would have to safeguard our City street standards and since
this undoubtedly will be rezoned commercial, if it hasn't already. We
can't close Lee Avenue because there are three residential lots on the
East side of it; therefore, I'm going to have to request that Lee Street
be developed from Bertha to the North property line. (David McWethy
asked if this is a request or a requirement.) Mr. Powell said it is a
requirement. Mr. Marre said the only property they will be using is
the portion fronting on Highway 71. Mr. Powell said that is true, but
then they have eliminated the three lots on the West side of Lee Avenue
by the commercial development and this leaves the City with a gravel
street to serve three lots on a street we can't close. If the same
property owner owned the property on the East side of Lee Street, possibly
they would cooperate or participate in the cost of the construction.
Lee North of Bertha has not been accepted as a gravel street; we just
accepted the dedication only. This is how we have inherited 44 miles of
gravel streets in this town. Mr. Powell suggested that Mr. Holder participate
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in the development of Lee Street North of Bertha and to the end of the
street. This is a dead end street with an open driveway alongside
Wyatt's Cafeteria; but techinically the street should terminate in a
cul de sac, and then if any property owners in the area want to have a
driveway from the cul de sac into the lot adjoining.
Mr Marre said he already had permission to make the cut in the curb
between the parking lots for the proposed OTASCO store and the existing
Gibson's-Wyatt's parking lot.
Mr. Powell insisted that Lee Avenue be developed. Richard Hipp said
he felt sure Mr. Holder would agree to closing Lee Avenue. Mr. Powell
said that unless the zoning is changed this cannot be done or you will
have 3 residentially zoned lots without frontage on a street. Mr. Hipp
said he felt that in the future Mr. Holder would want those 3 lots
rezoned. It was pointed out that the area for development does not include
those 3 lots but they are just shown because they are under the same
ownership. Also to close Lee Street would cut the three lots on the
East side of the street off from any street frontage. Mr. Marre said they
have no intention to use the 3 platted lots at all ---all the freight will
arrive from the front on College Avenue. Mr. Powell said that in this
case he would agree with the representative of the property owner that we
have to barricade Lee Avenue to prevent further access through there and
to prevent public requests for maintenance of Lee Street by the City
Street Department. Paul Mattke suggested a screen be erected between this
development and the three platted lots. Bobbie Jones said there is nothing
in the zoning ordinance to require a screen. Mr. Powell said he would
rather barricade Lee Avenue as to require a screen. The screen would be
fine but would not solve the Street Department problem. He had graveled and
bladed the street once. Mr. Powell said he had asked for a service or
frontage road from Millsap Road to Rolling Hills Drive but did not get
any support and he was afraid other City officials will regret not
requiring the service road.
Mr Marre said he has contacted Dale Kendall with the Arkansas Highway
Department concerning the driveway onto College. Mr. Powell asked that
on the parking lot drainage it be controlled and tied into the drop inlets
on College.
4. Herbert Holcomb: Have 3-phase power available from two directions.
Looking at the total development, you have got a 5 -ft. easement down along
what I call the Maple Crest development at the North end of the property.
We have done our work across the front and it looks like the driveways have
missed it and we would desire not to have to do any more relocation here
for even the total development as it goes along. Then looking at the
possibility of this future addition and the probable request for power in
the rear of this building you don't have adequate easement to get by it
even with an underground situation. We have a 3-phase line that comes up
off Harold Street and it is coming right in ---it is on the Wheeler property
now- —and it feeds the fire station, that's is 120-208 voltage at the present.
We contacted Jim Bob Wheeler to see if he would let us go across his 80 ft.
We have a single-phase line on the West side of Lee Street that serves a
house on Lot 4 on the Northeast corner of that lot which is the Southeast
corner of Mr. Holder's Lot 3. We are also about 80 ft. from the property
just off Lot 5. If we could extend that 3-phase line coming off Harold
Street then we could come in right on the rear lot line of this development.
That would give rear lot service for all of this. Mr. Wheeler will not sign
an easement. He owns Lot 5 and he doesn't want to cut himself off from
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getting out to Lee Street although Lot 5 is zoned R-1. He would hope
that it would go commercial along with this other. We would Tike to_
have a 10 -ft. easement we could file across the back of this development so
we could serve those 4 Tots on Lee Street if they ever got out of Mr. Holder's
control If this line became closed, which it could, if at the same time
I recorded a 10 ft. easement along the South edge of Lot 3, I can get back
to that same point. I can take a chance with'Jim Bob Wheeler if I've got
the alternate route on Lot 3. Also, this would remove the necessity of
having pole lines along College Avenue. Mr. Marre promised to ask Mr. Holder
to give the 10 ft. easement along the East side of the property for
development and along the South side of Lot 3. If Mr. Holder can get
Mr. Wheeler to give him a 10 ft. easement across his property, the 10 ft.
easement on Lot 3 will not be needed.
5. Clyde Terry: We have cable between Bertha and Harold and if we can get
the 10 ft. easement on the South side of Lot 3 and across the back of the
property for development, we can come in from the Southeast. Otherwise,
we will have to come in from Highway 71 North and the 5 ft. easement will
not be enough. We need a minimum of 10 ft. if we have to go that way.
6. Paul Mattke: The water line is under a parking lot between Lee Street and
College Avenue and would be difficult to tap. They would need to go to
College Avenue or Lee Street for service and furnish *obtain the necessary
easements. Sewer is available from Lee Street. An easement needs to be
recorded so that in the future if those lots are sold, they are protected.
Floor elevations need to be checked to be sure you have enough grade to get
into the sewer. I strongly recommend connection to the public sewer system.
Could the building be moved South so it is 10 ft. off the North property line?
You will have high water pressure and will want to put in a pressure
regulator.
7. Frank O'Donnell: Arkansas Western Gas Company has the same problem as
SWEPCO. We need an easement to correspond with his. We need to get
to the Southwest corner of Lot 1.
8. Bobbie Jones: What is area of sign face? Mr. Marre said they can meet
the square footage maximum of 75 sq. ft. and will set it back 40 ft. or
whatever is required. Also the wall sign extends 1 ft. above the roof
line. The ordinance calls for it not to exceed the height of the wall
upon which it is mounted. Mr. Marre said they will comply with the
regulations if they have to do so.
Mr. Terry said he could not speak for the Telephone Company, but that he suspected
they would have to bring service in from Highway 71. Mr. Hipp agreed to prepare
the necessary easements for Mr. Holder to sign.
The next matter was the proposed Final Plat of Winwood II, a WINWOOD II SUB.
subdivision being developed by Fayetteville Land Company, Mildred Final Plat, Phase I
Winborn, President. Ervan Wimberly and Chase Reid from McClelland
Engineers were present to discuss the proposal. Comments and
requirements were as follows:
1. Herbert Holcomh: Need additional easements. I have given them a copy
of the plat with the additional easements needed marked on it.
2. David McWethy: Want a black line of the finished product and a vicinity
map.
3. Clayton Powell: I think it is wonderful I have covered everything in
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in my comments (letters) on the plans and profiles for streets and
drainage. If there are any questions, look at my notes. Whoever
gets -Lot 28 (Block 1) will have a real problem building on it.
Mr. Wimberly said he thought Mr. Winborn would like to give it to the
City as a park site sometime -
4. Clyde Terry: Need 15 ft. easement centered between Lots 21 and 22,
Block 1. (Ervan Wimberly said that Mr. Holcomb had requested a 10 ft.
easement along the entire East side of Block 1 and an additional 10 ft.
easement between Lots 25 and 26, Block 1 and between Lots 24 and 27,
Block 1 and between Lots 3 and 4, Block 2.)
5. Paul Mattke: Will the street leading to the North off Overcrest intersect
with the private drive coming out of Winwood? What will happen to the
private drive? Mr. Wimberly did not know.
Mr. Mattke said he could not sign the plat in its present form. They must
either have the improvements of streets, drainage, water and sewer completed
or reword the signature block for him. He could not check the plat because
he did not have the as-builts. If anything is wrong after the as-builts
are received, the developer will have to bear the cost of correcting the
plat.
6. Frank O'Donnell: Could we put gas lines down the two streets and stub
service lines across behind the curb? Discussed. Mr. O'Donnell said
they would work with them to get gas service in the most feasible way.
7. Bobbie Jones: Adjoining street rights-of-way and adjoining off-site
utility easements should be shown.
Some discussion was devoted to the proposed street names and the confusion
that might be created to the utility companies.
The next matter reviewed was a large scale development plan submitted SAM TAYLOR
by Sam Taylor to construct a dwelling on Stone Bridge Road. The land Stone Bridge Rd.
is question is more than one acre. Mr. Taylor was not present. Comments L.S.Development
and requirements were as follows:
1. Clayton Powell: The plat book does not contain a dedicated street right-
of-way. There will have to be a minimum of 50 ft. The two driveways
are limited to 24 ft. in width with a minimum separation of 25 ft. A
24 -inch tile to underdrain the driveways will be required
2. Clyde Terry: There is no TV cable available and it will be quite some
time before it is available.
3. Paul Mattke: I am not quite sure where the end of the 24 -inch water line
is in relation to this property. If we can get to him we will be happy
�£o serve him. There is no sewer at this time, but we are designing a
sewer which we will try to consider serving this property from, but it may
not be feasible.
4.;Frank O'Donnell: Natural gas lines are at least 1000 ft. from them, so
for all practical purposes, natural gas service is not available.
5. Bobbie Jones: If sewer is not available, arpermit for a septic tank system
must be obtained from the County Sanitarian:
The meeting was adjourned at 3:50 R.M.
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