HomeMy WebLinkAbout1973-08-07 MinutesMINUTES OF A PLAT REVIEW COMMITTEE MEETING
(J The Fayetteville Plat Review Committee met at 1:30 P.M., August 7, 1973,
in the Directors Room, City Administration Building, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
a Present: David McWethy, Bobbie Jones, Wallace Brt, Paul Mattke,
�I� Charles McWhorter,
2 Utilities Representatives Present: David Tucker, Herbert Holcomb,
Frank O'Donnell
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Developers and/or Engineers Present: Lloyd Hobbs, J. E. McClelland,
James Lindsey
The first matter discussed was the Large Scale Development plan for the
140 bed nursing home to be constructed on Old Missouri Road by Paul
Young, Inc. Lloyd Hobbs was present to represent the Large Scale
Development plan. Comments and requirements were as follows:
1. Wallace Brt: It does not matter whether you use cans or a
container, but I would suggest a load -all container as it
would be far better. Mr. Brt and Mr. Hobbs discussed a
location for the container. Mr. Brt said that he needed
an 8 ft. x 8 ft. pad. He suggested a concrete pad to set
the container on. He said that the concrete would last much
longer than asphalt. If they prefer to use cans they should
use pre -molded holders and a pipe railing around the cans.
Mr. Hobbs told Mr. Brt that they would probably use a °dumpsterll.
2. David McWethy: Requested a site -location map prepared with
black lines and with a size no larger than 14 inches x 18
inches sometime after the final plan is prepared so that this
can be copied and distributed to the Planning Commission_and
Board of Directors. In the past, they have indicated their
preferance to table it until they can get adequate maps.
3. David Tucker: Mr. Tucker asked if they would have room tele-
phones in each room and Mr. Hobbs said that they would not.
Mr. Tucker suggested that Mr. Hobbs check to see if there would
be any rooms with telephones in them because they might have
some clients that would room telephones. He asked that Mr.
Hobbs provide him with a copy of the plans as soon as the basic
floor plans are ready. Mr. Hobbs told him that they would be
using the same identical plan 4as. the nursing home recently
built in Rogers. Mr. Tucker requested a 2 inch conduit stubbed
out of the equipment room under the building, then the telephone
company would serve from there. He added that they would work
with them on the individual telephone service.
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PAUL YOUNG, INC.
Old Missouri Rd.
L.S.Development
4. Herbert Holcomb: SWEPCO has adequate three phase power along
Old Missouri Road, the customer is providing right-of-way for
the future street which is adequate. We will cooperate with
him on either underground or overhead at the location he has
indicated on his plans.
5. Charles McWhorter: Will this street be open now or after the
building is built? Mr. Hobbs indicated that it would be opened
back to the rear entrance.by the time the building is built.
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Mr. McWhorter requested that there be no parking around the
covered drive shown on the plans. He recommended that the
building be sprinkled.
6. Paul Mattke: For high value, the area coverage on the existing
hydrants is not adequate. This will result in a high insurance
cost for the owner of the building. I do not know what you can
do to improve it short of extending the water line over to inter-
connect with the 36 inch line coming from Beaver. If this is
done, this would give adequate fire flows and would give us
something to then install hydrants on and give better hydrant::
spacing.
As this is a proposed street I request that the water and sewer
facilities to serve the area east and north should be provided
at this time so we won't have to dig the street up in the future.
I would think that the property owner of the balance of that
property would be interested. If you did decide to do this,
I would like to see the lines sized sufficiently to take care
of future growth.
What is this reserved area for? Mr. Hobbs said that the reserved
area is simply land which they do not need now. He thought that
there was a street along the south line of it. Mr. Mattke said
that he thought this was a private drive belonging to the school,
and that if there should be a street through there, that 150 ft.
depth would be very difficult to something with. He added that
they would need a pressure reducer on the water line. The connec-
tion with the Beaver line, which Mr. Mattke had recommended earlier,
he said would not really benefit the property to the east as much
as it would benefit this property, because the property to the east
already has a transmission line through it.
Mr. Mattke suggested that in accepting the street the City make a
stipulation that there were to be no lot splits along that street
uhtil water and sewer services are provided. He said the plan,
as drawn, does not cover the proposed street, and that plans and
profiles for the sewer line have to be approved by himself and the.
State Board of Health before construction can begin.
Mr. Hobbs said that this would not cost him one penny more for
insurance if he did not put the water line in.
7. Frank O'Donnell: No problem with gas service. We will need to
get with you and check your load for meter size.
8. Bobbie Jones: The location for the trash container cannot take
up any of the required parking spaces. Some of the parking spaces
are located too close to the proposed street. Only the Board of
Adjustment can vary the parking spaces required.
J. E. McClelland was present to discuss with the Plat Review Committee the
proposed plans for improvements in the City Park areas. Comments were as
follows:
1. David McWethy: Are these structures designed by an Arkansas
Registered Architect? Mr. McClelland said that they are not.
David McWethy said that he would like to access to the originals
so that he could make the copies he needed or have this on a
black line of some sort. He asked about waste receptacles for
Happy Hollow School and the Veterans Administration
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IMPROVEMENTS
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and asked if the picnic tables, chairs, and benches would be made out
of concrete. Mr. McClelland said that they will be. Mr. David McWethy
said that it was discussed that perhaps the. West Campus shop class
could make the picnic tables, etc. out of redwood.
2. Wallace Brt: What type trash containers are proposed? Mr. McClelland
said that it would simply be big barrels with covers on them. Mr. Brt
said that by no means would he want any 50 gallon barrels and nothing
any larger than 32 gallonssize. He said he would rather set load -all
containers. He said that even a 6 year old child could put trash in
either a 3 yard or 4 yard container. Mr. Brt said that he thought
Shirley Thornsberry, Buildings and Grounds Superintendent, would be
happier with 30 gallon containers. His men could empty into the
load -all, then the Sanitation Department would empty the load -all.
Mr. Brt said that his men would not go in with both trucks.
David Mewethy asked if the schools did not already have load-alls,
and was told that they do but there is no way that the parks system
could use the same ones. The parks load -all containers could be
set with the schools load -all containers, however, Mr. McClelland
asked if this could not be handled internally. Mr. Brt continued to
say that he did not want any underground containers, and if cans are
used, they should be set in premolded containers.
3. David Tucker: The telephone company doesn't really have anything to
do with these unless there is a chance that they want a pay telephone
at some of the parks. On the Asbell parking area we have a pretty
good size buried cable on the west side of Lewis Avenue. Be
careful digging there.
4. Herbert Holcomb: With the exception of Asbell there are no power
requirements. We have power available there and have already worked
everything out with McClelland. We may have to set an additional
pole.
5. Charles McWhorter: No comments or problems.
6. Paul Mattke: Water and sewer are available for Asbell; or Jefferson
if they decide they want it; water is available for the Veterans
Administration parks, but it is rather doubtful that sewer is
available; water and sewer are available in the Happy Hollow Area
it would have to run alittle ways to get to it; at Root School
water is available on Highway 45 where we are at the east edge
of the property; water and sewer are available for Butterfield
School park; water and sewer available for the Hight.School. Mr.
Mattke said that he wondered if they would not be coming back in
the future to add water and sanitary facilities around the picnic
areas.
David Tucker asked if these would be for use by the schools only
or for the general public. Mr. "McClelland said that the Bureau
of Outdoor Recreation requires that these be available to the
general public. David McWethy said that when these are developed
and the others in progress are completed, Fayetteville will have
13 City parks In terms of facilities, geographic distribusion
we will have the best park system in the state.
7. Frank O'Donnell: Mr. McClelland told Mr. O'Donnell that at Bates
he needs to get the gas company approval of some screening that the
Bureau of Outdoor Recreation requires around the meter enclosure.
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Jim Lindsey was present tocreview the progress he is making on his Planned
Unit Development in Hyland Park Subdivision. Comments were as follows:
1. Wallace Brt• The dwelling units will probably be served by cans.
Get the pre -cast concrete pads for the cans, I think this is almost
a necessity. It prevents cans from being turned over. You could
have two per unit. On the recreation part of it, I would like a
container placed there. Mr. Lindsey said that the future recreation
would be a swimming pool and tennis courts. Mr. Brt said that a
load -all container would not be necessary for the recreation unit
but he would like to see the pre -cast holders there also if they
did not use the container.
2. David McWethy: Before final plat stage Iu request: a plat and
vicinity map in black line.
3. David Tucker: I never have gotten the answer to the problem about
serving these units. We will have to work out whether it would be
individual service or common service with some kind of legal
document. I do not see any problems on it. We were talking about
wiring through one man's house into another man's house. We might
end up in a central point outside with a conduit into each apart-
ment.
4. Herbert Holcomb: SWEPCO might have the same problem. The company
would prefer we go to one pedestal with a separate meter on each
one and come to the pedestal. Do you have any objection to giving
a blanket easement over all of this? Mr. Lindsey said that he did
not think there would be any objections. It was agreed that they
would have to work together on the easements.
5. Charles McWhorter: I hope by the time he gets this project going
we will be closer. I understand that he is working with Paul
Mattke on spacing the fire hydrants. We will have fire protection
available.
6. Paul Mattke: I am in the process of reviewing water and sewer
facilities. The outside plans have already been reviewed and are
under construction. There is no problem with utilities. We need
to work with him the same as:ithe telephone company on the metering.
We can either individual meter or bulk meter. Mr. Lindsey said
that he wanted individual metering. We have to work with you on
additional water and sewer lineseasements.
7. Frank O'Donnell: His comments duplicated those of the other utility
companies, as to the servicing and metering services.
8. Bobbie Jones: In the required front setback, nothing is permitted
to grow which materially impedes vision between the height of 30
inches and 10 ft. Parking areas with 3 or more spaces must be-'
marked off or allow room for turning around on the property.
The meeting was adjourned at 3:30 P.M.
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