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• PLANNING COMMISSION
A regular meeting of the Planning Commission was held on October 28, 1996 at 5:30 p.m. in
Room 219 of the City Administration Building, 113 W. Mountain, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
PRESENT: Phyllis Johnson, John Harbison, Conrad Odom,
Jerry Allred, Mark Sugg, John Forney, Bob
Reynolds, Lorel Hoffman, and Gary Tucker.
STAFF PRESENT: Alett Little, Rich Lane, Jim Beavers, Dawn Warrick
and Heather Woodruff.
APPROVAL OF THE MINUTES
The minutes were approved as distributed.
CONSENT AGENDA
LS96-43.00: LOT SPLIT (PP565)
KARYN BROPHY- 1700 E. HUNTSVILLE RD.
• The first item on the consent agenda was submitted by Karyn Brophy for property located at
1700 E. Huntsville, Rd. The property is zoned R -O, Residential -Office, and contains
approximately 0.98 acres. The request is for a lot split for two tracts of 0.42 and 0.56 acres each.
Both tracts will have frontage on Huntsville Road.
The staff recommended approval subject to the following conditions:
1. Preparation of warranty deed for dedication of right-of-way on Huntsville Road.
2. Copy of original warranty deed showing current owners acquisition of subject property.
3. Improvements as shown on plat including the following:
a. Installation of 5' sidewalk at 1700 Huntsville Road and 5' sidewalk on the newly
created lot at the time of development.
b. Addition of plat page 565 to title block.
c. Dedication of a total of 45' from centerline for right-of-way on Huntsville Road.
d. Show zoning of adjacent property on plat.
e. Addition of vicinity map to plat.
4. Utility easements as requested at Technical Plat Review as shown on plat including the
following:
a. 15' utility easement centered on the newly created property line (7.5' on each side).
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LS96-44.00 LOT SPLIT
PHIL EZELL- S OF WEDINGTON DR, AND W. OF BETTY JO DR.
The next item on the consent agenda was submitted by Phil Ezell for property located south of
Wedington Drive and west of Betty Jo Drive. The property is zoned R -O, Residential -Office,
and contains approximately 2.42 acres. The request is to split the tract into two parcels of 0.69
and 1.40 acres and a Street right-of-way dedication of 0.34 acres. Tract A (0.69 acres) will front
Wedington Road. Tract B (1.40 acres) will be behind tract A.
The staff recommended approval subject to the following conditions:
1. Preparation of warranty deeds for dedication of rights-of-way (2):
a. 25' public access required on the west property line of the original and the proposed
lots.
b. A total of 35' of right-of-way is required from the centerline of Hwy 16W.
2. Installation of a 5' sidewalk along Wedington Drive to connect to the existing sidewalk on the
east side of the property.
3. Developer will be responsible for extension of all necessary water and sewer lines to serve the
• new lot (Tract B) these facilities are not available on site at this time. Water and /or sewer
service lines will not be allowed to cross property lines.
4. Addition of plate page 440 to title block.
5. Tract B will come back through the Planning process for a Large Scale Development
approval.
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LS96-45.00: LOT SPLIT
MELANIE STAFFORD- N. OF HWY 16W AND W OF 59TH STREET.
The last item on the consent agenda was submitted by Melanie Stafford for property located
north of Hwy 16 W and west of 59th Ave. The property is zoned RA, Residential Acre, and
contains approximately 3.64 acres. The request is to split the tract into two parcels of 1.84 acres
each. Both tracts will front Wedington Road and tract 2 will also front 59th Avenue.
The staff recommended approval subject to the following conditions:
1. Installation of 4' sidewalk along Wedington Drive for Tract 2 for the split, installation of 4'
sidewalk for Tract 1 at the time of development of that lot.
2. $300 parks fee payment for the newly created residential lot.
3. Revise the plat to show the following:
a. Plat page 397.
b. Sidewalks in the legend and on the plat along Wedington Drive as required.
4. Dedication by warranty deed the 30' right-of-way as shown on 59th Avenue.
5. Dedication by warranty deed the amount required to provide a total of 55' of right-of-way fro
• the centerline of Wedington Drive.
6. Dedication of utility easements as required at Technical Plat Review and shown on plat
including the following:
a. 15' easement on property line between tracts 1 and 2, 7.5' on each side of line.
b. 30' easement to cover a 2" high-pressure gas line along the north side of Wedington
Drive. This line must be located and the easement centered over it (15' on each side) which may
extend the amount of total right-of-way dedicated in that location.
7. The access to the adjacent property to the north must remain open on Tract one.
MOTION
Mr. Forney moved to approve the consent agenda.
Ms. Hoffman seconded the motion.
The item was approved unanimously.
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NEW BUSINESS
LS96-40: LOT SPLIT PRESTON FERGUSON-
N, OF HUNTSVILLE RD, AND E. OF STONE BRIDGE RD.
The next item on the agenda was submitted by Preston Ferguson for property located north of
Huntsville Road and east of Stone Bridge Road. The property is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare
Commercial, and contains approximately 1.45 acres. The request is to split the property into two
parcels of 0.72 (Tract 2) and 0.73 (tract 3). Please note that Tract 1 was previously spit form this
property at the June 10, 1996 Planning Commission meeting.
The staff recommended approval subject to the following conditions:
1. Tracts 2 and 3 shall come back through the Planning process for formal Large Scale
Development approvals.
2. Installation of a 5' sidewalk along highway 16 for tracts 2 and 3 at the time of development for
each tract. The 5' sidewalk along Highway 16 for Tract 1 was a condition of the previous lot split
and must be fulfilled.
• 3. Fulfillment of all previous conditions of approval for the split of Tract 1 including the
required new fire hydrant and additional street right-of-way.
4. Street lights at a maximum spacing of 300' along Huntsville and Stone Bridge Roads.
5. Revision of the plat to include the following:
a. Addition of plat page 528 to title block
b. Addition of sidewalk to the legend
c. Label the required setbacks for tract 3
6. Dedication by warranty deed the property necessary to provide a total of 55' from centerline
for right-of-way on Huntsville Road.
7. Money in lieu of improvements for the estimated costs of improving Stone Bridge Road to
City standards for the length from Highway 16 to the northwest comer of the panhandle of tract
1, approximately 300'. The total amount will be based upon improvements equal to one-half
width of a City Street (one half of a 28' street). The funds may be provided in one lump sum or
pro -rated between the new lots and paid at the time of the development of tracts two and three.
The total estimated amount must be approved by the City Engineer.
8. All public improvements
and
utility easements
will be subject to further review at the time of
LSD submittal for tracts two
and
three.
Mr. Mel Harris, Northwest Engineer, questioned item #7, the money in lieu of improvements for
Stonebridge. He requested the option to construct the improvements.
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Mr. Beavers agreed to giving the developer the option of constructing the improvements or
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donating money in lieu.
They could make their decision when tract 3
was brought
in for Large
Scale Development.
the option to construct the improvements to Stonebridge or to give money in lieu at
the
time tract
Mr. Harris stated he would be glad to make the decision when tract come up to be developed.
Mr. Gary Sorensen, an area resident, question the future plans of the lots and if another item on
the agenda was the same property.
Ms. Little stated lot 1 was requesting a change in use for an existing building.
Ms. Johnson explained the Planning Commission could only address the item before them; the
lot split. If development was to occur on the newly created lots they would go through the Large
Scale process.
Mr. Sugg question why the improvements to Stonebridge were tied to tract 3.
Mr. Beavers stated tract 2 had no frontage on Stonebridge.
• Mr. Sugg replied the City may never receive improvements to Stonebridge if tract 3 was never
developed.
Mr. Beavers responded tract 2 should be required to do improvements to the street because it did
not touch Stonebridge. He clarified the small panhandles that were shown for the sewer lines
would not be required. The City would allow normal rectangular lots with private sewer line
service easements for this project and similar ones. He added the developer could square up the
lots if he wished.
MOTION
Mr.
Allred moved to approve
the item subject to staff comments with item #7 amended to allow
the
applicant
the option to construct the improvements to Stonebridge or to give money in lieu at
the
time tract
3 came forward
for development.
Mr. Harbison seconded the motion.
Mr. Forney question if the zoning had changed to the east and what the required side setback
would be.
Ms. Little stated there were no side setbacks requirements in areas zoned commercial. They
• could build on the property line or attach to another building.
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The roll was called, the item was approved unanimously.
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LS96-47.00: LOT SPLIT FOR WRMC DIALYSIS CENTER
WRMC DIALYSIS -S. OF MONTE PAINTER DR. & E. OF NORTH HILLS BLVD
The next item on the agenda was submitted by Northwest Engineers for property located south of
Monte Painter Drive and east of North Hills Blvd. The property is zoned R -O, Residential -
Office, and contains approximately 15.53 acres. The request is to split the property into two
tracts of 2.19 and 13.14 acres. The 2.19 acre tract is also in the process, and on this agenda, as a
Large Scale Development 96-33 for the WRMC Dialysis Clinic.
The staff recommended approval subject to the following conditions:
1. Revision of plat to show the following:
a. Addition of plat page 251 to title block
b. Show property zoning
2. Additional requirements, public improvements and utility easements are addressed with the
accompanying large scale development. (LSD 96-33).
Mr. Harry Gray, Northwest Engineer, stated the applicant had no problems with the conditions.
• Mr. Tucker questioned the curved property lines.
Mr. Gray replied the property lines had been curved to accommodate the future rerouting of the
boulevard.
MOTION
Mr. Harbison moved to approve the lot split with the stated conditions.
Mr. Reynolds seconded the motion.
The roll was called and the item was approved unanimously.
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LSD96-33.00: LARGE SCALE FOR WRMC DIALYSIS CENTER
WRMC DIALYSIS CENTER
The next item on the agenda was submitted by Northwest Engineers for property located south of
Monte Painter Drive and east of North Hills Blvd. The property is zoned R -O, Residential -
Office, and contains approximately 2.19 acres. The applicants are also requesting a waiver to
allow 39 additional parking spaces for their clinic and 18 additional parking spaces for the
adjacent rehabilitation hospital. The total parking request is 83 spaces. The total " required" for
the clinic is 26 spaces.
The staff recommended approval subject to the following conditions:
1. Approval of the requested parking waiver.
2. Provide a T sidewalk with a 4' green space along Monte Painter Drive.
3. Request that the adjacent Rehabilitation Hospital install access ramps (handicap ramps) for
their existing sidewalks.
4. Provide a minimum of one van accessible parking space.
5. Provide storm water detention in accordance with the Storm water Management (Drainage)
• Ordinance. Ownership and maintenance of the detention facility shall be vested in the property
owner.
6. Additional fire hydrant as requested by the Fire Chief.
7. Staff approval of the detailed plans, specifications and calculations where applicable for
grading, drainage, water, sewer, streets, sidewalks, parking lot and tree preservation. All
improvement to comply with the City's current requirements.
8. Plat review and subdivision committee comments, including the written plat comments
mailed to the applicant.
9. The developer's engineer shall prepare and finalize a separate easement plat prior to the
approval of any building permits for this development.
10. The LSD approval will be valid for one calendar year.
Ms. Johnson asked for justification of the parking waiver.
Ms. Little stated the applicant had provided a letter to the Commission justifying their request.
They were asking for additional parking to accommodate their current number of employees and
patients, as well as additional shared parking for Northwest Arkansas Rehabilitation Hospital.
Ms. Johnson questioned if there were any controls over how the sharing would be done.
Ms. Little replied she was not aware of any additional agreements between the Dialysis Clinic
and the Rehab Hospital. She added, both facilities were owned by WRMC.
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Mr. Gary stated WRMC was a partial owner of both facilities.
Ms. Johnson question if the City needed to arrange an agreement between the two for the shared
parking.
Ms. Little thought it would be difficult for the City to enforce any agreement. She added it
would be self policing.
Ms. Hoffman
questioned
the applicants
planned
to install handicap access ramps on the existing
sidewalks.
Mr. Gray stated they had written a letter to the Rehab Hospital requesting they consider installing
handicap ramps but, they had not heard back from them.
Ms. Johnson commented 26 spaces were required and they were requesting an additional 57
spaces for a total of 83 parking spaces.
Ms. Little stated the City did have maximums, which had been designed to regulate commercial
• businesses who were paving large expanses of land and then use them for out door storage. They
were not intended for medical center. She added the applicant had justified his request for an
additional 90 parking spaces.
Ms. Johnson questioned if the request was for more than what was really needed.
Ms. Little stated the staff did not have any evidence that the request was for more than what was
needed.
Mr. Odom stated he had seen people parking in streets at the rehab hospital on several occasions.
Mr. Tucker questioned how they had arrived at 18 for the shared parking spaces.
Mr. Gray stated 18 spaces would satisfy the Rehab hospital current need for parking.
Ms. Johnson asked the applicant if he was in a position to agree to the other conditions that the
Planning Commission were requesting.
Mr. Gray stated they were in agreement with all the other requirements.
Ms. Johnson stated the Commission felt they had the authority to require the handicap ramps be
installed even though they were on the Rehab Hospital's property, because they were requesting
• additional parking for them. She asked Mr. Gray if he felt that something would be done. She
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asked what would happen if the Commission approved the request and the Rehab Hospital
decided they did not want to build the ramps.
Mr. Harbison asked Ms. Little if it would be possible to approve the additional 18 parking spaces
for the Rehab Hospital contingent upon a receipt of a bill of assurance from them that they would
provide the ramps, adding this would allow the applicant to go forward with the space for the
Dialysis facility.
Mr. Tucker questioned the distance between the back of the building to the southwest property
line.
Mr. Gray replied it was approximately 35'.
Mr. Tucker asked how the rear of the building would look.
Mr. Wilhelm,
architect,
stated the entire building was subject to the
covenants of the of the
development,
including
the back of the building. He added the rear
of the building would be the
same as the front with the same detail and character.
MOTION
Mr. Harbison moved to approve the item with the conditions #2-10 as stated and waive 39 spaces
to be used by the owners of this property bring the total to 65 parking spaces. In addition,
approval of a wavier for another 18 spaces contingent upon the Rehab Hospital providing the
City a bill of assurance stating they would install access ramps on the existing sidewalks.
Mr. Reynolds seconded the motion.
Mr. Wilhelm questioned if the ramps would be required at all sidewalks on the Rehab site or
would it be specifically the ones at the entry.
Ms. Little they were talking about the sidewalks along Monte Painter Drive.
Mr. Gray stated both entrances were off Monte Painter drive.
Mr. Reynolds questioned if the addition of the ramps along Monte Painter would make the
hospital completely handicaps accessible.
Mr. Gray stated he was not that familiar with the Rehab Hospital, but it would make the sidewalk
is
on the City's property handicap accessible.
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Mr.
Harbison amended his motion
stating the Rehab Hospital
must come into compliance with
the
ADA in terms of sidewalks.
current regulations.
Mr.
Gray defending
the building was in
compliance when it was constructed and he did not know
if it
would meet the
current regulations.
Mr. Harbison withdrew his amendment.
The roll was called and the item passed unanimously.
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LSD96-34.00: LARGE SCALE UNITARIAN UNIVERSALIST FELLOWSHIP
ENGINEERING DESIGN ASSOC.-S. OF CLEVELAND & W. OF STORER ST.
The next item on the agenda was submitted by Engineering Design Associates for property
located south of Cleveland Street and west of Storer Street. The property is zoned R-3, High
Density Residential, and contains approximately 1.1 l acres. The LSD request will provide a
building expansion of approximately 1900 square foot, pave an existing parking lot and construct
a new paved parking lot with 12 spaces.
The applicants have requested three waivers:
1. A waiver of parking requirements. 50 spaces are required and 42 spaces are proposed.
2. A waiver of sidewalk requirements along Cleveland Street.
3. A waiver of the setback requirements along Oakland Avenue and Cleveland Street (Board of
Adjustments 11-4-96).
The staff recommended approval subject to the following conditions:
• 1. Approval of the requested parking waiver.
2. Approval of the requested setback waiver.
3. Approval of the sidewalk waiver along Cleveland.
4. Plat review and subdivision committee comments, including the written plat comments
mailed to the applicant.
5. Staff approval of the detailed plans, specifications and calculations where applicable for
grading, drainage, water, sewer, streets, sidewalks, parking lot and tree preservation. All
improvements to comply with the City's current requirements.
6. Improve Storer Street to City standards 14' from the centerline.
7. Provide money in -lieu of improvements to Cleveland Street. Improvement to Cleveland
Street are currently scheduled for 1998/99. The amount requested to be determined by the
Planning Commission as fair and reasonable for the proposed expansion.
8. Dedicate by warranty deed the right-of-way necessary to provide 35' of ROW from the
centerline of Cleveland Street.
9. The LSD approval will be valid for one calendar year.
Ms. Johnson questioned #6, the 14' from centerline on Storer Street.
Mr. Beavers stated the plat had labeled the street improvements as 13'; they needed to be 14' to
correspond with the current street standards of 28'.
Ms. Johnson clarified it was to improve one-half of Storer Street. She clarified the setback
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Mr. Sugg stated he would abstain from this item.
Ms. Johnson commented the Commission would have to determine whether they would require
money in -lieu of Cleveland street improvements and, if they did, the amount of money they
would require.
Mr. Beavers felt uncomfortable requesting any amount of money from the church for
improvement to Cleveland.
Ms. Johnson commented the cost of half of the sidewalk and the street improvement on
Cleveland would be $25,000-30,000. The city would typically receive this amount if it was a
completely new development. She asked the applicant if they agreed to the conditions of
approval.
Ms. Kim Hesse stated they did not have any conflicts with the conditions.
Mr. Tucker stated he was comfortable granting a waiver for fewer parking spaces.
• Ms. Johnson questioned if there was on -street parking available for the church.
Ms. Little commented the streets were narrow, but there was on street parking available on the
north side of Cleveland and on the west side of Oakland.
Ms. Johnson questioned if the City would build sidewalks when they constructed Cleveland
Street in 1998 and 1999.
Mr. Beavers stated the sidewalks would be built by the City; adding Engineering did not feel
sidewalks should be built by the church at this time.
Mr. Odom ask Mr. Beavers about his reservations for taking money in -lieu from the Church.
Mr. Beavers explained the proposed addition was relatively small compared to the existing
facility and the amount of traffic generated by this expansion would be insignificant.
Ms. Johnson asked the total square footage of the addition and the total square footage of the
existing facility.
Ms. Hessy stated the existing facility was approximately 3300 square feet and the addition was
approximately 50% of the existing structure. She asked the Commission to be flexible when
considering the sidewalks, explaining the church had no problem with making improvements to
their site but they wanted the improvements to benefit the patrons of to church. They also felt a
• sidewalk along Cleveland would not be as beneficial as a sidewalk along Oakland. Their plat
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was presently showing a sidewalk along Oakland, which had not been required, but the Church
felt it would help connect other sidewalks in the neighborhood.
Ms. Johnson questioned the length of the proposed sidewalk on Oakland.
Ms. Hessy replied it was approximately 250', adding the sidewalk along Cleveland would be
approximately 267'.
Ms. Johnson questioned why there were no requirements for a sidewalk along Oakland.
Mr. Allred
asked if the City would be asking any
of the other adjoining property owners
along
Cleveland
to participate in the improvements.
master street plan
had
Mr. Beavers responded only an active, on going development would be required to participate.
Mr. Allred questioned if the improvement would be made whether or not the church was building
an addition.
• Mr. Beavers stated the City would do the improvements in 1998 and 1999.
Mr. Allred commented that, if the Commission accepted Ms. Hessy proposal then, the City
would be getting a sidewalk on Oakland and all the property owners on Cleveland would be
getting improvements at the City's expense.
Ms. Little stated the City had a master sidewalk plan for years, but the City Council had passed
an amendment to the master street plan which would supersede the current master street plan. In
that plan Oakland was considered a local street and local streets were required to have sidewalks
along both sides.
Ms. Johnson clarified that, according the master street plan, the applicant was incorrect in saying
a sidewalk was not required on Oakland.
Ms. Little stated sidewalks were required on both sides of Oakland. She had communications
from the Sidewalks and Trails coordinator expressing his expectation of sidewalks along
Oakland.
Ms. Hessy replied
she
had spoken with Mr.
Rutherford
earlier, confirming
that the original
master street plan
had
shown the sidewalk
on the other
side of Oakland.
Ms. Little stated the City Council's resolution stated all streets local and above would have
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two subdivisions with residential streets, and Oakland was not one of them.
Mr. Tucker questioned if Storer Street was required to have sidewalks as well.
Ms. Little stated they were required and the sidewalk was shown on the plat.
Ms. Johnson questioned since Oakland was a street that required sidewalks on both sides, would
the staff change condition #6 to require Oakland Street to also be improved.
Mr. Beavers replied the City would not require improvement to Oakland Street because there
were some apartments being built south of this property and they had not been required to do any
improvements and it would not be fair to require it of the church.
Ms. Hoffman asked why sidewalks had not been required for the apartments.
Mr. Beavers responded the apartments had not gone through the large scale development process,
because they were under an acre in size.
• Ms. Little stated the apartments had pulled their building permit before September 15, before the
new sidewalk regulations were in effect. She added the Commission now had to work under the
current set of guidelines. The ordinance requiring sidewalks on both side superseded the master
sidewalk plan, which was based on the master street plan amendment.
Ms. Johnson commented the addition would increased the size of the building by over 50%.
Typically when they had new constructions they were never exempt from contributing to street
improvements.
Mr. Harbinson stated the general consensus was that both waivers should be granted; adding the
real issue was, if the Commission did grant a waiver for a sidewalk on Cleveland, whether or not
they would require a payment in -lieu and what that amount would be.
Mr. Forney stated he would support both of the waivers, but he would not support a payment in -
lieu that was more than U7 of the cost of the sidewalk, because the facility would only have an
impact on the neighborhood one day of the week. He would also vote in favor of a motion that
did not require any in -lieu payment.
MOTION
Mr. Forney moved to approve the item subject to the conditions listed deleting item #7 requiring
money in -lieu for the street and sidewalk improvements on Cleveland street.
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Mr. Allred seconded the motion.
Mr. Odom stated he would vote against the motion because, although he was in favor of the
waivers, he was not in favor of exempting the church from money in -lieu. He added the
Commission had treated churches the same as other developments in the past and he felt the
motion gave the church special treatment.
Mr. Tucker stated he would also vote against the motion, based on # 7. He thought a 1/7
contribution would be a reasonable amount.
Mr. Harbison question Mr. Beavers why the staff had not recommended an amount for the money
in -lieu.
Mr. Beavers stated their recommendation had been zero.
Mr. Harbison questioned if Mr. Beavers would be able to tell the Commission what 1/7 of the
cost would be.
• Mr. Beavers replied it would be approximately 1/7 of $30,000, but they could ask the applicant's
engineer to provide the City with a detailed cost estimate.
Ms. Hoffman stated she would vote in favor of some participation in the improvements to the
sidewalks.
The roll was called. The motion failed 3-5-1, Johnson, Odom, Reynolds, Hoffman, and Tucker
voting nay. Sugg abstaining.
Ms. Johnson observed this was the first she had ever heard of treating a church as a 1/7
participant in infrastructure. She thought if they started the 1/7 approach they would have to
justify why this one church was allowed this and not any others. She suggested using a portion
of the development.
MOTION
Ms. Johnson
moved
to approve
the item subject to the
staff recommendations, with $10,000 as
the required
amount
of money in
-lieu for the sidewalk
improvements to Cleveland.
Mr. Reynolds seconded the motion.
Mr. Harbison questioned how she had arrived at the $10,000.
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Ms.
Johnson explained the
addition would
be 1/3 of the size of the total building
and the cost of
the
improvement would run approximately
could
$30,000. One-third of $30,000 would
be $10,000.
The roll was called. The item was approved unanimously, with Mr. Sugg abstaining.
Ms. Hessy asked for clarification, questioning if the sidewalk on Oakland would still be required
explaining it would make a difference in the church's budgeting.
Ms. Johnson asked why she did not want the sidewalk on Oakland.
Ms.
Hessy stated
they were faced with a budgeting
situation and,
until they had received all their
cost
estimates, it
could
make a difference whether or not it would
be built.
Ms. Johnson stated it was the chairs opinion that the project had been approved with the
understanding that Oakland was to have a sidewalk.
Ms. Little stated the Planning Commission had the responsibility to decide the cost of the off-site
improvements. The methodology they were to use was the rough proportion or rational nexus.
• Usually the City would require improvements to street and sidewalks along the applicants
frontage.
Ms. Johnson questioned why the staff had not required any improvements to Oakland.
Ms. Little responded they had not asked for improvements to Oakland, but the Sidewalk and
Trails coordinator was expecting to have sidewalks along Oakland and Storer.
Ms. Hessy stated she had spoken with Mr. Rutherford and he had told her that the sidewalk on
Oakland was not required.
Ms. Little stated the sidewalk on Oakland was reflected in his report.
Mr. Harbison questioned if a sidewalk had been required on Oakland.
Ms. Little
stated
the
report did
not say that
it was not required
but the Commission
had to rely on
what was
shown
on
the plat as
what they were expecting to be
built.
Ms. Johnson stated the chair would rule that the motion did not require improvements to Oakland
Street but did require the sidewalk to be built along Oakland and a $10,000 contribution for
improvements to Cleveland.
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LSD96-35.00: LARGE SCALE FOR ARBY'S
FLINTCO, INC.- S. OF W. 6TH ST. AND E. OF RAZORBACK DR.
The next item on the agenda was submitted by Flintc, Inc. for property located south of W. 6th
Street and east of Razorback Road. The property is zoned C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial, and
contains 1.09 acres. The request will provide an Arby's immediately east of the existing Sonic.
The staff recommended approval subject to the conditions listed:
1. Dedication by warranty deed the right-of-way necessary to provide a total of 55' from
centerline of Hwy. 62 (6th Street).
2. Trees and landscaping proposed must meet the recommendation of the City Landscape
Administrator for location and size.
3. Asphalt sidewalk to be replaced with 5' concrete sidewalk and access ramps as shown on plat.
4. Provide an additional fire hydrant and supporting 8" water line ( as shown on the plat) at the
south side of 6th street at the east entrance to the property.
5. Revision of plat to show the following:
a. Addition of plat page 521 to title block.
• b. Addition of street lights, fire hydrants, sidewalks, etc. to legend
c. Show location of sign.
d. Show property owner to the north.
e. Dimension all easements.
6. Staff approval of the detailed plans, specifications and calculations where applicable for
grading, drainage, water, sewer, streets, sidewalks, parking lot and tree preservation. All
improvements to comply with the City's current requirements.
7. Supplement grading ad drainage plan with erosion control details and resubmit with permit
application prior to any construction.
8. Submittal of easement plat prior to building permit being issued, any necessary revision of
easement plat to be completed prior to issuance of certificate of occupancy.
9. The LSD approval will be valid for one calendar year.
Mr. Neil Erickson, representative, stated he had a signed copy agreeing to the conditions listed.
Ms. Little stated the width of isle had been narrowed, moving the parking closer.
Ms. Hoffman asked if there were too many parking spaces and how they had calculated the
parking.
Ms. Little
explained
the parking
had been calculated based on the
number of employees
plus one
space per
table. She
added they
were meeting the requirement.
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Ms. Hoffman asked if that was the standard way to calculate parking.
Ms. Little stated it could also be calculated based on square footage, but they had discovered
through work that it needed to be based on number of employee plus number of expected
cliental. This new method had been passed by an amendment through City Council.
MOTION
Mr. Odom moved to approve the item subject to the staff conditions.
Mr. Reynolds seconded motion.
The roll was called. The item was approved unanimously.
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PP96-6.20: PRELIMINARY PLAT FOR CHARLESTON PLACE (A P.U.D.)
GREG HOUSE -N. OF MISSION & E. OF AMBER
The next item on the agenda was submitted by Greg House for property located north of Mission
and east of Amber. The property is zoned R-1, low density residential, and contains
approximately 12.84 acres with 69 lots proposed. The proposed development is a residential
Planned Unit Development with one public street connecting Hackberry Drive and Amber Drive
( with a center round -a -bout), three private streets and a private green space (with detention
ponds).
The staff recommended the Planning Commission consider the request. If the Planning
Commission approves the proposed Preliminary Plat for Charleston Place PUD, then the
following conditions of approval are requested:
I. Staff approval of the detailed plans, specifications and calculations where applicable for
grading, drainage, water, sewer, streets, sidewalks, parking lots, and tree preservation. All
improvements to comply with the City's current requirements.
2. No waivers from any ordinances, design or construction standards or improvement to the
• development. All privately maintained streets and drainage shall be designed and constructed in
accordance with the existing City Ordinances, standards and criteria.
3. The private streets which will include private drainage, the drainage in the swales, the
drainage from the streets into the detention ponds and the detention ponds shall be privately
owned and maintained by the Developer or another private entity in accordance with the Storm
water Management (drainage) Ordinance.
4. The PUD covenants shall provide for the maintenance of the private streets, drainage and
detention and shall name the City as a third party to these covenants. The Covenants must be
approved by Planning, the City Engineer and the City Attorney.
5. All plat review comments including those written comments furnished to the applicants.
6. Payment of Parks fees in the amount of $20,700.00 at final plat.
7. The east -side entrance signage/ landscaping at Hackber y will be located west of the existing
creek/ditch.
8. The detention ponds will be designed to work with the existing trees and appear more
"natural" than a standard trapezoidal shape.
9. The existing sewer line easement shall not be vacated until the new sewer line is in service. A
separate and formal easement vacation must be requested after the new sewer line is n service.
No interruptions in service for the existing sewer line will be allowed until the new sewer line is
in service.
10. Fire hydrants and spacing shall meet the Fire Chiefs approval.
Ms. Johnson questioned #4, the reason why the City wished to be the third party to the covenant.
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Ms. Little stated that under the PUD ordinance the City was required to be a third party to the
covenants. If for some reason the home owners association did not maintain the streets or the
private areas of the development the City could make the improvements, but the City would also
charge the home owners for the maintenance to the private areas.
Ms. Johnson questioned if there was any additional information.
Ms. Little stated she had additional information regarding the calculation of the amount of open
space and the allowed density. Under R-1 zoning (4 units were allowed per acre) the allowable
density for the property would be 51 units. If the applicant had chosen to develop a 30% open
space PUD, then the allowable density would be 51 units. With the additional 5% open space,
35%, the allowable density was 96 units. The applicant was presenting a 35% open space PUD
with 69 units proposed (18 more units than what would be allowed under the R-1 density). She
added there was an alternate way to calculate open space: for each additional lot an additional
2,200 square feet of open space. If they were to use the alternate method, the total open space for
69 units would be 3.30 acres. The applicant was offering 4.49 acres for 69 units.
Mr. Forney questioned if the greater density was by right or negotiable. He quoted from section
• 160.121 (E)(2)"the following density bonus is provided for additional open space... Only one of
the above density bonus methods may be granted" he suggested that "may be granted" would
allow for some flexibility in granting the bonuses.
Ms. Little pointed out there were two paragraphs under subparagraph E of § 160.121: the first
paragraph stated the density of the PUD would be the same as the underlying density and the
seconded paragraph discussed density bonuses, "In addition to the dwelling unit density
otherwise permitted, the following density bonus is provided" She stated the section continued
into the open space provision " with 35% open space the permitted dwelling units per acre is
7.5." Staff had always interpreted the section as if the developer gave the 35% open space, they
were permitted 7.5 units per acre. She commented Mr. Forney's idea of negotiating the density
bonus would depart from what they had done in the past. She also quoted from paragraph B
subparagraph 5, "Screening and buffering in reference to type, dimensions, and character." She
indicated the Commission had the ability to prescribe additional screening and buffering if they
felt it was necessary. The Planning Commission had the ability to say the developers could not
have the density they would like, although it was a departure from how the Commission had
treated it in the past. She thought they would be on sounder footing in regard to screening and
buffering to say the developer was permitted the 7.5 units per acres because they had given the
35% open space; however, in addition to that, they would need additional screening and
buffering.
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Ms. Little replied it would, but they had only proposed 69 units (18 units over the allotted
density).
Mr. Harbison stated
in the past the density bonus
had been read as a matter of right.
The difficult
question for him was how the open space and the
setback area would fit together. The developer
had also been given
the option between the two methods
for determining the green
space.
Ms. Little commented that if they were to use the 2,200 square feet of addition area, times the 18
additional units, they would only be receiving 1.94 acres as opposed to the 4.49 acres they were
receiving under the 35% method.
Mr.
Harbison
added
the other method not
only would
allow the
developer to
develop 69 units
but
he would
not be
required to provide as
much open
space.
Ms. Johnson stated part of the trade off with a PUD was to allow denser development in one area
and to have more green space in another area. She added, it was appropriate if there were unique
physical features on the land that would be saved. On this project there were several features: a
cemetery, an existing pond in the northeast, a spring box, and a grove of old trees that would be
• preserved in the open space provided by the PUD. She added some of the homes that were
adjacent to the property were built during a time when they were building on larger lots, but the
homes along Amber Street appeared to be 20' from their neighbors sidewalls. She questioned if
the City's current ordinances allowed construction that close together.
Ms. Little stated the side setback in the R-1 zoning was 8' for each home for a minimum of 16'
between structures.
Ms. Johnson observed that some of the homes appeared to be 16-20' apart from the sidewalls.
One of the things she had been trying to weigh was the trade off for the existing neighborhood
with this kind of broad buffered green space, versus a standard R-1 development where the
neighbors could have houses in their backyard. She added the private streets would be
maintained by the property owners association so the City would not have the expense. She
questioned Ms. Little as to any drawbacks to the public for the streets being kept private.
Ms. Little replied the only drawback would be to the residents living in the subdivision, who
would be ultimately responsible for the maintenance to Cypress, Covington, and Moss Lane, the
advantage was, there would be no setbacks on a private street.
Mr. Reed Greenwood, an area resident, questioned the criteria a PUD would have to meet and
who would certify if the conditions had been met. He quoted from the PUD ordinance four
criteria that must be met in order to approve a development: more efficient use of land, more
• efficient use of public facilities, more usable open space through structured grouping and other
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design techniques, and preservation of appropriate natural or physical features.
Ms. Johnson stated the Planning Commission would decide if the PUD had met the
requirements.
Mr. Greenwood stated he had several concerns. The first was the practicality of placing 96 units
on 7.47 acres. He suggested for housing of this density they were looking at a condo or apartment
complex by a different name. The density issue was a major concern for him, as well as the
congestion of traffic, schools, etc. He added he had invested a lot of money building retaining
walls and french drains to accommodate all the springs and the runoff in the area. He felt any
development on the hillside should be limited in density and that both surface and underground
drainage be evaluated. Another concern was that the development was totally out of character
for the neighborhood. This would be setting a precedent if they allowed lots this small to be built
as single family residential adding the green space should be in the lawns not common ground.
He suggested Mr. House was taking advantage of the planning regulations and argued this was a
subdivision that had twisted the City ordinances. He questioned how the old farm lane would
serve the residents, which was counted as green space.
• Mr. Tom Pevehouse, an area resident, submitted a petition with a total of 284 signatures.
Dr. William Bailey, an area resident, suggested this development was designed basically for
greed, not to add green space or to assist in better utilization of land. He added it did not meet
any of the requirements of a PUD. The ordinance talked about strenuous exercise such as soccer
and football. He questioned where they would play soccer and football. He questioned how the
Commission could consider that all the requirements had been made, other than legal, by the
manipulation of the space that had been allotted by the development. He believed the item
should be voted down.
Mr. Terry Turpin, an area resident, commented the maximum width of some of the buildings
would be 25'. He asked how much of the open space would run down the private lane and how
much of the land could actually be able to be used by the people. He asked when the drainage
would be approved by the City. He added land in the flood plain could not be considered in the
open space calculation. He questioned if the wetland was more than 50%. He suggested that the
intent of the people who had drafted the PUD ordinance was not this type of development.
Mr. Mike Lyman, an area resident, questioned the math used to determine density, since they
were taking 35% for green space; but, when they calculated the density, they included the entire
12 acres. He questioned how they could use the entire 12 acres for their density if they were
required to donate 35% to green space. He questioned what it took to amend the covenants; how
long they remained intact; and if the covenants could be changed after the development had been
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Mr. Frank Farmer, an area resident, stated the density would greatly increase the traffic on
Winwood, which was the only street which connected Hwy 45 to Township. He explained that,
when this street was originally laid out, it was not a through street and was not designed for the
heavy traffic it now handled, it did not even have sidewalks. This would affect the quality of
their neighborhood. The basic character of neighborhood would change greatly. It would be
changing from a town to a city environment.
Mr. Ted Johnston, an area resident, stated from 7:00 a.m. to 8:00 a.m. they had counted 80 cars
and, with the addition of 69 units, it would increase their traffic greatly. He also expressed
concerns about the high density and the small lots. He objected to a PUD because it was so
different from the general area and stated the area should be retained as R-1.
Mr. Kim Scott, an area resident, stated the development was out of character for the surrounding
area.
Ms. Johnson questioned Mr. House about the private drive at the northern part of the property
and if the detention pond would be the entire width of the strip.
• Mr. House stated he did not know the exact size of the pond, but they were proposing a trail
system around the property which would allow people to walk along the edge of the pond. He
added the ponds would typically be void of water after an average rain and most of the time the
area would be dry. They would try and leave most of the trees, even the ones in the middle of the
catch basin.
Ms. Johnson questioned the length of the private access and acreage contained in the strip. She
asked what other uses were planned for the area and if it would be landscaped.
Mr.
House stated
there were some beautiful existing trees.
They
had planned on incorporating it
into
the trails but
had not discussed further landscaping.
approximately half of an
acre which was included
Ms. Little stated she had
used an average number
in the calculations
of the strip of land: an
average distance of 700'
and average width of 35'
resulting in 24,500
square feet or
approximately half of an
acre which was included
in the green space
calculations.
Ms. Johnson questioned if any of the property was in the flood plain.
Ms. Little stated they had the certification from the surveyor that, according to the FEMA official
designation, none of the property was in the 100 year flood plain.
Ms. Johnson clarified that on all the City's maps it did not show any of the land was in the flood
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Mr. Odom questioned the minimum size homes that would be allowed by the restrictive
covenants.
Mr. House stated they had listed 1,000 square foot as a minimum to allow for some flexibility for
the smaller lots but, there would be a variety of size of lots. Their intention was to build high end
smaller homes. Their goal was to have a variety of homes from 1,000 square feet to 2,000 square
feet depending on the market.
Ms. Johnson questioned the setback requirements.
Ms. Little stated the side setback for a PUD was 5' and there had to be a minimum of 10' between
structures; along public streets there was a 25' front setback requirement but along private streets,
there were no front setback requirements.
Mr. Harbison questioned if they were take out the half acre for the access drive would the
developer still meet the 35% requirement.
Ms. Little did not believe he would.
is Mr. Harbison questioned if they removed the strip the developer would not receive the density
bonus.
Ms. Little replied he would not, but she had not allowed the applicant to count any of the area
utilized for utilities, because the City had a number of utilities that believed they must clear their
utility easement. She explained she did not believe cleared easements met the spirit and intent of
the ordinance as far as meeting the open space and the buffering requirements. The regulations
did not tell her she could not count the utility easements. They would meet the requirement if
they were allowed to count the utility easement.
Mr. Harbison stated the ordinance was not flexible as to the density provided the developer met
the green space requirement. If the developer met the requirements, he had the right to that
amount of density.
Ms. Little stated the developer could chose the other method for calculating green space and they
would have less green space.
Mr. Harbison question if there was 35% of useable green space.
Mr. Forney questioned if the ponds had been calculated as green space. He also asked the
definition of wetlands.
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Ms. Little stated they had counted the pond in the open space calculations because it was useable
for recreation purposes such as fishing, sailing toy boats, etc.
Ms. Johnson questioned why some of the denser development was not on the southern edge and
what items were in the covenants that would comfort some of the neighboring residents.
Mr. House responded
they
did not
have an objection to switching some of the lots around,
provided they did not
have
to start
the process over again.
Ms. Little stated they did not like to see the lots change more than 2-3% without going through
the process again. The other thing the City liked to do was to check with the utility companies to
make sure any changes that might be made after they had seen the plat would not disrupt their
service plans.
Ms. Johnson question the maximum number of lots possible on the southern edge of the PUD.
Mr. House stated he could make lots 10-44 into three lots, if he could narrow lots 1-6 at the south
east comer of the property. There would not be an increase in the total number, but rearranged.
• Ms. Johnson asked if they would be able to handle the changes administratively.
Ms. Little stated it would be easier on lots 1-3 than it would be for 4-6, but she thought they
could work it out.
Ms. Johnson question if there were any covenants that Mr. House was willing to bind himself to
that might ease some of the fears of the neighbors.
Mr. House stated he had provided a copy of the covenants, and there were some details on what
could and could not happen with some of the homes. He explained his intentions were to make
the development very tasteful and high end from the structure and design standpoint. He wanted
the development to have a traditional feel (as dictated in the covenants) and there were details on
the types of trim, the height of the ceilings, a certain budget, which had to be spent on
landscaping, etc. After 20-25 years, the covenants would expire but the home owner association
would not.
Ms. Hoffman questioned any provision in the covenants for off street parking.
Mr. House responded every lot would have to provide enough off street parking to accommodate
the use of the home. A two bedroom home would have less parking than a five bedroom. They
were requiring garages.
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Mr. Forney commented he would like to see a more specific number for parking.
Mr. House replied they would be willing to state a minimum number.
Ms. Hoffman questioned what the parking requirements would be for a two bedroom apartment.
Ms. Little stated it was one per bedroom.
Ms.
Johnson
asked if the additional
covenants relating
to the trim and ceiling
heights, etc. gave
any
sense to
the unit cost.
maintenance agreement with
the City as a third party.
Ms. Little stated each of the items indicated high quality construction. They were items that,
when the appraisal done, they would get extra credit for having these features.
Mr. Sugg questioned if Mr. House intended on being the only builder.
Mr. House replied that was his intention.
• Ms. Hoffman questioned if the same design standards applied when the lots were sold separately.
Mr. House responded they would and, in addition, there was an architectural control committee.
Mr. Tucker questioned if the City would have any involvement with the property owners
association after 20 years.
Mr. House responded the property owners association did continue.
Ms. Johnson questioned the City's role in the covenants in the association after 20-25 years.
Ms. Little stated the City
would be
the third party to the maintenance agreement forever and that
any changes to covenants
would have
to be approved by the City
Council. All of the areas held
in common had to have a
perpetual
maintenance agreement with
the City as a third party.
Ms. Johnson stated the PUD needed to meet certain requirements that he commission had to
specifically look at. Section 160.121 (A). ..... To be approved, a PUD must comply with... all of
the following purposes: more efficient use of land; more efficient use of public facilities; more
useable open space through structure grouping...; and preservation of appropriate natural or
physical features."
She went on to read in (B) " The Planning Commission shall not approve any PUD unless the
• Commission expressly finds that satisfactory provision has been made...: ingress/egress to the
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property... off street parking and loading areas where required... refuse and service areas
utilities...; screening and buffering ..." etc.
Mr. Forney expressed his belief the first four of the conditions had been met. The PUD did use
the land more efficiently as well as public facilities; it did preserve appropriate natural or
physical features (the pond and the existing trees). He did have concerns that the Commission
"must expressly find that satisfactory provision had been made concerning the following: ingress
and egress... off street parking... and open space requirements.
Mr. Harbison commented he had been looking at the same list and had reached the same
conclusions that the only problematic item was ingress and egress.
Ms. Johnson stated the PUD had a connection to the east and to the west which connected to
Mission and Old Wire. She questioned their specific concerns.
Mr. Forney questioned if the traffic generated by the additional 18 units would be better handled
if there was a third access (the existing lane at the north edge going out to Old Wire). He advised
he did not think it would be a good idea because of the houses to the north and south. He did
• not know the effects of the additional 18 units, but he did generally support additional density in
this area.
Mr. Harbison agreed with Mr.
Forney. He
questioned Mr.
Beavers if the additional 18 units
would create traffic problems
since there were only two access points.
Mr. Beavers did not believe the additional 18 units would have a large impact.
Ms. Hoffman
questioned
if the Planning Commission
could require stop signs to be placed at
certain areas.
housing
type, lot size and
• frontage requirements and thus promote uniformity of sizes
Mr. Beavers suggested they make the recommendation to the Traffic Department.
Mr. Harbison questioned if all the commissioners agreed that the requirements of (A) and (B) of
section 160.121 had been met.
Ms. Little replied they were dealing with the zoning ordinance. They were to use the same
criteria as they would for any other zoning decision. She added they were also required to use
the requirements set out in (A) and (B).
Mr. House commented it was not a zoning request. He
quoted from the
general 2020 plan,
"The existing zoning districts separate housing types by
density,
housing
type, lot size and
• frontage requirements and thus promote uniformity of sizes
and
density.
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consistent with the General Plan 2010 principles, this land use plan establishes a policy for
residential areas to be planned as traditional neighborhoods containing a mix of different density
and housing types and lot sizing." That was what they were proposing. They were wanting to
change the density and the lot size some, but they were creating a nice buffer between the new
and the old development.
Mr. Forney concluded the applicant had met the open space requirements.
Mr. Tucker
questioned the wording on the covenants, section
32 the second paragraph. He
stated
he assumed
Mr. House's intent was that the streets were to be
maintained to City standards
by the
home owners association or by the City if the property owners association failed.
Mr. House did not have a problem inserting that language.
Ms. Little stated the covenants had not been reviewed by the legal staff and there would be some
changes, but they would have the final version at the time of final plat. She added the PUD was
the only type of development that was required to present the covenants with the preliminary
plat.
• Mr. Harbison commented the Commission must find that the development was consistent with
the current land use objectives, principles, and policies.
Mr. Odom stated he would vote against the PUD but not because he did not think it was a good
thing. He thought it accomplished what the 2010 plan was trying to do. He contended PUDs
were the way they ought to do things since they offered great buffers from adjoining
neighborhoods and great security with the neighborhoods knowing exactly what would be
constructed. He stated it was a mistake but, with the large outcry from the neighborhood about
the density requirement, he was going to respect their wishes.
Mr. Tucker stated he would be voting in favor of the item with or without the small alterations
Ms. Johnson had recommended. He asked if not here, where would this type of development
occur, unless it was further out where they would not get the benefit to the infra structure
savings to the city. He was convinced the restrictive covenants plus the additional items Mr.
House had offered indicated a high quality development would occur. He felt there was a bias
that small lots also indicated poor quality in houses.
Ms. Hoffman believed the developer had the best of intentions and she would be voting in favor
of the project.
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MOTION
Mr. Forney moved to approve the PUD with the following alterations: in the covenants item #17
require off site parking for a minimum of one up to three vehicles depending on the number of
bedrooms; item 32, which Mr. Tucker had addressed; and the additions to item #15, which
included ceiling heights and trim.
Ms. Johnson questioned if he wished to include the idea of decreasing the number of lots in 40-
44 and increasing the lots in 1-6.
Mr. Forney stated that was not his proposal.
Mr. Tucker seconded the motion.
Mr. Allred questioned the appeal process.
Ms. Little stated appeals were sent to the City Council within 10 days.
Mr. Sugg commented he would be voting in favor of the PUD. He felt it was truly an infill
project and it was appropriate and would improve the neighborhood. He felt changing the
density of lots 40-44 would help.
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Ms. Johnson moved
to amend
the motion
so
that the area
with lots 40-44 would be
reconfigured
to three lots and the
additional
lots could
be
moved to the
area between lots 1-6.
Ms. Hoffman seconded the amendment.
The roll was called and passed by a vote of 7-2-0. Odom and Allred voting nay.
Ms Johnson stated the motion was to approved the PUD with the change detailed on item #17 in
the covenants, the change detailed item #32 in the covenants and the inclusion of the proposed
additions to item #15 with the amendment of the five lots in the north part being limited to three
lots and the other two lots being made up in the southeastern part of the development.
The roll was called and the PUD passed by a vote of 8-1-0. Odom voting nay.
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RZ96-18.00: REZONING TO C-2
JOYCE OGDEN NE CORNER OF CATO SPRINGS RD & TREAT ST.
The next item on the agenda was submitted by Ronald Woodruff on behalf of Joyce Ogden for
property located at the northeast corner of Cato Springs Road and Treat Street. The property is
zoned R-2 (Medium Density Residential) and contains approximately 10. 19 acres. The request is
for a rezoning to C-2 (Thoroughfare Commercial).
The staff recommended approval of the rezoning as requested based on the designation of this
area in General Plan 2020 as Regional Commercial. General Plan 2020 states the purpose of
regional commercial development is to "maximize and enhance the existing regional commercial
areas of the City and to create regional identity". Section 6.4e under Regional Commercial:
Implementation Strategies reads as follows, "Direct new regional development into designated
regional commercial centers". This area (71 Bypass intersection with U.S. 71/ Razorback
Road/Cato Springs Road) is specifically designated as a new center" of regional commercial
activity.
Mr. Tucker questioned if the property was in the overlay district. He added the 2020 Plan did
• show this area as regional commercial, but it also preferred nodule type development.
Ms. Little stated a portion of the property was in the overlay district. The 2020 plan tried to
place more neighborhood commercial in nodes regional commercial was placed in areas that
would attract from various regions.
Mr. Sugg stated the area should be used as residential.
Ms. Johnson questioned the number of residents now on the property.
Mr. Woodruff stated there were two existing homes on the site.
Ms. Johnson commented she could not remember an area where a five -lane highway had gone in
first residential. She had seen the reverse where a five -lane had gone through an existing
residential area.
Mr. Sugg defended the City encouraged it by zoning it commercial.
Ms. Johnson did not believe the property would develop as residential. She noted that, if they
did not rezone the property to commercial, it would probably just sit there undeveloped.
Ms. Hoffman did not believe there was a need for the entire tract to be rezoned commercial. The
• frontage would be appropriate, but the back of the tract was reaching into a residential
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neighborhood. To rezone the entire tract for a dense commercial use would be excessive.
Mr. Woodruff responded residential was not practical for this tract of land because of the railroad
toward the back of the property. They would have five lane highways on two sides and a railroad
track to the rear.
Ms. Johnson questioned the street in the northeast corner.
Mr. Woodruff stated it was used as a driveway for Mr. Treat, the adjacent neighbor.
Mr. Harbison commented he was leaning toward denial of this request. The Planning
Commission bylaws instructed that they must determine that there is a current need in the City
for the rezoning as of the date for the proposed rezoning. Fayetteville now had more than 400
acres of undeveloped C-2 land, most of which they had rezoned in the last year and half. He
could not see the need for additional C-2.
Mr.
Sugg
commented this area was
to be the new gateway into Fayetteville. His concern was
that
there
was too much C-2, he felt
C-1 would be more appropriate.
• Mr. Tucker stated one benefit was that it was in the overlay district.
Ms. Little replied about half of the property was in the overlay district, but did include most of
the frontage.
MOTION
Mr. Odom moved to approve the rezoning.
Mr. Allred seconded the motion.
Mr. Forney stated he would oppose the rezoning for the same reasons that he opposed
designating this area as regional commercial when they passed the land use plan. He explained
that the proximity to the Highway 62 intersection was too close. The City did not need two
different nodes that close together. He would be consistent and oppose the rezoning.
The roll was called. The rezoning failed by a vote of 3-6-0, Harbison, Sugg, Forney, Reynolds,
Hoffman, and Tucker voting nay.
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CU96-27.00: CONDITIONAL USE (PP528)
ROBERT EITER-N.OF HUNTSVILLE RD & E. OF STONE BRIDGE RD.
The next item on the agenda was submitted by Robert Eiter for property located north of
Huntsville Road and east of Stone Bridge Road. The property is zoned C-2, thoroughfare
Commercial, and contains approximately 1.45 acres. The conditional use request is for a Dance
Hall.
The staff recommended approval contingent upon the following:
1. Inspection by Fire Marshall and Building Inspector.
2. Compliance with the noise ordinance, including section 96.04, limiting maximum noise levels
by land use.
3. Provide 25 parking spaces, two of which must be ADA accessible, and landscaping.
Applicant must obtain a parking lot permit and drainage permit if additional parking is required
by Planning Commission.
4. Compliance with conditional use criteria, section 160.195 with specific regard to refuse
location, lighting and glare, and signage.
Is Ms. Johnson asked if the Planning Commission could regulate the hours of operation for a dance
hall.
Ms. Little stated they could not.
Mr. Odom asked the zones in which dance halls were allowed by right.
Ms. Little stated there were no
zones by
right.
They were
only allowed as a conditional use in C-
2, C-3, and C-4 zoning.
go. Mr. Eiters
right to have
a business was less than their
right to have a quite safe
Ms. Isaacs, an
area resident,
expressed concerns about the
dance hall becoming a nuisance with
drinking and loud noise. She added there was an existing
facility nearby for the young people to
go. Mr. Eiters
right to have
a business was less than their
right to have a quite safe
neighborhood.
She thought
this would be one of the worst
possible uses for this property.
Ms. Johnson asked Ms. Isaccs how close she was to the proposed dance hall.
Ms. Isaccs replied she lived .3 miles.
Ms. Gliss, an area resident, stated she was opposed to a dance hall at this location expressing
concerns for the residents safety. She added there had been a shooting in the area a couple of
. months ago.
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Mr. Gottenspiren, an area resident,
was opposed to the dance
hall because of the increased traffic
by people who had been
drinking.
There would also be an increase in the noise level. He added
it would have a negative
impact on
property values as well as
continued developments.
Ms. Little commented they were changing the existing use of the building from a bar to a dance
hall.
Mr. Reynolds asked if the Commission had dealt with the owners of Speedy Sports Bar, the
previous occupants.
Ms. Little stated a bar was a use "by right" under C-2, adding the only reason the applicants were
before the Commission tonight because the Council thought dance halls should be looked at
more closely, in regard to parking and intrusion into adjacent neighborhoods.
Mr. Reynolds commented that the place had been closed up before because it had been such a
nuisance. He asked how many time the police had gone to this establishment and how much of a
nuisance it was to the neighbors.
• Mr. Lane stated the police department had only been out to the sports bar once and that was two
days ago for a bugler alarm.
Mr. Harbison commented they could still have a bar; the conditional use was to allow dancing.
Mr. Sugg asked if the noise ordnance would still be in effect.
Ms. Little stated the noise ordinance would be in effect whether or not there was dancing.
Mr. Tucker asked if the ownership had changed.
Ms.
Little did
not think the ownership
had changed,
but the person who was leasing the property
had
changed.
Mr. Tucker asked if they had a liquor licences.
Mr. Robert Eiter, stated their intent was to have a restaurant and a dance floor.
He added the building was well insulated and noise would not be heard outside.
Mr. Gottenspire asked if this was the same building as the sports bar.
Ms. Johnson stated it was the same building as Speedys Sports Bar. She questioned if Mr. Eiter
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Mr. Eiter stated they were not even in the area when it was in operation.
Ms. Little questioned if they intended to serve liquor.
Mr. Eiter stated they had applied for a beer and wine permit to go along with the restaurant.
Mr. Odom asked if they were currently operating the restaurant.
Mr. Eiter stated they opened the restaurant last Thursday.
MOTION
Mr. Forney moved to approve the conditional use.
Mr. Tucker seconded the motion.
Ms. Little stated the staff would like to add an additional condition: If there were complaints
within one year the staff could bring the item back to the Commission for further review.
0 Mr. Forney agreed with the condition.
The roll was called.
The item was approved
by a vote of 6-3-0.
Harbison, Reynolds, and
Hoffman voting nay.
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CU96-28.00: CONDITIONAL USE (PP486)
ALLTEL MOBILE -150 NW SKYLINE DRIVE
The next item on the agenda was submitted by Carrick Inabnett on behalf of Alltel Mobile
Communications is a conditional use request for a communications tower (monopole). The
property is located at 150 NW Sklyline Drive and zoned P-1, Institutional.
The staff recommends approval of the conditional use request contingent upon the following:
1. A building permit application for the 55" concrete pad and for the proposed equipment
building.
2. No razor or barbed wire on proposed fence.
3. Proposed lighting be directed downward away from adjacent properties.
4. Additional requirements as determined by Planning Commission.
Ms. Johnson stated the applicant had agreed to all the conditions. She commented the applicant
had a 20 year lease with the Western Methodist Assembly. She added there had been some
discussion on requiring the tower to be located on the City water tower, but the City would be
• doing something with the tower in a couple of years.
Mr. Karrick Inabnett, representative for Alltel, pointed out on the conditions for the concrete pad
would be a concrete foundation for the tower and there would be a 4X9 concrete pad for a
generator tank should it need to be brought in during an emergency lost of power.
Ms. Johnson stated the City would like to have all the towers located in one place. She added
they were hoping that tower users would be able to use the same tower.
Ms. Little stated they had discussed the feasibility of other companies with similar requirements
to locate on this tower. It had been her understanding that it would be possible. The City would
require a Bill of Assurance stating that Alltel would allow others to lease space on their tower at
a reasonable price.
Ms. Alisa Cofield, Alltel Mobil, stated that Alltel as a company would entertain all location
request.
Ms. Johnson questioned if under their lease did they have the power to sublease to other people
wanting to use the tower.
Ms. Cofield stated they were able to sublease under the standard terms of their agreement.
Mr. Beavers asked it the City of Fayetteville would be conceded any special conditions if the
traffic department wanted to move its antenna from the water tower to this tower. Would they
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Ms. Cofield replied they would entertain the request, but any applicant would have to submit
antenna requirements, what type of transmissions they would be operating, the frequency. All
applicants would be required to submit the information, so they would not be having interference
problems as well as a structural analysis to make sure that any additional antennas could be
supported by the tower.
MOTION
Ms. Hoffman stated it was not her intent to approve any additional towers at this location. She
moved to approve the conditional use subject to staff recommendations and a bill of assurance
stating they would let others sublet space on the tower.
Mr. Allred seconded the motion.
Ms. Johnson rephrase the Planning Commission would require as a condition a bill of assurance
from Alltel that they would approve any reasonable request for other tower users to go on this
site.
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Mr. Harbison suggested approved request provided they meet the technical requirements.
Ms. Johnson suggested the language that Alltel would approve any reasonable request so long as
they were technically and structurally feasible.
Mr. Reynold questioned what would be screening the tower after construction.
Mr. Inabnett stated that a number of the trees would remain in place.
Mr. Reynolds
requested
the Landscape
Administrator work with Alltel to obtain a pleasing end
result.
Mr. Forney asked the purpose of the platform at the top of the tower..
Ms. Cofield stated the platform would hold the antenna.
Mr. Forney question how they would get the tower on site and what color it would be.
Mr. Taylor stated it would be brought in sections, it would be painted sky blue.
The roll was called and the item was approved unanimously.
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CU96-29: CONDITIONAL USE FOR A STUDENT CENTER
CHURCH OF LATTER DAY SAINTS -NE CORNER OF ARKANSAS AVE. & REAGAN
ST.
The last item on the agenda was a conditional use to allow a student center was submitted by
Karl Friar on behalf of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints for property located at the
northeast comer of Arkansas Avenue and Reagan Street. The property is zoned R-3, High
Density Residential, and contains approximately .037 acres.
The staff recommended approval contingent upon:
1. Approval of a variance from setback violations, southern portion of structure. A variance will
also be required on the west side setback if the applicant intends to cover the porch.
2. Compliance with § 160.117, Off -Street Parking, with regard to spaces (20 required, one must
be ADA accessible), landscaping, and application of a parking lot permit and drainage permit.
3. Compliance with conditional use criteria, section, § 160.195 with specific regard to refuse
location, and ingress/egress, and that any proposed lighting be directed downward away from
adjacent properties.
• Ms. Johnson stated they had on file from the applicant approving the conditions.
Mr. Sugg questioned the proposed parking area, was it a parking lot.
Ms. Johnson asked Ms Little to explain the approval from the variance from setback violations.
Ms. Little explained on the south side of the lot a bay window and a portion of the rear building
was extended into a portion of the 25' front setback.
MOTION
Mr. Allred moved to approve the item subject to staff comments.
Mr. Reynolds seconded the motion.
Ms. Paula Marinoni, an area resident, thought the proposed use was a good use for this site, but
she was concerned about the 20 space parking lot. There were three large trees. She asked if
they could reduce the parking to 18 spaces. She also requested if Beth Sandeen could consult
with them to lay the parking lot around the trees to allow for more water to get to the roots of the
trees. She added she would like to see the character of the area maintained and thought this
would help.
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Ms. Johnson questioned if the Commission had any authority to do anything about trees.
Ms. Little stated they did have authority. She had looked at the property particular how they
would access the parking lot off Arkansas and there was adequate space for them put a drive in
that would allow access into the center portion of the lot. There would be enough room for the
20 spaces and the perimeter trees could be salvaged easily, there may be one tree in the center
that might not be able to be saved.
Ms. Johnson questioned if they were to approve this conditional use would the motion need to
have something specific relating to the trees.
Ms.
Little replied she like
to be as clear as
possible and suggested they make it a requirement.
She
suggested adding it to
the conditions.
Mr. Sugg questioned where the number for the 20 spaces had come from.
Mr. Lane responded it was based on the proposed number of students in the center.
• Mr. Sugg did not believe there was a use for 20 spaces and asked if they could share the drive as
opposed to making a new curb space. He also suggested using a permeable materials for the
parking lot to preserve the area as much as possible.
Mr. Forney questioned if any of the other student centers around campus that had parking. He
suggested that Arkansas Avenue had some of the best on street parking in the area.
Ms. Little reponed that Reagan Street and Arkansas Avenue was completely lined all day, every
day.
Mr. Sugg asked when the main use of the facility would occur.
Mr. Friar stated Monday thru Friday there would be walk on traffic from the University campus.
On Sunday from about 10:00-2:00 would be the highest amount of use of parking, at this time
there would be the lowest usage for the parking on Reagan and Arkansas. Presently, they had
limited parking maybe 4-6 spaces. The 20 spaces would be the highest most demand on a
Sunday afternoon.
Ms. Johnson asked if they could live with less than 20 spaces, because of the parking on the
street and across the spaces.
Mr. Friar responded they could get by with 16-18 spaces.
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Mr. Tucker questioned the previous use of the property and the existing parking.
Mr. Friar answered it was a sorority and the there was approximately 6 spaces in the back of the
lot.
Mr. Tucker questioned how many people had lived in the sorority house.
Ms. Little stated they had asked preliminary questions about the sororities, but they did not find
any one with any answers.
Mr. Harbison questioned if they could limit it to 12 spaces.
Mr. Friar stated he could not make that decision, they would have to ask one of the regional
offices of the church.
Mr. Robert Boyce stated they taught religion education classes at the facility on a weekly bases,
people would come from the community as well as campus and would need places to park.
During the week Arkansas and Reagan were full with student parking and they would need to
• provide parking for the people who would attend the classes at the center. Twenty parking
spaces would be ideal, but they would be able to live with less. If they went with much less there
would not be enough parking for the people who regular attended classes.
Mr. Allred suggested they vote on the motion and if it failed they could arbitrate the number.
The roll was called and the motion failed, 4-5-0. Johnson, Harbison, Forney, Hoffman and
Tucker voting nay.
MOTION
Ms. Hoffman moved to approve the conditional use subject to staff comments with two changes,
that 18 spaces only be allowed and the landscaping would be approved by the Landscaping
Administrator.
Mr. Reynolds seconded the motion.
Mr. Tucker commented this was a conditional use and would be a good time to request that
permeable materials be used on the parking lot. He would support 18 parking spaces if they
would use permeable materials for the parking lot.
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Mr. Tucker proposed an amendment that the parking lot be paved with permeable surfaces.
Mr. Harbison seconded the motion.
Mr. Forney stated he would opposed the amendment because a compacted gravel lot would not
perk. There would also be handicaps accessible space on gravel. He preferred to go with the
City standard parking lot.
Mr. Beavers commented he was under the impression they were talking about the turf block
parking. They did have engineering design data that did show they did percolate.
Ms. Johnson did not think they had enough information to change the City requirements for this
parking lot. They had already reduced the number of spaces to save the trees.
The roll was called. The amendment failed by a vote of 4-5-0. Johnson, Odom, Allred, Forney,
and Reynolds voting nay.
MOTION
• To approve the conditional use subject to the staff comments with the changes and only 18
parking spaces and the landscaping be approved by the Landscape Administrator.
The roll was called and the item was approved by a vote of 7-2. Forney and Tucker voting nay.
The meeting adjourned at 10:15pm.
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