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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE
FAYETTEVILLE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
A meeting of the Fayetteville Planning Commission was held on
Monday, December 9, 1991 in the Board of Directors Room on the
second floor of the City Administration Building, 113 West Mountain
Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Jack Cleghorn, Jana Lynn Britton, Fred Hanna,
J. E. Springborn, Jerry Allred, Mark
Robertson, and Charles Nickle
MEMBERS ABSENT: Joe Tarvin and Jett Cato
OTHERS PRESENT: Alett Little, Don Bunn, Sharon Langley,
members of the press and others
MINUTES
The minutes of the November 25, 1991 Planning Commission meeting
were approved as distributed.
PRELIMINARY PLAT - RIDGEWOOD SUBDIVISION
JIM PHILLIPS & RICK ROBLEE - E OF OLD MISSOURI, S OF ZION
The second item on the agenda was a request for approval of a
preliminary plat for Ridgewood Subdivision submitted by Dave
Jorgensen on behalf of Jim Phillips and Rick Roblee. The property
is located east of Old Missouri Road, south of Zion Road and is
zoned A-1, Agriculture (with R-1, Low Density Residential proposed)
and contains 25.61 acres with 16 lots.
Mr. Bunn stated the preliminary plat had been submitted on October
10th and to the Subdivision Committee on October 17th. He
explained the plat had been scheduled for the October 28th Planning
Commission meeting but had been pulled from the agenda by the
developers.
Mr. Bunn further stated there had been no significant comments or
issues raised by the utility companies at the Plat Review meeting
other than some additional utility easements, which had been agreed
to by the owners. However, staff raised two issues concerning the
main road into the subdivision. He explained the first issue was
that the name of the street should be Stearns Street since it lined
up directly with Stearns on the west side of Old Missouri Road. He
stated the staff had also recommended that a street easement of 50
feet should be provided to the east side of the subdivision to
allow for eventual extension of Stearns Street on to the east and
eventually Highway 265.
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• Mr. Bunn stated the other issues discussed at the Plat Review
meeting were the location of sidewalks and drainage.
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Mr. Bunn explained the Subdivision Committee's discussion centered
mainly on the question of whether the right-of-way should be
extended on to the east. He stated the item had been tabled and
there had been no recommendation from the subdivision committee.
Mr. Bunn recommended the preliminary plat be approved subject to
the plat review committee comments; submittal and approval of the
plans for water, sewer, street, and drainage construction; a Bill
of Assurance for the construction of a sidewalk on Old Missouri
Road; payment of parks fees as required by city ordinance; the
granting of a street easement of 50 feet for the eventual extension
of a street through the subdivision to the east along Stearns
Street extended; and the naming of the street entering the
subdivision "Stearns Street". He explained the recommendation did
not include the construction of Stearns through the subdivision but
at some point in the future it could be extended.
In response to a question from Ms. Britton, Mr. Bunn explained the
width of the frontage was measured at the setback line. He further
explained the frontage could be reduced around a cul-de-sac.
Ms. Britton noted there were several lots in the proposed
subdivision with dual access points but neither frontage measured
70 feet. She also pointed out that the end of the cul-de-sac to
the north would be five driveways.
In response to a question from Mr. Allred, Mr. Bunn stated the
frontage could be reduced by 80% on a cul-de-sac.
Mr. Jorgensen pointed out the frontage was measured at the setback
line and they did have adequate frontage. He also noted they were
requesting lots 8 and 9 be tandem lot.
Mr. Bunn pointed out that Lot 8 did have frontage on Old Missouri
Road so it would not be a tandem lot.
In response to a question from Ms. Britton, Mr. Jorgensen explained
that the two accesses for Lot 11 were requested by the owners.
Ms. Britton pointed out a potential problem in making the access a
throughway from the cul-de-sac.
Mr. Jim Sybert, representing the owners, appeared before the
Commission and stated they could solve the problem regarding two
accesses for Lot 11. He explained the second access was planned
because the area was very steep and the owners were trying to
provide access for trucks during construction of the houses.
Mr. Jorgensen informed the Commission there would not be access
from Old Missouri Road other than from Stearns Street.
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In response to a question from Ms. Britton regarding Lot 7, Mr.
Bunn stated all of the lots (1 thru 7) had the necessary frontage
on Old Missouri Road in order to be a legal lot. He explained the
regulations did not require that the 70 -foot frontage be available
on the same street that the access was located.
Ms. Britton asked a question regarding a previous subdivision on
the west side of College. She asked if the right-of-way had just
been dedicated or if the street was going to be built to the
property line.
Mr. Bunn stated the street would be built to the property line but
the owner also owned the property to the west which he would be
developing.
There was also discussion regarding the name of a portion of
"Stearns Street" now being Joyce Boulevard..
Mr. Jorgensen explained he believed the main issue on this project
was the providing of 50 feet of right-of-way to allow for future
construction of a through street. He stated Mr. Sybert would
address the issue of a through street.
Mr. Sybert explained the area was quite hilly and wooded. He
discussed preservation of some of the trees in the area. He also
explained they believed the east -west cul-de-sac should be named
something other than "Stearns" in order to avoid confusion since it
would be a cul-de-sac.
Mr. Sybert stated it would kill the subdivision to put a through
street in. He explained the property was on the edge of hill,
already burdened with numerous easements. He pointed out the
vicinity of both Joyce Street and Zion Road and stated he did not
believe the city needed another east -west through street only 1,000
feet from Joyce Blvd. He informed the Commission that, should
Stearns become a through street from Highway 265 to the
intersection of Stearns and Joyce, it would be a traffic disaster.
He stated the street also did not need to be a through street to
accommodate the adjoining property owner. He explained there were
numerous tracts of land for sale that would provide access to the
adjoining property. He expressed his opinion that the area needed
more north -south streets between Joyce Street and Zion Road than it
did east -west streets between Highways 265 and 71.
Mr. Sybert presented the Commission with a map of the area,
pointing out the roads in the area. He pointed out that further
south Rockwood Trail and Manor Lane, if connected, would have
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Highway 265 (Crossover Road). He stated that had not been
required.
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Mr. Sybert submitted that, since this property was on the side of
a hill, the banks were very high. He stated the land did not lend
itself to the installation of sidewalks.
Ms. Francis Rudco, representing the owner of the adjoining property
to the east, explained there was only one access to the property
through Lisa Lane. She stated there were plans to develop the
property within the next year and a half. She expressed her belief
that the city should require further access to that property at
this time.
In response to a question from Mr. Allred, Mr. Bunn stated the
extension of Stearns was not on the Master Street Plan. He further
stated sidewalks were required on both sides of Old Missouri Road.
Ms. Britton pointed out the Master Street Plan had not been updated
in quite some time and it was very logical to not cut off access to
other property in the area. She explained it was proposed to
extend Stearns to Gregg. She expressed her belief that it was
quite important to extend Stearns Street as much as possible.
Mr. Sybert again pointed out the adjoining property owner could
purchase other property to give access to his property. He asked
why Joyce Boulevard would not be sufficient.
Ms. Britton explained there were already several pieces of property
that had dedicated land for Stearns Boulevard.
Mr. Cleghorn stated when the proposed tract came before the
Subdivision Committee there had been discussion of finding another
location for Stearns. He explained the developer was supposed to
find an alternative route.
Mr. Sybert explained another route would not work.
In response to a question from Mr. Allred, Mr. Bunn explained he
did not know if Stearns would ever reach Highway 265. He further
explained he believed it would be a good idea for Stearns to go to
265 but staff's request related to circulation through
subdivisions.
Mr. Allred stated, if the owner could work out a compromise
granting extension of Stearns into some other areas, that could be
a viable alternative.
Ms. Britton informed the Commission that at the subdivision meeting
they had attempted to compromise with the owner by allowing Stearns
• to go to the south of the subject property. She explained they had
requested the owners provide only half of the right-of-way for a
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road £o the south. She stated the petitioner was not interested in
that compromise.
Mr. Sybert explained the entry to the subdivision would then be off
a steep hill. He asked if they were requesting this be done to
provide a through street to Highway 265 or just to accommodate the
adjoining land owner.
Ms. Little stated staff's motive was to have a pathway for Stearns
Street to be extended from Highway 71 to Highway 265. She
explained they would be requiring that from any developer along the
proposed route. She further explained the Fire Department had
described numerous instances of problems due to lack of
circulation. She stated the Master Street Plan had not been
updated in the last 20 years.
Mr. Sybert pointed out that in Paradise View there had been an
excellent opportunity to make a through street but none had been
required. He expressed his belief they were asking for the right-
of-way to accommodate the adjoining property owner.
MOTION
Mr. Robertson moved to accept the preliminary plat based on all
comments and recommendations by staff including the providing of a
50 -foot easement and all recommendations and comments by the
appropriate committees.
Ms. Britton seconded the motion.
Mr. Allred stated he wished they would be able to accommodate
everyone on this matter. He noted that from the plat it appeared
to be a nice development. He further stated he would like to see
the problems worked out.
Mr. Robertson stated staff had attempted to work with the
petitioners on compromise by showing alternatives on circulation
but the petitioners had not been willing to compromise.
In response to a question from Mr. Cleghorn, Mr. Bunn explained
that, should the petitioners and staff work out a compromise, the
city would require a replat unless it was a very minor change.
Ms. Little stated that, should a replat be required, she believed
they would be able to waive any additional fees. She stated they
could amend the motion to that effect.
• Mr. Robertson amended to his motion to include that a replat of
this property not be subject to additional fees.
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Ms. Britton seconded the amended motion.
The motion passed 4-3-0 with Commissioners Britton, Springborn,
Cleghorn, and Robertson voting "yes" and Commissioners Nickle,
Hanna and Allred voting "no".
Mr. Allred informed the petitioners the matter could be appealed to
the Board of Directors.
Mr. Bunn explained the procedure would be that the petitioner would
need to contact a member of the Board of Directors because only a
Board member could appeal to the Board of Directors.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING 91-23
JIM PHILLIPS & RICK ROBLEE - E OF OLD MISSOURI, S OF ZION
The next item on the agenda was a request for a public hearing on
Rezoning 91-23 submitted by Dave Jorgensen on behalf of Jim
Phillips and Rick Roblee for property located east of Old Missouri
Road and south of Zion Road for property containing 25.61 acres.
The request is to rezone A-1, Agricultural to R-1, Low Density
Residential.
Mr. Allred stated the applicants wished to table this item.
MOTION
Ms. Britton moved to table the rezoning hearing.
Mr. Cleghorn seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING R91-27
JIM WATSON - S OF HUNTSVILLE RD, E OF JERRY AVE.
The next item to be heard before the Planning Commission was a
request for approval of Rezoning R91-27 submitted by Jim Watson and
represented by Tom Hopper. The property is located on the south
side of Huntsville Road (at the south side of the intersection of
Crossover Road and Huntsville Road), east of Jerry Avenue and
contains 8.81 acres. The request is to rezone A-1, Agricultural,
and R-1, Low Density Residential, to C-2, Thoroughfare Commercial.
Ms. Little explained the tract consisted of three parcels,
containing 15.4 acres but the zoning request was just for 8.81
acres, leaving the remainder of the tract as A-1. She stated the
surrounding zoning was R-1 to the east, west and northwest, A-1 to
the south and C-2 to the northeast. She further stated land uses
included single family residential, agricultural, and with the C-2
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portion was being undeveloped. She explained that from a land use
perspective the subject rezoning could allow commercial services to
support an area of future of growth in the southeast.
Ms. Little stated Huntsville Road (Highway 16) was currently
heavily travelled and the intersection with Highway 265 was a
difficult intersection. She further stated the subject
intersection had been identified in the CIP plan as the next
priority for installation of a traffic signal. She informed the
Commission that Highway 265 was designated as a collector street
and Highway 16 (Huntsville Road) was designated as an arterial
street.
Ms. Little further informed the Commission that the Watsons would
submit a large scale development plan. She explained this was
importance since there was an existing flood plain on the subject
property. She also stated the issues of fill and grade would have
to be addressed at the time of the presentation of the large scale
development.
Ms. Little recommended approval of the rezoning primarily because
it was located at the intersection of two major streets (a proper
location for commercial zoning; traffic control being addressed by
the installation of the traffic signal; and the large scale
development review would provide an opportunity to address
development problems specific to the site.
Mr. Hopper appeared before the Commission to answer any questions
they might have.
MOTION
Mr. Hanna stated he believed the Watson Supermarket was a very
important part of Highway 16 and moved to grant the rezoning as
requested.
Mr. Nickle seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously.
CONDITIONAL USE 91-26 - HOME OCCUPATION (BEAUTY SALON)
DONETTE RATZLAFF - 2905 OLD WIRE RD.
The fifth item on the agenda was a request for approval of a home
occupation for a beauty salon submitted by Donette Ratzlaff for
property located at 2905 Old Wire Road and zoned R-1, Low Density
Residential. Mr. Allred explained the applicant had requested this
item be tabled.
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MOTION
Ms. Britton moved to table this item.
Mr. Springborn seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously.
The Commission then recessed in order to present proclamations in
honor of Commissioners Hanna, Springborn, and Robertson. The term
of office of all three Commissioners will expire before there is
another Planning Commission meeting.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - ADAMS STREET TOWNHOMES
GLENN SOWDER - SW CORNER OF ADAMS ST. AND GREGG AVE.
The sixth item on the agenda was a request for approval of a large
scale development for Adams Street Townhomes presented by Dave
Jorgensen on behalf of Glenn Sowder for property located at the
southwest corner of Adams Street and Gregg Avenue. The property is
zoned R-2, Medium Density Residential.
Mr. Bunn explained the large scale development consisted of seven
new townhouse units located on .70 of an acre. He further
explained there were three existing houses on the property facing
Gregg Street. He stated there were comments from the utilities
regarding a proposal to connect the existing houses. He explained
there were certain criteria that would need to be met as far as the
point of entrance of the utilities. Mr. Bunn stated sewer would
have to be extended from the west to serve the new units.
Mr. Bunn recommended approval of the large scale development
subject to the plat review and subdivision comments; the granting
of all required utility easements by separate instrument;
reconstruction of the sidewalk and curb along Gregg Street; and the
payment of parks fees as required by ordinance. He explained there
was a possibility that work would be done by the city on Gregg
Street but it was not in the Capitol Improvement Plan at this time.
He further explained he had not required any off-site improvements
to Gregg Street.
In response to a question from Ms. Britton, Mr. Jorgensen stated he
had spoken with Greg Fields regarding the location of the dumpster.
He informed the Commission they had made a change in the parking so
no one would have to back out onto Adams Street. He explained Mr.
Fields did not see a problem with the proposed location of the
dumpster.
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MOTION
Ms. Britton moved to approve the large scale development in
accordance with the recommendations of staff.
Mr. Nickle seconded the motion.
The motion carried unanimously.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - STOCKLAND DAY CARE
THOMAS STOCKLAND - S OF HAROLD, W OF SHERYL
The next item on the agenda was a request for approval of a large
scale development for the Stockland Day Care presented by Dave
Jorgensen on behalf of Thomas Stockland for property located south
of Harold Street and West of Sheryl Avenue. The property is zoned
R -O, Residential -Office.
Mr. Bunn stated there were no significant comments by the utility
companies at the Plat Review meeting; however, staff had comments
regarding the number of parking spaces. Staff requested a
reduction in the spaces, if possible, and encouraged the addition
of landscaping.
Mr. Bunn recommended the large scale development be approved
subject to plat review and subdivision committee comments, granting
of all public easements by separate instrument, the approval of a
grading plan, and a Bill of Assurance for sidewalk construction on
Harold Street. He explained the City had scheduled the widening of
Harold Street within the next year.
Mr. Nickle explained at the subdivision committee meeting they had
identified the following problems: size of radius at the entrance
drive; distance between subject intersection and K -Mart driveway;
the need for a variance due to lack of distance between the subject
entrance and K -Mart entrance; and the possibility of a left turn
lane since the road will be extended to the south as access to the
adjoining property.
Ms. Britton expressed concern that the radius would be even smaller
should a left turn lane be installed.
Mr. Jorgensen stated it was a very good idea to have a left turn
lane but it would reduce the turning radius. He pointed out the
subject property had 50 feet of frontage along Harold Street. He
explained the distances and radius between the subject road and K -
Mart and Southwestern Bell. He stated he did not believe there was
a large enough radius for a left turn lane.
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Mr. Bunn stated the radius was fine but he had not looked at the
distance between driveways. He stated he believed Mr. Jorgensen
would need to apply for a variance.
Mr. Jorgensen verbally applied for a variance.
In response to a question from Ms. Britton, Mr. Jorgensen stated
they would be putting pipe around the gas meter at the curb.
MOTION
Mr. Hanna moved to approve the large scale development subject to
the plat review and subdivision committee comments and providing a
variance for the curb cut if it was needed.
Mr. Springborn seconded the motion.
The motion passed 6-0-1 with Commissioners Britton, Springborn,
Nickle, Cleghorn, Hanna and Allred voting "yes" and Commissioner
Robertson abstaining.
CONCEPT PLAT - FOSTER/BROPHY SUBDIVISION
MARK FOSTER/RALPH BROPHY - N OF RIDGELY DR., W OF CROSSOVER RD
The next item on the agenda was the presentation of a concept plat
for the Foster/Brophy Subdivision presented by Dave Jorgensen on
behalf of Mark Foster and Ralph Brophy for property located north
of Ridgely Drive and west of Crossover Road. The property is zoned
R-1, Low Density Residential and contains 40 acres with 68 lots.
Mr. Bunn explained this was a concept plat and there was also a
part of the concept plat, Phase I, which was going to be presented
as a preliminary plat as the next item on the agenda. He stated
this subdivision was just south of Park Place, Phase VI. He stated
the main issue raised at the Plat Review meeting was whether there
should be a through street planned to the east between Lots 1 and
24. He explained street connections to the west were not possible
because of existing development and the same was true for any
connection to the north. He stated the concept plat did appear to
meet the subdivision regulations.
Mr. Jorgensen explained the reason for the concept plat was to show
the overall plan and how it fit in with other developments in the
area. He stated he had tried to provide an adequate traffic flow
pattern. He informed the Commission that within the next month
another phase of Park Place would be presented to them and this
subdivision would tie into that phase. He stated the plan was to
extend a street into the next phase of Park Place which would then
go in an easterly direction to Highway 265. He pointed out the
only point of ingress/egress to the subject subdivision was
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Ridgely. He agreed that it was not the best location for an
ingress/egress but stated it was the only point available. He
further stated there had been numerous discussions regarding making
the entrance from Ridgely a safe intersection. He explained he
intended to work further on the intersection but not at this point
since this was a concept plat.
Ms. Maryann Bassett, a resident of the area, appeared before the
Commission and expressed her concerns regarding the drainage,
additional traffic, and removal of the last large area of trees in
the vicinity. She stated she believed 68 lots was too high of a
density for the area. Ms. Bassett explained there was already a
drainage problem in the neighborhood and the addition of 68 lots on
40 acres would cause more problems. She also pointed out there was
a commercial area on the corner, a church, and a road into Park
Place Subdivision all within less than a quarter of a mile. She
stated traffic was already lined up during rush hour along Highway
265. Ms. Bassett also mentioned that, due to the sewer line being
installed incorrectly, numerous people in the area were unable to
tie on to the existing line. She expressed hope that would be
corrected. She requested the Commission carefully review the
concept plat with potential problems in mind.
In response to a question from Mr. Allred, Mr. Bunn explained the
drainage study was done at some point after preliminary plat
approval.
Mr. Nickle stated he was aware the subject area had a drainage
problem. He reminded the Commission they had required one of the
phases in Park Place Subdivision to have a retention pond. He
explained that with a concept plat there was not enough information
provided to determine what drainage easements were needed.
Mr. Allred pointed out staff would be able to address all of Ms.
Bassett's concerns except the lot size. He explained lots had to
meet a minimum size and the city could not require a developer to
have larger lots in certain subdivisions.
Mr. Buddy Babcock, a resident of the subject area, appeared before
the Commission to reinforce comments made by Ms. Bassett. He
stated that, due to the drainage problems in the area, common sense
would limit the density of the property. He also requested some of
the greenspace be saved.
Mr. Allred again explained the zoning code set the minimum size of
the lots.
Mr. Bunn stated the minimum lot size was 8,000 square feet and the
minimum frontage of 70 feet.
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Mr. Jorgensen stated he would talk to the developer regarding
reducing the density. He explained that, after approval of a
preliminary plat, they would work on the drainage problems so the
drainage would not adversely affect surrounding property. He
further stated he would review the problems with the sewer line
with the city engineer.
Mr. Paul Noland expressed his belief that the existing drainage
structure would not accommodate any additional water. He further
stated he was concerned about the limited ingress/egress to the
subject property. He suggested limiting the number of lots.
In response to a question from Mr. Allred, Mr. Bunn explained that
a vote was not required on a concept plat. He further explained
that the main problems discussed would have to be answered in the
Phase I preliminary plat. He suggested it might be reasonable to
have larger lot sizes in Phase I and then gradually have smaller
lot sizes as they developed the area to the north. He explained
the ordinance gave the Planning Commission some leeway based on
neighborhood standards.
Ms. Britton asked how this development would connect with Park
Place Subdivision.
Mr. Jorgensen explained Phase III of the Foster/Brophy Subdivision
would connect with Phase VIII of Park Place.
Ms. 'Britton suggested switching Phase II and III if Park Place
would open access more quickly, giving alternative directions for
traffic.
Mr. Jorgensen stated there would not be a problem in switching
phases if Park Place was developed at the same pace.
Ms. Britton stated she was suggesting they try to coordinate the
development of the two subdivisions in order to alleviate some of
the traffic problems.
Ms. Janette Millar, a resident of Shadow Ridge Drive, requested the
Commission consider the density of the property before approving
the plat.
Mr. Springborn stated that another subdivision had previously been
brought before the Planning Commission with minimum density for
development. He explained that the Planning Commission and City
Board of Directors had required larger lots for that subdivision.
Ms. Millar also requested the Commission consider continuing the
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Mr. Hanna stated density could be limited due to the traffic flow.
He expressed concern that traffic from 68 houses would all have to
exit the subdivision from one entrance. He suggested asking Mr.
Jorgensen to consult with the owners regarding less density. He
explained it would be very poor planning to have only one point of
ingress/egress. He stated the Commission could take a vote and ask
the owners/developers to reconsider the number of homes in the
subdivision. He pointed out they had refused developments because
a cul-de-sac was more than 500 feet long.
Mr. Allred suggested listening to any other comments by those
present, then vote on the concept plat with the Commission's
recommendations to be given to the developer for their review.
Ms. Millar further pointed out that with construction of the
subject subdivision, there would be no buffer or greenspace between
Shadow Ridge and the subject tract. She also questioned where the
utility easement would be located for the new subdivision.
Mr. Allred stated the easements would be noted on the preliminary
plat.
Mr. Jorgensen pointed out the lots adjoining Shadow Ridge were
• approximately 300 feet deep in order to allow for a utility
easement and buffering. He requested tolerance on the size of the
lots. He explained the developer constructed very nice homes not
tract housing. He also pointed out there was a point when
oversized lots made a development economically unfeasible.
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Ms. Little explained the regulations under Concept Plats read as
follows: "The Planning Commission will review the proposed
subdivision, considering all applicable city plans and ordinances."
She further explained they needed to give consideration to minimum
lot sizes."
Mr. Nickle explained the subdivision committee had discussed how
the proposed street entered in conjunction with Ridgely Street. He
pointed out that it did not appear to meet accepted engineering
practices. He stated the street came in at a 90° angle to Ridgely.
He further stated that, with the traffic that would be generated,
the street was not a good situation unless it was re -oriented.
Mr. Nickle also noted that, with the drainage problems in the area,
they might require retention basins which could affect the layout
and density of the lots.
Mr. Allred pointed out that was one of the disadvantages of a
concept plat because it did not address many of their concerns.
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Mr. Nickle stated he had some problems with approving the plat and
he did not have adequate answers to his questions, especially the
traffic problem.
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Mr. Jorgensen explained the concept plat was submitted for their
information and he was not sure it was necessary to vote on it. He
agreed with Mr. Nickle that the intersection was not a good way to
tie into Ridgely. He stated they would be doing further work on
the intersection. He further stated that he would discuss the lot
size with the owners.
Mr. Cleghorn stated he believed the neighbors were not requesting
the lots be as large as those that were adjoining, but wanted them
larger than shown on the plat.
Ms. Britton stated her concern was not the size of the lots but the
impact 68 families would have on the land, particularly the traffic
flow. She pointed out that in the first phase there would be 26
homeowners funneled through an existing subdivision. She suggested
Phase I be downsized.
Mr. Jorgensen stated he would discuss her suggestion with the
owners. He pointed out that Ridgely was the only place the
subdivision could get access. He further stated he believed they
could design a good intersection. He explained he believed that,
when Park Place was completed, more traffic would go to the north
to Highway 265, relieving the Ridgely intersection.
Ms. Britton stated she would like a "slow down" of the development
of the subject subdivision until Park Place provided the northerly
access.
Mr. Allred stated the Commission did not have the prerogative to
slow down development of a subdivision.
Ms. Britton stated she knew they did not have that prerogative but
there would be less of an impact after Park Place was developed.
Mr. Bunn stated staff had recommended in Phase 3 between Lots 1 and
24, a 50 foot access easement. He further stated he would like to
see that as part of the approval so there would be access to the
east should Park Place Subdivision did not develop the last phase.
Mr. Jorgensen pointed out that was already added to the plat.
Mr. Cleghorn reminded the Commission that one of the educational
packets they had received had said they could deny a subdivision if
it did not conform with the surrounding subdivisions. He further
stated there had been some court cases. He further stated staff
had to go by code but the Planning Commission had more leeway. He
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stated he would have a hard time voting favorably for the plat
because he was hearing there were so many problems -- street
problems, lot size problems, drainage problems. He suggested
tabling the plat until the developers had addressed the problems
and the planning commission's concerns.
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Ms. Little explained that the regulations on concept plats said the
Planning Commission would determine any potential problems which
could result in refusal to approve a final plat. Following the
planning commission meeting the planning administrator would advise
the developer in writing of the review comments. She explained a
concept plat was a review function for the commission and approval
or disapproval would come at preliminary and final plat stages.
She stated they had accomplished what was required of them by
ordinance by bringing the problems out.
Ms. Little advised Mr. Jorgensen he needed to take the comments
made by the Commission under advisement and prepare a preliminary
plat which would come before the Commission.
Mr. Allred explained he would like to have a motion with the
requirements or the concerns the Planning Commission felt
necessary. He further explained their concerns would be in the
minutes and a written report could be given to the developers so
nothing would be left for interpretation.
MOTION
Mr. Hanna moved the developer be advised that the concept plat met
all of the requirements of the City of Fayetteville's ordinance as
written; however, the Planning Commission did request that the
developer address the ingress from Ridgely Drive, the size of the
lots, the drainage, and the connection to the east to Park Place
before presenting the preliminary plat.
Mr. Springborn seconded the motion. He stated he was not sure the
Commission could address the drainage prior to the filing of a
preliminary plat.
Mr. Allred explained they could make their concerns known.
In response to a question from Mr. Cleghorn, Ms. Little explained
the motion was only to inform the developers of their concerns and
a preliminary plat would have to be presented to the Planning
Commission.
The motion passed unanimously.
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PRELIMINARY PLAT - FOSTER/BROPHY SUBDIVISION
• MARK FOSTER/RALPH BROPHY - N OF RIDGELY DR., W OF CROSSOVER RD.
The next item to be presented to the Commission was a request for
approval of a preliminary plat for Foster/Brophy Subdivision
presented by Dave Jorgensen on behalf of Mark Foster and Ralph
Brophy for property located north of Ridgely Drive and west of
Crossover Road. The property is zoned R-1, Low Density Residential
and contains 14.20 acres with 26 lots.
MOTION
Mr. Nickle moved to table this item.
Ms. Britton seconded the motion.
The motion passed unanimously.
FINAL PLAT - REPLAT OF LOT 30 - ROYAL OAKS SUBDIVISION
E. J. BALL - N. OF KANTZ LN, OFF KANTZ COVE
The next item to be presented to the Commission was a request for
approval of a final plat for the Replat of Lot 30 - Royal Oaks
Subdivision, submitted by Dave Jorgensen on behalf of E. J. Ball
for property located east of Kantz Lane, off of Kantz Cove. The
property is zoned R-1, Low Density Residential and contains 4.2
acres with 4 lots.
Mr. Bunn stated there were no significant comments on the plat. He
recommended approval of the final plat subject to plat review and
subdivision committee comments; the execution of a contract for the
installation of the sewer line; the granting of the necessary
easements for the construction of the sewer line; and the payment
of parks fees as required by city ordinance.
MOTION
Ms. Britton moved to approve the final plat subject to staff
comments. Mr. Springborn seconded the motion. The motion carried
unanimously.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mr. Allred reminded those Commissioners with expiring terms that,
according to the bylaws, they would serve until their replacements
were appointed.
The meeting adjourned at 7:30 p.m.
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