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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE
FAYETTEVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
A meeting of the Fayetteville Planning Commission was held on Monday, April 25,
1988 in the Board of Directors Room of the City Administration Building, 113 West
Mountain Street, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Butch Robertson, B.J. Dow, Jerry Allred,
Ernie Jacks, Julie Nash, Gerald Klingaman,
Fred Hanna
OTHERS PRESENT:
Don Bunn, Larry Wood, Donna Caudle, Beth
McMillan, Andy Kitsinger, Claudia Smith,
Bassett, members of the press and others
• PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING R88-6
DONNA CAUDLE - 3274 LEE AVE
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J. E. Springborn,
Gerald Seiff, and
Crocker, Clarence
Harry Gray, Mary
The first item of consideration on the agenda was rezoning petition R88-6
submitted by Donna Caudle of 3274 Lee Ave. Request was to rezone Lots 28, 29,
and 30 Maplecrest Add., (.72 acre), located at the northeast corner of Lee Ave.
and Bertha St., from R-1 (Low Density Residential) to C-1 (Neighborhood
Commercial) to be allowed to keep 16 children and have a sign.
Planning Consultant Larry Wood recommended that the Planning Commission not
consider a change to a C-1 district and consider an R-2 or R-0 district in its
place indicating that he felt: 1) a C-1 zone at that location would be an
intrusion into a residential area and would set precedent for the conversion of
other single-family houses to commercial uses; and 2) an R-2 or R-0 District
would establish a transition from the commercial uses to the north and west to
the single-family to the east and south.
He noted that a child care facility is a use
and the R-0 district under use unit 4, so the
continue if she applied for a permanent use.
on appeal in both the R-2 district
current child care facility could
Also, he researched and found that
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in 1980 an application was filed on the 3 lots west of this property for C-2
district and R-0 district. The applicant requested the application be tabled and
has never asked for it to be removed from the table.
Chairman Jacks asked if he was correct in the understanding that Lee Street
doesn't exist from Bertha Street on to the shopping center as an official city
street.
Don Bunn answered it stays as a non -city street and apparently there is no
interest in improving it. Chairman Jacks stated that on the map he has it shows
Lee Street stopping and it doesn't indicate it going on to the shopping center.
Mr. Wood stated that in plat book it shows it as a 20' right-of-way all the way
to the north end of the property.
Commissioner Allred asked if this child care facility was being operated now on a
conditional use. Mrs. Caudle answered, yes.
Commissioner Seiff asked Mr. Wood, if they were to deny this, what would her
options be. Mr. Wood answered that she would be able to continue to operate with
the 10 child restriction and no sign. Chairman Jacks clarified that the present
conditional use has a 10 child restriction and she wants to be able to have 16.
Mrs. Caudle asked if she could change to an R-0 district if she can't have the C-
1 district. Chairman Jacks answered that was one of the propositions held by the
Planning Consultant. Mrs. Caudle stated that she would like to be able to put
up a sign and be able to keep more children because she is having to pay minimum
wage for one helper and with only 10 children it's hard to do and pay her bills.
Commissioner Hanna stated that he assumed under this rezoning request that the
neighbors have been advised and he was surprised that no one was here to object
to it. He stated that, when the property to the west across the street from her
had proposed for a rezoning, some of the neighbors had came to the meeting and
said that there were some restrictive covenants in that subdivision. Mrs. Caudle
noted that she had talked with her neighbors and none had any objection to it.
Commissioner Robertson asked that if it were rezoned to R-0 or R-2 could she keep
16 kids there but couldn't have a sign. Don Bunn answered, yes, she could not
have a free-standing sign. Commissioner Hanna stated that in R-0 she could have
a 4 x 4 sign on her house.
Commissioner Springborn asked as to the Planning Commission options, if they
elect not to approve the request, can they at this time grant another zoning.
Chairman Jacks answered, yes.
Commissioner Seiff stated that what he is concerned about is the possibility if
they grant a Commercial zone that she might close the business and move, then
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someone else could put any commercial use there.
Commissioner Dow stated that she was also concerned about approving a C-1
district because future owners could put something in there that would not be
appropriate. She was in favor of the proposal to change it to R-0. She asked
Mrs. Caudle if R-0 district would be appropriate for her uses. Mrs. Caudle
answered that she really wanted to be allowed to have a free-standing sign.
MOTION
Commissioner Allred moved to grant an R-0 zone. Commissioner Hanna noted that
they would have to turn down the C-1 zoning first. Commissioner Allred then
amended his motion and moved to deny the request as stated and grant a rezoning
to R-0, seconded by Hanna. The motion to deny the rezoning request of C-1 and to
grant an R-0 zoning passed 9-0-0.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING R88-7
ROLLING HILLS BAPTIST CHURCH - 1400 ROLLING HILLS DRIVE
The second item on the agenda was consideration of rezoning petition R88-7
submitted by Rolling Hills Baptist Church and represented by Beth Crocker.
Request was to rezone a 6.79 acre tract of land located at the northeast corner
of Rolling Hills Drive and Elizabeth Ave., from R-1 (Low Density Residential)
District to P-1 (Institutional) District.
Planning Consultant Larry Wood's recommendation was to grant the P-1 district for
the following reasons: 1) P-1 District is the district established for large
institutional uses and churches; and 2) there is a church already established on
the property.
Commissioner Dow asked , if it was zoned P-1, could the use change. Does it have
to remain a church. Chairman Jacks stated that they could have anything
allowable in P-1 zone if it was granted.
Beth Crocker, representative for Rolling Hills Baptist Church, stated that they
are primarily here because they are wanting to expand their church and add an
auditorium. She stated that she had talked to Larry Wood and the Planning
Department and they stated that the city has gradually changed in terms of moving
towards obtaining the P-1 zone for churches that have been in an area for quite a
period of time rather than offering the conditional use.
Commissioner Klingaman asked Ms. Crocker how close the new auditorium is to
construction. Ms. Crocker answered that they would like to start construction
sometime this summer.
• Clarence McMillan, of 1437 Eton, which is on the north side of the Rolling Hills
Church property, was concerned about what the long-term plans are for the
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property. He stated that P-1 zoning lists considerable usage including riding
stables which would not be appropriate for a single-family residential
neighborhood. Their church playground noise is understandable. Sometimes there
is more noise involved with kids playing basketball under the security light late
at night. He advised that there are transients who come into the area and run
dogs, play ball, etc. His plea to the Planning Commission was to keep it
somewhat in the realm of single-family homes. Chairman Jacks explained that they
are bound to allow any thing that is allowable in a P-1 zoning if they approve
it. Chairman Jacks stated that use unit 4 is a hodgepodge of uses. He stated
that he doesn't think they have the right to expect the church to prove to them
what they are planning to do. What they need to decide is whether it is
appropriate for P-1 uses.
Ms. Crocker stated that their definition of being a good neighbor extends to more
than just the adjoining property owners. The property is being utilized by kids
playing and various groups are allowed to use the property on a scheduled basis
and some people do use it on an informal basis. They have 6.79 acres and there
isn't really a park in that particular area of the city. She stated that even if
it isn't rezoned that type of activity will continue on the property. She stated
further that it became very important, when they thought of expanding their
facilities, for the members of the church to be able to allow that kind of
activity to continue. As far as the long-range plans, the proposed auditorium
will seat about 300 people. Since that church has been there for about 15 to 20
years and they are about at capacity right now, it is time to construct a new
auditorium She advised there are no plans for any type of grammer school, high
school or anything along those lines. Down the line they might consider a
preschool or after school programs.
Mr. McMillan asked if they need the rezoning to accomplish the construction that
they are contemplating. Ms. Crocker stated that they could go back to the large
scale development plan and do it that way , but in terms of making this
apparently equivalent to other churches around it seems that the city has moved
over the past few years to putting churches in the P-1 zoning rather than putting
them in a conditional use. She stated that in terms of a large scale
development, they did present a large scale development when the church first
went in but those city records have been destroyed in the move to another
building. The problem would be coming back before the planning commission for a
large scale development plan.
Chairman Jacks stated that as he understood, she would be allowed to operate
under a conditional use in R-1 with the same uses as you do otherwise.
Commissioner Hanna stated that he would assume they would do a large scale
development plan no matter what zone when you have over an acre of land unless
you draw it up in phases. He stated that the only difference is when it is zoned
P-1 you don't have to come back and get a conditional use everytime you do more
construction. Commissioner Hanna explained to Mr. McMillan that he would have a
chance to voice his concerns when they file a large scale development such as
setbacks, screening and what use they are going to put the property to.
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Mr. McMillan asked if there is a way to A) keep the zoning the way it is with a
certain limit and B) are there zoning or rules for unsupervised play areas
Commissioner Seiff asked for clarification of whether it was necessary to have
the zoning they are requesting in order to do what they want to do. Chairman
Jacks answered, No, there are a number of churches operating in the city under
the R-1 category. Traditionally a church will be in a residential area.
Commissioner Seiff stated that he was concerned about changing the zoning because
of future use. If they can accomplish what they are wanting to do let it be
accomplished the way it is.
Chairman Jacks stated that the point is made that the P-1 zone is designed for
institutions including churches. My own view is that the P-1 ordinance is indeed
designed that way but faulted by inclusion of our Use Unit 4. Chairman Jacks
stated that Commissioner Hanna had chaired a committee of the Planning Commission
to make recommended changes to the zoning ordinance and one of them was change
Use Unit 4. Commissioner Dow asked if Use Unit 4 were changed, would it be
retroactive. Chairman Jacks answered, No, if they rezoned this as P-1 they would
go on by these rules. Commissioner Hanna stated that if it was changed where a
zoo which is listed in Use Unit 4 wasn't allowed in a P-1 zone, they wouldn't be
allowed one at a later date.
Mr. McMillan asked if the church goes off into other areas, would he then be
eligible to go the same way. Chairman Jacks answered that he would be eligible
to request a rezoning of his property too.
Andy Kitsinger of Fugitt & Associates, the architectural representative for the
church, stated that they would be upgrading the property and bringing in court
yard areas and a lot more areas for use for the church as far as congestion and
the parking. He noted that there is one entrance to the parking lot for the
driveway now and they would be adding another one just to the north of the
existing drive on Elizabeth Drive which would take off some of the congestion out
of that drive. They would be making all-around improvements on the property.
Claudia Smith (joint owner with her mother, Sue Henson) of the property right
next door to the front lot of the church, stated that she and her mother have no
objection what -so ever to the church itself expanding or to the young people
playing there on the property which does come right up to her mother's backyard.
She is concerned about the possibility of sometime in the future the church being
relocated and this property used for something else that is allowed in the P-1
zone right in the middle of a residential area.
Chairman Jacks stated that at the present time the church exists in the R-1 area
under a conditional use which undoubtedly specifies a church. He noted that Beth
had indicated that the records of this may be lost. He advised that a
conditional use is allowed for a specific use and the use that was granted in the
past was for a "church". As he sees it, he doesn't know that they have to come
back to the Planning Commission if they want to continue building a church. If
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they chose to change it to a museum or something, then that conditional use would
not function for this particular piece of property. Also, if it was zoned P-1,
then they would have all the uses available under P-1 without asking for it.
Commissioner Klingaman asked if it were rezoned P-1 and they were to come back
with a plan to build a zoo would they have to get a large scale development
approval. Chairman Jacks answered that they would have to get a large scale
development approval in any event He advised that the function of a large scale
development is to lay out roads and streets and this kind of thing to show the
way they plan to accomplish their use.
Commissioner Seiff asked Ms. Crocker what advantages would it be to her to have
the P-1 zoning. Ms. Crocker answered that it was mainly at the instigation of
the Planning Office and it seemed that their idea was that they were seeking to
bring the actual use of the property in line with the zoning. Commissioner Seiff
asked if they could accomplish what they want with it the way it is. Ms. Crocker
stated that if they could accomplish what they want it would be fine, but the
city is still looking at inconsistent uses in the zoning and in terms of long-
range zoning plan.
Commissioner Allred stated that he felt that the conditional use was a better
alternative than spot zoning. If they have a conditional use now to expand on,
they will be allowed to do what they want and the neighborhood would be
protected.
Ms. Crocker asked what the other churches are zoned on that street. Chairman
Jacks stated that there is a hodgepodge of zones around the city in these cases.
Ms. Crocker said she felt that they needed to be consistent.
Commissioner Hanna stated that it is obvious in this case that they intend to use
this as a church. He stated that he felt that the object of the P-1 zone is so
that the church can ask for it and get it in the same manner that a commercial
building asks for a commercial zone and he felt the P-1 zoning was a reasonable
request and entirely appropriate. The questions have been answered to show that
they don't intend to have a school or a football field, etc. The church will
probably expand sometime down the line to include meeting halls for youth groups
and that sort of thing.
Commissioner Robertson stated that he didn't feel that it was necessary to rezone
it P-1 because they have the ability to accomplish what they want to without
causing the concern that something undesirable from Use Unit 4 could be put in
there. He further stated that he didn't feel it should be rezoned P-1 until such
time as the zoning ordinances in the P-1 district (Use Unit 4) straightened out.
MOTION
Commissioner Robertson moved to deny the rezoning request, seconded by Nash. Mr.
McMillan commented that one concern that has been expressed in discussing this is
that as the church expands there may be a time when they want to sell some the
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property off to generate revenue for some new addition. This could cause
somebody to have part of this property and the zoning that may not be appropriate
for the area. The motion to deny the rezoning passed 7-2-0 with Blingaman and
Hanna voting "no".
Chairman Hanna advised Ms. Crocker that she can appeal this decision.
APPROVAL OF LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT - LAKE VIEW CONVALESCENT HONE
E.H. SONNEMAN - DEAN SOLOMON ROAD
The third item of consideration on the agenda was a Large Scale Development Plan
submitted by E.H. Sonneman and represented by Harry Gray for Lake View
Convalescent Home located on the west side of Dean Solomon Road. Property is
zoned A-1, Agricultural, with an area of 2.73 acres
Commissioner Dow stated that this Large Scale Development was approved at the
Subdivision Committee meeting subject to the Plat Review minutes, the private
pump sewer station being worked out and a variance on the frontage of the public
street being obtained (which is the next item on the agenda).
Chairman Jacks asked Harry Gray if he understood all of that. Mr. Gray answered,
Yes.
MOTION
Commissioner Dow moved to approve the Large Scale Development Plan subject to the
Plat Review minutes, the private pump sewer station being worked out, and a
variance on the frontage of the public street being obtained, seconded by Hanna.
The motion to approve the Large Scale Development passed 9-0-0.
REQUEST FOR VARIANCE OF THE FRONTAGE REQUIREMENT - LAKE VIEW CONVALESCENT HONE
E. H. SONNEMAN - DEAN SOLOMON ROAD
The fourth item of consideration on the agenda was a request for a variance of
frontage requirements of the public street in connection with the Lake View
Convalescent Home submitted by E.H. Sonneman and represented by Harry Gray.
Chairman Jacks asked Harry Gray if there was no public street access. Mr. Gray
answered that there is paved access to the property and, as shown on the plat,
there is the paved loop in the development. Chairman Jacks asked if the nearest
public street was Mt. Comfort. Mr. Gray answered, No, Dean Solomon Road is a
public street. The drive through Razorback Golf course is a private drive.
There is adequate paved access for emergency vehicles & trash pick-up. He noted
that there is a provision in the ordinance to allow for this variance.
Commissioner Dow added that one of the questions she asked at the Subdivision
Committee meeting was how the fire department and everyone felt about the present
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access and Don Bunn answered that the feeling was that the present access was.
adequate.
MOTION
Commissioner Hanna moved to grant the request for the variance, seconded by
Seiff. The motion to grant the variance passed 9-0-0.
WAIVER OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS ( LOT SPLIT) -FIRST SPLIT
MARY BASSETT - WEST OF HWY 265 (CROSSOVER ROAD), ACROSS FROM INWOOD LANE.
The fifth item of consideration on the agenda was a waiver of the Subdivision
Regulations (lot split) submitted by Mary Bassett. Property located south of the
Hwy 45 and Hwy 265 intersection on the West side of Hwy 265 across from Inwood
Lane and zoned R-1, Low Density Residential. Request if for the first split with
total acreage of 2.02.
Chairman Jacks asked Mary Bassett where the access from the west side she had
spoken about would be coming from. Ms. Bassett answered that it would be part of
the Park Place Development. Chairman Jacks if they intended to have an access to
Highway 265 for that lot. Ms. Bassett answered that there is property all around
this property that would be part of Park Place Development and their access, if
they do open up a road, would come through this lot on to Highway 265 on their
already existing property. They will boundary this property by 3 sides.
Don Bunn stated that the future Park Place Development would have an access from
Highway 265.
Commissioner Klingaman asked if this piece of property is part of the plan to get
their access to Highway 265. Ms. Bassett answered that from what she
understands, originally this was a tract of about 100 acres and this property was
originally part of that tract. The two acres was left off when they sold
everything else. The two acres has been intact as two acres for some time, but
it is possible that they will include this into a street to come out to Highway
265.
Commissioner Klingaman clarified that he was asking if they have to have that
piece of property to gain access to Highway 265 or can they go around it. Ms.
Bassett answered that she thought they could reroute the road to the complete
south side of that property and come off there. She added that she believed the
way they have it developed, it comes to the North and will take the edge of this
property with the road coming out to the north side of this property.
Commissioner Allred asked if this lot would be developed prior to the Park Place
Development. Ms. Bassett answered, No, this two acres at one time was part of
the whole development. She added further that this would actually be a boundary
adjustment in a way because it would be going back into what it originally was.
This will not be developed by itself, it will be included in the complete
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development there.
NOTION
Commissioner Hanna moved to grant the lot split as requested, seconded by Allred.
The motion was passed 9-0-0.
APPROVAL OF MINUTES
The minutes of the April 11th meeting were approved as mailed.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned.