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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE
FAYETTEVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
A meeting of the Fayetteville Planning Commission was held on
Monday June 8, 1987 in the Board of Directors Room of the City
Administration Building, 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Ernie Jacks, Sue Madison, Stan Green, Fred
Hanna, Butch Robertson, Gerald Seiff, B.J.
Dow and Julie Nash
MEMBERS ABSENT: Frank Farrish
OTHERS PRESENT:
Evan Wimberly, Gary Atha, Eric Lloyd, Bud
Tomlinson, David A. Cowden, Donna Weldon,
Sandra Carlisle, Larry Wood, Tessi
Franzmeier, Jerry Allred, members of the
press and others
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING R87-15
J.W. EOFF - OLD FARMINGTON RD & BYPASS
The first item on the agenda was consideration of rezoning
• petition R87-15 submitted by J.W. Eoff and represented by Ervan
Wimberly and Rick Osborne. Request is to rezone an 8.3 acre
tract of land located at the northeast corner of. Old. Farmington
Rd. and U.S. Hwy 71, from R-1 (Low Density Residential) District
to C-2 (Thoroughfare Commercial) District.
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Planning Consultant Wood's recommendation was; C-2 District is
not recommended but R -O District or R -O District and R-2 District
are recommended for the following reasons:
1. The General Plan recommends that commercial activity be
limited to the area south of Old Farmington Rd;
2. Expanding commercial activity north of Old Farmington Rd.
could establish a precedent for commercial activity along the
face of the Bypass; and
3. R -O District or R-2 District would establish a transition
between the commercial to the south and the residential to the
north.
In answer to a question from Commissioner Dow, Wood said the
General Plan for the Bypass was done in 1972 or 1973. He said
that was part of the first Hwy 62 west Plan with the adjustment
of the commercial around that intersection.
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Jacks said the Plan was revised statistically with the Bypass in
mind.
Nash said if Planning Consultant Wood felt it should not be
rezoned C-2, then she did not see any reason to rezone the
property at all. Nash asked Planning Consultant Wood if he saw
any reason for the need of R-2 or R -O zoning.
Planning Consultant Wood said opposed to R-1 "yes" in that they
were looking into the back of Walmart, Employment Security
Office, and Sines Body Shop across the street. He said there was
commercial activity and office activity along with Fayetteville
West Campus next to the property. He said the land use would fit
better if it were a multi -family or an office use.
Madison asked if the C-2 on the west side of the Bypass was the
most recent rezoning.
Planning Consultant Wood stated the most recent C-2 rezoning was
on the west side, abutting the bypass.
Clarification was made that the zoning map was incorrect showing
a piece of R -o on the south side of Old Farmington Rd. which in
fact should be C-2.
In answer to a question from Commissioner Dow, Planning
Consultant Wood said the building that abuts the property was a
shop for West Campus.
Jacks asked if there was anyone in the audience that would like
to speak in favor of this rezoning petition.
Ervan Wimberly, representing the petition, presented a colored
zoning map to the Planning Commission.
Wimberly pointed out that there had always been the idea that
commercial zoning would be around the intersections of the major
interchanges. He said there was a lot of existing commercial
zoning in the proposed area. Wimberly also said there were no
large tracts of land left in the immediate vicinity of the
intersection large enough for another motel complex. Wimberly
said the immediate use of the 8.3 acres was for a motel and
restaurant site.
Wimberly added there was a strip approximately 1/4 mile north of
Old Farmington Rd. that was relatively flat and easy to develop,
but north of that point there would be a physical stopping point.
Wimberly handed out to the Planning Commission a 1969 Highway
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Department Traffic Count. He said that intersection was the
second busiest intersection of Hwy 71. He said the data on the
traffic count he passed out was much higher now. He said in 1979
the traffic count on Hwy 62 at the intersection was 11,200
east/west and 14,700 north/south, Hwy 16 was 5,700 and Hwy 112
with 3,600. Wimberly said in looking at the zoning map of the
City that 90% of the C-2 zoning was in the north half (north of
Hwy 16) with very little out Hwy 62 west. Wimberly felt Old
Farmington Rd. was just as much of the intersection as Hwy 62
was, and that it was a major part of that intersection. Wimberly
said a large part of the land south of Food for Less was in the
Flood Plain.
Wimberly felt that the Frontage Road was a good access and again
personally it was better to pull off a two-lane road than it was
to try and cross a five -lane road.
Rick Osburne said he did not believe there was another piece of
C-2 property in that area big enough to accomodate a motel.
III Jacks said, although there may be no other property at the Hwy 62
bypass for a motel, there was quite a bit at Hwy 16.
Wimberly said Hwy 16 had half the traffic count.
Jacks asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak in
opposition to the rezoning request.
There being no opposition the public hearing was closed and
discussion returned to the Planning Commission.
Hanna stated he agreed with Planning Consultant Wood on the need
for a buffer, but could not see the property ever being used for
residential. He said as far as offices were concerned there
probably would not be much of a demand for them at all in
Fayetteville.
Hanna said the triangle at Old Farmington Road was an easy access
coming from the east. Hanna said it may be premature to consider
the C-2 zone, but it looked like the logical buffer zone for the
property further north of this location. Hanna said he would
personally be in favor of granting this rezoning.
MOTION
Hanna moved to recommend approval of the rezoning from R-1 to
• C-2, seconded by Green and followed by discussion.
Nash said she would vote against the motion for two reasons. She
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said that was one of the most highly poplulated intersections and
felt the developer could come up with a different intersection
that would be preferable to adding more cars. Also she would not
really care to see a hotel across the street from the school with
all the traffic.
Dow said her main hang-up was it being next to the school, and
that the buffer zone might be more appropriate.
Madison said she was very much concerned that commercial would
extend on up to the physical stopping point that Ery mentioned.
She said she would vote against the motion as well.
Wimberly asked if a portion of the property on the east and north
side of the strip was left for a buffer. He said then the buffer
would be on this tract of land.
Jacks stated there was a motion on the floor.
Green said the reason he seconded the motion was because one of
the- Planning Commissions guidelines was to put commercial at
major intersections. He said if this was not a major
intersection then there was not one in Northwest Arkansas. He
felt it was consistent with the Plan to him and as Ervan pointed
out, for this particular intersection, virtually all the
commercial property was occupied with some activity or another.
He said the next commercial that he recalled was on down the road
quite aways at least a mile. Green felt this was a perfect place
for commercial property to him.
Hanna added that developers had tried to develop the
intersections with the bypass and that the 62 intersection seemed
to be the only that has taken hold.
Jacks said his feelings were they were right and by policy they
were restricting commercial property to the intersections. He
said the question gets to be "where is the intersection and when
does it stop". Jacks felt that was the basis for Planning
Consultant Wood's recommendation which he thought was right on
the mark.
The question was called and the motion to recommend rezoning from
R-1 to C-2 failed to pass 5-3-0, Madison, Jacks, Nash, Seiff and
Dow voting "no" and Green, Hanna and Robertson voting "yes".
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING R87-16
• GARY & TERESA ATHA - 1940 N. CROSSOVER RD.
The second item on the adenda was consideration of rezoning
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petition R87-16 submitted by Gary & Teresa Atha. Request is to
rezone a 4.81 acre tract of land located just north of the
northeast corner of Hwy 265 and Hwy 45, from R-1 (Low Density
Residential) District to C-1 (Neighborhood Commercial) District.
Planning Consultant Wood's recommendation was; The south half of
the property is recommended for C-1 District and the north half
of the property is recommended for R -O District for the following
reasons:
1. The General Plan recommends a combination of commercial,
office and multi -family for the east side of Hwy 265 north of Hwy
45;
2. Zoning the property as recommended will align the commercial
and office zoning on the east and west sides of Hwy 265; and
3. The public facilities and services are available to serve
the property.
Jacks then advised Planning Consultant Wood's recommendation was
to align the property equally with C-1 and R -O.
• Jacks asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak in
favor of the request.
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Petitioner Gary Atha stated he was the owner/operator of the Home
Supply Company for the past six years. He said the Hwy 45
intersection had grown and fortunately his business had grown
along with the intersection and area. His reason for this
request was an immediate need for a larger building for his
business. Mr. Atha said he had no qualms with the combination of
rezoning, but thought in the future he might run into the next
lot that would have to be rezoned once more.
Jacks asked Mr. Atha what he thought of the Planning Consultants
recommendation.
Mr. Atha said it was fine and had no complaints about the
combination as long as it goes out at least 600' to align with
the commercial on the west.
Jacks asked if there was anyone in the audience that would like
to speak in opposition.
There being no opposition the public hearing was closed and
discussion returned to the Planning Commission.
Dow felt the Planning Consultants recommendation was a very good
one. She said it would set a precedent on Hwy 265 to avoid some
strip zoning. She said it would also align the commercial as
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well as allow commercial at the intersection and provide a buffer
against the R-1.
MOTION
Dow moved to recommend approval of rezoning from R-1 to C-1 and
R -O and that the two be in alignment with the commercial and R -O
on the west side of Hwy 265, seconded by Madison. The motion to
recommend passed 8-0-0.
PUBLIC HEARING - REZONING R87-17
ERIC & CHARLENE LLOYD - 492 W. LAFAYETTE
The third item on the agenda was consideration of rezoning
petition R87-17 submitted by Eric and Charlene Lloyd. Request is
to rezone a part of Lot 2, B1 5A, County Court Add. (16,591 sq.
ft.) located at the northeast corner of Lafayette St. and West
Ave., from R-3 (High Density Residential) District to R -O
(Residential Office) District.
• Planning Consultant Wood's recommendation was; R -O District is
recommended for the following reasons:
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1. The property is across the street from C-3 and I-1
Districts;
2. North of Lafayette St. there is not much land left that is
not owned by University Baptist Church or the University of
Arkansas;
3. R -O District will serve to buffer the commercial/industrial
activities on the south side of Lafayette St. from the remaining
residential activities to the north; and
4. Public facilities and services are available to serve the
property.
Jacks asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak in
favor of the request.
Eric Lloyd stated he owned a couple of business at the location
in question for the past 13 years (Bike Shop & Beauty Shop) and
would like to add to the existing beauty shop.
Jacks asked if the property to the east and north would all be
expansion area for the business.
Mr. Lloyd explained all three pieces had to be rezoned in order
to conform. He said at present the gas station was a non-
conforming use and in order to add to the existing shop it had to
be conforming.
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Jacks asked how deep the hole was in the back of the beauty shop.
Mr. Lloyd explained the hole was to be used for a basement for
the washers/dryers and a lounge for the operators.
Madison asked if R -O would make Mr. Lloyds shop conforming, and
Carlisle replied "yes".
Jacks asked if anyone in the audience would like to speak in
opposition to the petition.
There being no opposition the public hearing was closed and
discussion returned to the Planning Commission.
MOTION
Madison moved to recommend approval of the rezoning from R-3 to
R -O, seconded by Seiff. The motion to recommend passed 7-0-1,
with Hanna abstaining.
APPROVAL OF FINAL PLAT - VALLEY SUBDIVISION
• SAM MATHIAS - OLD WIRE ROAD
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The fourth item on the agenda was consideration of approval of a
final plat for the Valley Subdivision submitted by Sam Mathias
and represented by Bud Tomlinson. The 8.75 acre tract is zoned
R-1, Low Density Residential District.
Mr. Tomlinson stated the certification had been left off of the
final plat that the Commission had received. He said this had
been corrected and presented a revised final plat with the
required certification.
Jacks asked if there were any comments from plat review that the
Planning Commission should be aware of.
Carlisle stated the only comment from plat review was that she
had requested a contract in lieu of the remaining improvements.
She said the contract had been executed and filed with the
document on file in the Planning Office.
MOTION
Dow moved to approve the final plat as presented, seconded by
Madison. The motion to approve passed 8-0-0.
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REQUEST FOR A WAIVER OF THE SUBDIVISION REGULATIONS - LOT SPLIT
CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST - TANDEM LOT
DAVID A. COWDEN - 2035 SMOKEHOUSE TRAIL
The fifth item on
submitted by David A.
District and contains
the agenda was a request for a lot split
Cowden. Property is zoned A-1,Agricultural
2 acres.
Mr. Cowden said the reason for the lot split request was he
needed to build a home for his Mother in Law.
Madison asked exactly where this property was in relation to the
mail box. Mr. Cowden said it was approximately 100' to the south
of the mail boxes.
MOTION
Green moved to grant the lot split and conditional use as
requested, seconded by Seiff. The motion to approve passed
7-1-0, with Madison voting "nay".
CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST - CHILD CARE
DONNA WELDON - 559 S. RAY
The sixth item on the agenda was a request for conditional use
for child care submitted by Donna Weldon. The property is zoned
R-1, Low Density Residential District.
Dow asked Mrs. Weldon if she was going to be putting a fence up.
Mrs. Weldon replied a fence would go up sometime next week.
Jacks asked how many children she would be watching. Mrs. Weldon
replied 10 children.
Dow questioned the drop off point as to how would the parents
access the property.
Mrs. Weldon stated she was only going to be watching Kindergarten
children and they would walk to her home after school.
Seiff said he was concerned
said the driveway was one
fact there was only tandem
concern was the danger of a
there.
about the way the driveway was. He
car wide and was concerned about the
type parking. He said his biggest
child behind one car when another was
Mrs. Weldon stated the driveway was going to be widened to two
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lanes.
Madison said this was a conditional use and it could be denied in
one year if any complaints come through the Planning Office.
MOTION
Madison moved to grant the conditional use as submitted, seconded
by Hanna. The motion to approve passed 8-0-0.
REPORT FROM THE UPDATE COMMITTEE
The seventh item on the agenda was a report from the Update
Committee presented by Commissioner Hanna.
1. Remove requirements from definitions as a separate committee
item
Jacks said the update committee was a policy committee and the
real work would come from some other source and they were not
quite sure who would be appointed to do that.
2. New Code Books to be furnished to,..Sommissioners_.from
Planning Office
Hanna advised that Sandra Carlisle was working on new code books
for the Planning Commissioners.
Jacks asked Carlisle if the Planning Office had progressed at all
on the new books.
Carlisle replied she could not figure out how to run the books in
a more feasible form.
Jacks said he would lend the Planning Office his copy to review.
Green asked how much the Ordinance Books were and Carlisle
replied approximately $400.00.
3. Combine Plat Review and Subdivision Committee to save time.
Hanna pointed out this did not mean to actually combine the
committees. He thought they could try to schedule the meetings
concurrently or one after another. Hanna said this was brought
about to save time to a developer trying to bring a development
through the process.
• Green asked if that was practical because in plat review the
developer receives comments, then the developer goes back and
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revises the plat in which the Subdivision Committee receives. He
said if the meetings were back to back the developer would not
have time to think about the comments they had received at plat
review. Also the Planning Office would not have time to organize
what had happened if there were one meeting after another.
Jacks said right now a developer has at least 3 trips, Plat
Review, Subdivision Committee and Planning Commission.
Nash asked if it was that important for the Subdivision Committee
to see the revised plat.
Dow said the revised plat was very helpful and Commissioner Green
added if there were an error the developer may not know how to
fix it with possibly only 1/2 hour between meetings. He said
many times a developer needs to go back and think about what they
have been told and the best way to solve the problem.
Jacks said the thought on this was that the percentages would be
such that if the plat had everything right the developer would
not have to make the trips or changes. Jacks said there would be
some with snarls and the guy would have to come back through the
process again.
Green wondered if there would be some way to group them into
simple ones and more complex ones. He said some of the LSD were
merely rituals with everything in order. He said there were
others were it was real important for the developer to have time
to work it out.
Jacks said it would be a judgement call on the part of those
committees to say this one could go on and this one would have to
come back next week.
Nash asked if Plat Review could send the simple ones onto the
Planning Commission.
Jacks said he did not think Plat Review had that judgement
capability.
Carlisle stated the ordinance required a developer to go through
Plat Review, Subdivision and then to Planning Commission. She
said with the exception of a final plat which goes to Plat Review
and then to Planning Commission.
Carlisle agreed with Commissioner Green and felt the Plat Review
Committee was more a more technical committee.
Jacks said he would like to try the back to back meetings for 2
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or 3 meetings to see if it would really make a substancial
difference.
Nash suggested changing the ordinance by holding a public
hearing. She then said Plat Review could decide if the developer
could go straight to the Planning Commission or straight to the
Subdivision Committee.
Jacks asked if the ordinance was changed, was the Plat Review
Committee capable of making that determination.
Jacks felt Sanda Carlisle would be more capable of making that
decision herself rather than the utilities, but the ordinance
would have to be changed in order to do that.
Dow said she would be willing to do the judgement call on the
easy ones, but would sure hate for the full Planning Commission
to sit through the hard ones.
Green also said proof of notification would have to be supplied
at Plat Review rather than Subdivision Committee.
4. Manual for developers.
Hanna advised the Planning Office was working on the manual for
the developers. Hanna said the update committee had discussed
that when a developers comes to the City and wanted to do
something one time, he was completely lost. He said it begins to
become overwhelming when the third or fourth thing had been done
and finds out there was still something else to do.
Jacks said that essentially was the comment from the Chamber
people. Jacks said the Chambers main complaint rather than to
much restriction and to many ordinances seemed to be the fact
that people who did not know there way around would come and find
out they still had more to do.
5. Cross reference for conditional uses in existing ordinances
Hanna said what the Update Committee had in mind was a matrix.
Hanna said they all agreed it was a good idea, but could not
agree on how it would get done.
Jacks said obviously there was a big chore here trying to figure
out how to get a lot of these done.
6. Eliminate unused and unenforced regulations
Madison asked for an example of an unused or unenforced
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regulation. She then wanted to know if it was a matter of they
were to hard to enforce and we just don't do it or are they
archaic and unnessary.
Hanna said some of the regulations
situations.
were passed for one time
Jacks gave an example of what they had already done something
about. He said the matter of driveway separations in R-1.
Everybody seemed to be finally of the opinion that really that
ordinance was not needed because the Planning Commission
invariably waived it. He said there were some other regulations
in the book like that.
7. Designation for Historic District (passed on discussion)
Jacks asked what did passed on mean. Hanna said the committee
did not do anything and that it died.
Jacks then asked if the committee thought the Historical District
needed a special zone or something. Hanna replied that was what
they could not decide on. Hanna added there already was a
Historical District, although it was not zoned. -for a Historical
District.
Hanna said evidently there was a Historic structure in just about
every zone, for instance there was a rail road station in and
Industrial zone.
Jacks said the in his
District defined on the
zone). He added with
having to do with older
mind the discussion was should there be a
zoning map for Historic District (H-1
that District there would be regulations
stuctures.
Hanna said it might be that the Planning Commission should get
together with the Historical Society and allow some permissable
uses in the Historic District.
Jacks asked how did any special regulations other than the R-1
regulations come into play.
Hanna replied the District was designated a Historic District,
but does not have anything to do with City zoning. He said if
someone wanted to add a sunroom on the side of a house in the
Historic District all they had to do was meet the setback
requirements.
• Jacks asked if there were no restrictions there by virtue of the
District being a Historic District.
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Hanna felt the Historical situation should be left alone as it
existed.
Phyllis Rice, Northwest Arkansas Times added the Springdale Board
of Directors had an ordinance (Shiloh Historic District)
established for their Historical District.
Hanna said he was against a zoning District with certain
restrictions.
Stan Green asked if the Historic District designation was put
there by the City.
Carlisle thought the designation was put there at the request of
the Historical Society.
Green said the Historic District in Fayetteville was not the same
as being on the National Register of Historic Places and there
were no Federal guidelines that prohibit certain things.
Larry Wood thought there were some restrictions in the
Fayetteville Historic District. Wood said the. Washington Willow
Historic District was a City designation with boundarys and
without any real restrictions.
Jacks advised that the question before the Planning Commission
was should they leave the District alone or take steps to develop
a Historic District.
Dow said before she voted against it she would be curious to know
what kinds of things they were talking about. She asked for some
examples of what Springdale had done.
Madison said if the District did not mean anything the Planning
Commission may as well get ride of it because it was just extra
clutter in the book.
Hanna said if somebody was interested in trying to do something
about the Historic District in Fayetteville they should take the
material to the City Board. He said he really did not see this
as the Planning Commissions job.
In answer to a question from Commission Madison, Jacks said they
would end up with a lot of PR. He said the Old Post Office was a
perfect example of what preservation had done. He said not every
structure has the benefits that the Old P.O. had.
Dow said she would like to leave the discussion open rather than
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eliminating it. She said maybe someone from the Historical
Society would take some in interest and proposed somethings.
Carlisle stated she would get a copy of the Springdale Ordinance
for the Historical Society for the next meeting.
Larry Wood stated he also would send some material to the
Planning Commission on how to incorporate Historical Districts
into zoning.
Jacks added the Commission would not take action until the
material was received and discussed.
8. USE UNITS DEFINITIONS NEED REFINING
9. LOOK AT DOWNTOWN PARKING
Hanna said the Committee felt like it would be better to leave
this one alone. He said it had been pointed out to the Committee
that there was sufficient parking downtown right now.
• Jacks asked Hanna if he was suggesting to strike item 9 from the
list and Hanna replied "yes".
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10. ZONE FOR OFFICE USE ONLY
Jacks said after the 1970 zoning that R -O District was developed
with the thought of properties on the fringe of downtown. He
said R -O was simply going to be a rather dense living and office
area which happens in big Cities. He said it had not worked that
way and wound up being zoned to where guys could put Doctor
offices out in suberia and had just been a mess all the way
around. Jacks felt an office zone was in order.
Madison asked Jacks to define an office.
Jacks said it would be specifically for offices without any
reference to residential property involved with office zones.
Hanna said beauty shops were allowed in R -O that were not
residential nor office.
Dow felt it was a good concept, but what would they do with the
existing R -O. Jacks said they were talking about a revamping of
the zoning map. Dow asked if the uses in R -O could be
restricted. Jacks said the uses would have to be looked at
individually, but the idea would be R -O zone would be mainly for
offices.
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Green pointed out most of East Oaks was zoned R -O which was
almost deceitful to the people around it. He said none of it had
developed as offices and probably never would.
Hanna suggested cutting the discussion off at this point and
continueing at the next regular Planning Commission Meeting.
Seiff felt the item on "office use only" should be decided one
way or the other and not just left in the air.
Hanna said the Planning Commission could think about this item
for two weeks and at the next meeting the discussion would
continue with item number 10 (Zone for Office Use Only).
APPROVAL OF MINUTES - MAY 26, 1987
The minutes were approved as distributed.
Commissioner Seiff wanted to recognize in the minutes the
attendance of the representative from the Board of Adjustment,
• Mr. Jerry Allred. Seiff added the Board of Adjustment invited
him to sit with them. He said he does notcpa-rticipate but he
does sit and listen.
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There being no further business the meeting adjourned at 5:30
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