HomeMy WebLinkAbout1986-04-06 MinutesMINUTES OF A SPECIAL METING OF
THE FAYETTEVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
PUBLIC NEARING ON ROUTE TO CROSS MT. SEQUOAH
A public hearing was held by the Fayetteville Planning Commission
on Monday, April 7, 1986 at 6:00 P.M. in the Board of Directors' Room
of the City Administration Building, 113 West Mountain St., Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Ernie Jacks, Julie Nash, Stan Green, Fred Hanna,
Sue Madison, B. J. Dow, Frank Farrish, Paul Skwiot
and Butch Robertson
MEMBERS ABSENT: None
Chairman Jacks announced that the purpose of the public hearing was
to discuss the possibility of adding a collector street to the Master
Street Plan. He said the street proposed would run over Mt. Sequoah
and tie into Highway 265. He advised there has been an engineering
study indicating two possible routes and that, in addition, some letters
have been received from persons wishing to propose a third possibility.
Jacks asked each speaker to note their name and address for the record
and advised the procedure would be to hear from those in favor of
one of the proposed routes first.
Jacks said he would abstain from both discussion and voting on any
motion which may be made as one of the routes proposed would pass
through his property. Commission Dow identified herself as having
a possible conflict of interest and advised the audience that she
had signed a petition in support of an east/west route before her
appointment to the Commission and added she had no alterior motive
for serving on the Commission. She said she felt the issue involved
more than Highland Park in that the growth of the east side of Mt. Sequoah
was also a concern. She said she felt there would be development
in that area and that City Planning needed to address that future
growth. Dow said growth was sometimes painful with uncontrolled growth
being the most painful. She stated she was uncertain, at this point,
as to whether she would vote although she felt it was her right as
a citizen to speak on the issue of growth and Mt. Sequoah.
Jacks noted a letter addressed to Commissioner Madison from City Attorney
McCord: "...I am aware of no statute or judicial decision which requires
that a Planning Commission member abstain from voting on any issue
where the ultimate decision will not result in direct or indirect
financial benefit to the Commissioner." Commissioners Madison and
Farrish stated they would vote on any issue that arose.
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Chairman Jacks invited proponents in favor of one of the routes across
Mt. Sequoah to speak. There being no one in the audience in favor
of same, Jacks asked for speakers opposed to the proposal.
Cyress Sutherland, on behalf of the Washington County Historinal Society,
spoke mainly in concern of East Lafayette. He read a portion of a
resolution passed by the Society's Board March 18, 1986 which stated
strong opposition to any plan that leads to an increased traffic flow
and widening of Lafayette. "The membership of nearly 1,000... views
this plan as a serious threat to the integrity of the entire district. It
would have an adverse and irreversible impact, removing established
landscaping and eroding structures."
Sutherland continued with his personal comments noting that the history
of Fayetteville's Historinal District. He said he felt it should
be the goal of the planning process of Fayetteville, as in numerous
other cities, to declare such districts as valuable municipal assets
to be cherished and protected and not to be major traffic thoroughfares
which will confuse property values and eventually destroy their desirable
traditional integrity. Sutherland said major traffic lanes should
go around such districts, not through them. He suggested moving Highway
45 from East Lafayette. He also suggested, if existing streets need
extension to the east, let them be so in a way which is compatible
with characteristic land contours found throughout eastern Fayetteville.
Sutherland said new streets should not be developed merely as convenient
traffic lanes enabling traffic from relatively new residential areas
to pass through established stable historic districts in such a way
that will dilute their stability, erode their property values, and
irrevocably alter their traditional character. He said stable residential
environment can be maintained when municipalities use enlightened
planning measures.
Thelma Fuller, the President of the City of Fayetteville Historic
District Commission, read a resolution unanimously approved by the
Commission, parts of which follow: "The Historic District Commission
is unequivocally opposed to any plan leading to increased traffic
flow through the the Washington -Willow Historic District and/or the
widening of Lafayette Street which would have the effeet of bi-seeting
the Historic District". "The district's cohesiveness is derived from
visible boundaries, residential character, well -kept homes,large trees
lining the streets, stone retaining walls, sidewalks and a high concen-
tration of buildings possessing high architeetual merit. She said
any violent disturbance would forever destroy this unique and carefully
preserved neighborhood which represents a large portion of the City's
history."
Patricia O'Leary, 409 E. Lafayette, said after speaking with the Chamber
of Camerae, there are few things we talk about including the Razorbacks,
the square, the beautiful homes and the Historical District. She
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noted the "all -seasons trail" which snakes through the areas under
discussion. O'Leary said she drove from Highland Park to Lafayette
and Mission Blvd. and from Highland Park to the square both of which
took six minutes. She referred to a comparison of an old traffic
count and a new one which reflects little increase. O'Leary said
she works at the University and expects nothing more than a small
increase in growth either there or near the square but more towards
the north and the City of Springdale.
Joel Freund, 1408 Rockwood Trail, said he thought the Planning Commission
was doing a good thing in planning for future growth although he thought
the solutions being proposed to this perceived or potential problem
are large city solutions. He said he thought there were differences
between Fayetteville and large cities in that a large city tries to
move large numbers of vehicles quickly and efficiently in, out or
across the city. Freund said, although this is a "must" in a large
city, it is not the case in Fayetteville where the volume of traffic
is not as great and the growth of business' in the City center and
the University will be modest. He said he felt the proposed road
would decrease the quality of life by taking away some of the established
neighborhood. Freund said he was willing to spend the additional
time to drive the extra distance and spend the money to provide fire
protection to handle the area in question.
Bill Willmore, 2540 Manor Drive, presented a petition signed by more
than 60 residents of the area and noted he did not find anyone in
favor of the proposal. He referred to the engineering study (performed
at the request of the City Board) which found more negatives than
positives on grades of 15-20% and none of which could be an all -season
road. Wilmore said he didn't think there was a problem and thought
more money should be spent on a few more traffic lights. He said
he knew of larger cities than Fayetteville with the same terrain problem
one in particular with a population of 100,000 which has one street
north/south and one east/west. He concluded by asking to have his
home and neighborhood left alone.
Mike Sierzchula, 389 Dogwood Lane, presented a petition of approximately
800 signatures opposing all alternatives proposed. He explained that
he has a Masters Degree in archeology and work experience which includes
positions with engineering firms in Little Rock and Hot Springs. He
reported finding 43 "weasel" words in 20 pages in text of the engineering
study and explained that weasel words are used in unexpected situations
and consist of words and phrases such as "inmost eases", "approximately",
etc., and can not be tied down to a specific situation. Sierzchula
said that throughout the text, all distances are approximate and there
is no margin of error given. He added there were no scales used on
the maps. Sierzchula said he felt the City paid the engineering firm
money to perform a task that was not done. He said the firm concludes
that "...although construction of the route is feasible, the difficult
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unanswered question is whether the benefits justify the cost." Sierzehula
said it did not address advantages verses disadvantages. He said
there is no mention of possible long-term health affeets on people
close to one of the proposed routes where young people have bought
expensive homes and plan to remain for some time. Sierzehula noted
there were no sources cited in the report. He said it effectively
removes the area as a place for children to play and no reference
is made to environmental impact. Sierzehula said there is a possibility
of altering the watershed. He also pointed out that no topographic
map accompanies the report and that, technically, there was only one
soil boring conducted. He concluded that the Enders-Aleghaney Complex,
which the proposed road would cross, is a soil which is subject to
severe erosion at 8-40% grade and is incompatible with the design
submitted. Sierzehula suggested reading a book called Soil Survey
of Washington County which states it has a low traffic supporting
capacity and is severely restricted for this area.
Dr. Orland Maxfield, 533 N. Willow, stated he has resided in Fayetteville
for 40 years, 38 of those years in the district represented this evening.
He presented a petition signed by 309 people living in the area bounded
by Prospect and Dickson, Mission and College and Rush Drive. He said
the petitioners protest the proposal of taking a throughway over East
Mountain (Mt. Sequoah). Maxfield said the proposal "arouses a feeling
of rage, as though my very body were being violated". He continued,
noting the area is one of recreational walkers and joggers and pedestrian
traffic generated by children walking to Washington and St. Joseph's
schools. Maxfield compared the (probable) results of the proposal
to the area along College Avenue between North and Center Streets.
He referred to the increase of pollution and the loss of parking if
the street (Lafayette) were widened. Maxfield concluded by saying
if the City could not find a more feasible route to Highway 265 than
across East Mountain, it should limit any further residential development
to the east.
City Director, Marian Orton, 1641 Halsell, said although she lives
on the west side of Fayetteville, what happens on the east side of
Fayetteville concerns her as much as something on the west. Orton
said she is opposed to the recommendation made by Crafton, Tull, Spann
& Yoe for the route from Highway 265 to downtown mainly because of
the specified width of the street and the steep grade. She offered
several suggestions to help reduce the traffic problems in the eastern
part of town. 1. recommend to the City Board, an ordinance that would
prohibit new streets which have more than a 10% grade and that any
exception would require approval of both the Planning Commission and
the City Board; 2. take Highway 45 off Lafayette and Mission and put
on Joyce, Highway 265 and Highway 16, thus diverting traffic away
from narrow residential street and Root School; 3. put a 31' wide
street (including sidewalk) between Highway 265 and Happy Hollow Road
to allow school patrons from 265 area to reach Happy Hollow School
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without putting that additional traffic at 16 and 265. She proposed
the street in the vicinity of a SWEPCO easement near the north boundary
of Steve Cummings property. 4. remove the future placement of Highway
265 along Paddock Road from the Master Street Plan and leave it at
its present location. 5. add to the Master Street Plan a 31' wide
street that would follow the east contour of Mt. Sequoah from the
east end of Rogers Drive where the developer has already stubbed in
a through street. She pointed out if said street were tied into a
street just above it in Southern Heights Place it could follow the
contour with no grade change.
Orton said the traffic lights are coming to Highway 265 at both Highways
45 and 16. She expressed hope that this would not be delayed much
longer.
Chairman Jacks advised of a letter received from Bill Underwood proposing
a plan similar to that of Director Orton. He requested to hear from
Cynthia Christie who also proposes a similar route.
Christie, 514 N. Mission, said her proposal would connect a road from
Happy Hollow Road to Rogers Drive following the contour of the mountain.
She said she and her husband are opposed to the route proposed by
the engineers because it is short-range planning that does not take
into consideration the traffic problems of the entire eastern Fayetteville
area. Christie said the cost of constructing a road in the proposed
area is estimated to be 50% over the usual. She said the routes would
not only disrupt established neighborhoods, but would be inaccessible
in bad weather and would add to the traffic problems and safety hazards
that exist on Mission Blvd. and Lafayette. Christie pointed out that
Highway 45, a state highway, is the only designated truck route to
the central part of the City with the three-way stop at Maple Street
being the only traffic control along the route from College Avenue
to downtown Huntsville. She said she has recently counted 560 mars
in one-half hour flowing south. She added there it has been difficult
to obtain changes or improvements along this street because it is
a State highway and as such, the City of Fayetteville does not have
control or jurisdiction over it. Christie said the recent engineer's
study does not address what will happen beyond the intersection of
the proposed route and Mission Blvd. or the current congestion along
Mission and does not suggest any traffic control improvements. She
asked that the Planning Commission look further for an alternative
east/west route that does not incorporate Mission and Lafayette but
one that addresses the eastern area on a much broader basis. She
also asked that the City seek to eliminate the State Highway designation
through this area and substitute a new truck route between Highway
471 and Highway 265 further to the north. Christie concluded by submitting
a petition of 60 area residents directly affected by changes in status
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Don Wadell, Administrator of Mt. Sequoah Assembly, spoke in opposition
to the propose street which he said did not seem to take into account
the quality of life on top of Mt. Sequoah. He referred to a letter
to the Planning Commission denying a statement in the engineers' study
which states that the proposed route will enhance the property of
Mt. Sequoah. He said the Assembly currently owns approximately 100
acres, 30 on the top of the mountain and 70 on the east side and said
the Assembly does not wish to have any better access to Mt. Sequoah.
He said it is the desire of the Assembly to retain the east 70 acres
of wilderness as it is and to not sell or subdivide any part of it.
Tom Dickson, 785 Missouri Way, a physical geographer referred to the
engineers' study which he said failed to mentioned the Heetre and
Enders Soil Association note: "...these soils have certain problems
associated with their use in highway construction". Dickson referred
to the Soil Survey of Washington County noting "suitability as a source
of road sub -grade: Enders Association, poor and unstable; Hectre Associ-
ation, poor". He said there is no mention of geology under that heading
in the report. Dickson said the area is dominated by shale and sand-
stones and that the shale prevents drainage from percolating. He
said no mention has been made yet of the snow and ice problem, advising
that the area residents have difficulty traveling from east to west
to intersect with one of the major traffic fares.
Lois Imhoff, 1619 Clark Street, reported many joggers using the streets
around the top of Mt. Sequoah. She said additional traffic using
Rockwood Trail would make it increasingly hazardous for those backing
out of their driveways. Imhoff advised of a waterfall in the path
of developing of Rockwood Trail. She said the existing collector
street is adequate for the neighborhood and there was no reason to
think of bringing a road over the highest natural terrain of the City.
James Gilbreth, 1158 Crestwood, said he was considering building at
the corner of Lafayette and Tanglewood if the proposed road is not
built through the site. Gilbreth asked the Commission if they understood
the engineers' report. He also asked if the report has been put into
layman's language and if the dollar and cents impact on the neighborhood
and the environmental impact has been quantified. Gilbreth said the
bank withdrew financing for the house he intended to build because
of the uncertainty of the Commissions' action regarding the proposed
road, setting his plans back three months. He said a bore hole was
drilled on his property and left open with possible danger to small
children or animals. He said he felt more plans were necessary before
presenting such a proposal with regard to cost and environmental impact
and suggested the City Board develop an adviser staff to assist the
Commission with their work. Gilbreth noted the Commission has a covenant
with his five year old daughter and all those who come after her because
what is done today affects tomorrow and if the faith is not kept with
the past, there may not be a future.
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David Randle, 1430 Ridgeway, said he had no quarrel with subdividers
trying to develop their property. He asked if anyone had thought
about the prospect of a four -lane highway emptying into a two-lane
road. He said it was a proven fact that this particular proposal
does not serve a group of people large enough to justify its expense.
Randle asked the Commission to not recommend any of the proposed routes
but to plan for better ingress/egress to the City on Highways 16 and
45. He inquired into State and Federal matching funds to widen these
highways.
Irma Boyer, 1710 Hammond Street, spoke as President of one of the
Gardening Clubs in Fayetteville. She said the garden clubs are involved
in trying to beautify the City through landscape awards and through
their connection with nature conservancy, attempt to keep a plot of
land in its natural state. Boyer said it seems that Mt. Sequoah is
a perfect place for this practice.
Laurie Karnatz, 397 Dogwood,
the present drainage system
from the roads and future
the White River and sooner
also pointed out that the
in the study are absurd.
said any of the proposed roads will destroy
on Mt. Sequoah and possibly send pollution
building of houses into the west fork of
or later into the drinking system. She
cost estimates for obtaining rights-of-way
Fred Hunt, 1000 Skyline Drive, advised that a newspaper article by
Commissioner Madison states there is not an east/west route and he
charged the Commissioner with designing one.
Dr. De Palma, 220 S. School, said he owns 120 acres on Mt. Sequoah.
He said he has heard rumors that he instigated the four -lane highway
and he wished to put such rumors to rest. He said he would come bank
to haunt the individuals who put in that road. De Palma noted he
has never been notified of any of the meetings regarding the proposed
road He said he hoped Mrs. Madison remembers two statements made
by her in a letter to the editor: (1)"No one wants to desecrate Mt.
Sequoah by scarring it with a roadway and I do not think it is necessary
for a street to pass over it". (2)"...far more important to preserve
the natural beauty of Fayetteville would be the adoption of a landscape
ordinance currently being considered by the Planning Commission".
Chairman Jacks closed the public hearing at this time and returned
discussion to the Planning Commission.
MOTION
Nash moved the Commission recommend to the City Board that all three
existing plans be rejected. Hanna seconded and upon roll Ball, the
motion passed 7-0-2, Jasks and Dow abstaining.
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MOTION
Nash said it seems the City is growing north and east and needs of
all segments of the population need to be considered. She moved to
place on the next regular agenda of the Planning Commission, a discussion
of an east/west route from Highway 265 to Highway 471.
Hanna said he hoped this would not lead to another costly study before
input of the people. He said he felt the present study was a waste
of money. Upon roll mall, the motion passed 8-1-0, Farrish voting
"nay".
Commissioner Green agreed that the proposal has not been thought out
and the audience turn -out supported that feeling. He said he thought
it important to keep in mind that, if we are to continue discussing
this and try to solve some of the problems of east/west access, it
is important for the people to continue providing the Commission with
alternate ideas and not just opposition or support. Green said he
didn't think any Commissioner would say they had the solution to all
the issues that face Fayetteville in the future. He said he thought
the large audience turn -out was great and helped clarify his thinking
regarding this situation. He said he felt that sooner of later there
would be a way to get from Highway 265 to 471 and he mentioned that
the Commission is currently working on a new plan for the City. Green
said if a proper plan is not resolved, there is likely to be a route
that no one wants. He said he was expressing neither opposition or
support for a road over the mountain at this point.
In answer to the audience response that there is no problem, Dow said
she thought there may not be a problem at this time but when the four -lane
highway is completed from Ft. Smith, Fayetteville will grow and she
thought some reasonable plan to add a street to the Master Street
Plan was needed because, if it is not planned, the developers of that
area will place streets wherever they wish resulting in a meandering
maze up Mt. Sequoah. The audience responded in a positive way to
having a maze.
Skwiot said he agreed with speakers regarding preservation of flora
and fauna and he also agreed with Commissioners Dow and Green that
(even simple) economies will demand a problem. He suggested forming
a special assessment district to acquire some of the property in question,
perhaps scenic easements. Skwiot pointed out that only one person
spoke of being willing to pay to keep the area pure and the way he
wants it.
Green clarified that he was not in favor of any of the three proposals,
or a four -lane or even a wide two-lane road through existing neighborhood.
He said he did not feel it was the purpose of residential streets
to oarry large amounts of traffic. He noted that many problems have
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been raised but not many solutions have been reached and that he thought
it was important to tome up with a solution that will not devastate
existing neighborhoods but will help control the future of what does
happen.
Raymond Jones, 223 E. Lafayette, asked why another east/west four -lane
is necessary if four are already shown on the Master Street Plan.
Commissioner Madison clarified that Green said there will some day
be a connection in subject area. She said the greatest atrocity in
Fayetteville today is that so much traffic travels along Winwood and
Overorest to the point that the residents want to barricade the street.
She pointed out a similar traffic problem on Ash and Sycamore. Madison
said she felt the Planning Commission should plan ahead for the protection
of Mt. Sequoah where traffic will find its way over in some way to
get from 265 to 471. She said it is not the responsibility
of the developers to build major streets. She reiterated the need
of planning a (east/west) street and advised it mattered not to her
where it is planed. Madison advised that formal procedure has been
followed in initiating this proposed addition to the Master Street
Plan in that the proposal has been to the Teehnieal Advisory Committee
and the Policy Committee. She said the first time it has been addressed
by the public and the Planning Commission is tonight.
Jacks advised the Commission will make a recommendation to the Board
who will make the final decision. Madison noted that any decision
may be appealed.
A member of the audience noted that the area of Sycamore is a prime
example of poor planning which needs attention immediately. She noted
an east/west route is needed but asked that Mt. Sequoah's uniqueness
not be destroyed.
Another citizen asked that existing problems of Fayetteville (with
regards to traffic) be addressed instead of dealing with future problems.
Jacks said the Commission is aware of the problems and is not ignoring
them. He said it not a simple matter and there is currently a plan
to revise the entire land use plan.
Bill Willmore thanked the Commission for their openness in hearing
the public at this meeting.
Dow said the audience presenee reminds her of the critical importance
of the historical and environmental preservation of Fayetteville and
expressed desire to envolve more citizens in the drafting of a landscape
ordinance for the City.
There being no further discussion, the meeting adjourned at 8:10 P.M.