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A meeting of
13, 1984 at
MINUTES OF THE FAYETTEVILLE PLANNING COMMISSION
the Fayetteville Planning Commission was held on February
5:00 p.m. in Room 107 of the Continuing Education Center.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
Newton Hailey, Jr., Morton Gitelman, Barbara
Crook, Stanley Green, Fred Hanna, Melanie Stockdell,
Sue Madison, David Williams, and Ernie Jacks.
MEMBERS ABSENT: None.
OTHERS PRESENT:
Gary Carnahan, Jerry Sweetser, Collier Pierce,
Larry Wood, George Faucette, Jr., Don Mitchell,
Wade Bishop, Mel Milholland, Paul Marinoni, Jr.,
Roy Cate, Mr. & Mrs. B. W. Graue, Bobbie Jones,
Jeanette Crumpler, members of the press and others.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Newton Hailey, Jr.
MINUTES
The first item on the agenda was the approval of the minutes of the
Planning Commission Meeting of January 23, 1984. There being no additions
or corrections, the minutes were approved as mailed.
NOMINATING COMMITTEE
The second item on the agenda was a
and the election of officers.
Chairman Hailey requested a report
Committee, Morton Gitelman.
MOTION
report from the Nominating Committee
from the Chairman of the Nominating
Gitelman advised and moved the following officers for 1984: Chairman --
Newton Hailey, Jr.; Vice -Chairman --Melanie Stockdell; and Secretary --
Barbara Crook. Motion seconded by Fred Hanna. Motion passed 8-0
with one Planning Commission member being absent at the time of vote.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT
TOWNSHIP AND GREGG
LINDSEY AND SEXTON, OWNERS/DEVELOPERS
The third item on the agenda was the approval of the
opment plan for the southeast corner of Township
and Sexton, owners and developers. Property zoned
Commercial District. Gary Carnahan was present
Large Scale Devel-
and Gregg; Lindsey
C-2, Thoroughfare
to represent this
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matter.
Chairman Hailey clarified for the benefit of the new Planning Commission
members, that unless there is a variance/waiver which requires granting
by the Planning Commission, the Subdivision Committee has the power
to approve these items. Chairman Hailey requested Barbara Crook's
report on this matter.
Crook advised that the Subdivision Committee had recommended approval
of the Large Scale Development of Lindsey and Sexton, as submitted
with the granting of the Waiver of Maximum Width of Drives.
MOTION
Crook moved that the Planning Commission approve the Large Scale Devel-
opment as submitted subject to plat review comments; that the Planning
Commmission grant the Waiver of Maximum Width of Drives. Motion seconded
by Fred Hanna. Motion passed 8-0.
Commissioner Gitelman asked if the 40 ft. driveway safety zone had
been considered in the approval of this Large Scale Development.
Crook stated that this was considered and at that time Mr. Carnahan
explained that he had contacted the Arkansas Highway Department, receiving
their approval.
Barbara Crook stated that she wished to suggest that the Update Committee
consider the matter of the Maximum Width of Drives as this seems to
be a matter requiring continuous waiver. Crook stated that the City
Code reads Maximum Width, and this has been interpreted as being from
outside -to -outside of the radius. Crook requested that there either
be clarification of the existing City Code or some way to handle this
without continued need for waivers. Chairman Hailey requested that
the Update Committee look into this matter.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT
590 WEST POPLAR STREET
JERRY SWEETSER, OWNER/DEVELOPER
The fourth item on the agenda was the Large Scale Development plan
for 590 West Poplar Street; Jerry Sweetser, owner and developer.
Property zoned I-1, Heavy Commercial and Light Industrial. Jerry
Sweetser and Collier Pierce were present to represent this matter.
Chairman Hailey requested that the Subdivision Committee give their
report on this Large Scale Development. Crook advised that a Waiver
of the Screening requirement was being requested, and that planting
be allowed in lieu of the screening on the east boundary, and to use
the existing planting to the north along Skull Creek. Sweetser advised
that 1/2 of the planting along the north is on Sweetser property.
Sweetser advised they would have control of the planting along the
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west.
MOTION
Crook moved that the Planning Commission approve the Large Scale Develop-
ment subject to Plat Review Comments; that the Planning Commission
recommend to the City Board, acceptance of a Bill of Assurance for
the sidewalk and street improvements along Poplar Street, with construction
of the street and sidewalk to take place at such a time as the anticipated
bridge construction along Poplar Street is undertaken; that the sidewalk
extend the full length of the property at the time of the street
construction; that planting be accepted in lieu of screening.
Stockdell advised that she would like to see something other than
Lombardi Poplars used as the screening. Crook reiterated that the
motion stated that the Planning Commission accept planting in lieu
of screening, with specific plants not being identified. Sweetser
stated they felt like the anticipated planting will be a great improvement
over what is currently present. Sweetser stated that they wanted
this area to look good. Sweetser advised they had consulted with
a landscaper on their planting, and this is what they were advised
to plant. The landscaper advised that the Poplars did have a short
life, but by the time they were phased out, the slower growing shrubs
would be of sufficient size to provide screening. Commissioner Stockdell
advised that as long as the purpose of the screening is accomplished,
then this would be fine. Jacks thought that as long as the growth
was maintained, there should be no problem. Motion seconded by Melanie
Stockdell. Motion passed 9-0.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT
DEANE STREET, WEST OF LEWIS AVENUE
REALTY INVESTORS, OWNER/DEVELOPER
Chairman Hailey advised that due to the fact no waivers were requested
on this Large Scale Development, the Subdivision Committee has approved
this plat as submitted during their meeting of February 10, 1984.
REINSTATEMENT --PRELIMINARY PLAT
SMOKE RISE SUBDIVISION
PAT DEMAREE--OWNER/DEVELOPER
The sixth item on the agenda was the Request for Reinstatement of
a Preliminary Plat for Smoke Rise Subdivision, located on Shiloh Drive,
south of Highway 16 west; Pat Demaree, owner and developer. Property
zoned R-2, Medium Density Residential District. Don Mitchell was
present to represent this matter.
Chairman Hailey asked for the recommendation of the Subdivision Committee.
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MOTION
Crook advised that the Subdivision Committee recommended reinstatement
of the Preliminary Plat of The Smoke Rise Subdivision and moved that
the Planning Commission approve reinstatement. Motion seconded by
Melanie Stockdell.
David Williams asked for clarification on why a plat would need rein-
statement. Chairman Hailey advised that a plat would need reinstatement
if the developer were to let the one year of approval time lapse.
Jones advised that the City Attorney stated that this plat should
be subject to the Parks requirement. Crook questioned the Planning
Commission's responsibility for this Parks requirement. Jones stated
she thought this matter went into effect automatically; that nothing
was required by the Planning Commission. Jacks requested to know
if anything had been changed in this subdivision. Mitchell advised
that since the Subdivision Committee Meeting of Friday, February 10,
1984, he had discussed this matter with the Arkansas Highway Department.
Mitchell advised that the Arkansas Highway Department did not want
the Frontage Road abutting this property improved, i.e., no curb and
gutter. The Arkansas Highway Department requested new plans on the
developer's approach of the Frontage Road. The Highway Department
stated they would take the drainage problem into consideration when
they re -issued the permit, as well as requesting that the sidewalk
be placed on the first 5' of the Arkansas Highway Department right-of-way.
Motion passed 9-0.
RE -REVIEW, FINAL PLAT
CAMELOT ADDITION --PHASE I
PAUL MARINONI, JR.
The seventh item on the agenda was the re -review of the Final Plat
of Camelot Addition, Phase I, originally approved August 24, 1981.
City Attorney McCord has advised that the drainage is the only matter
for consideration. Located South of Wedington Drive, between Lonnie
Avenue and Cumberland Presbyterian Church.
Chairman Hailey advised that he understood the Final Plat was approved
by the Planning Commission; that the Final Plat had not been recorded.
The City Board had requested that the Planning Commission look at
this matter to coordinate with the Drainage Study which had been done
since approval of this Final Plat. Chairman Halley advised that Mr.
Clayton Powell and Mr. Paul Marinoni had met to work out the drainage
problems and the drainage easement which was apparently agreeable
to both parties. Hailey advised that he had discussed the matter
with Attorney Jim McCord and he was not sure of exactly what was
required. Hailey stated he felt that all matters had been resolved
as requested by the City Board.
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Mr. Eldon Jansen, property owner on Berry Street, expressed concern
of the definite water problem in the area. Jansen stated that he
would like to be assured that whatever will occur in the trench will
not compound the drainage problem, but be an attempt to alleviate
the problem. Hailey advised that the proposed plan was to straighten
and align the floor of the ditch at the east property line, leaving
all the trees on the east side of the ditch on Lonnie Avenue right-of-way;
secondly, to establish a floor of the ditch to carry the computed
drainage run-off, slope the west side of the ditch to a 3:1. The
developer would save as many of the mature trees as possible on the
west bank. Hailey stated this may alleviate some of the upstream
ponding. Jansen was concerned about the placement of drainage structures
under the highway. Crook advised there was a good size drainage structure
currently under the highway. Jones advised that the tile under Lancelot,
which is the street that Mr. Marinoni is constructing, must be approved
by the Arkansas Highway Department due to the fact that Highway 16
is a State Highway. Hailey stated that drainage calculations had
been performed as Highway 16 East was constructed, and possibly the
City Board could request the Highway Department to check calculations,
based on the new Drainage Study. Chairman Hailey requested that Planning
Administrator Jones check with Clayton Powell regarding the drainage
issues in this area.
RECOMMENDATION ON STREET PATTERN
LOCATED AT UNOPENED SYCAMORE AND PORTER ROAD
SUBMITTED BY ROY CATE
The eighth item on the agenda was a request by Roy Cate for recommendation
on street pattern at (unopened) Sycamore and Porter Road.
Chairman Hailey explained that this would be at the Southwest Corner
of the intersection with Sycamore being unopened at that corner.
Chairman Hailey stated that Mr. Cate's proposal will be addressed
in the manner of a concept plat from the Planning Commission's standpoint,
to listen to the options present and perhaps render some guidance
as to what the Planning Commission would like to see at that point.
Chairman Hailey requested to know if Mr. Cate would like anything
to be added other than that information which appeared in the agenda.
Mr. Cate stated he would like a recommendation from the Planning Commission
due to the fact that his entire development depends upon the amount
of improvements which will be needed along Sycamore. Chairman Hailey
asked Larry Wood for background information on this matter. Wood
advised that a cul-de-sac was located in the middle of the property,
not realizing the existing Sycamore location. Wood stated he recommended
use of the existing Sycamore location and suggested that the City
might consider reducing the paving requirements from 31' to 20' on
the south side of Sycamore, which would give two 10' driving lanes
and let the additional paving be the responsibility of the property
owners to the north when that property develops, which would add the
remaining 11', thus making the 31'. The reason for shifting to the
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Sycamore location is that there is
is involved here. If the Sycamore
✓ oad in the middle of the property
a house west of the property which
location were not used, the new
would run into the existing house.
Jacks wished to know why the service road was moved to Sycamore.
Wood explained that it was basically an existing location. Some of
the right-of-way for Sycamore currently exists but has never been
opened. Crook requested to know if the developer would be getting
with an engineer to have this plat drawn up for approval. Mr. Cate
advised he would be doing this, and he now knows where he stands with
Sycamore.
REZONING PETITION R83-22
4041 WEDINGTON DRIVE
B . W. GRAUE
The nineth item on the agenda was Rezoning Petition R83-22, B. W. Graue
to rezone property located at 4041 Wedington Drive, from A-1, Agricultural,
to R-0, Residential Office District. This appeal was denied by the
Planning Commission on December 12, 1983. Mr. Graue appealed to the
Board of Directors on December 20, 1983. The Board of Directors referred
the appeal back to the Planning Commission on January 9, 1984, and
at that time it was tabled until it could be determined if the "Share -
A -Home" which the Graues wished to operate could be approved adminis-
t ratively as previously established, legal, non -conforming use. The
Planning Office has received a notarized statement confirming that
use on the effective date of the annexation.
Chairman Hailey explained that this was an informational item that
the "Share -A -Home" determination has been made and approved by the
Planning Administrator. Hailey advised that this had been tabled
at the January 9, 1984 meeting. Hailey explained that this would
need to be removed from the table and to either approve or deny Rezoning
Petition R83-22.
MOTION
Crook moved that Rezoning Petition R83-22 be removed from the table.
Motion seconded by Stockdell. Motion passed 9-0.
MOTION
Stockdell moved denial of Rezoning Petition R83-22 with denial not
being based on applicable land use, but that it is simply not necessary
at this time. Motion seconded by Sue Madison. Motion passed 9-0.
Mr. Graue wished confirmation of the fact that this would still enable
him to use the existing structure as a legal, non -conforming use,
as it has been in the past. Hailey explained that they can continue
on with their "Share -A -Home" in the same manner as they have in the
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past.
PRELIMINARY PLAT--YORKTOWN SUBDIVISION
LOCATED NORTH OF STUBBLEFIELD ROAD AND EAST OF SUMMERHILL DRIVE
WADE BISHOP -DEVELOPER
The tenth item on the agenda was the Preliminary Plat of Yorktown
Subdivision located north of Stubblefield Road and east of Summerhill
Drive (Summerhill Subdivision). Wade Bishop, developer. Property
zoned R-1, Low Density Residential. Tabled January 23, 1984.
Chairman Hailey explained this was tabled due to question of notification
of adjacent property owners within 100' of the proposed development.
Hailey advised that an additional preliminary plat was looked at by
the Subdivision Committee on Friday, February 10, 1984. Hailey advised
that the 1st order of business would be to remove.the plat from the
table.
MOTION
Crook moved that the Preliminary Plat of Yorktown Square Subdivision
be removed from the table. Motion seconded by Melanie Stockdell and
Morton Gitelman. Motion passed 9-0.
Chairman Hailey stated the Commission can now address Plat I of the
Yorktown Square Subdivision. Crook advised that the Subdivision Committee
had recommended approval subject to Plat Review Comments; that the
tandem lot request be subject to the approval of conditional use and
waiver of tandem lot requirements by the Planning Commission; that
the drainage will be worked out to the satisfaction of the Street
Superintendent; that there will be a street light at the east end
of Manchester Drive with a Waiver of street light spacing as shown
otherwise; that the minimum block lengths shall not be waived due
to unnecessity; that the Phase I boundary be located along the north
boundary of Manchester Drive with note that it will be built to the
Standards applicable at the time of the building; and that the waiver
of the offset between centerlines of Loxley Avenue and the entrance
be subject to approval by the Planning Commission; that the jog distance
between Loxley and the proposed entrance along Stubblefield Road be
at least 150'.
Crook explained that, in the meantime, the City Attorney has rendered
an opinion to the Board that by denying the matter of the jog and
the tandem lot, that this plat has effectively been denied as submitted.
MOTION
Crook moved denial of the original Yorktown Square Subdivision plat
as submitted. Motion seconded by Melanie Stockdell.
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Jacks stated that neither the tandem lot nor the jog disturb him one
way or the other. Jacks stated that the tandem lot may have disturbed
him somewhat due to the fact that this is taking advantage of an ordinance
which specifically was designed for other purposes. Motion passed
for denial of the original plat as submitted, 8-1 with Fred Hanna
voting "nay".
Chairman Hailey then requested report of the February 10, 1983 Subdivision
Committee meeting. Crook advised that the developer submitted a plat
which had eliminated the tandem lot, but still has the 90' jog. Crook
advised that a plat had gone through plat review which was minus the
tandem lot, but with the entrance moved to the east so that there
was a 150' compliance. However, when this was brought back to the
Subdivision Committee on February 10, 1984, the plan was back to the
90' jog.
MOTION
Crook moved denial of the plat which was submitted to the Subdivision
Committee on February 10, 1983, the reason being the 90' jog.
Milholland advised that they had attempted to move the entrance to
the east, but ran into a great deal of complications with the utility
companies. At that point, Milholland stated they came back to the
plat which was originally desired for even traffic flow. Milholland
stated the tandem lot had been dropped and would request consideration
in granting this Waiver of the jog.
Hanna stated he could not understand how the jog would be any more
dangerous than if the plat were redrawn and the entrance was straight
through the subdivision. Stockdell advised that the danger of a jog
has been documented by the Police Department, etc. and is a safety
hazard and traffic problem. Milholland advised the street would be
improved 125' to the east and 750' to the west. Jacks stated that
he felt the principles of planning indicate that three way intersections
are safer than four way intersections with less liklihood of people
running stop signs, etc. Jacks requested a history on this matter.
Wood advised that Jacks was correct in stating that three way intersections
are safer than four way intersections. Wood advised that the issue
at hand was the degree of the offset. The general planning rule of
thumb is that 150' is as close as the offset should be.
Madison stated she had two additional problems with the plat as submitted;
that being the fact that the plat states that no green space is required.
Madison stated this was an error as McCord had already established
that green space is required; secondly that she felt as though there
should be additional access out of this subdivision, citing Perry
Franklin's comments of the Plat Review Committee meeting of January
12, 1984 stating that he would like to see access through Masonic
Drive. Madison stated that if traffic were to be allowed to go through
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to Masonic, this would greatly reduce the traffic on Stubblefield
Road. A concerned citizen stated he did not see how this could be
done since the property which was being referred to was privately
owned. Crook advised that Summerhill Land Development owns Lot 8.
Chairman Hailey asked Mr. Milholland if this had been investigated
at all. Milholland advised this had not been investigated and that
there is not an easement on the Summerhill Property for this to be
accomplished. Gitelman stated that this subdivision was somewhat
troublesome to him due to the fact that all of the new lots on Stubblefield
Road would empty out onto Stubblefield, again compounding the problem.
Jim Turner, property owner, stated that he was much more concerned
about the increase of traffic in the area, stating that the issue
seems to be the jog, etc. However, he could not continue to listen
to the thoughts that there would be just a few houses and that this
is a small deal. Turner stated the concern of the jog as well as
Madison's recommendation that there be another entrance/exit to this
subdivision is very good, but that Stubblefield still must be recognized
as the street that this subdivision empties out upon, and is extremely
concerned about future development. Milholland stated that the street
existing to the east called Manchester Drive will eventually be developed,
feeling like at least 1/3rd of the subdivision will exit on Manchester
Drive. Jacks requested to know if the jog was the only thing that
was wrong with this plat as far as the Subdivision Committee is concerned.
Crook explained that the original Plat Review comments would still
need to be addressed. Jacks stated that he agreed with Madison in
her statement about the green space. Milholland stated that the original
plat was submitted on January 12, 1984 and at that time, the City
was not enforcing the green space ordinance. Stockdell advised that
this plat was under a green space ordinance even at that time. Hailey
advised this would be a legal problem or a matter to be taken up with
the City Board.
Milholland requested background history on the granting of jogs and
had the 150' jog been enforced in the past. Jacks stated he felt
that the Planning Administrator could probably aid in this more accurately;
however, Jacks stated he does remember the jog issue coming up over
a number of occasions with the jog being waived in some cases. Jacks
stated he was not sure of the extent of the waivers. Hailey stated
he did remember at least one jog in the past which may have been waived,
but did not think the extent of the jog was as great as this request.
Crook requested to know if Milholland had attended the Street Committee
Meeting. Milholland stated this matter was taken to the Street Committee
for comments to take to the Board. Milholland stated the Street Committee
did not have any official comments, and would rather not quote what
was said. Jacks asked if it could be assumed that Stubblefield eventually
will become a collector. Green stated that the east side of Stubblefield
was extremely bad now, and would have to go through houses to turn
it into a collector street. Hanna stated he really did not understand
the property owners in the area, that the property needed to be developed
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before the roads would be improved, widened and made to hold the traffic.
Stockdell stated there must have been some underlying reason, probably
safety, that the 150' offset was placed in the ordinances. Stockdell
stated she would be very hesitant to give any percentage to hazard;
that the Planning Commission should be as safe as it possibly can
be.
Dale Johnson, owner of property east of subdivision, stated that he
was extremely concerned with the traffic which would be generated
by this subdivision. He stated that his children walk to school daily.
There are no sidewalks along Stubblefield Road, with it being very
difficult to put sidewalks along Stubblefield Road at all.
Crook stated that there would be an option for the property owners
in the neighborhood if they were extremely concerned about the safety
factor, and that would be to form an improvement district. Johnson
stated that the cost would be extensive to place a sidewalk along
Stubblefield. Mr. Bishop stated that the property owners knew the
condition of the street when they purchased the property. Bishop
stated they are trying to improve the street, and that a portion of
Stubblefield Road will be improved with the proposed subdivision.
Motion for denial passed 6-3 with David Williams, Fred Hanna and Ernie
Jacks voting "nay".
MEMO FROM CITY ATTORNEY
REGARDING "GREENSPACE"
PARKS PLAN AND APPENDIX C--FAYETTEVILLE CODE OF ORDINANCES
The eleventh item on the agenda was a memo from the City Attorney
concerning amendments to "Green Space" Parks Plan and Appendix C,
Fayetteville Code of Ordinances as it regulates the Parks Plan. These
amendments were approved by the Board of Directors with an emergency
clause making the plan apply to Yorktown Subdivision or any Preliminary
Plat. Madison advised that on Page 17, there appears to be a typographical
error, paragraph 2, referring to neighborhoods 1, 2, & 4 should read
1, 3 & 4 according to the chart.
Crook requested to comment for the record stating that the Commission
has been faced with items described as "housecleaning" items by City
Attorney McCord over the past few months. One was the Mobile Home
Ordinance which was described by the Board as simply a "housecleaning"
item and has subsequently been deemed unnecessary. Now, this green
space ordinance was described by the Board as simply a "housecleaning"
item with the City Attorney seeming surprised that the Planning Commission
did not understand that thus, going ahead with approval this. Crook
stated she felt she was the one that brought up the issue of not having
enough information. Crook stated this was sent to the Planning Commission
for consideration, and that she took the matter seriously. Crook
stated she did not find there was enough information in the packet
and asked for more information. Other Commission members agreed and
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the matter was tabled. Crook stated that in the future, if a matter
is simply a "housecleaning" item and only needs the approval of four
individuals, that they just take it to those individuals, but if it
is sent to the entire Commission, that she expects to take the matter
seriously. Stockdell agreed and stated that a number of hours had
been spent on these items.
Jacks stated he felt that he was on the other side of the coin, feeling
as though this matter could have been explained in a short period
of time at the Planning Commission Meeting of January 23, 1984. Jacks
stated he felt the Board did what it should have done. Stockdell
stated there was no intent to delay the issue, but more to understand
what was being voted on. Hailey stated there were three new members
who were unaware of the Parks Ordinance. Hailey stated he did not
feel he could vote to make the Parks Plan sufficiently definite at
that particular time, and that the request of the City Attorney was
poorly worded.
Mr. Turner again requested to address the Commission and stated he
was extremely concerned about the issues and powers placed upon the
Planning Commission; that the Planning Commission ascertain that the
Ordinances impact the environment much more than just leaving outdated
ordinances in effect. Williams stated he wished to respond to Mr. Turner's
comment advising that the Planning Commission's hands are tied at
this point. Williams advised there are two things citizens can do
about the issue of streets and sidewalks: 1) Form an improvement
district and go ahead and make the improvements, 2) Change City
Policy. This would require a citizen's movement that collects taxes
in advance from citizens to pay for streets and sidewalks. If there
is a citizens movement to do this and you want to pay the price of
getting the streets laid out before development instead of afterwards,
then the hands are no longer tied. Williams recommended that Turner
lead this charge and stated he would be willing to vote for this.
There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6:30 p.m.