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A meeting of the
23, 1984 in Room
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
MINUTES OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
Fayetteville Planning Commission was held on January
107 of the Continuing Education Center.
Barbara Crook, Stanley Green, Newton Hailey, Jr.,
Fred Hanna, Melanie Stockdell, Sue Madison and Ernest
Jacks.
Morton Gitelman and David Williams.
Larry Wood, Jim and Cindy Turner, George
Faucette, Jr., Jim Hill, Mel Milholland, Wade Bishop,
Don Dyer, Conlee Bodishbaugh, Mr. Wilson, Bobbie
Jones, Jeanette Crumpler members of the press and
others.
The meeting was called to order by Chairman Newton Hailey.
The first item of business on the
agenda was the approval of the
minutes of the meeting of January
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9, 1984. Chairman Hailey stated he had one correction, that being the
Ernst Conditional Use Petition. Hailey stated that reference was made
to the public hearing being opened stating that this was never really
a "public hearing". There being no further additions or corrections,
the minutes were approved as mailed.
The second item of business on the AMENDMENT
agenda was a public hearing on the PARKS AND RECREATION PLAN
proposed amendment to the Parks CITY OF FAYETTEVILLE
and Recreation Plan for the
City of Fayetteville. This is
necessitated by the State Supreme Court action in the case of IBI, Inc.
vs. City of Fayetteville. Hailey made note of the information which
was contained in the Agenda packets which had been prepared by City
Attorney McCord. Hailey stated that he was under the impression that
this was overturned due to its vagueness. Hailey stated that additional
information which has been submitted, necessitating that the Commission
either have another Public Hearing or continue this hearing. Hailey
asked Larry Wood if he was able to add anything to this Plan.
Larry Wood stated he was unable to add anything beyond what has already
been presented by City Attorney McCord. Wood stated, however, that
he would be happy to explain the changes which have been proposed to
be cede in the original plan. Hailey questioned if perhaps the Commission
would prefer to address this entire packet at one time after the additional
ordinance has been advertised. Crook stated that some members were
not on the Planning Commission when the original ordinance was passed,
and that trying to understand the insertion materials is almost impossible
without seeing the rest of the ordinance. Stockdell advised she would
also like to see a copy of the original ordinance.
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Public hearing was opened. Chairman Hailey asked if there was anyone
present to speak with regard to this matter. There being no one present,
the public hearing was closed.
Ernie Jacks advised that he would like Mr. Wood to give a short explanation
of the map changes. Hailey stated that there were a number of Commissioners
who did not know what had been changed, and this would be appropriate
if the matter was going to be handled at this meeting. Hailey stated
he thought that the Commission members would like to see what it was
before in order that it could be compared to what has currently been
presented. George Faucette, Jr. asked that before the public hearing
be closed, would it be possible to hear what the Parks Plan was before
and what it is proposed to be. Hailey returned the matter to Larry
Wood.
Wood explained that in the previous plan, there were interior sectors
and exterior sectors which were part of the Park Plan. Planning standards
and acreage requirements were calculated for the interior sectors.
Those were the sectors that did not touch any of the outer City Limits.
There were no park deficits shown for the exterior sectors, and The
Plan indicated that this was due to the fact that there were no density
standards established yet for those outer sectors which were, to a great
extent, outside the City Limits. Stockdell asked what was being referred
to with regard to Sectors, (that being portions of the neighborhoods
which are indicated on the map). Wood advised this was correct and
that there were six neighborhoods and twelve sectors which remained
in quadrants as far as the ordinance is concerned. Wood advised that
on Page 17, the only Amendment is to relate that Park Deficits have
been calculated now for the exterior sectors by referring to sectors
2, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 12. Wood stated that it explains in the text how
the deficit was calculated, that being by applying the Park Standard
in the report for each type of park in the exterior sector (5 acres/1000
of population). For every neighborhood park that appeared in the exterior
sector, then the 5 acres was shown as a need in the future for that
area. Wood advised this was all totalled up for the neighborhoods and
for the sectors.
Jacks stated that the ordinance was based on the park study which was
performed by Wood many years ago which divided the City into 12 districts.
Because it was impossible to pinpoint a park location, this study was
quadranted with these being divided into park districts. Jacks stated
that the ordinance
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was set up so that money coming in, in lieu of land for any of those
districts, was put into an escrow fund which could be spent anywhere
in the district. Jacks stated this was too vague. Jacks stated that
the new map pinpoints this specifically. Wood stated this was correct,
and that on the previous map, not all property in the Planning area
had a neighborhood park. Wood stated this was changed on the map, and
the map has been included as part of the plan which was not the case
in the past.
Hailey asked if the members of the Planning Commission felt that the
Parks Plan was sufficiently defined as submitted by the City Attorney?
Wood stated he did not know, but the City Attorney did feel this was
sufficiently defined. Stockdell asked if there was some reason a committee
couldn't be formed for the review of this plan, requesting to know if
there was some reason for expediency. Jacks advised that perhaps this
was correct and the Commission did need a period of time to absorb all
this information with a certain amount of explanation from Mr. Wood.
Stockdell moved that a committee MOTION
be formed consisting of Jacks,
Stockdell and Green to meet with Larry Wood, The City Attorney, Bobbie
Jones, Newton Hailey and any other interested parties, to review this
matter and write a recommendation back to the Planning Commission over
whether this should be recommended to the Board. Motion seconded by
Stanley Green. Motion passed 7-0.
Crook then moved to continue the MOTION
Public Hearing on the proposed amendment to the Parks Plan
to a time which will be determined by the above formed committee.
Crook also added that those who were present to speak with regard to
this matter be allowed to speak at this public hearing. Motion seconded
by Melanie Stockdell. Motion passed 7-0.
There was no one present to speak either for or against the recommendation
on the Parks Plan.
The third item on the agenda was PRELIMINARY PLAT
the Request for Extension of the WASHINGTON MOUNTAIN ESTATES
preliminary plat approval for PUD
Washington Mountain Estates, a
Planned Unit Development, to be located south of Highway 62 West and
west of Highway 71 By-pass. Chairman Hailey stated that due to the
fact that he has a 10% interest in this development, he wished to defer
the item to Vice Chairman Stockdell.
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Stockdell stated that from what she understood, the request is fairly
simple and is for a year long extension under all the existing rules
which have governed recommendations in the past. Crook advised that
there was a recommendation from the Subdivision Committee with regard
to this matter, and asked if Vice Chairman Stockdell was ready for this
recommendation. Stockdell advised that she was ready for this recommen-
dation, however, wished to ask Mr. Hill if he had anything he wished
to add beforehand. Hill advised that they were requesting a year's
extension because of the fact that they were in court over the FAA tower
site. Hill advised they did now have a court date with FAA. Hill advised
he did know they would have to replat, but could not do this until after
the court's decision.
Crook advised that it was the MOTION
recommendation of the Subdivision
Committee and wished to move in conjunction with same that an extension
of the Preliminary Plat of Washington Mountain Estates be granted for
one year. Motion seconded by Fred Hanna. Motion passed 6-0-1 with Newton
Hailey abstaining from vote.
The fourth item on the agenda PRELIMINARY PLAT
was the approval of the YORKTOWN SQUARE SUBDIVISION
preliminary plat of Yorktown WADE BISHOP
Square Subdivision to be located
north of Stubblefield Road and east of Summerhill Drive, containing
26.09 acres, more or less. Owners and developers --Wade and Peggy Bishop.
Property zoned R-1, Low Density Residential District. Chairman Hailey
stated this was heard January 20, 1984 at the Subdivision Committee
Meeting. Hailey requested to know if Mr. Bishop had made contact with
all adjacent property owners, advising that without that, The Commission
would not be able to take action on this request. Jones advised that
some of the certified letter return receipts had been returned, but
not all of them. George Faucette, Jr. requested to speak and advised
that one was hand delivered to Mr. John Wilson and they had obtained
a letter to that effect this afternoon. Mr. David Wilson is present
at this hearing. Jones stated that the list indicates there were four
(4) that were not returned, but she was not sure which ones they were
because three (3) of the ones which were returned do not say who they
were mailed to. Jones stated there were seven (7) names on the list
that were not accounted for. Hailey asked if the Planning Administrator
was satisfied that all interested parties had been notified. Jones
reiterated that there were seven (7) names which could not be accounted
for. Stockdell stated she did not feel it was appropriate to continue
with this matter until all of the return receipts have been received.
Stockdell added that the people present at this meeting should be heard,
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however, if they wished to come at the time the hearing was continued,
they may do that also. Hailey reiterated that no action could be
taken until the next meeting, i.e., to allow time for the return receipts
to be received.
Mel Milholland requested that the Commission go ahead and hear the
matter, approving this matter subject to the return receipts Hailey
turned the comments over to the Chair of the Subdivision Committee.
Crook stated she would address these matters individually and then
act on the Subdivision recommendations as a whole as there were many
things which the Subdivision Committee felt should be discussed with
the Planning Commission.
1) Crook addressed the Waiver of the Street Light spacing advising
it was the recommendation of the Subdivision Committee that the waiver
be granted with the addition of a street light at the east end of
Manchester Drive, to be installed at such time as Manchester Drive
would be constructed.
Crook advised that this has been worked out with David McWethy, Assistant
City Manager, and Bishop and Milholland have complied with the City
Manager's Office on placement of the street lights with the additional
one on Manchester being recommended by The Subdivision Committee.
2) Referring to Request for Waiver of the minimum block length, Crook
stated it was the Subdivision Committee's interpretation of the City
Code that this was not necessary; that the blocks currently meet the
requirements of the City Codes.
3) Referring to the Request for Waiver of the jog distance between
Loxley and the proposed entrance along Stubblefield, Crook advised
that Bishop was asking for a waiver from 150' to 90', centerline to
centerline; the 150' being required by the Subdivision Regulations.
Crook stated this is a traffic control matter primarily. Crook advised
it was the recommendation of the Subdivision Committee that this waiver
be denied.
Conlee Bodishbaugh requested to speak with regard to this matter and
stated he had the property immediately east of the proposed subdivision. He
stated he would like to reinforce the recommendations of the Subdivision
Committee as there is a very hazardous situation currently existing
in this area. Bodishbaugh stated that the traffic situation on Stubble-
field is extremely dangerous. Bodishbaugh stated there are many children
using Stubblefield to go to school on a daily basis. Crook requested
to know if there was anyone else who would like to speak either in
favor of or against this waiver. Stockdell stated that she wished
to reinforce the Subdivision Committee's recommendation stating she
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and Mr. Hanna had visited the site before the meeting and that the
situation would be extremely dangerous, and there is a specific reason
for the 150' requirement being implemented. Milholland advised there
was only one intersection on which a waiver of the jog requirement
was being asked, that being on Loxley. Milholland advised there would
be an approximate 50' plus the flares. Between curbs on the two streets
is about 48'-50'. Milholland advised that they knew this was less
than what was required, but due to the lay of the land, etc., it was
his feeling that this was still the most practical location as there
has to be an entrance somewhere, stating that Clayton Powell, Street
Superintendent informed them that the furthest to the east they could
go, the better it would be.
Jim Turner, adjacent property owner, advised that the problem is that
a funnel is being created with the construction as proposed with a
50' street letting out onto a 15' street (Stubblefield Road), regardless
of the jog. Turner advised he wished to reinforce Mr. Bodishbaugh's
position in this matter. Crook advised that this developer will be
required to widen the north half of Stubblefield Road to meet City
Standards, that being for their portion of the improvements. Milholland
advised that the north side of Stubblefield Road will be brought up
to City Standards with curb and gutter, storm drainage, etc. along
the Subdivision with the additional width required for these improvements.
Fred Hanna requested to know if there was anyone present who would
know the future plans on Stubblefield Road with regard to improvements
to this road. Crook advised that in many cases, streets are widened
as subdivisions go in; that the City just does not have the money
or ability to go in and widen streets. Jones advised there is a street
improvement priority list; however, she did not think that Stubblefield
was on this priority list. Crook requested to know the classification
of Stubblefield with Jones advising this is a minor local street.
Stockdell asked what the final width of this minor street would be
if it were to be fully developed. Jones advised it would be 31'
back -of -curb to back -of -curb. Chairman Hailey asked Mr. Larry Wood
if he was aware of any plans to upgrade this minor street. Mr. Wood
advised that he was not aware of any plans to this effect, and is
shown as a local street.
Crook then made a motion that the MOTION
requested Waiver of jog distance from
150' feet to 90' be denied with passage being predicated on the receipt
of the return receipts. Motion seconded by Melanie Stockdell. Motion
passed 6-1 with Fred Hanna voting "nay".
4) Crook advised that a waiver for the minimum lot frontage would
now not be necessary as the developer had agreed to adjust some of
the lot lines to meet the requirements. Crook stated, however, that
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Part B of this request has to do with the request for a tandem lot
in Block 3, Lot 16, and it is the recommendation of the Subdivision
Committee that the request for the Conditional Use which is necessary
for a tandem lot be denied with one of the reasons being that the
Code requirement for permitting a tandem lot has not been met Jones
cited Article 7, Section 21 and stated that she had talked to City
Attorney McCord who had advised that this tandem lot could be approved
in spite of this Ordinance as it is part of a subdivision and not
a single lot. Crook reiterated the Ordinance and stated that she
felt that before any conditional use for a tandem lot development
shall be granted, The Planning Commission must find that the topography
made the tandem lot necessary and that; (A) The development will
not significantly reduce property values; (B) The terrain of the
area in which the tandem lot is proposed is such that subdivision
in said area into a standard lot in accordance with the City Subdivision
Regulations is not feasible. Crook interpreted that to mean a block
without an interior lot.
Crook then made a motion that the
conditional use as a tandem lot not be
for permitting a tandem lot has
Melanie Stockdell.
MOTION
granted because the Code requirement
not been met. Motion seconded by
Hailey asked input from Ernie Jacks who he thought, would be the only
member that would remember the intent of the Ordinance at the time
it was passed. Jacks advised that terrain was the reason the ordinance
was developed, to take advantage of property on hillside where the
contemporary subdivision could not be brought in, but this could be
done as a tandem lot; that the Ordinance was not really intended for
flat property. Jones advised that she had spoken to City Attorney
McCord as per Crook's request, and there were three points which he
advised her of. a) The parks requirements, b) The question on the
street specifications, c) The tandem lot question. McCord said that
in the case of creating a single new lot on a single piece of property,
that he felt the topography should be held to, but when working within
a subdivision, with one lot like this, he felt that the topography
requirement could be ignored. Motion passed 6-1 with Fred Hanna voting
"nay".
Crook advised that a motion was needed MOTION
on the granting of the Waiver of the
Street light requirement, and so moved that the Waiver of the Street
Light Spacing be granted as shown with the addition of a street light
at the end of Manchester. Motion seconded by Melanie Stockdell.
Motion passed 7-0.
Crook stated that it was in the agenda material, since Mr. Bishop
had submitted a letter with regard to the Street Construction
Standards; advising that the City Street Superintendent having requested
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the streets be put into the standards which will be in effect at some
point in the future. Crook advised that the Subdivision Committee
did not wish to address this matter because they felt that the streets
should meet the standards which are in effect at the time the Subdivision
is approved. Stockdell added that they felt it was impossible for
the developer to anticipate laws which might be passed in the future,
and to even address that as a concern would possibly be setting a
precedent. Jones advised that she had spoken to McCord about this
and McCord advised that the developer should have to meet the current
standards as there is no definite change proposed. However, with
regard to the Parks Ordinance, there was something definite which
was currently being amended, and McCord felt the developer would be
subject to the Parks Ordinance, but not to the changes which would
come in effect at a later time on the streets. Milholland asked if
the Parks Ordinance was in effect. Jacks advised that the Supreme
Court only spoke for IBI, Inc.; that the ordinance had not been stricken.
Milholland asked if the ordinance had been applied since the lower
Court's ruling. Hailey asked if it was Attorney McCord's direction
that the ordinance not be applied. Jones said McCord did direct that
this not be applied, but he has stated that it should be applied now
since we do have an ordinance and a definite proposed amendment.
Barbara Crook then made a motion MOTION
to approve the Yorktown Square
Subdivision Plat with the changes which have already been discussed,
subject to Plat Review Comments;
1) Specifically, that the drainage structures in the drainage easement
which is shown near the northwest corner, be worked out to the satisfaction
of the Street Superintendent;
2) That the Phase I boundary be shown as following the southwest
lot line of Lot 2, Block 4 to its intersection with Manchester Drive,
thence east along the north side of Manchester Drive which would mean
that all of Manchester Drive would be included and dedicated in Phase
I, but not to be constructed until Phase II of the planned construction;
3) That the lot frontages be adjusted to meet Code Requirements.
Motion seconded by Melanie Stockdell.
An area property owner requested knowledge if there would be a minimum
square footage of house which could be built in this subdivision.
Jones advised that per the covenants, the homes would have to be at
least 1000 square feet of heated area, not including carports, garages
or storage space. Stockdell asked if there was a stipulation for
this in the City Ordinances, with Jones advising that the City Ordinance
requirement was very low. Crook then advised that on any lot, buildings
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shall not exceed 40% of the total area of the lot in an R-1 District.
Turner advised that he was not made aware of this subdivision, stating
that the only way he received any information was from a neighbor.
He stated what he had received really did not have any details, just
a type of plat which was attached and had been reduced down to 8-1/2
x 11 which was extremely difficult to read. Mr. Turner stated that
the proposed lots were very small lots in relation to the lots which
are across the street and to the east and west, and he could not understand
what size house could be built on .37 of an acre and use only 40%
of the lot. Turner stated that he would also be concerned as to the
amount of people this amount of lots would place into the neighborhood
with approximately 100 cars being added to the neighborhood. Crook
added that the lots did meet the requirements for the R-1 zoning district.
Hailey added that the developer had the right to use his property
as he wished, as long as it met the requirements as presented by the
City Codes. Cindy Turner stated that they did not necessarily object
to Mr. Bishop developing this land, but the concern was great over
the street with this being totally inadequate. Crook advised that
if the entire neighborhood became extremely concerned over the street
problem, they could form an improvement and have Stubblefield improved.
Stockdell advised that Susan Meadows of Lot 17, Summerhill Subdivision
called her today with two concerns.
1) The resulting over -crowding at Butterfield School stating they
have a capacity of 570 students. As of this school year, they were
at 498 and anticipating next fall, an increase of 22 to 25 students.
She said her best guestimate would be that this subdivision would
generate another 80 children attending the school if the law of one
child per household can be applied. This would automatically throw
Butterfield over its capacity.
Stockdell stated that part of the Planning Commission decision includes
looking at population trends, growth patterns, etc. and that her comments
would be put into the record.
2) Mrs. Meadows' other concern was over the traffic stating that
children use Stubblefield to play on and even though people are driving
at 40 miles an hour on this street, it is still a neighborhood street
to children.
Sue Madison stated that Mrs. Meadows had also called her with the
same concerns. Madison stated it was her understanding that children
who live in this neighborhood all have to walk to get to Butterfield
School. There is no bus service. Children from Summerhill and children
from this proposed subdivision will walk along Stubblefield as well.
Madison stated she wondered if it would be a good idea to require
sidewalks on both sides of Stubblefield due to the volume of young
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walking children, with the sidewalk on the north side being put in
as development occurs. It was noted that this would require an amendment
to the Master Sidewalk Plan by the Board of Directors. Crook then
requested to read from the code regarding the developer's responsibility
for off-site improvements which is what the street would come under.
"In determining that portion of the cost of off-site improvements
which the subdivider shall be required to bear, the Planning Commission
shall consider the acreage within the proposed subdivision and the
percentage of all the acreage which, when fully developed, will benefit
from the off-site improvements, provided the Planning Commission may
use a different method of measurement if it determines that use of
the acreage standard will not result in the subdivider bearing that
portion of the cost which bears a rational nexus to the needs created
by the subdivision."(Appendix C Art. III Sec. A (4)(A)). Hailey
requested to know if Crook would like to take this back to the Subdivision
Committee for determination of the rational nexus of this matter.
Crook stated that she would like to leave the recommendation as made
by the Subdivision Committee as it is, that the developer would improve
that portion of Stubblefield which bounds his property from east to
west and that portion which lies 15-1/2 feet on the north side of
the centerline.
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Stockdell then made a motion to MOTION
table this until the next meeting,
allowing time to receive the required return receipts. Madison seconded
the motion.
Milholland advised that an honest attempt had been made to contact
the adjacent property owners, and he did not feel that the subdivision
should be tabled just because someone may not be at home Stockdell
advised she did not doubt the fact that the data was mailed, only
that there is a reason for the return receipts, that being to allow
the interested parties to be given the opportunity to speak on it.
Stockdell stated that she felt the people had not been given that
opportunity if all the receipts had not been received.
Motion passed 5-1-1 with Fred Hanna voting "nay" and Ernie Jacks abstaining
from vote.
Bodishbaugh asked if a copy of the revised plat would automatically
be supplied to the surrounding property owners. Jones advised that
a copy of the revised plat would be on file with the Planning Office
and the property owners could check with the Planning Office.
An additional item on the agenda
was the Large Scale Development
of Lenwyn Edens located at Sycamore
and Chestnut.
LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT
LENWYN EDENS
SYCAMORE AND CHESTNUT
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Crook advised that at the last Planning Commission meeting, the Large
Scale Development of Lenwyn Edens was approved at the corner of Sycamore
and Chestnut with a stipulation that he provide a drainage easement
along the north boundary of his property, with the dimensions to be
worked out with City Street Superintendent, Clayton Powell. Upon
meeting with Mr. Powell, Powell did not want an easement that the
City might be responsible for maintaining; that if there was an easement,
Powell wanted it paved or wanted drainage tiles so that the City would
not incur an obligation to maintain an unimproved drainage easement.
Therefore, the Subdivision Committee would like to propose an amendment
to the approval of this Large Scale Development which would retain
the drainage easement, but stipulate that it would be maintained by
the owner, with the City incurring no obligation to maintain the said
drainage easement. Crook asked if this would be acceptable with Mr.
Edens. Edens advised that the only problem he would see would be
if the drainage area were to be improved, in obtaining 12-1/2 foot
easements from all parties, his easement would not match with anyone
elses drainage improvement. Crook stated she did not think this would
be a problem due to the type of drainage improvement which would be
proposed.
Crook then made a motion to amend MOTION
the approval of the Large Scale
Development of Mr. Edens to stipulate that the required drainage easement
be maintained by the property owner, and that its width be worked
out to the satisfaction of the Street Superintendent, with the width
not to exceed 25'. Motion seconded by Fred Hanna. Motion passed
7-0.
The final item was a referral from OTHER BUSINESS
the Board of Directors of a proposed
Ordinance to amend Art. 7, Sec. 12(B) of Appendix A to the Fayetteville
Code of Ordinances to authorize the use of a mobile home as a temporary
construction office on property for which a building permit has been
issued.
Hailey requested any comments from the Planning Commission. Jones
advised that the City Board is now asking if there is any reason to
pass this ordinance? Hailey advised that in checking with the Code,
he did not think that anything was needed and there should be no action
taken by the Planning Commission. Crook added that the Code already
provided for this type of a situation.
Melanie Stockdell made a motion MOTION
that the passage of an Ordinance at this time is unnecessary due to
the fact that the Code already provides for such circumstances. Motion
seconded by Fred Hanna. Motion passed 7-0. There being no further
business, the meeting adjoyirned at 6:25 p.m.
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