HomeMy WebLinkAbout1982-06-28 MinutesMINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A meeting of the Planning Commission was held at 5:00 P.M., Monday,
June 28, 1982, in the Director's Room, City Administration Building,
Fayetteville, Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman Ernest Jacks, Julie Nash, Windell Cullers,
Don Hunnicutt, Melanie Stockdell, Barbara Crook,
Newton Hailey, Jr., and Morton Gitelman
MEMBERS ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
David Williams
Nianzer Anderson, Lamar Pettus, Jerry Rogers,
Mike Phillips, Bob Whitfield, Mrs. Jones,
Maxcyne Gangstad, Mel Milholland, Larry Wood,
Bobbie Jones, Suzanne Kennedy, members of the press,
and others
The minutes of the Planning Commission meeting of MINUTES
June 14, 1982 were approved as mailed.
The next item of business was CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST
consideration of a conditional use request NIANZER ANDERSON
submitted by Nianzer Anderson to have disco 275 E. HUNTSVILLE ROAD
dancing at 275 E. Huntsville Road; property
zoned C-1, Neighborhood Commercial District.
This was before the Commission as a change of non -conforming use. Nianzer
Anderson and Lamar Pettus, owner, were present as representatives.
Ernest Jacks explained this item had been tabled at the June 14, 1982
Planning Commission meeting pending reports of complaints received by the
City Manager or Police Department on noise during the first six months of
operation of "My Place". Chairman Jacks stated there had been differences of
opinion at the last meeting about the number of complaints received by the
City Manager or the Police Department. Mr. Jacks said a report submitted by
the Planning Office shows seven complaints received by the Police Department
between April 30 and June 12, 1982.
Bobbie Jones said she had received a note from the City Manager, Don
Grimes, that he had received a call on June 12, 1982 from a Mrs. Jones
regarding late night noise on June 11.
Ernest Jacks said according to the Police Department log, Mrs. Jones
apparently called the Police Department twice that night.
Melanie Stockdell pointed out that only two of the complaints were for
loud music which was the original purpose of getting the complaint reports.
Lamar Pettus, owner of "My Place", said that Mrs. Jones had contacted
his office on June 22 (she lives at 308 E. Huntsville) about yelling and
screaming matches and music playing until 2:00 A.M. at 306 E. Huntsville,
residential property also owned by him. He said that he wrote to his tenants
at 306 E. Huntsville just to the west of Mrs. Jones and told them to control
their noise. Mr. Pettus said she indicated ongoing problems with that tenant;
he asked her if she was referring to the Club or the neighbors at 306 E. Huntsville
and she indicated to him it was the neighbors. The Police Department, in
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receiving her complaints, was under the impression she was referring to "My Place".
Ernest Jacks stated that five of the seven complaints logged are from
Mrs. Jones. Mrs. Jones was present and Mr. Jacks asked her if she had seen the
report of complaints, which she said she had not. Mr. Jacks asked her if her
complaints had been in regard to noise at "My Place". Mrs. Jones said she had
complained once about the house at 306 E. Huntsville and the rest of her
complaints to the police had been about the disco.
Melanie Stockdell said that it appears that the only criteria we can use is
whether or not the usage is more intense than the previous usage. She said she
felt that, if the previous usage was a grocery store, she can't see that this
usage is more intense on a day-to-day basis.
Maxcyne Gangstad, owner of rental property at 317 Combs Avenue, said she
thinks there is a difference in operation as to hours, since the Club begins
operation at 9:00 or 9:30 P.M. and goes until 2 or 3:00 in the morning, and the
complaints are over a six-week period during a time when the weather is warm
and windows are open.
Ernest Jacks stated that the Planning Commission has received petitions
numbering about 115 signatures asking that the business be allowed to remain in
operation.
Windell Cullers moved the item now under consideration be removed from the
table. The motion was seconded by Melanie Stockdell and passed, 8-0.
Windell Cullers moved to deny the conditional use request for disco dancing.
Cullers said that one of his reasons for making the motion was because of
the fact that the Club was not open very much in the last six months; and it was
his feeling that, everytime they were open, there have been complaints. He said
he has been approached personally by two other owners of property in that
neighborhood complaining about noise. He said his other reason for moving to
deny the request was that, if the disco were located in his neighborhood or some
other neighborhood, he doesn't think the Planning Commission would seriously
consider it. It is a much more intensive use than what was there in the past,
the hours are considerably different, and he is sure that what goes on outside
the club in not under the control of the young man who seems able to control
what's going on inside the club. The primary concern seems to be what goes on
outside during later hours.
The motion died for lack of a second.
Ernest Jacks read a petition submitted by members of the audience which
opposed the request for disco dancing, and numbered about 182 signatures.
Lamar Pettus pointed out that the matter before the Commission today was
to consider Police reports of noise complaints, and that, if he were to be given
two more weeks, he could come back to the meeting with another S00 signatures in
favor of the use.
Ernest Jacks then read the petition which had been submitted at the last
Planning Commission meeting asking that disco dancing be allowed to continue at
"My Place".
Bobbie Jones said, in response to a question from Barbara Crook, that the
area in question is zoned C-1, Neighborhood Commercial. She said that it had
been a grocery store with a liquor store included. The liquor store was not a
permitted use in C-1. They have asked for a change of a non -conforming use.
She said that the City could approve a restaurant with no dancing or entertainment,
and the ordinance really doesn't say whether they can serve liquor or not at a
restaurant. It does lista tavern or a nightclub as separate uses from a
restaurant and taverns and nightclubs are not permitted in the C-1 District,
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Barbara Crook said she had originally suggested the tabling of this item
and now doesn't find the number of complaints significant enough to deny the
request.
Barbara Crook moved the approval of the requested change of non -conforming
use to allow disco dancing. The motion was seconded by Melanie Stockdell.
Windell Cullers said he would vote against the proposal and that, even
though the approval may be granted, he thinks the conditional use was
predicated on the idea that it would be there in harmony with the neighborhood.
He said the fact is, they say they weren't open very much and there are
complaints for the time that they were open. If this were located on Rolling
Hills Drive and those neighbors complained, he thinks the Planning Commission
would listen. He thinks the issue is simply the part of town in which the
disco is located and he thinks a strong appeal has been made for the fact that
it is in a black community. The point is that it is still a disco and is still
going to change people's lives to some degree and is going to be a different use
from what the store had been in the past. He thinks that a conditional use
should be something that can be compatible with the surrounding community.
Newton Hailey stated that he would abstain from voting on this issue because
he was not present to hear any discussion when it was considered at the last
Planning Commission meeting.
Don Hunnicutt asked if there was to be any time limit included in the
motion.
Barbara Crook said she felt, if there was not to be any expense included in
order to change the use, a time limit would cause a hardship.
Don Hunnicutt said he thinks the noise ordinance should take care of any
noise problems that might occur.
Wendell Cullers said he had heard there is a wide discrepancy with police
officers and what they hear when they respond to a noise complaint.
Ernest Jacks said he wanted to clarify that there is no mention of a time
limit included in the motion.
The motion was voted on and passed, 5-2r1, with Morton Gitelman, Barbara
Crook, Melanie Stockdell, Julie Nash and Don Hunnicutt voting "aye" and
Ernest Jacks and Windell Cullers voting "nay". Newton Hailey abstained from
voting.
In response to a question from the audience about whether the disco could
operate as a bar, Bobbie Jones said that, in order to operate as a private club,
they will have to come back and make a new request. She said the ordinance lists a
difference in a restaurant with dancing or entertainment and one without dancing
or entertainment and it lists a restaurant separate from a tavern or nightclub
Ernest Jacks said it should be clarified that the Planning Commission has
not given approval for operation of a private club
Maxcyne Gangstad stated that she had contacted City Attorney Jim McCord,
who told her the change of use would allow disco dancing only, and that they
could not set up a bar or serve liquor She said the owners of the disco have
already been denied an ABC license.
The next item for consideration was the
approval of the final plat of Bronze Tree
Village located north of Township Road and
west of Brophy Circle; Omni -Shelter, Inc.,
owners and developers. Property zoned R-3,
High Density Residential District. Mel Milholland
was present as a representative of Omni -Shelter, Inc.
FINAL PLAT
BRONZE TREE VILLAGE
BROPHYYCIRCLE
OMNI -SHELTER, INC.
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Don Hunnicutt, Chairman of Subdivision Committee, said that there was no
representative present and that he was the only committee member in attendance
at the last Subdivision Committee meeting on Friday, June 25th, when this item
was brought up for consideration. He said that he had considered suggesting
the Committee try to meet at 4:00 P.M. on Mondays before Planning Commission
meetings, as they had done in the past.
Ernest Jacks pointed out that lack of attendance at the Subdivision
Committee meeting seems to be a summertime situation.
Don Hunnicutt said that, as long as the schedule stays light, the 4:00
Monday time will work out; but, in the past, the problem they had was that the
4:00 meeting was running into the Planning Commission meeting time. Fridays
are better meeting times for developers to attend, so that if anything needs
cL to be done before the Planning Commission meeting, it can be taken care of over
• Q the weekend. It was agreed, after some discussion, to try to meet again on
aFridays.
Ernest Jacks said that he had considered the plat of Bronze Tree Village
2 and his question was did the Commission approve the entrance to Township Road
c; on the preliminary plat.
Bobbie Jones said that Ross Fefercorn had presented the original plat.
She said that she thought there had been approval of the entrance on Township.
After further discussion, it was generally agreed that approval had been granted.
Don Hunnicutt spoke with regard to Plat Review Committee comments on Bronze
Tree. He said it appears the intent is clear to include those; the cut they
have made there now is not close to where the drive is supposed to be, as
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•Clayton Powell points out.
O Mel Milholland stated that the site plan shows S6 feet and 8 inches from
.the property line now.
Don Hunnicutt pointed out that Clayton Powell said the cut in the curb
was for Building 9 and 10, and those drives have been constructed, and Powell
was wanting to wait until those were finished as the PUD in order to accept the
final. He stated that, in the case of a PUD, private streets are accepted and
the City does not maintain them anyway.
Bobbie Jones said that Clayton Powell was wanting the developer to finish
the private streets prior to acceptance of the final plat because in some cases,
developers have gone bankrupt and things haven't been finished up.
Don Hunnicutt pointed out that the Planning Commission actually approves
final plats before some construction starts.
Bobbie Jones said that usually a Bill of Assurances, a cash bond, a
- performance bond or a contract entered into insures that if construction is not
completed within that period of time, the City has another period of time in
which they can step in, make the improvements and file a lien against the
property.
Don Hunnicutt asked if the Commission could approve the final plat and then
delay the City filing it until certain things are completed.
Bobbie Jones said the developer is anxious to sell units 9 and 10.
Mel Milholland said that Omni -Shelter was under the impression the
Commission had to approve the final plat so that they can start construction.
On the site plan, they were going to pave everything that was needed for parking
1and access into the units they were building - with the exception of the radius
• part of the drive, everything was to be asphalt - the curb and gutter and base
and so forth. What the owner related to him was they would put the swale in,
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the curb cut, the curb and gutter to grade and base and soon get around to
the radius; all of the parking in the interest of the units is to be completely
asphalted to grade, to City standards and the curb and gutter for the aisle
would be put in. The owner was under the impression that when the final plat
was approved, this would all be done. The letter of assurances would insure
the completion of these units.
Ernest Jacks asked if the Planning Commission should choose to approve the
final plat subject to Plat Review comments and the provision of a bill of
assurances, would there be any other problems.
Mel Milholland said Clayton Powell's comments would be the hardest ones
to comply with, particularly with regard to completing improvements for the
entire unit before approval of the final plat.
Ernest Jacks stated that that problem could be handled with the bill of
assurances.
Bobbie Jones brought up that portion of Powell's comments with regard to
drainage and his concern about the increased velocity of drainage.
Mel Milholland explained that a curb cut had been added and a swale was
not put in to drain the water on down Township as it should. That part
should be resolved.
Don Hunnicutt moved to approve the final plat of Bronze Tree Village
contingent on Plat Review comments and specifically pointing out that the curb
cut mentioned by Clayton Powell be handled properly and that the contract with
the City that is called for in the Plat Review as a bill of assurances be
complied with before officially issuing the final approval.
The motion was seconded by Newton Hailey, and passed, 8-0.
The next item of business was consideration
of a conditional use request submitted by
Robert Whitfield to have mini -storage at
the southeast corner of Highway 71 South
and Whillock Street. Property zoned C-2,
Thoroughfare Commercial District. Robert
Whitfield was present as a representative.
In response to Ernest Jack's question about the notification of adjacent
property owners, Bobbie Jones said that she had been on vacation and didn't know
but there were names and addresses listed in the file, and that this usually
is an indication that they have been notified.
Mr. Whitfield explained that the request for conditional use is just for
the area that has been zoned C-2 as shown on his map. He said that he used the
same legal description that had been used when they rezoned the property.
Bobbie Jones said that the zoning map shows that the property in question
is zoned C-2, and that the rest of the property in that area is R-1, Low Density
Residential. The owner will have to process a large scale development plan.
Windell Cullers moved the approval of the conditional use request for mini -
storage. The motion was seconded by Julie Nash and passed, 8-0.
CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST
FOR MINI -STORAGE
HWY'71 SO $ WHILLOCK STREET
ROBERT WHITFIELD
The last item on the agenda was
consideration of a request from Jerry
Rogers to waive screening along east
REQUEST FOR WAIVER OF SCREENING
ROGERS PRODUCE
HIGHWAY 16 EAST BYPASS
property line on property located
south of 15th Street and west of Morningside
Drive(denied June 14, 1982. Mr. Rogers to obtain letter from property owner to
the east). Jerry Rogers and Mike Phillips were present as representatives.
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Ernest Jacks said that the Commission had required the screening in
their consideration of this item at the last meeting, that they have
received a letter from Mr. Rogers again asking the Commission for a waiver,
and also a letter from the property owner on the east side of the development.
Mr. Jacks read the letter from Joe Kelly, the property owner.
Mr. Rogers said that he had talked with Mr. Kelly who was very much
against the obscuring fencing. In response to questions from Mr. Jacks,
Mr. Rogers explained that the business was not a wholesale produce operation
but consisted of offices and warehouse
Bobbie Jones stated that the ordinance calls for either a view -obscuring
fence or vegetation or a combination of the two and allows the Planning
Commission to grant a waiver but requires 10% of that area be planted in
vegetation if the view obscuring fence is waived.
Windell Cullers moved approval of a waiver of the view -obscuring screen
for the east side of the property.
The motion was seconded by Barbara Crook.
Melanie Stockdell asked if it was automatically assumed that the owners
will plant vegetation.
Ernest Jacks clarified that the motion also requires the 10% planting
of vegetation as required by law.
The motion passed, 8-0.
There being no further business, the meeting was adjourned at 5:45 P.M.
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