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MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A meeting was held of the Planning Commission at 5:00, P.M., Monday, July
28, 1980, in the Board of Directors Room, City Administration Building, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT:
MEMBERS ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
Chairman Ernest Jacks, Morton Gitelman, Keith Newhouse, Martin
Redfern, Windell Cullers, Peg Anderson, Newton Hailey.
Don Hunnicutt, Beth Crocker.
Larry Wood, Cynthia Stewart, Bobbie Jones, Jim Lindsey, Gary
Carnahan, Chad Kumpe, Jim Vizzier, General Bruce Kendall,
George Abney, Ms. Bob Wright, Charles Pope, John Box, Dr, Terry
Box, James Miller, and other unidentified members of the press
and audience.
The Chairman called the meeting to order at 5:00 P.M.
The first item for consideration was the approval MINUTES
of the minutes of the July 14, 1980, Planning Commission
meeting. Peg Anderson moved to approve the minutes with
two corrections. She asked that on page 9, Dick Atkinson be identified as the
representative of the Big Springs or Washington/Willow Historical District. She
wanted it noted on page twelve, instead of "in lieu of" her comment be "in addition
to". With those two corrections, the minutes were approved as mailed.
The second item for consideration was PRELIMINARY PLAT
the approval of the Preliminary Plat of Oakland OAKLAND MEADOWS
Meadows located on Highway 156, one half mile East JIM LINDSEY
of Oakland Baptist Church (on Old Wire Road), and one and
one-half miles North of Sons Chapel (on Hwy. 45); Lindsey Family
Trust - James E. Lindsey, Trustee and John R. and Rebecca Ann Rutledge, Owners.
Jim Lindsey and Gary Carnahan were present to represent.
Keith Newhouse moved to approve the preliminary plat of Oakland Meadows with
three contingencies:
1. County Road 539 will be improved as required by the County Planning Commission.
2. State Board of Health perc data approval will be shown on the Final Plat.
14 and 15 will be
3. The easement crossing the private drive serving Lots
properly designated on the plat.
Newton Hailey seconded Keith Newhouse's motion to approve.
General Kendall stated that the County Planning Commission had not required the
Developers to improve County Road 539 when they approved the plat. Keith Newhouse
stated in that case he would like to change his motion.
Keith Newhouse moved to approve the Preliminary Plat of Oakland Meadows with
two contingencies:
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1. The Final Plat will show State Board of Health perc test approval.
2. The utility easement crossing the private drive serving Lots 14 and 1S will be
properly designated on the Final Plat.
Newton Hailey seconded Keith Newhouse's motion to approve. Mr. Hailey stated
that there had been no prior indication submitted to the City that the County Planning
Commission had waived improvement to the County Road 539, therefore, the Subdivision
Committee had felt it should be included in the City's approval to require it.
General Kendall took this opportunity to discuss the problem with long private
drives serving tandem lots in Subdivisions under the County's jurisdiction. He
stated that any time two or more persons use the same drive, it comes under County
maintenance. He stated that he would welcome suggestions by the Planning Commission.
Ernest Jacks asked if there would be any advantage to a meeting of both Planning
Commissions. Kendall said he would like some kind of specific recommendation in
relation to streets incorporating feelings of the Street Department and the Planning
Commission.
Ernest Jacks asked Bobbie Jones to include the off-site improvements ordinance
(Ord. 2570) as a discussion item in the Subdivision Committee agenda,for August 11, 1980.
The Commission voted on Keith Newhouse's motion to approve and it passed (7-0).
The next item for consideration was the approval
of the concurrent plat of Replat of Lots
2, 3, 4, 5 and 6, Lewis Estates, bounded on the
North by Howard Nickel Road and bounded on the West
by North/South Salem Road and on the South by
East/West Salem Road; James E. Lindsey and Nita V.
Ann Rutledge, Owners. Jim Lindsey and Gary Carnahan were present to represent.
Keith Newhouse moved to approve the concurrent plat of Lots 2, 3, 4, 5 and 6,
Lewis Estates with two contingencies:
1. The street rights-of-way will be clarified on the final plat showing the off
set of pins and full right-of-way widths and dedications.
CONCURRENT PLAT OF
REPLAT - LEWIS
ESTATES
Lindsey and John R. and Rebecca
2. Developer will furnish State Board of Health approval of perc data.
Newton Hailey seconded Keith Newhouse's motion to approve.
(7-0).
The Planning Commission considered the
next two items jointly.
Item four was the approval of the
concept plat of Garland Court, a Planned
Unit Development located at the Northeast
corner of Garland and Sycamore Streets;
Fayetteville Housing Authority, Developer.
Developer is requesting a waiver of the requirement
for approval of the concept plat.
The motion passed
GARLAND COURT
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
HAPPY HOLLOW COURT
PLANNED UNIT DEVELOPMENT
that a public hearing be held
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Also, approval of the concept plat of Happy Hollow Court, a Planned Unit
Development located on the West side of Happy Hollow Road and North of Fourth
Street; Fayetteville Housing Authority, Developer. Developer is requesting a waiver
of the requirement that a public hearing be held for approval of the concept plat.
Jim Vizzier and Chad Kumpe were present to represent.
Ernest Jacks stated that due to Newton Hailey being involved in the Development,
the Subdivision Committee could not hear these two items and had passed them on without
recommendation for consideration by the Planning Commission.
Ernest Jacks stated that as he understands the request, the Developers are asking
for a waiver of the advertisement requirement on a small land area PUD. He stated
that the Developers had made an attempt to notify property owners around the sites,
and there were several persons in the audience to hear these two items.
Doctor Abney, Chairman of the Board of Trustees of the Trinity Methodist Church,
addressed the Commission. He stated that their Church was across Sycamore Street
from the proposed PUD. He stated that he had been made aware of the Planned Unit
Development Thursday, and called a meeting of the Trustee's of the Church Friday
evening. He stated that he, as well as those he represents, is strictly opposed to
the PUD.
Abney said that one of the members of the Church was very familiar with this
type of housing and the persons who live there. He said that this member had said
that it takes this type of people about two months to tear up the housing. He said
that another member of the Church, a carpenter, was constantly busy maintaining this
type of housing,because the persons living there tear it up.
He stated that he was a Christian person and believed in helping people, but
not these people. He stated that he did not want persons such as this near his
Church yard.
Abney stated that these people would be entering and exiting the development
right across from the Church. He said these people all have five or six broken down
cars that don't run. They don't have any mufflers and they are noisy. He said all
of these cars will be out there by the Church all the time. He also stated that
if he falls asleep in Church, he wants the preacher to wake him up not these kind of
people racing their engines. He said they would be hothing but trouble.
Mr. Abney stated he represents five hundred good,Christian people who feel the same
way he does, and they want to request a public hearing so they can all voice their
opinions.
Peg Anderson asked what the Planning Commission's power is in a case like this;
can the Commission, in fact, waive the public hearing.
Ernest Jacks stated that there is a blanket power to waive any provision of
the PUD Ordinance written into that Ordinance.
Peg Anderson asked if the Commission was to consider whether adequate notification
had been made to the persons surrounding the areas. Ernest Jacks stated, essentially
that was correct.
Peg Anderson asked if the material furnished the Commission was the names and
addresses of persons notified. Newton Hailey stated that was correct, but that some
of the property owners live out of town.
Jim Vizzier stated that the Developers were not requesting the Commission to waive
the public hearing, but that they would like to use alternate means of notifying the
property owners. He stated they were requesting this because of the time frame
set up for applying for HUD funding. He said that the Housing Authority had notified
persons living out of town by registered mail, and persons living in the area by
a hand carried letter, explaining that the hearing would be held today.
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Windell Cullers asked how long the Developers had had to work on this project,
and why all of the sudden urgency. Jim Vizzier stated that the Fayetteville Housing
Authority had worked within the schedule, but due to some apparent concern over the
scattered housing concept, the Little Rock HUD Office had held up the process.
Chad Kumpe stated the Housing Authority had been working on obtaining sites for
two years. Jim Vizzier said that they had been working on the scattered sites for
only two months.
Mrs. Bob Wright, who lives at the corner of Sycamore and Oakland, addressed the
Commission. She stated that she was not notified in any way.
Charles Pope, 1632 East Fifth Street, addressed the Commission. He stated he had
contacted some persons regarding the Happy Hollow project, and they had been unable to
attend the meeting. He stated that if the Commission waived the public hearing, these
people would be deprived of their right to voice their opinions.
The Chairman asked for a show of hands of persons in the audience present in
regard to these projects. There were several persons present.
Mort Gitelman moved to waive the notification requirements and hold the public
hearing at this time. Peg Anderson seconded.
Windell Cullers felt the motion was unfair. He stated that the reason for holding
a public hearing was to give people an opportunity to respond to a request. He stated
that if persons a block away were not notified, he did not see how the requirements
could be waived. He also objected because the opponents did not have the usual
fifteen days to prepare for the hearing.
Peg Anderson stated that several people had shown up and had been given an
opportunity to voice their opinions.
The Commission voted on Gitelman's motion to waive the notification requirements.
The motion failed to pass (4-3). Gitelman, Redfern, Anderson and Hailey cast "Aye"
votes, and Newhouse, Jacks and Cullers cast "Nay" votes.
Mort Gitelman stated it would be a tremendous tragedy to loose the HUD funds
because the public hearing is not held today.
Newhouse felt it was a tragedy that the HUD Office in Little Rock threw away a
whole month.
Bobbie Jones stated this decision could be appealed to the Board of Directors.
She said that the persons present in the audience would receive notification in the
newspaper of any appeal procedure.
Redfern stated that this same Church had been in favor of an apartment complex
just two months earlier.
Doctor Abney stated that he had not been opposed to the apartment complex because
Mr. Sweetser was building it. Dr. Abney stated that he did not like the kind of people
that would be moving into a housing development for "public housing".
The sixth item on the Agenda was a request VARIANCE LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT
for a variance from the lot size requirement BOX -FAIRCHILD
applicable to a lot split submitted by ELM ST. AND GREEN ACRES RD.
Box -Fairchild for property at the Northwest
corner of Elm Street and Green Acres Road,
zoned R-0, Residential -Office District. John Box and Dr. Terry Box were present to
represent.
Mr. Box addressed the Commission. He stated that he wished to split off about
80 ft. of property, on which there is an existing house, off the West side. He
stated there is a new office building on the remaining portion of property. Mr.
Box stated he would have the property surveyed by a surveyor.
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Dr. Terry Box stated that he lives
property and wished to have it separate
building sits for financing.
John Box stated the house and the
deed.
in the house on the 80 ft. strip of
from the property on which the office
office are presently on the same abstract and
Ernest Jacks stated that the minimum lot size for a lot split is three acres,
and this falls far below the minimum.
Bobbie Jones stated that Mr. Box did not want to mortgage both the house
and the office building, but the office building only.
Martin Redfern asked Mr. Box to elaborate on the Bill of Assurance.
Bobbie Jones stated that the Bill of Assurance was entered into with the City
at the time the Board of Directors acted on the rezoning of this property.
It had to do with a commercial driveway off of Green Acres Road and prohibited any
commercial driveways off Elm Street.
Mr. Box stated that the driveway for the house in on Elm Street and that
he would maintain a legal easement along the North side of the lot for access.
Regardless of whether the land is developed commercially or as offices, he would
maintain the easement.
Redfern asked if the Bill of Assurance would still be met. Mr. Box replied
that it would.
Keith Newhouse moved to approve the request to vary the minimum lot size.
Newton Hailey seconded, the.°motion passed (7-0).
The next item for consideration OFF SITE PARKING
was the request for approval of off-site 24 NORTH LOCUST AVE.
parking for a proposed law office at 24 North Locust Ave; JAMES MILLER
submitted by James F. Miller, Attorney at Law; zoned
R-0, Residential Office District. James F. Miller
was present to represent.
Mr. Miller addressed the Commission. He stated that his office was on a
corner lot, and that it was at one time a residence. He said that the lot is not
sufficient in size to accomodate the required number of parking spaces. He said
that he is within 300 ft. of a City Parking Lot, and that he is located in Parking
District #1, which should be provided with adequate parking convenient to his
location in the near future. He said there are about five off street parking
areas within walking distance from his office. Therefore, he was asking the
Commission to waive the off-street parking requirements for his law office.
Peg Anderson asked if he had parking spaces for any cars.
Ernest Jacks stated that Mr. Miller's clients would probably park on the
street. He felt that the Commission was putting a good deal of traffic in the
fringe residential areas, but that he understood that these areas are zoned so
they can transition to office uses.
Keith Newhouse was concerned about the frequency of granting approval of
off-site parking using City Parking Lots. He asked if anyone has kept a listing of
the number of times and spaces the Commission has approved. Bobbie Jones said they
have not.
Ernest Jacks acknowledged the growing problem. He said there had been a number
of similar offices developed in the last few months.
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Peg Anderson stated that a central business district often has parking problems,
but that everything was close enough to walk to. Anderson moved to approve the
request for off-site parking at City Parking Lots. Mort Gitelman seconded.
Martin Redfern asked Mr. Miller if his was a voluntary contribution to the off-
street parking district. Mr. Miller stated that the contribution was assessed, that
it was included in his taxes, and was not voluntary. Martin Redfern asked how much
was contributed per office. Mr. Miller replied that the cost was shared proportionately
by property owners in the area.
Peg Anderson's motion to approve passed (7-0).
The next item for consideration was a DEFINITION
discussion of Large Scale Development definition LARGE SCALE DEVELOPMENT
based on oneacre lot size requirement.. LOT SIZE REQUIREMENT
(Tabled July 14, 1980).
Ernest Jacks said he felt the one acre lot size requirement was unreasonable.
He said that in order to go through the process, sometimes it takes months to get
a building permit.
Morton Gitelman suggested applying the Large Scale Development theory to any
structure that requires a building permit, the building permit being the criteria.
Mort Gitelman stated that for the most part the Large Scale Development regulations
are written for commercial structures.
Anderson felt that if the Commission went this way with it, single family
residences should be exempt.
Ernest Jacks asked how much of a load it would add to the Subdivision Committee
to down grade the acreage requirement on a Large Scale Development. Bobbie Jones
stated that it would increase their work load as well as the work load of the
Planning Office a great deal.
Jim Lindsey stated that in Rogers, Arkansas, the Building Inspector applies
the principles of the Large Scale Development requirements to any structure requiring
a building permit. He stated that the Building Inspector has authority up to a certain
point, and after that point, or if there are any problems, he refers them to the
governing body (Planning Commission or Subdivision Committee).
Peg Anderson stated there should be a check list, and if everything complies
with the check list, then there is no need for the Subdivision Committee to hear it.
Ernest Jacks said copies of the Rogers' Ordinances should be requested.
Mort Gitelman stated he would be more comfortable if specifications were
written to take in driveways, landscaping etc. He said a check list was a good
idea, and the people could handle most of the requirements themselves.
The Chairman appointed a Committee to study alternatives consisting of
Chairman Keith Newhouse, Morton Gitelman and Larry Wood. The Committee set up a
meeting for the 26th of August at 4:00 P.M., in the City Administration Building.
Morton Gitelman requested copies of the Large Scale Development Ordinance for
members of the Committee.
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The nineth item on the Agenda BOARD OF ADJUSTMENT
was a request for an audience to discuss the recent APPEAL
action of the Board of Adjustment on an appeal for JEREMY HESS
minimum land area per two bedroom dwelling unit
in R-2, requested by Jeremy Hess.
There was no one present to represent.
Larry Wood stated that Mr. Hess had a piece of property with a little over
18,000 square feet of land area. Mr. Hess wanted to build ten two-bedroom units, but
the Board of Adjustment had turned him down as his square footage would only allow
nine units. Mr. Hess says the building will be exactly the same size whether
nine or ten units are built. Mr. Wood said he had talked to Mr. Hess and suggested
the Commission might look at changing the land area requirement in connection
with its study on setbacks and height restrictions.
The Planning Commission passed this item on to be dealt with along with item 11.
Ralph Brophy had called the Planning Office
earlier in the day and asked to have his
request to relocate sidewalks tabled.
There being no one present to represent, Mort
Gitelman moved that this item be tabled, Keith Newhouse seconded, the motion passed
(7-0).
BROPHY CIRCLE TOWNHOUSES
RELOCATION OF SIDEWALKS
The last item of business was a Report
from a Committee studying minimum bulk and area
requirements for townhouses and increased
side setbacks based on height of structure,
Martin Redfern, Chairman (Tabled July 14, 1980).
Martin Redfern addressed the Commission. He stated the Committee has three
recommendations::
STUDY ON BULK AND AREA
AND INCREASED SIDE SETBACKS
IN TOWNHOUSE DEVELOPMENTS
1. In a case where the side setbacks jump a tremendous amount when a structure
goes over twenty feet, the Committee proposes that the Commission change the
Ordinance to read that the additional setback will be accrued from the 20 ft.
height so that after a building reaches 20 ft., it will be setback an additional
foot for every foot in height over twenty feet.
2. Narrow down the minimum width for a townhouse from 24 ft. to 14 ft. in cases
of condominiums and townhouses.
3. Clarify definition of townhouses and condominiums.
Ernest Jacks said that in
Commission would be faced with
they should be considered row h
Jacks further stated that
is inappropriate. In cases of
cases of individual ownership of apartments, the
the problem of dividing them into lots. He stated
ouses.
in a case of individual ownership, the term townhouse
individual ownership, the term would be condominium.
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In regard to the height setback, Mort Gitelman asked what the setback would
be on a building similar to Hillcrest Towers. Ernest Jacks stated it would be
about 100 ft. Mort Gitelman said he thought that setback requirement was a bit
unreasonable, because all of the green space would be nice, but it should be utilized
also. Mort Gitelman asked if there was a floor area radius.
Windell Cullers asked about building on 50 ft. lots, Bobbie Jones stated there
is a minimum lot size which varies in the residential zones. She said a SO ft.
lot could be built on if the setbacks are met, provided that lot had been in separate
ownership from the lots adjacent to it since June 29, 1980. Bobbie Jones did ask
if the Committee was recommending a change in the minimum land area for an individual
townhouse, which is 2500 square feet. She said if the lot is only 14 ft. wide, it
would have to be 178 ft! deep. Mr. Gitelman said it will probably ne necessary
to make some amendments, in addition to those recommended by the Committee, at
a later date.
Ernest Jacks stated that most developments in terms of condominiums would meet
minimum lot size requirements.
Morton Gitelman moved to ask Jim McCord to draft an ordinance to amend the
Zoning Ordinance as recommended by the Committee, and have the Planning Commission
hold a public hearing.
Windell Cullers seconded Mort Gitelman's motion. The motion passed (7-0).
• There being no further business, the meeting adjourned at 6:30, P.M.
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