HomeMy WebLinkAbout1976-11-22 MinutesMINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
A meeting of the Fayetteville Planning Commission was held at 5:00 P. M., Monday,
November 22, 1976, in the Board of Directors Room, City Administration Building,
Fayetteville, Arkansas.
MEMBERS PRESENT: Chairman John Power, Peg Anderson, Vice -Chairman
Keith Newhouse, Bill Kisor, John Maguire, Donald
Ray, Rita Davis (arrived 5:10)
MEMBERS ABSENT:
OTHERS PRESENT:
None.
Ernest Jacks,
Nickell, Jack
Paul and Suzie Marinoni, Jr., Larry Wood, Pastor Ralph Goff, L. W.
Kirby, Charles Nickle, Alan Beauchamp, Bobbie Jones, Angie Medlock,
Mildred Wilkins, William Lankford, Lloyd Patterson, Don Grimes,
and other unidentified persons.
Chairman Power called the meeting to order.
The minutes of the November 8, 1976, Planning Commission
were approved as mailed.
MINUTES
At the suggestion of Chairman John Power the Commission deviated from the order of
the published agenda. The first item considered was a request for withdrawal.
Chairman Power asked Mr. Marinoni if he is just
making a request for withdrawal of the petition
and Mr. Marinoni said he is.
Vice -Chairman Jacks moved to accept the withdrawal.
Peg Anderson seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously, by a vote of 8-0.
PAUL A. MARINONI
Rezoning Petition No. 76-34
Request for Withdrawal
The next item for discussion was the
proposed revision to the Conditional
Use Request and Large Scale Develop-
ment Plan submitted by Alan Beauchamp,
for property lying North of Old Wire Road and West of Crossover Road. The Planning
Commission had approved a Conditional Use for tennis courts on December 19, 1972.
Mr. Beauchamp now wants to move the location of the house and tennis hut to the
North of the approved location.
Vice -Chairman Jacks said it seems to be to Mr. Beauchamp's advantage to move the
pro shop from one location to another. He said the Subdivision Committee approved of
what he is trying to do; but Mr. Beauchamp wanted to know how much flexibility he will
have.
Mr. Beauchamp asked if, as long as he doesn't get within 100 feet of anyone's property
line and is not in the flood plain and not outside of the dotted area which he
originally proposed, could he build where he decided. He stated that his problem is
mainly one of indecision. He said before it was a long way for the utilities. He
can now face all of the windows to the South and save on his heating, it is a better
view, and he doesn't see any reason why he would want to change again but he wants
to know if he can move it 25 feet or so without coming back to the Planning Commission.
Bobbie Jones said she would have no objections if the Planning Commission wanted to
give them some latitude, she and Alan Beauchamp could work within those guidelines.
Chairman Power said they could let him move 25-30 feet but if he decides to move 50 or
100 feet he would need to come back before moving the building.
Mr. Beauchamp stated that he would not be building another building or moving the
tennis courts, just the structure. He agreed that 30 feet is enough latitude for
him to move the building if he desires.
REVISION TO CONDITIONAL USE REQUEST
Alan Beauchamp
N. of Old Wire Rd. $ W. of Crossover
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Chairman Power said he is in agreement as long as Alan Beauchamp isn't on the flood
plain, is 100 feet from property owners, and is off of the gas line. Vice -Chairman
Jacks made a motion to approve this request contingent upon the limitations of 100
feet setbacks on the west, that he not be in the flood plain, that he stay off the
gas lines and utilities, and that he have a 30 foot maximum flexibility in any
direction within the proposed site.
Bill Kisor seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously, by a vote of 9-0.
Planning Consultant Larry Wood gave a report on a REPORT ON DOWNTOWN AREA
study of the land use and zoning of the "downtown Larry Wood
area". This item had been tabled at the November 8,
1976, meeting? The area covered in the report extended from Dickson Street (on the
North) to Archibald Yell (on the South) and on: Highway 71 (on the East) to the
railroad tracks (on the West). He said there is so much going on that he is curious
about the Planning Commission's feelings about the different areas involved here
and requested their opinions. He mentioned that we have a problem with the !'service
commercial" area and defining what "service commercial" is. He said that the pre-
dominant land use in the area south of Dickson is residential, mostly single-family.
He also asked the Planning Commission's feelings about the intersection of East
and Dickson Street, by the churches and Post Office. He said he feels this area
should be protected by not letting commercial in there. Bobbie Jones stated that
service commercial was intended as R-0 when the map was adopted in 1970. She said
R-0 permits mostly professional services, with restaurants on appeal to the Planning
Commission. Larry Wood stated that Urban Renewal may proceed to the point they will
fix their land use plan before the Planning Commission has time to give their input.
Chairman Power asked if the Commissioners could give their individual reports to Larry
Wood and have Larry Wood send them to Urban Renewal. Larry Wood said this would be
all right.
Chairman Power said each of the Commissioners should make their individual recommen-
dation to Larry Wood if they see areas they feel strongly about. He said they should
get back to Larry Wood by the first of the year. Mr. Wood is to refine the study
and prepare another report after the first of the year.
Vice -Chairman Jacks said he and the UNIVERSITY BAPTIST CHURCH
City Manager and representatives of University Proposed Revision to Conditional Use
Baptist Church had a meeting about the Request and Approval of Off -Site Parking
Church's Large Scale Development. He 315 West Maple
said they do have a conditional use request
and a request for off-site parking but the Subdivision Committee only considered the
Large Scale Development. He said the preliminary subject of the meeting was to straighten
out the jog in Maple Street. Peg Anderson asked if this is the old Large Scale Develop-
ment or a new one. Vice -Chairman Jacks said it is the same one that was submitted a
couple of weeks ago, which is a revision to the one submitted several years ago.
Chairman Power asked Bobbie Jones if there is any need to notify the adjacent property
owners. Bobbie Jones said they already have been notified. She said there were some
requests for waiver of parking requirements which the Board of Adjustment voted on and
partially approved.
Donald Nickell asked if this is a continuation of what Bryce Davis brought before
them about a year ago and Bobbie Jones said it is.
Ralph Goff, Church Administrator, said several years ago they submitted plans which
they are not going to go through with now. Now they have proposed a two-story
building in a different location. He said the diagram which they have shows the
parking facilities now available and proposed parking. He stated that the parking lot
south of Lafayette (Lot #2) and Parking Lot 111, west of Vandeventer are the two parking
lots in question as off-site parking which the Planning Commission must approve. The
Board of Adjustment denied their request to waive certain parking setbacks and to waive
the requirements for surfacing of Parking Lot #2. He said this development should last
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them for awhile. He stated that the number of parking spaces will be adequate for
what they are going to do.
Peg Anderson stated that this is almost a subdivision. She said that when they get
asphalt on the parking lots, the drainage problem.wi11 get worse. She stated that
since this is a tax-free institution, the City won't get any money from them to be
used to correct this problem, unless they get it now. She said she thinks Churches
should have to pay taxes.
Chairman Power asked Don Grimes, City Manager, if they had worked out something
with the Church about taking the jog out of Maple Street. Mr. Grimes said they
hadn't reached any definite agreements.
Peg Anderson asked what conditions the Planning Commission has to approve the off-site
parking lots. Vice=Chairman Jacks said the present Large Scale Development ordinance
requires the Church to present rights-of-way to bring the streets to the Master Street
Plan.
Chairman Power stated that we look at this as a conditional use request instead of a
subdivision because this has been here for a long time where a subdivision is the using
and developing of new land.
Vice -Chairman Jacks said the Subdivision Committee had looked at this as a Large
Scale Development and the only question that they came up with had to do with the
rights-of-way to bring the streets up to Master Street standards. He said the
Subdivision Committee recommends that the Planning Commission require the sufficient
rights-of-way: an additional 10 feet on Maple Street east of Vandeventer, an additional
10 feet on Lafayette, (5 feet on each side), an additional 5 feet on West Avenue. On
Campbell Avenue, the Subdivision Committee recommends not requiring any additional
right-of-way because it is essentially being used as an alley (23 feet wide) and there
is another street only half a block away. He said there are two possibilities for
Vandeventer--either close (vacate) it or not require any additional right-of-way.
Pastor Goff said these rights-of-way should be agreeable with them.
Vice -Chairman Jacks stated that the Church is very cooperative about straightening
out Maple. He said they will have to go through a process to get this worked out,
but the Subdivision Committee recommended not holding up the building that the Church
proposes.
Vice -Chairman Jacks said that the conditional use is building of the church and
related facilities in the residential (R-3) zone. Vice -Chairman Jacks said the
Subdivision Committee recommended that the Planning Commission approve the Large
Scale Development plan and grant the conditional use with the contingencies of the
right-of-way on Maple Street, Lafayette Street, and West Avenue, and require no
further right-of-way on Campbell Avenue, and no additional right-of-way on Vandeventer.
Bill Kisor seconded the motion, which was passed 8-0, with Peg Anderson abstaining.
Don Grimes said they are not actually closing Vandeventer, it will remain open as a
thoroughfare for utilities. He said they are going to vacate it as public right-of-
way rather than close it. Vice -Chairman Jacks moved to approve the off-site parking
as shown on the plans.
Peg Anderson said she is still very concerned about the drainage, she said the more
paving, the more ice on the streets so she thinks they should put in as much land-
scaping as possible. Rita Davis said the Church would probably take this into
consideration.
Vice -Chairman Jacks' motion to approve the off-site parking as requested was approved
8-0 with Peg Anderson abstaining.
Chairman Power opened discussion on the next item, PAUL MARINONI, JR.
the conditional use request for duplexes on the Aberdeen Avenue
Southeast corner of Highway 16 West and Aberdeen Conditional Use for Duplexes
Avenue, submitted by Paul Marinoni, Jr.
Chairman Power acknowledged a written objection from R. H. Hughes and Olive J. Hughes,
2510 Wedington Drive, who want to go on record as adjoining property owners, as
being in opposition to the request.
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Vice-Chairman Jacks said the Subdivision Committee approved the Large Scale Develop-
ment Plan contingent upon Paul Marinoni, Jr. providing the City with a contract to
extend Aberdeen Avenue to his south property line whenever there is development to the
south or west, and that he move the one duplex back 5 feet to the west and show where
the trash containers will be placed The Planning Commission must approve the condi-
tional use, however.
Lloyd Patterson, 2364 Ora Drive said that apartments would change the quality of the
neighborhood; and that much of the property adjacent to this is owner -occupied dwellings
and owners take more pride in their homes than the renters would. He stated that two
families had either built or bought recently with the idea that this was a single
family area and since this property is already zoned R-1, he doesn't think it is
fair to the property owners to change it.
Chairman Power said that in R-1 and R-2, they view duplexes as being all right. He
said the Planning Commission doesn't feel like they are looking at the intensity of
apartments when they are looking at duplexes. Chairman Power said Mr. Patterson's
basic objections are the intensity -of the duplexes, and that they are getting out of
the R-1 zone, and the care that is given to duplexes.
Peg Anderson asked if there is not a creek bed between their properties, and Mr.
Patterson said "yes".
Vice -Chairman Jacks told Mr. Patterson that duplexes are permitted upon appeal to the
Planning Commission in R-1.
William Lankford, 2372 Ora Drive, said he feels duplexes are the same as apartments
only on a smaller scale. He stated that to the west they would have more right to
change to apartments if duplexes are permitted. He said Mr. Marinoni had told him
that he had no intention of selling this piece of property but now there is a for
sale sign on it.
Paul Marinoni, Jr. said his father had listed it with a real estate agency six months
ago. The agency has just recently put the sign up but the listing will expire
within two weeks. He said that since that time he first came up with the proposal
to build apartments, and since has come up with proposal to build duplexes, which
is what they now want to do. He said they have no intention of selling the property.
Chairman Power asked Planning Consultant Larry Wood if he feels they would be setting
a precedent by letting Mr. Marinoni build the duplexes. Larry Wood said that from a
land use standpoint it doesn't bother him, he encourages the mixing of duplexes
with single=family. He stated that there isn't that much difficulty in the two living
together. He mentioned that 50% of the ownership in this City is rental. He stated
that we do have a problem with the maintenance, but we will continue to have this
problem. He said there is nothing to say that single-family houses are sacred in
terms of rental or owner -occupied and the adopted land use plan says you will attempt
in each neighborhood to provide a variety of dwelling units for all income levels and
all types of desires.
Chairman Power asked Larry Wood if he doesn't think this will set a precedent as they
move to the West and Larry Wood said no.
Mr. Maguire said he agrees that you can mix these and we can live with multiple family
dwellings on Highway 16. He stated that the City agreed to permit these only on
appeal to the Planning Commission and the Planning Commission should use extraordinary
care in permitting these. He said maybe Mr. Marinoni should build a couple of single
family dwellings and then build duplexes. He mentioned that Mr. Marinoni owns a lot
of land there to do this. He said he is against this. Mr. Lankford stated that the
same man owns property to the bypass and had told him that he won't put single-family
dwellings in, because there is no money in them.
Mrs. Mildred Wilkins, 2323 Ora, stated that Al Hughes wanted to build duplexes at the
other end of Ora Drive and was refused. She said that now there are beautiful homes
going in there. She said it seems ironic to allow duplexes now at this end of Ora.
Peg Anderson stated that she has no objection to the duplexes as long as they have the
required 12,000 square feet of footage, however, she would rather Mr. Marinoni
develop a Planned Unit Development.
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Peg Anderson said you need to consider the development of towns and as towns grow,
you will have to live closer together.
Rita Davis said she agreed with John Maguire. She said the feelings of the neighbors
should be considered on conditional use requests.
Mr. Marinoni said he proposes to build high quality duplexes, all brick, with fire-
places, carpet, and high rent. He said they would be a tribute to the neighborhood.
Mr. Marinoni stated that the property involved is zoned R-1, single-family residential,
and if all they can do is build single-family, they will have to continue to farm it.
He said all they could do with single-family is to sell it, and they don't want to
sell it
Peg Anderson asked if he had figured out how many single family
build there. She said a 75 foot lot is all you need to build a
the looks of a lot of houses in a row would be worse than duplex
Rita Davis said she doesn't like the idea of going beyond Ora D
Marinoni seems to be wanting to rezone without going to the Board.
John Maguire said this has nothing to do with the best land use. He said the Planning
Commission needs to protect the neighbors and he would vote for it if the neighbors
were in approval. Mr. Lankford said Mr Marinoni doesn't want to sell the property
between the Church and the creek. He questioned what made this property more valuable
than that he sold to the Church. Mr. Marinoni stated that they had sold that property
to the Church 11 years ago. He said water and sewer were put in on the subject at
Mr. Marinoni's expense, and this is an attempt to utilize these facilities. He said
there are no facilities on the other side of the Church.
Peg Anderson said that along Lonnie Avenue there is a creekbed which is wooded and
goes right along beside the road; the street and creek are both between Marinoni's
property and the property of the objectors.
Peg Anderson moved to approve the conditional use for the duplexes.
Bill Kisor seconded the motion, which failed to pass, 3-6-0, with Anderson, Kisor,
and Jacks voting "Aye", and Ray, Davis, Power, Newhouse, and Nickell voting "Nay".
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Chairman John Power opened discussion
on the Conditional Use Request submitted
by Charles and Robert Nickle for a duplex at
242 and 244 Baxter Lane, and the Conditional
Use Request for a duplex at 234 and 236
Baxter Lane, submitted by William P. Kennedy.
Chairman John Power asked if the property owners had been notified and Bobbie Jones
said they had been mailed the necessary notification, return receipt requested by
the applicants.
Mr. Charles Nickle was present to represent all parties.
Mr. Nickle said this land in this location is the only land vacant on the street and
they plan to develop it with a nice duplex on each lot. He feels the growth of the
Hospital has increased the need for housing in this area. He said they are planning
on putting up nice duplexes and feel this is a reasonable request. He said some of
the property around is rented and he has not heard any objection from any of the
property owners in the neighborhood. Charles Nickle said they do own the property
across the street on the east side of Willow.
Donald Nickell asked what kind of finish they are going to put on the duplexes and
Charles Nickle said it would be brick, with fireplaces.
Seth Jewell, 306 Baxter said he wished this property could stay as a vacant lot or
that he could afford to purchase it himself, but he realized this was not possible.
He questioned if Mr. Nickle was going to connect with sewer, he said the water
pressure is not very good but he had spoken with the City Engineer and was told the
duplexes would probably not affect the water pressure, also he was concerned about
the narrow entrance on to Baxter Lane from College Avenue. He asked if there could
be a limit on the number of parking spaces allowed. Chairman Power said he has some
kind of limitation. Bobbie Jones said he is required to have four parking spaces but
CONDITIONAL USE REQUESTS
Robert $ Charles Nickle
242 $ 244 Baxter Lane
William P. Kennedy
234 F, 236 Baxter Lane
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could put six or eight if he needed to. She said the more he puts in, the more
restrictions he has to face. She also said they would have to be paved, so the
more parking spaces he put, the more expensive it would be for him. Mr. Jewell
said he wouldn't like to see more than six.
Chairman Power said City Attorney, Jim McCord said the Planning Commission could
put restrictions on conditional uses when approving them.
Mr. Jewell asked if Mr. Nickle would have to build the duplexes to the plans he had
shown him or could he change this. Chairman Power said he could not change the
basic structure of the building or its position on the property. Bobbie Jones stated
that if there is only a variation of 2-4 feet the Planning Office could adjust this,
otherwise he would have to come back to the Planning Commission and have them look at
it again. Mr. Jewell asked if he would be able to change the outside appearance of
the duplex. Mr. Nickle said he has the plans they intend to use.
Peg Anderson moved to approve the conditional use requests for duplexes at 242 and
244 Baxter Lane, submitted by Robert and Charles Nickle, and the conditional use
request for a duplex at 234 and 236 Baxter Lane, submitted by William Kennedy with
the stipulation that there be a minimum of four and not more than six parking
spaces per duplex, and the owner not move more than two feet from what is presently
shown. Keith Newhouse seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously, by a
vote of 9-0.
Donald Nickell requested the records reflect that he is no relation to Charles Nickle.
The last item was the public hearing to amend
Ordinance 1747, Article 6, Section (8) (B),
Appendix A of the Fayetteville Code of Ordinances
to permit home occupations in the R-1 Zoning District on appeal
Commission and in the A-1 Zoning District as a use by right.
Peg Anderson said it really doesn't change the requirements for home occupations other
than adding them to those zones. Chairman John Power said he feels they should leave
the Ordinance as it is. Peg Anderson made a motion to approve the amendment to permit
home occupations in the R-1 Zoning District on appeal to the Planning Commission and
in the A-1 Zoning District as a use by right. Mr. Jacks seconded the motion. The
motion failed to pass 3-6-0 with Anderson, Jacks and Kisor voting "Aye" and Power,
Newhouse, Nickell, Maguire, Ray, and Davis voting "Nay".
HOME OCCUPATIONS
Ordinance 1747, Article 6
to the Planning
The meeting was adjourned at 7:10 P. M.
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RESOLUTION PC 73-76
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Fayetteville Planning
Commission, Monday, November 22, 1976, fifteen (15) days after a
notice was published in the Northwest Arkansas Times, a newspaper
of general circulation; and
WHEREAS, after the public hearing, the Planning Commission voted
to deny the proposed ordinance to amend Ordinance 1747, Article 6,
Section (8) (B), Appendix A to'the Fayetteville Code of Ordinances,
to permit home occupations in the R-1 Zoning District on appeal to
the Planning Commission and in the A-1 Zoning District as a use by
right;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION
TO THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CITY OF FAYETTEVILLE, ARKANSAS.
SECTION 1. That the proposed 'ordinance to amend Ordinance 1747
be denied.
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PASSED AND APPROVED this
day of , 1976.
APPROVED:
John Power, Chairman