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MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION MEETING
The Fayetteville Planning Commission met at 4:00 P.M., Tuesday, October 23,1973 in
the Chamber of Commerce Board Room, 123 West Mountain, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
Members Present:
Members Absent:
Others Present:
Marvin Murphy, Donald Nickell, Morton Gitelman, Roy Clinton,
Ernest Jacks, Helen Edmiston, Al Hughes, Christine Childress.
John Maguire
Bobbie Jones, David McWethy, Iris Dees,
Jerre Van Hoose,
Representatives from Hyland Park, Inc., James E. Lindsey.
Chairman Roy Clinton called the meeting to order. HYLAND PARK
Final Plat
Chairman Roy Clinton asked for a Subdivision Committee Report on the first matter
being discussed which was the Final Plat for Hyland Park, Phase I, with James E.
Lindsey present, Mr. Jacks, Chairman of the Subdivision Committee, said the Committee
found the final plat perfect. Ernest Jacks moved that the Commission recommend to
the Board of Directors that the Final Plat of Hyland Park, Phase I, be approved with
a Subdivider's contract in lieu of installed improvements. Helen Edmiston seconded
the motion which was approved unanimously. Mr. James E. Lindsey thanked the
Commission for the patience and help it had given them.
The next matter discussed was the proposed Final Plat of the JOHNSON ROAD SUBDIVISION
Johnson Road Subdivision, submitted by Kelley Brothers Lumber Final Plat
and Supply Company, Inc., J.B. Phelps, President. Mr. Clinton
asked for comments from the Subdivision Committee and Mr. Jacks said according to the
information he learned from Bobbie Jones, it was his understanding that when the
preliminary plat was submitted there was only 50 feet of right-of-way on Johnson Road
required but the new Mayor Street Plan requires 80 feet and on the final plat
60 feet of right-of-way is shown possibly because the Street Superintendent asked for
60 feet. Mr.-•Clinton.asked_f the curb and gutters were in and Bobbie Jones said
they were trying to get all improvements in so that they would not have to file a
contract on this and on that basis she said the improvements were probably in. Roy
Clinton said they could live with a 60 foot right-of-way if they had to. Mrs. Edmiston
said they could not give any more unless they replatted. Bobbie Jones said this
would affect the setbacks on lots along Johnson Road unless the Board of Directors
waives or varies the Major_Street..Plan or the Board of Adjustment grants a variance.
The Chairman, Roy Clinton suggested that they recommend to the Board of Directors that
they accept this plat and show a variance on this particular stretch. He said because
we are honorable men and women we are committed to this and we gave them no reason to
do otherwise.
Al Hughes expressed concern on a street coming onto Johnson Road every 200 feet and
said it seems to be a pretty busy place out there. Mrs. Edmiston commented that it
was on the preliminary plat and no one said a word about it. Chairman Clinton said
that theoretically it would be servicing 10 units for each street and he didn't think
it was that bad of a problem since they were not through streets. Mr. Jacks said they
have a provision written in that driveways for those lots along Johnson Road have to be
on the cul-de-sacs and at least 50 feet back from Johnson Road.
Jerre Van Hoose with McGoodwii, Williams, and Yates arrived at this time to discuss the
plat with the Commission. Mr. Clinton asked him what the 120 foot square at the end
of Swallow Circle was for and he said that it is street ROW to provide access to Lot 41.
Jerre Van Hoose said that on all the other streets the ROW is circular to match construc-
tion of the street but in this case this is where the cul-de-sac will be built for that
street. The right-of-way is kind of square and there will be a cul-de-sac built in that
square. He said Lot 41 can never be anything other than what it is shown as, a utility
and drainage easement. He said the flood plain comes up to the back side of these
other lots and the ROW was made that way in the. event the City ever wants to take this
Lot 41 for recreational purposes or whatever so a driveway could be put on it.
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Ernest Jacks told Mr. Van Hoose that on the new Major Street Plan Johnson Road requires
80 feet of right-of-way whereas originally it was approved for 60 feet. He asked
Mr. Van Hoose if it was possible to move the whole thing 20 feet to the east and not
get into the flood plain problem. Mr. Clinton added that they didn't want to
jeopardize setbacks. Jerre Van Hoose said the Wren Circle Street is under construction
and the utilities are in. Mr. Jacks suggested they go ahead and leave the 60 foot
right-of-way since it was approved originally and Mr. Clinton said officialaction must
be taken so as not to jeopardize setbacks, but he didn't see why the houses couldn't
face Johnson Road if they wanted to. Jerre Van Hoose said that technically they could
face Johnson Road but they will be facing the other road
Donald Nickellasked Jerre if they had developed the addition across Skull Creek and
Jerre said yes, Kelley Brothers did. Mr. Nickellasked if they had any plan to get
across Skull Creek over to this other addition and Jerre said there was no way to hook
this addition to Centerbrook and there was nothing but lots on the other side and backed
up to that creek. Roy Clinton asked them if they were going to have to maintain
Lot 41 until the City decides whether they want to take it over as green space.
Mr. Van Hoose said he was sure they will because it's their property and they will end
up owning Lot 41 and he saw it no different from any other property in town.
Mr. Jacks moved that the Planning Commission recommend to the Board of Directors that
the Final Plat of the Johnson Road Addition be approved and that a note be sent to the
Board of Directors that the Planning Commission is approving a street with less width
than that on the Major Street Plan but that it be done in this case because the
preliminary plat was approved and construction started on that basis. Mrs. Edmiston
seconded the motion which was unanimously approved. The Commission asked that the
Board of Directors be advised that this does not meet the Major Street Plan now, but it
did at the time the preliminary plat was approved.
Under other business, Ernest Jacks said he would like to talk about TANDEM LOTS
deep property. He said the present zoning law is such that every Discussion
lot must have at least 70 feet of street frontage in R-1 which
pretty well prohibits tandem lots (one behind the other). He suggested that they try to
write an amendment to the zoning ordinance which would allow a nice development of this
kind to take place and schedule a public hearing on it. He indicated that the tandem
lots should have a minimum of 25 feet street frontage usable for private drive purposes
with setbacks and lot area to be figured on the full lot width portion of the lot and
excluding the driveway portion. Morton Gitelman arrived at 4:20 P.M. Mr. Clinton said
they were saying write a provision to allow tandem lot development in the R-1 district
and asked if they should make this a conditional use in the case of tandem lot develop-
ment, and did they want it in anything other than R-1 districts. Mrs. Edmiston asked
why only R-1, why not R-2 and R-3? Chairman Clinton said that it would have to be a
conditional use no matter where it is and would always have to come to the Commission.
He added that there was no way to develop less than an acre anyway because anything under
an acre would be chewed up by right-of-way. Mrs. Childress asked if he meant that if
the lot is already there and established that size could not be split to equal 65 feet,
and Mr. Clinton said this was whathe meant. Mr. Jacks said that they were saying this
minimum street could only be a strip for a private drive. Mr. Nickell asked Mr. Jacks
how wide a private drive he felt was necessary. Mr. Jacks replied a minimum of 25 feet
and Mrs. Edmiston asked why 25 feet. This was discussed and it was felt that because
there would also need to be an easement for utilities, 25 feet would be a minimum size.
Mr. Van Hoose said most water lines are presently placed in street ROW because of
Health Department requirements.
Mr. Jacks said they were holding up some nice developments along REDUCE MINIMUM
this line. Mrs. Edmiston asked if they should have the same LOT REQUIREMENT
minimum lot requirements used. Mr. Jacks said what he is writing Discussion
would not allow any structure to be placed on anything less than
the required minimum lot width which is 70 feet in R-1. Al Hughes said he thought some-
thing should be done on lots with less lot width than 70 feet. Bobbie Jones then read
a section of the zoning ordinance that she said she wasn't sure whether they were familiar
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with and it does not correspond to what Mr. Jacks said but goes along with what some
of the others brought up. In the case of a nonconforming lot already established
before the ordinance was adopted, the Planning Office can issue a building permit for
a single family dwelling even if the lot does not conform in lot width or area
provided that they meet setbacks and that the lot was in. single ownership or not the
same ownership as the lots on either side of it on the day that the ordinance was in
effect. Albert Hughes said in 1955 a plat was approved at 60 feet and now the lot
has gained 5 more feet. He wants to build one house on it. Mr. Clinton told him
the court is your only recourse. Mr. Gitelman asked Mr. Jacks if he was talking about
T-shaped lots and Mr. Jacks said yes, T or L shaped lots. Mr. Van Hoose said
subdividers always look for lot yield and with the requirements for sidewalks and street
the cost of developing it is very expensive. Mr. Jacks said he thought there was need
for a public hearing, and he also asked if he could consider it until the next meeting
and write a proposal specifically for tandem lot division and not cul-de-sac. Mrs.
Edmiston asked about reducing the minimum lot sizes for duplexes in R-1. Chairman
Clinton said there might be a need to reduce the lot sizes but that he has always
felt and still feels that duplexes should not be in the R-1 district even on a
conditional basis. He said people associate the "1" in R-1 with single family and
thought there should be an additional zone between R-1 and apartments for duplexes.
The meeting was adjourned at 5:00 P.M.
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RESOLUTION PC 31.1-73
WHEREAS, at its regular meeting on Tuesday, October 23, 1973, the Planning
Commission voted to make a recommendation to the Board of Directors on the final
subdivision plat known as Hyland Park, Phase I submitted by Hyland Park, Inc.
and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission recommended that because the necessary
improvements have not been installed in said subdivision that Hyland Park, Inc.
enter into and furnish the City with the necessary subdivision contract before
the Board of Directors accepts this final subdivision plat.
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE
BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CITY OF FAYETTEVILLE, ARKANSAS:
SECTION 1. The necessary subdivision contract be executed with the City
prior to the Board of Directors accepting the final subdivision plat.
SECTION 2. That the City of Fayetteville, Arkansas accept the final plat
along with the land dedicated for streets and other public uses in the Hyland
Park, Phase I Subdivision described as follows:
A part of the Ei, SEk, Section 11 and part of the W4 of the SWk, Section 12,
all in T -16-N, R -30-W, Washington County, Arkansas, more particularly
described as follows:
From the NW corner of the SWy, Section 12, run S 10 41' 56" E 1082.52
feet to the point of beginning; thence S 67° 11' 41" E 180 feet; thence
S 90 00' 54" W 205.22 feet; thence 27.47 feet along a curve to the right
having a radius of 290.17 feet; with a chord bearing and distance of
N 72° 52' 17" W 27.46 feet; thence N 70° 9' 35" W 55 feet; thence 60
feet along a curve to the left having a radius of 187.26 feet; with a
chord bearing and distance of N 3° 16' 14" W 59.74 feet; thence S 2°
26' 06" E 144.99 feet; thence S 58° 25' 58" W 102.58 feet; thence S 40°
24' 09" W 172.03 feet; thence S 28° 48' 35" W 121.25 feet; thence S 67°
26' 05" W 299.95 feet; thence N 68° 34' 16" W 434.14 feet to the easterly
right-of-way of Arkansas State Highway 265; thence N 010 05' 01" E 182.49
feet along said right-of-way; thence N 06° 56' 47" E 100.07 feet along
said right-of-way;thence N 10° 43' 25" E 99.99 feet along said right-of-way
thence N 13° 17' 17" 99.93 feet along said right-of-way; thence N 19° 01'
46" E 100.00 feet along said right-of-way; thence N 22° 01' 30" E 100.02
feet;aibng-said right-of-way; thence N 24° 06' 00" E 99.98 feet along said
right-of-way; thence N 24° 26' 05" E 207.50 feet along said right-of-way;
thence N 88° 12' 57" E 921.37 feet to the point of beginning containing
22.74 acres, more or less.
PASSED AND APPROVED this 23rd day of October , 1973.
APPROVED:
ROY CLINTON, Chairman
ATTEST:
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RESOLUTION PC 31.2-73
WHEREAS, at its regular meeting on Tuesday, October 23, 1973, the
Planning Commission voted to make a recommendation to the Board of Directors
on the final subdivision plat known as Johnson Road Subdivision submitted
by Kelley Brothers Lumber and Supply, Inc. and
WHEREAS, the Planning Commission recommended that because the necessary
improvements have not been installed in said subdivision that Kelley
Brothers Lumber and Supply, Inc. enter into and furnish the City with the
necessary subdivision contract before the Board of Directors accepts this
final subdivision plat.
NOW THEREFOREY BE IT RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION TO
THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CITY OF FAYETTEVILLE, ARKANSAS:
SECTION 1. The necessary subdivision eontract be executed with the
City prior to the Board of Directors accepting the final subdivision plat.
SECTION 2. That the City of Fayetteville, Arkansas accept the final
plat along with the land dedicated for streets and other public uses in the
Johnson Road Subdivision described as follows:
Part of the NA, SE, Section 26, T -17-N, R -30-W. Beginning at the
SE corner of the NE*, SE*, of said Section 27, thence N 0° 47' W
1155.31 feet; thence S 89° 38' W 724 84 feet for a point of beginning.
Thence S 89° 38' W 835.66 feet; thence S 2° 5' E along west ROW line
of Johnson Road 1165.50 feet; thence N 89° 22' E 688.44 feet to the
SW corner of Centerbrook Subdivision (said point of being S 89° 22' W,
839.17 feet of said SE corner of the NEI, SEI); thence N 0° 49' W
50.01 feet; thence N 70° 45' E 126.49 feet; thence N 25° 45' E 100.63
feet; thence N02953&'$O398.05zfeet;.•thence7N152532! W, 373.46 feet
thence N 09° 17' W 210.54 feet to the point of beginning.
PASSEDAND APPROVED this 23rd day of October , 1973.
ATTEST:
Ernest Jacks, Secretary
APPROVED.
ROY CLINTON, Chairman