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MINUTES OF A PLANNING COMMISSION METING
Planning Commission met at 4:00 P.M., Tuesday, February
Directors Room, City Administration Building, Fayetteville,
Helen Edmiston, Morton Gitelman, Ernest Jacks, Al Hughes,
Roy Clinton, Donald Nickell
John Maguire, Dr. Walter Brown, Christine Childress.
Guy Ramsey, Erval Fraley, Thomas McNair, Larry Wood,
Harrison Davis, Edward Hancock, City Manager Donald
Grimes, Julian Watts, Scott Sherrill, Z. L. Thomas,
Walter Cox, Mrs. C. L. Thomas, Ervan Wimberly, Tom
Henson, Harold Lieberenz.
Chairman Roy Clinton called the meeting to order.
The minutes of the Feb. 6, 1973 Planning Commission meeting had been
previously mailed to the Planning Commission members. Ernest Jacks
proposed a change in the wording of paragraph four, page 4. Following
this change, the minutes were approved as corrected.
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A conditional use request had been submitted by Bruce Terminix Co., for BRUCE TERMINIX
use of property at 3263 N. College Ave. Guy Ramsey was present to repre— 3263 N.College
sent the request. Exterminators are a conditional use in this C-2 zoning Conditional
district. Mr. Ramsey also requested some relief from the Planning Use Re•uest
Commission for a sign for which he had had a permit denied, because there
is already a sign on this piece of property. Mr. Jacks said that the
Planning Commission is only looking at the conditional use request.
Harold Lieberenz told him that the sign question cannot be considered
by the Planning Commission. And they are merely considering the question
of approving the application for a certificate of occupancy. Chairman
Clinton told Mr. Ramsey that the Planning Commission would take care of
the conditional use request, then perhaps they would be able to work out
'something so that in the future, there would be a body to whom they
could appeal for a sign.
Helen Edmiston moved to authorize the conditional use request. Morton
Gitelman seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously.
Chairman Clinton said that the next 12 items on the agenda had previously
been studied and reviewed by the Subdivision Committee. He proposed to
let them relate these items to the Commission in full. He also pro—
posed that in the future, they might use the Subdivision Committee and
broaden the powers of the Planning Office for additions on tracts already
in existance. Chairman Clinton suggested that the Planning Commission
consider a resolution authorizing the Planning Office to review additions
on one acre or more and allow them to issue a permit and approval. Then
if they werenIt satisfied, that they could issue a permit, and these
additions would be taken before the Subdivision Committee for approval. -
However, if the Subdivision Committee feels that they need to come on to
the full Planning Commission, the matters would be brought to the full
Commission. He also said that it had been suggested that Plat Review
minutes go only to the Subdivision Committee, and not to the full
Commission. A petition had been filed to close a portion of a North— PETITION TO
South street or alley, 790 X 20 ft. lying along the east side of Lots CLOSE ATS.RY
1, 8, and part of Lot 9, Block 1, Broad Acres Subdivision, and located Earvel Fraley
on the South side of Cato Springs Road. This petition had been submitted
by Erval Fraley. Mr. Fraley was present. Mr. Fraley stated that he
wanted to close this street or alley, so that he could build a house on
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Feb. 27, 1973
Page 2
the property od the east side of the alley. He has apiece of property
100 ft. wide, and because of City requirements, he would have to be 45
ft. from the street or alley.
Ernest Jacks said the question here is whether this is a street or an
alley, and a matter for consideration is whether we need a street exten-
sion here. He asked Mr. Fraley if he was aware of the requested ease-
ments. Mr. Fraley said that all easements for utilities are provided
for. There had been some earlier comments from Paul Mattke and Clayton
Powell in opposition to closing the street or alley. Bobbie Jones,
Planning Administrator said that she had talked to Paul Mattke in the
hall on this recently, and he said the street as shown would involve
building a bridge. He thought it would be better to bring it down to
the creek and then follow the west side of the creek. Mr. Jacks also
noted that 3fzthe7portion of:_the street requested td be closed;is closed,
there will be some lots left down there without any street getting into
them. Mr. Fraley said that he had talked with Paul Mattke, and Mr.
Mattke had told him he could get access back into that area from the
By-pass, and from the West. Chairman Clinton commented that the Sub::
division, as drawn, is impractical. Ernest Jacks. questioned whether
action should be taken on the petitionsWithout7gettine into"cohtaot
with those other property owners.
Ernest Jacks moved to approve the closingof this North-South alley,
subject to the agreement of the property owners of Lots 18, 19; 24,
25, 26, 21, and 20. Helen Edmiston seconded the motion, which was
approved unanimously.
A petition had been filed to close an East-West alley in Block 1, PETITION TO
• West End Addition, submitted by Thomas Wiley McNair, Donnealia Kay CLOSE AITFj
McNair, Steve Cummings, Mrs. Guy Carroll, and Ark. Western Gas Co. Thomas McNair
Ernest Jacks reported that the petitioners wanted to close that
East-West alley, and use it as a private drive, as an alternative
to opening up Main Street across the north part of their property.
The Subdivision Committee saw this as bringing up a question which
the:P.lanning Commission needs to face on private drives on planned
unit developments and apartment complexes. We have always heard
that the police and fire departments will not go onto private drives.
The Planning Administrator had contacted the Police Chief and the
Fire Chief, regarding this matter. Mr. Jacks read the memo from the
Planning Administrator to the Commission. Al Hughes asked Mr. McNair
if in the closing of this publicalley, he intended to make it a
private drive and open it at both ends. Mr. McNair said he did. The
City has not been maintaining this alley, andbhe wished to extend it
all the way through, with the proper drainage and such. Mr. Jacks
reviewed a memo from Clayton Powell regarding the closing of the alley.
Thomas McNair said that he would get with Clayton Powell when he got
ready to work, and would do the work as Mr. Powell has said. Larry
Wood asked Mr. McNair if the individual lots as they exist are inten-
ded for sale, or whether the property would remain in one unit. Mr.
McNair said they would not have individual lots. Mr. Wood said he
was wondering who would open Main St. Helen Edmiston asked if the
Commission is in a position to say that the lots on the north side
of this tract could not be sold, since the lots would not have
frontage on an open street.
Helen Edmiston moved to approve the petition to close the alley.
Al Hughes seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously.
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Page 3
Ernest Jacks reviewed the proposed Large Scale Development plan of
"Duplex Village", on West Stone Street, submitted by Thomas McNair.
He called to the attention of the Commission and Mr. McNair that
Clayton Powell, Street Supt., had some comments on drainage, and
that there are additional R.O.W.'s needed. Thomas McNair said that
all the drives would have turning radius' on them.
Al Hughes moved to approve the L.S.D. plan, for Duplex Village.
Helen Edmiston seconded, which was approved unanimously.
Ernest Jacks reviewed the proposed L.S.D. plan for Scottish Inn on
North College Avenue, which had been studied by the Subdivision
Committee. He acknowledged a,note from Clayton Powell on putting
the drainage in the highway drainage system, and said that some
screening is needed on the East side. 11r. Jacks said that the
Subdivision Committee recommends approval of the plan, with the
exception that they need screening between this property and the
residential property on the East side, and the comments from
Clayton Powell on drainage. Bobbie Jones asked for clarification
on whether the "oak grove could be used as natural screening. The
Commission indicated this was acceptable. Helen Edmiston moved
to approve the L.S.D plan for Scottish Inn, with a the condition
just Cited on screening and drainage. Al Hughes seconded the
motion, which was approved unanimously.
A proposed Preliminary Plat of a replat of a part of Lot 2, Block REPLAT OF PART OF
6, and all of Lot 3, Block 7, Meadowlark Addition had been sub— MEADOWLARK ADD.
mitted by Harrison Davis and Edward Hancock. Both Mr. Davis and Preliminary Plat
Mr. Hancock were present. Ernest Jacks reported that the Subdivision
Committee had studied it, and the only real problem would be the
comments of Clayton Powell on streets and drainage. The comments
seem to involve drainage more than anything.
Harold Lieberenz reported that this subdivision was created while
it was outside the city, and that is why there are no records of
street improvements in our files. Chairman Clinton stated that
Clayton Powell's arguments were definitely valid, and could
probably be made for many streets in town elsewhere. City Manager
Donald Grimes said he thought this constituted the original sub—
division of this area, and therefore, it would come under our sub—
division requirements.
Helen Edmiston asked if perhaps David Malone needed to be consulted
on this. Chairman'Clinton said that the subdivision may be so under=_'
engineered, thatthere may not be a solution. Donald Grimes said that --
if it could be upgraded at this point, he did not think Clayton Powell
would be unreasonable. He did not think it would be fair to other
developers not to require something. Chairman Clinton questioned
whether they had the power to require it.
Edward Hancock said that he and Mr. Davis were under the impression
that they were trying to get a replat rather than a plat, because
there are 3 lots there already. Chairman Clinton asked that this
matter be referred to the City Attorney, as to whether-or;not the
persons developing would be required to bring these streets up to
reasonable standards. As far as re—engineering he said, that might
not be feasible. It was the will of the Commission that this matter
be referred to the City Attorney for an opinion.
DUPLEX VILLAGE
W. Stone St.
L.S.Development
SCOTTISH INN
N. College
L.S.Development
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Page 4
A proposed L.S.D. plan had been presented by Julian Watts for
developmentof property on S. School Avenue. Mr. Watts was
present. Ernest Jacks reported that the Subdivision Committee
had reviewed this, and there were no problems, and recommends
its approval. Mr. Jacks made the motion to approve this L.S.D
plan. Helen Edmiston seconded the motion, which was approved
unanimously.
A proposed L.S.D. plan had been presented for a "Strike and Spare"
bowling alley, on Highway 16 West, submitted by Boys, Inc.
Ernest Jacks reported that the Subdivision Committee had studied the
plan and therel.is a question on parking. Also, Clayton Powell had
some comments on drainage,about not running it into the streets and
highway, but picking it up on the property and running it into channels.
The Curb Cut Ordinance also requires a 50 ft. separation from the
intersection of a street to the curb cut. Mr. Jacks said that he
thought that the Commission should hold to the major street standards
for curb cuts. Mr. Jacks moved to approve the plan, subject to the
comments on storm drainage and subject to meeting parking requirements,
and the location of the entrance drive from the other street. Helen
Edmiston seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously.
The next 3 items on the agenda were related. They involved the closing
of the North-South alley, the closing of an East-West alley, and the
proposed L.S.D. plan for apartments. These 3 matters were discussed
in connection with each other.
The petition to close an unnamed alley between Lots 3 and 4, Evin's
Farm Plat, had been submitted by Mr. and Mrs. Zara Lee Thomas and
Union Life Insurance Corp.
The petition to close an unnamed alley between Lots 4 and 5, Evin's
Farm Plat, was submetted by Calvary Assemblies of God Church and Union
Life insurance Co.
The proposed L.S.D. plan for Century 21 Apartments to be located on
par.£-ofyLot 4, Evin's Farm Plat, which is on N. Garland Ave.., was
submittedby the Hardesty Company.
Scott:Sherrill, with the Hardesty Company, was present to represent
all three matters. Mr. Sherrill said that these are not designated
as either alleys or streets, and ownership has ali ysypassed to the
center of these alleys in the past. They propose to grant any,
necessary utility easements required. Mr. Sherrill said that Z. L.
Thomas has a residence beyond the end of the East-West alley, which
has frontage on Leverett St. They have drawn up an easement agreeing
to allow them access so long as the single family residence stays
there. He said also, that there is proposed to be a new street about
24 ft. North of their north property line.
Walter Cox, attorney, was present to represent the Thomas', who were
also present. Mr. Cox said that the Thomas' are very much concerned
about the closing of this East-West alley, without some guarantee
for the future. He said they had not seen a copy of this easement
that Mr. Sherrill had mentioned. Mr. & Mrs. Thomas said the City
has named this alley Elm Street, and had given them a house number
on Elm Street. They own approximately 15 acres and their property
does go to Leverett St. They said that if the City is thinking
JULIAN WATTS
S.School Ave.
L.S.Development
STRIKE & SPARE
(Boys, Inc.)
Highway 16 West
L.S.Development
PETITION TO
CLOSE AJJFYS
Union Life Ins. Co
CENTURY 21 APTS.
N. Garland Ave.
L.S.Development
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Feb. 27, 1973
Page 5
long-range planning, this alley or access should be according to
City specifications, and there should be adequate streets and
drainage. They said they do not want another Melmar here, and
they had built this street to serve their purposes themselves.
Chairman Clinton said that obviously the Thomas, want to retain
their right to get to Highway 112, and Mr. Sherrill wants to make
maximum use of the property he is working with. Chairman Clinton
said that he did not ,think the. Commission is prepared to close
this alley until they see if this matter can be worked out.
Helen Edmiston asked the Thomas' whether they wanted to close
the North-South alley. Mrs. Thomas said that they had been
approached by Mr. Sherrill to close it, and had agreed to do so.
At the suggestion of Chairman Clinton, Al Hughes moved to table
all 3 items to enable the Thomas' and Mr. Sherrill to work out
this problem. Donald Nickell seconded the motion. It was approved
unanimously.
A proposed L.S.D. plan for property on the West side of the By-pass
opposite Washington County Fair Grounds was presented by Westark
Real Estate and Development Co., Bill Bequette and Don Williams.
The Plat Review Committee;hadtabled this matter for more infor-
mation, and to enable them to meet with Mr. Bequette and Mr.
Williams.
Larry Wood told the Commission that in his study on the By-pass
plan, he had recommended that this particular piece of property
de zoned, and in relation to the service road, had recommended
that the service road come up Kt the existing road on the West
side of this property. The location of the service road had been
based on the residential development of this property. When Mr.
Wood saw this proposal was commercial, he said it was his thinking
that the service road should be located on the By-pass side of the
property. Chairman Clinton asked Mr. Wood whether he knew if the
Arkansas Highway Dept. was firm enough in their plans on which''
alternative to take for future Highway 71 to provide the Commission
with some information at this time. Mr. Wood said he did not think
they were.
Helen Edmiston moved to table this matter until the next meeting
to enable the Plat Review Committee to meet with the developers.
Ernest Jacks seconded the motion, which was approved unanimously.
A proposed L.S.D. plan had been presented to add a 40 X 60 ft.
addition to the South side of the E.P.C. building, Highway 71 South.
Ernest Jacks reported that there were no problems he knew of. Mr.
Lieberenz reported that the only question which had been brought up
was whether the highway had enough R.O.W. here. Bobbie Jones said
she had checked the plat book, and it had shown a minimum of 80 ft.
at this point, and this is all the M.S.P. calls for.
Chairman Clinton said this is the type of question where he felt the
Commission should give broader license to the Planning Office.
Ernest Jacks moved to approve the proposal. Al Hughes seconded the
motion, which was approved unanimously.
WESTARK REAL ESTATE
Hwy. 71 By-pass
L.S. Development
ELKHART PRODUCTS
Hwy. 71 South
L.S. Development
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A L.S.D plan for "Motel 6" on North College had been submitted by
Continental Development Company. Ervan Wimberly was present to
represent the plan.
Ernest Jacks reported that the Subdivision Committee had studied
the plan, and the only question was that there were some easements
needed by the water and sewer supt. to serve the area. Mr. Jacks
moved to approve the plan. Helen Edmiston seconded the motion,
which was approved unanimously.
City Manager Donald Grimes had written a letter to the Planning
Commission, requesting that the Planning Commission consider an
amendment to the Zoning Ordinance 1747, to declare a moratorium
on building permits for lands under rezoning consideration.
Morton Gitelman said he saw this as a question of policy, since
the rezoning request can be filed by the Planning Commission itself,
and a property owner could be caught up in this rezoning petition.
Chairman Clinton asked how the ordinance would define a request
for a rezoning study. Mr. Grimes said that it could be when a group
of citizens files or submits a request for the Commission to study
an area as was recently done along Razorback, or it could be when
a petition is actually submitted by an individual.
Donald Nickell left the meeting at 5:50 P.M.
Chairman Clinton said that someone would have to determine what is
an official rezoning request, and he asked Harold Lieberenz to
study this as to the starting point for the moratorium, and to
bring it up at the next meeting.
The Commission entered into a discussion of possible appeal procedures
for Sign Ordinance No. 1893. The Ordinance presently contains no
appeal procedure. Chairman Clinton said that he would like to have
the City Attorney draft an amendment to the Sign Ordinance, to the
effect that the Board -of Adjustment will have the right to hear
appeals from the Sign Ordinance. Morton Gitelman said that frankly,
he was reluctant to have the matter put in the hands of the Board
of Adjustment. He said there was nothing that he knew of that
would prevent the Commission from putting in a provision or hard-
ship variance on appeals to the Planning Commission. Helen Edmis-
ton asked whether it would be possible to have a Sign Committee
to screen them and determine what the Commission should see in
the way of appeals. Morton Gitelman asked the Commission to
permit him to discuss this matter with the City Attorney. Chairman
Clinton said he would like to get some procedure besides appeal
to a court of law, as the only recourse on this. He said that
the City Attorney had been instructed to write an appeal procedure
to the Ordinance before it was adopted. Ernest Jacks said that
the Commission never intended the ordinance to be passed without
an appeal procedure. Mr. Gitelman suggested making an appeal
procedure through the Board of Directors, and permit the Board of
Directors to set up a buffer committee to review them. He said
he thought Larry Wood would agree with him on his question on
whether the sign ordinance should be a part of the zoning regu-
lations. He considered it to fall within the appearance committee
MOTEL 6
N. College
L.S.development
AMEND ZONING ORD.
Moratorium on
Building Permits
SIGN ORD. 1893
Appeal Procedure
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Feb. 27, 1973
Page 7
or some other committees jurisdiction. Mr. Gitelman said he did not
feel bad about looking at sign appeals, but he really felt that would
be burdening the Planning Commission. It was the will of the
Commission to permit Mr. Gitelman to consult with the City Attorney
on this matter.
Two matters were brought up under Other Business.
Tom Henson appeared before the Planning Commission with a problem TOM HENSON
he had in having located a business in a building in town which Signs
had highway frontage, and in which there had previously been a
business. Mr. Henson wanted some relief from the Sign. Regulations.
City Manager Donald Grimes had written a letter to the Planning MEETING DATES
Commission requesting that the Planning Commission consider meet- Re•uest to Cha :e
ing on some alternate date, such as the 2nd and 4th Tuesday of each
month, so that persons having to attend both Planning Commission
and Board of Directors meetings would not have to sit through both
meetings then saipevdaytEbecause of the tlengthworictime involved :in doing so.
Chairman Clinton askedtthat?this letter be placed on the agenda
for the next Planning Commission meeting.
The meeting was adjourned at 6:10 P.M.
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RESOLUTION PC 4.5-73
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Fayetteville Planning Commission,
Tuesday, February 27, 1973, fq r.. (15) hays after a -:Acc �.
_:c .t 'rkanzas Tim -r, 1 nc9paller .:f gsr 'ni eL_i.aki,n: an=
WHEREAS, after the public hearing, the Planning Commission voted to make a
recommendation to the Board of Directors on a proposed ordinance to close a
portion of a North - South alley 790' X 20' lying along the east side of Lots
1, 8, and part of Lot 9, Block 1, Broad Acres Subdivision, and located on the
South side of Cato Springs Road. (Petition submitted by Erval Fraley.)
NOW THEREFORE, BE IT RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE
BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CITY OF FAYETTEVILLE, ARKANSAS.
SECTION 1. That the proposed ordinance, attached hereto and made a part
hereof, be adopted to close the above designated portion of an alley.
PASSED AND APPROVED this 27th day of February , 1973.
APPROVED:
ROY CLINTON, Chairman
RESOLUTION PC 4.6-73
WHEREAS, a public hearing was held by the Fayetteville Planning Commission
Tuesday, February 27, 1973,
WHEREAS, after the public hearing, the Planning Commission voted to make
a recommendation to the Board of Directors on a proposed ordinance to close
an East - West alley in Block 1, West End Addition, submitted by Thomas Wiley
McNair, Donnealia Kay McNair, Steve Cummings, Mrs. Guy Carroll, and Arkansas
Western Gas Company;
NOW, THEREFORE, BE IT RECOMMENDED BY THE CITY PLANNING COMMISSION TO THE
BOARD OF DIRECTORS OF THE CITY OF FAYETTEVILLE, ARKANSAS.
SECTION 1. That the proposed ordinance, attached hereto and made a part
hereof, be adopted to close the above-mentioned alley.
PASSED AND APPROVED this 27th day of February , 1973.
APPROVED
ROY CLINTON, Chairman