HomeMy WebLinkAbout1997-11-03 - MinutesFAYETTEVILLE
THE CITY OF FAYETTEVILLE, ARKANSAS
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DEPARTMENTAL CORRESPONDENCE
TO: PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
FROM: Dale D. Clark, Parks & Recreation Director
DATE: October 21, 1997
SUBJECT: PRAB MEETING ON MONDAY, November 3, 1997, AT 5:30 PM
IN ROOM 219 OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING
I. Approval of PRAB Minutes - October 6, 1997 Meeting
II. Annual Report from Babe Ruth Baseball - Mark Taylor
III. Annual Report from Bambino Baseball - Dennis Kelly
IV. BMX proposal - Marvin Light
V. Harmon Track (behind Fayetteville High School) request for
funds proposal - Dick Johnson
VI. N.R.P.A. (National Recreation & Parks Association)Salt Lake
City, Utah meeting report - Dugwyler
VII. Announcement of park restroom winterization - Clark
VIII. Walker Park parking lot design update - Dugwyler
IX. Washington School lease update - Clark
X. Lake Fayetteville Trail Public Workshop Report from
October 7th - Dugwyler & October 28th - Clark
XI. Arkansas Recreational Trails Fund Program, Administration
Workshop report, October 29,1997 Little Rock trip - Rogers
XII. Arkansas Recreational Trails Fund Program Notification of
• Receiving Grant Monies - Clark
Parks and Recreation Advisory Board
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XIII. Proposal on increasing the Green Space money in lieu formula
update from the October 21 City Council Meeting - Dugwyler
XIV. Girls Softball Complex Phase II update (bid status)- Clark
XV. 1998 C.I.P budget update - Clark
XVI. Parks' Project Status Report - Clark
XVII. OTHER BUSINESS
ATTACHMENTS:
• Green Space Report
• HMR Report
• Response letter to City Administration on green space fees
• List of Park land provided through the green space ordinance
• Copy of the population growth chart from the Morning News
• Copy of a Editorial from the NWArkansas Times
• Copy of the letter from City Administration
anwering/questioning our request to update the green space
fee formula
• Lake Fayetteville Public Meeting of October 7, 1997 synopsis
by Nancy Dugwyler
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PRAB
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 3, 1997
The meeting was called to order by James at 5:30 p.m. in Room 219 of the City Administration
Building.
Members Present: Bleidt, James, Judy, King, Staggs, Thiel, Waite
Members Absent: Ackerman
Staff Present: Clark, Dugwyler, Nelson, Rogers
Guests Present: Ronnie Hankins, Jerry Bell, Ben Thompson, Paul Davis, Mark Taylor —
Fayetteville Babe Ruth Baseball; Dennis Kelly — Fayetteville Youth Baseball
League; Steven Faust, Marvin Light, Charles Ball, Stacey Light — BMX Track
proposal; Dick Johnson — Fayetteville High School; Peggy Smith — Fayetteville
Chamber of Commerce/Fayetteville Jaycees; Heather Daniel — City Council
Media Present: Rusty Garrett, Northwest Arkansas Times
BUSINESS:
I. MOTION: THIEL/BLEIDT
The Minutes from the October 6, 1997, PRAB regular meeting were approved unanimously
7-0.
11. Annual Report from Babe Ruth Baseball — Mark Taylor
Taylor: As you can see from the handout distributed, based on the income [$31,146.66] and
expense [$36,844.73] report, we are currently operating at a loss [of $5,698.07]. We inherited
from last year approximately $5,000 with which we started the year We made some capital
improvements in an attempt to improve the facilities and make it safer for the kids to play. We
are pushing to improve the Babe Ruth facility; we can only do that with help from the Parks
& Recreation Advisory Board and the business community. We have been to (and played in)
parks in Mountain Home, Harrison, Bentonville, Rogers, Springdale, Pea Ridge, and Lincoln.
Quite frankly, our park does not stack up. We feel like Fayetteville is probably one of the top
fifty cities in the United States in which to live, and our baseball facilities are in the bottom
fifty. We are trying to make some improvements to gain on that. For instance, last year we had
approximately 175 kids participating in our program. That means 175 mothers, there is one
toilet in the women's restroom. We are trying to do something about the problem(s) now. I
have outlined a three year plan of what we would like to see happen to bring the facility up
to par. If there is anything you can do to help us, we do appreciate it. We are hosting the 1998
State fourteen -year-old baseball toumament which will bring seven teams into town which will
be spending a week's time and a lot of dollars in Fayetteville. If we do a good job with that
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[tournament], we move on to the regionals and possibly even the World Series [which
Springdale has hosted the past several years]. If Fayetteville had the [proper] facilities, I think
more people would rather come [to Fayetteville] as opposed to Springdale
Rogers: On the 1999 improvements the complete fencing and dugout renovation on both
fields total $95,000 — how do you come to that figure? Is that just for the fencing?
Taylor: That is just a guess I talked to Bob [Braswell] on what it would cost to replace the
backstops on fields one and two, and he was giving me numbers from $30,000 to $35,000
for just the backstops alone. That is not a solid bid price.
Rogers. It can be lower than that.
Clark: But it would depend on how you write the specifications and what is required for
baseball. I believe the costs are greater for baseball than what we see on our softball fields.
James: Some of this would be in-house work if the City purchased the materials?
Taylor: Yes. We would supply a lot of the labor. We can utilize community service workers
most weekends to a certain degree.
Waite: Are you changing the orientation or size of either of the fields?
Taylor: No, not to any major degree. We have a batting cage which was built behind field
number one. When it was built, there was not sufficient room left between the fences in which
to mow. I would like to move the fence in a few feet for this reason. Field number two has no
protection from wind and there is no shade; if we moved the fence a little on field number one
we could turn a comer on field number two and plant something to provide shade.
Waite: The last renovation at this facility was about twenty years ago. If we are going to sink
this amount of money into the facility- if there is any change in orientation, increase in the
fence line, or other things to be done- this is the time to do it. Once this amount of money is
spent by whomever, we need to make sure the changes are acceptable for a long period of
time.
Taylor: Unless there is some regulation change, everything we currently have in regards to
distances is within the regulations of a playing field for this age group.
James: We are still holding the space on Highway 265 for Babe Ruth baseball. At one point
the program was growing each year.
Taylor: I don't see that in the next ten to twelve years. We have two fields, and with the
number of games we could play, we could probably hold three times the number we currently
have and play on two fields.
Clark: Are you growing in any particular age group or are the numbers staying fairly
consistent?
Taylor: They are fairly consistent. From year to year the numbers may change a percentage
or two.
Rogers: How are you expecting to achieve the goal of doubling the number of participants?
Taylor: We feel like we must improve the facility. Parents have a tendency to steer their
children towards what they want them to do. Unless they are going to a nice environment,
they may not do that.
The improvements guideline was accepted for consideration for the budgeting
process. Mr. Taylor may be called upon at a later date to provide a priority list.
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I11. Annual Report from Bambino Baseball — Dennis Kelly
Kelly: I am Dennis Kelly with the Fayetteville Youth Baseball (six to twelve -year-olds). I
would like to thank the City of Fayetteville and the Parks & Recreation Advisory Board for
supporting these kids. We may not have a complex like Springdale, but we do have a great
group of kids and parents We have a solid program and a lot of support from a lot of parents
and Board members. I ast year we had 916 kids in the program which was down by 16 from
the previous year. We had 74 teams represented. That is a lot of coaches and a lot of
volunteer labor. We did take a little bit of a poll to help determine why our numbers dropped
this year, and it seems most of the kids that did not return were participating in soccer at the
time. Baseball and soccer overlap; we would like to move our season farther out to correct this
problem, but we are affiliated with Babe Ruth. Their toumaments are pretty much set in stone,
so we have to back our schedule up to accommodate those tournaments at the end of the
year. We had a relatively successful season this year. We were re -districted this year, and there
were three positions out of our district that could have had teams in the State All Stars
tournament. We filled two of the three spots. There is some potential right now. We have
requested the ability to host a state tournament in the near future. There is a possibility as
early as this year of doing that. If we do we have to do some extra work to make the fields
ready to host a state tournament. We raised our fees this year from $35 to $45 per child;
children unable to meet that fee are given scholarships. We did discontinue our promotional
candy sale which we had done in the past. We did not see any negative drawbacks from this.
We were hesitant to put any money into the park this year because we were scared of the fact
that we might end up in the red; after closing the books on the year, we had gained roughly
$5,000. We are looking forward to a few improvements in the near future. We would like to
have a first class facility, but we are going to look at the changes realistically. Our growth has
not come up to the potential of what we thought it would be. The fields we currently have are
certainly suitable for what we have at this time. We had originally projected looking at another
field around the year 2000. Unless this year and next changes drastically, we probably will not
need that field that early. We do need more bleachers, particularly on the new field, and an
adequate press box will be required by the state for state tournaments. We would like to see
improvements made on field number six in the way of cleaning up the old bleachers and
putting down concrete pads. The most concern with the facility has been parking. It is needed.
We have policed the coaches very well, and I think we have a very positive program. We
provide adequate insurance for everyone involved.
Dugwyler: How much are sponsors?
Kelly: $250 to sponsor a team. I think outfield signs are initially $300; Gary Atha, Treasurer,
would be able to tell you for certain.
Clark: Parking problems definitely exist. They are drastic at certain times in the evening
[between games]. Parking is available to the north, but it is a quarter of a mile to walk.
Recently, SWEPCO put lighting along Block St. which helps lighting the street from the north
parking lot. Currently Wittenberg, Delony & Davidson, Inc. is working on a design for a
parking lot across the street in the wooded area. Beth Sandeen, Landscape Administrator, and
our horticulturist are looking at the area because there are a lot of trees there. I don't know if
it's feasible, but at certain times perhaps traffic should be directed in one direction to alleviate
some of the problems. When you turn your kid loose, who is excited about a ball game, it is
dangerous.
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The possibility of designating one way traffic was discussed to help alleviate some
problems and safety concerns. Kelly also asked for help in preparing ballfields on
a daily basis during season play. The PRAB will consider the request.
IV. BMX proposal - Steven Faust & Marvin Light
Faust: My name is Steven Faust. Marvin Light and myself have been involved in cycling for
several years. I have a son who is six years old, and he has a limited area in which he can go
cycling. He has raced in many races as a child, and a lot of the races held here in the
Fayetteville area have a good tum out. We are interested in starting a BMX (Bicycle
Motocross) track in the Fayetteville area. That track, hopefully, would be an attraction for a
lot of local kids. Just about every kid has a bicycle, but riding on the street is not always the
safest thing to do. This would provide an opportunity for them to get off of the streets and get
on a track and promote interest in cycling.
A brief videotape was shown illustrating the sport of Bicycle Motocross (BMX).
Statistics indicate persons are more likely to be injured in any other sport.
Currently there are tracks in Springfield, Missouri, Little Rock, Arkansas, Tulsa,
Oklahoma (with a second track under construction), Neosho and Carthage,
Missouri. A local track could draw from these areas. The governing body for BMX
racing, the American Bicycle Association (ABA), would construct the track for
free contingent on a land dedication for a period of five years. Tracks range in
length from 800 to 1500 feet long and could be constructed in an area of
approximately 100 by 80 yards for the track itself, fenced, and with adequate
parking. Utilities would also be needed. Donations of time and money would be
sought from local businesses. The request was for land only; donations would
be sought for fencing around the track. Seasons are generally from January to
November. The track would be supervised (primarily for track condition) while it
was open and in operation. Insurance is provided at cost through ABA for $35 per
year for each participant
Light suggested the north end of Walker Park; PIMB members felt Walker was
already hill. PRAB members expressed interest in the proposed facility and
suggested staff look at land which might be available and get back with the group
by the first of the year.
V. Harmon Track (behind Fayetteville High School) request for funds proposal - Dick Johnson
Fayetteville High School Athletic Director, Dick Johnson, presented to the PRAB
a packet of information regarding the modernization of the Harmon Field trail.
Pictures of a seven lane track and a sample of asphalt -latex coating surface were
distributed; the latex coating would cost $55,000. The school system would
reconfigure the track to 400 meters and would provide the hard surfacing of the
track (as part of the parking lot project). The track would remain seven lanes
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which would exclude it from hosting state track meets. The track would be open
to the public, and the school system would maintain the facility. James said the
proposal would have to be considered for 1999 because the deadline had passed
for 1998 projects.
VI. N.R.P.A. (National Recreation & Parks Association) Salt Lake City, Utah meeting report -
Dugwyler
Dugwyler reported on attending the N.R.P.A. meeting in Salt Lake City, Utah.
Some of the sessions attended included Master Plans for Parks and Trails, Parks
and Recreation Agency Accreditation, Innovative Funding: Exclusive Beverage
Contracts, New ADA Guidelines for Play Facilities, This Old Pool, and Be A
Changemaster - Survival for the Future. Dugwyler suggested to the PRAB to
update the existing ten year master plan adopted in 1994 to reflect the enormous
changes which have occurred and, as part of our strategic plan, to have as a goal
the accreditation of the Fayetteville Parks and Recreation Division. Newer
playgrounds such as at Wilson Park, Davis Park, Gordon Long Park, and the
Happy Hollow School Park are in good shape to meet ADA guidelines; however,
we have over twenty playgrounds which do not meet standards. It will be
expensive to comply with new standards, but we will continue to progress.
Dugwyler also reported on splash pools as an alternative to expensive outdoor
pools.
VII. Announcement of park restroom winterization - Clark
Clark announced that cost estimates have been received on retrofitting the
restrooms at Wilson Park and Gulley Park to keep them open during the winter.
Plumbers have been asked to see what they can do about putting timers on the
toilets to automatically flush. These jobs are small and difficult to bid, but we are
(struggling) continuing.
VIII. Walker Park parking lot design update - Dugwyler
Wittenberg, Delony & Davidson, Inc. have received needed information from Beth
Sandeen, Landscape Administrator; they have also talked to Chuck Rutherford,
Sidewalk and Trails Administrator. They will be meeting with Lisa Paschal,
Landscape Maintenance Specialist, as well. The minimum standard for a
development of this nature is a four foot sidewalk with six foot greenspace
between the sidewalk and the road; 60 inches is favored by ADA. Designs are
currently in progress and will be presented to the PRAB soon.
IX. Washington School Lease update - Clark
The legal description has been received from the school system. A memo to the
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Public Works Director has been prepared as to our next step. Clark suggests a
lease of one year to put it on the same cycle as the other school parks (their
leases expire next year). This item is current/y in progress.
X. Lake Fayetteville Trail Public Workshop Report from Tuesday, October 7th & 28th -
Dugwyler/Clark
Keith Franklin of LandPlan presented several examples of trails, surfaces, and
different applications of trails during a public meeting on October Z The second
meeting was held on October 28. Issues regarding multi -use and running trails
were raised during the second meeting and questions of surface.
King: Public input is public input. I had to keep reminding myself this is input, and this is
good. 1 personally had the idea of a multi -use, all weather surface. An asphalt surface through
the woods does not detract. People drive to Vermont to drive through the woods, and that is
an asphalt surface through the woods; they drive miles to go there. I've had runners call me.
Wade Colwell called me. Wade is not disagreeable; he is expressing his opinion because he
has a vested interest due to the time and effort he and the boy scouts have put into it [the
trail]. I've had other runners call me and tell me that whatever is put out there will be used.
The people who were griping about it will use it. I see viable alternatives to make people
happy. 1 would hate to see the entire plan shelved because of conflicting interests. We have
many options. If we come to a decision we can live with, budget wise and for the entire
community, we need to look at what is best for 100% of the population.
Options were discussed in regards to the type of trail and the concerns of various
individuals including the Botanical Garden Society of the Ozarks. Bleidt felt the
PRAB should meet with BGSO representatives and Environmental Study Center
representatives to decide on trail location. A major concern of BGSO is security
issues regarding their facilities of an open trail. Clark stated that the focus of the
Parks Division should be on a multi -use trail. There are many other projects which
can be focused on if conflicts cannot be resolved; however, there is merit in
continuing to study the trail. The consensus of the Board was to continue moving
forward with the trail project and members were looking forward to the
recommendation from LandPlan. Waite commented on the trails at Gulley Park
and Wilson Park; there was no great clamor for them, but they have been
extremely popular and highly used.
XI. Arkansas Recreational Trails Fund Program, Administration Workshop report, October 29,
1997 Little Rock trip - Rogers
Rogers: On October 28, I attended the Arkansas Recreational Trails Funding Program grant
workshop in Little Rock with our internal auditor, Yolanda Fields. The workshop was
sponsored by the Arkansas State Highway and Transportation Department and directed by
Steve Weston. The workshop provided vital information and requirements for the grant funds.
Several issues were discussed including environmental clearances, state historic preservation
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requirements, contract agreement, on-site visits, and reimbursement procedures. We also went
over plans and construction specifications as well as the issue of accessibility. The workshop
overall was very helpful.
XII. Received official notification of receiving $20,000 grant funding from Arkansas Recreational
Trails Fund Program - Clark
Clark announced that last year a concept plan of Lake Fayetteville was submitted.
A $20,000 grant has been received, and all trails must be accessible.
XIII. Proposal on increasing the Green Space money in lieu formula update from the October 21
City Council Meeting - Dugwyler
Dugwyler: This issue went before City Council on October 21 and received a very favorable
response. One City Council member suggested that our $15,000 formula was not enough and
proposed an amendment which would increase it to $20,000. They did make an amendment
to our agenda request to review this ordinance every two years and make recommendations.
It was left on the first reading and will be on the City Council agenda tomorrow (November
4) night.
XIV. Girls Softball Complex Phase II update (bid status) - Clark
Clark: Advertisement for bids went out October 23 and October 30. The bid opening date
is November 12 at 2:00 p.m. in Room 326 of the City Administration Building. We have a lot
of deductive alternates to see if we can't keep it within our budget. We've also asked that the
soccer complex go on to Large Scale Development. As you know, the Mt. Comfort Road
improvements and sidewalk issues will come up there. We are sure they will recommend that
that be corrected, we are going to ask that those projects be included in the street capital
improvement projects and given high priority.
XV. 1998 C.I.P. budget update - Clark
Clark announced that City Council has approved the submitted C.I.P. budget for
1998.
XVI. Parks' Project Status Report - Clark
Clark reported that Nelson has been working on an ongoing project which records
the daily work summaries of Parks Maintenance personnel. Nelson will be
presenting a report to the PRAB next month.
XVII. OTHER BUSINESS
Staggs inquired if there had been any response from Tommy Haseloff of Hog
Heaven regarding the PRAB's decision regarding the netting at Lake Fayetteville;
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Clark has not received a response on this issue.
Daniel: 1 am Heather Daniel from the City Council, but I am here as a free agent. As you
know there is an ordinance pending before the Council dealing with skateboarders and inline
skaters. Personally, I do not believe this ordinance will pass. This group wants respectful
consideration like we give other groups such as bicyclists, joggers, and pedestrians. 1 would
like the PRAB to think about sometime in the future providing a place for skateboarders to
practice their art. 1 realize this is not entirely satisfactory. Many of the skateboarders want to
be downtown; they want to be on Dickson Street. Safety is the main factor regarding this
group. I would appreciate you considering this in your future plans.
James: Do you know what these people are looking for in a place to skate regarding area or
terrain?
Daniel: No, I just know that 1 have seen ramps and such. We're not going to be able to meet
all their needs, but 1 think we could provide something safe for them.
Waite said skateboarders and skaters tended to go for transportation trails which
was out of the PRAB's league. A skating park would be reasonable and certainly
could be planned if there was an interest, and it would have to be centrally
located. Waite suggested representatives for skateboarding present their ideas for
consideration. Dugwyler has researched this issue and said skateboard parks are
very popular across the country.
Meeting adjourned at 7:52 p.m.
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