HomeMy WebLinkAbout1995-12-04 - MinutesTO: PARKS AND RECREATION ADVISORY BOARD
FROM: DALE D. CLARK, PARKS AND RECREATION DIRECTOR
DATE: NOVEMBER 29,1995
SUBJECT: PRAB MEETING ON MONDAY DECEMBER 4, 1995,
REFRESHMENTS AT 5:OOPM, MEETING AT 5:30PM IN ROOM 326
OF THE CITY ADMINISTRATION BUILDING
Approval of PRAB minutes - November 6, 1995
II. Green Space - Coody
Owner/Developer: Dan Coody/ Jorgensen
Location: On Mt Sequoyah at the end of Rogers Drive
Park District:
Units: 10 Single Family
Acreage: 7 51 acres
Land Dedication: .25 acre
Money in Lieu: $3,000
Master Plan: Priority -None, Neighborhood 4, Existing acres - 7, 1990
needs - 22.5-45, 2010 needs - 25-50 acres.
Staff Recommendation:
III. Old Business
- Veterans Park Naming - action to approve or disapprove naming Hwy 265 East
property Veterans Park
- HMR Campaign Final Report - Driver/Waite
IV. Facilities Committee Report - Johnny James
Recommended priorities for HMR tax expenditures
1995 Adult Softball and Concession Report - Mike Heath
1995 Swimming Pool Report - Mike Heath
VI. Other Business
Informational: The Habitat For Humanity request for release of a portion of Lewis Street
lease with U of A has been deleted.
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PRAB
REGULAR MEETING
DECEMBER 4, 1995
The meeting was called to order by Susan Driver at 5:30 pm in
room 326 of the City Administration Building.
Members Present: Driver, James, Mackey, Richard, Stone, Savage,
Waite
Members Absent: Knight
Staff Present: Clark, Cox, Dugwyler
Media Present: Rusty Garrett
I. MOTION:WAITE/JAMES
The minutes from the November 6, 1995 PRAB meeting were
approved unanimously 7-0
I I . GREEN SPACE S,_ „r,W+sti
Dan Coody Property �G�'r
Owner/Developer: Dan Coody
Location: On Mt. Sequoyah, end of Rogers Dr.
Park District: SE
Units: 10 Single Family
Acreage: 7.51 acres
Land Dedication: .25 acres
Money in Lieu: $3,000
Master Plan: Priority: None; neighborhood 4; 7 existing
acres, 1990 needs 22.5 to 45 acres,; 2010 needs 25 to 50
acres
A representative from Jorgenson and Associates was
present to answer questions. The developer would prefer
to pay money in lieu of a land dedication. This is a PUD
development which requires the developer to provide 30
percent of the property for green space for the
residents.
MOTION:JAMES/WAITE
The PRAB recommends to the Planning Commission to accept
money, $3,000, in lieu of a land dedication for the green
space requirement for the Dan Coody PUD development.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
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III. OLD BUSINESS:
Naming of Veteran's Park
Driver: This report is from George Knight so we will pass
this item since he is not present.
HMR Report
Waite* Even though turnout was low, the win was about 60
to 40 percent. People will be watching us closely now.
So we need to make improvements people will notice. This
tax might not last forever.
Driver: This was not a controversial issue, but it would
probably still have been the same percentage of win. I
am meeting with Betty Turner tomorrow and Jerry Rose
later in the week to discuss funding for Adult Center.
IV. Facilities Committee Report
James:We met on November 29 at FYC. Nancy passed out a
list of nine priorities. We asked that the wording be
modified and be put into a spreadsheet operation for the
next five years. Staff will go to the existing parks and
see what needs to be done. We will incorporate that into
these new projects. The current staff will have to
increase also. There will be a percentage of HMR for the
staff salaries which will be approximately five
positions. One athletic supervisor will be funded by
city when the budget is approved. We will meet again in
February.
Clark: The engineering selection process will be next
week. The committee consists of three city staff and one
council member.
Driver: The board members feet that the staff has done
an excellent job prioritizing the first nine projects for
HMR. We just needed the breakdown to figure a percentage
for maintenance salaries.
Adult Softball and Swimming Pool
Heath: 1995 softball consisted of 173 teams and 2400
players. The average cost for each team was $354 and $25
for each team member. The operating expenses for
umpires, scorekeepers was $46,182, miscellaneous was
$10,449. Concession revenues were $30,300, expenses
$22,380. The revenues were up $7,900 from last year. We
feel we were really successful and accomplished our
goals. We are going to appoint new board members for
the softball board. These members cannot be paid by
Softball Association. We want more representation from
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the leagues for better feedback. Next year we need new
base sets, topsoil, and new softballs.
Mackey: What is the average # players per team?
Heath: 13.5
Mackey: Did we collect $25 per player?
Heath: No, we collect $450 per team, and we are looking
at $480 next year. Typically 95 percent of the teams
have sponsors. The other five percent raises their fees
or pays out of their pockets.
Clark: Mike did a survey of all teams.
Mike: According to the survey, the teams wanted to
sanction. In the summer definitely sanction, in the fall
did not want to sanction. I got insurance in fall anyway
for umps and scorekeepers.
James: was it only way or another on who to sanction
with?
Heath: Over 90 percent wants USSSA.
Savage: I thought they double sanctioned
Mike: Some did on their own, we just sanctioned USSSA.
I will survey again next year. It is only $20 per team
to sanction.
Waite: Any concerns you have heard on fields?
Mike: We still need 300 foot fences for upper division.
James: Are there scheduling conflicts?
Heath: Mostly personal preferences. I would like to go
down to 80 teams in the fall. This year it was 90 which
is a lot.
Mackey: How many young girl's teams were there?
Clark: 34
Heath: Our three major objectives for the Wilson Park
pool this year were to be: Professional, safe, and have
a family atmosphere. We accomplished these goals. Our
staff was very professional. They had uniforms, used red
cross rules, had three lifeguards and two rovers at all
time with rescue tubes. We did have a problem with youth
hanging around and people passing memberships. Park
patrol and police were called when needed. See pool
report for revenues and expenses. The attendance was
32,000 and open for 100 days.
Waite: We had sent in a request to raise prices before.
Are you going to try again?
Clark: One of these reasons for increases was the new
requirements for lifeguards. We have to have one present
for swim team, lessons, and aerobics. We also kept the
pool open after school started. Private parties cost
more this year. Swimming lessons are very popular and in
demand. They are only $15 for two weeks. If you are
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going to supplement the pool then at least teach lessons.
They used to bus kids from Elkins and other areas. I
would like to see that again. Usually an individual
promoted it, Red Cross, or etc.
Mackey: You only have one option swim. If there were a
water slide or something maybe it would be better. I
think we are doing a pretty good job with what we have
got.
Driver: I would almost rather have a small neighborhood
place where it is free, and provide air conditioning,
recreation, etc. Although I do enjoy Siloam's facility.
Other Business:
Clark: I attended a Parks school in New Mexico. A lot of
Parks and Recreation Departments are outsourcing,
privatizing pools, golf courses, leagues, boys baseball,
development and manager of facilities. The theme of
almost all 300 people there was that any tax support is
almost nil. A Parks Director from Oakland said everyone
is downsizing, particularly in urban recreation and inner
cities where they need it the most. They are giving more
to YMCAs, boys clubs, and family service agencies.
Parks officials say ADA has made a bid difference.
Driver: If privatized would it have to be ADA
accessible?
Clark: The city does and privates will have too also.
Driver: How do they make money on pools?
Clark: By adding slides, charge more for longer times,
turn more people over. Use up your rides, etc.
Driver: How long till Siloam breaks even?
Dugwyler: Probably a couple of years. They are charging
low rates. If they charged a little higher would have
broken even in a year.
Clark: The Rails to Trails theme was very popular with
the parks officials. They talked like funding would be
good.
Driver: The annual report for the City Council needs to
be pulled together on accomplishments, CIP spent, what is
left to carry over to 1996 on CIP's. The January agenda
needs to have update on green space collections and if
the new procedure seem to be more efficient and where we
stand to date on money and their collections. Also we
need to have a report on engineering selection.
The meeting adjourned at 6:15.
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