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PRAB
REGULAR MEETING
NOVEMBER 7, 1994
Kimbrough, James, Wright, Waite, Driver,
Knight, Savage
Mackey
Clark, Cox, Dugwyler
Betty Turner, Norm Koehring
Ron Wood, Rusty Garrett
Driver: Nancy Dugwyler is the new Assistant Parks Director, and
the newly appointed PRAB member is George Knight.
I MOTION:WRIGHT/JAMES
The minutes from the October 3, 1994 meeting were
approved unanimously 7-0.
II. Donation of Gregg St Property by Benno Friedman
Wright: Alett Little said this property connects to the
current bike trail. I think it would be good to take
this land.
Driver: If we took this land, it might be a good place
for picnic tables along the trail. It would probably not
be good for anything else.
Wright: I could see a civic club putting in a bridge
across that creek.
James: Seems like that might be a nice little oasis for
the people there.
Driver: If we table this until we know more about the
trail would this offer be available in the future?
Clark: He did not give us a deadline. I am sure we
could send him a letter telling him we are still
considering it.
Alett: One application is for the Gregg Street bicycle
path.
Kimbrough: It seems like we could wait for the
application of the trails and are there other lands here
to be obtained. I am sure the uses are very limited for
this land.
Clark: As far as a park, it does nothing for the parks
system. As far as a trail, it might help. We should
table it until we know more on the trails. For this size
parcel you will spend a lot of money on land that is not
in a needed area.
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MOTION:WAITE/KIMBROUGH
The PRAB recommends to table the trail property until it
is know if a trail will go in there with stipulation.
The owner needs to be contacted we are still interested.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
Senior Center
Clark: Betty Turner's salary has come through the parks
budget for many years.
Turner: We started this program several years ago. Sang
Center is no longer adequate for the seniors that we
serve and hope to serve. Mrs. Walker donated a portion
of land for a recreational facility for seniors. Dale
traded for this spot with the soccer fields. This has
accessible walking trails for seniors. This is the
Archibald Yell site historical site. He was the second
governor and first congressman for Arkansas, and he
played a major part in the development of Fayetteville.
Community Development funds were $350,000. The architect
took $25,000 of this. We need matching funds. The 1995
funds can be extended.
Kimbrough: What percent do you receive from United Way?
Turner: We have Council on Aging and the elderly
nutrition program which serves 500 meals cooked in
Fayetteville and transported. Sang would remain the main
kitchen.
Waite: What is the estimated cost?
Koehring: 1.4 million
Driver: What can we do to help you?
Turner: I don't know right now. We need you to be
supportive. This is the only senior center like this
anywhere. It is not like an institution; it is warm and
cozy.
Clark: They have taken over the adult day care
facilities. At the Wood avenue site, they are equipped
for 25 people. At the Springdale site, they are equipped
for 26 people.
Kimbrough: You need to keep in mind this is recreation.
It is better the more we can tie this in with parks and
recreation.
Driver: Would this be a legal use of Green Space fees?
Clark: I believe so.
Turner: I see the wooded area with trails and a park
being used as much as Gulley Park.
IV. Green Space
Hidden Lake Formerly Jackson Heights
Owner/Developer: Harry Jackson and Partners
Location: N of Mission, E. of Old Wire Road
Park District: NE
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Units: 44 Single Family
Land Dedication: 1.1 acres
Money in lieu: $13,200
Master Plan: No Priority, neighborhood 3, 26 existing
acres; 1990 needs 21 to 42 acres, 2010 needs 25 to 50
acres
MOTION:WRIGHT/WAITE
The PRAB recommends to the Planning Commission to accept
a land dedication in lieu of money contribution for the
green space requirement for Hidden Lake.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
DISCUSSION:
Mark Marquess: This was a controversial subdivision the
first time it came through. We took over and realized it
had a nice natural fed pond on it. It is really nice.
There are large pleasing trees. We decided it was better
to replat it. Originally there were 60 or so lots, but
we platted 44 lots. Done properly, this could be a nice
park for Root School. Mel said originally you were
interested in a walking trail. We would like to dedicate
the pond and the greenway. I think with the right of way
through the creek bed it will be 3 to 5 acres. We will we
put pavilions in. We would like to keep it a subdivision
park but in all reality it will be used by more. We
would like to deed it over to the city.
Kimbrough: I remember a problem with the lot line of the
people that live there.
Marquess: We changed a lot.
Driver: Did the reduction in the lots reduce the
drainage problem.
Marquess: Yes about one-third. We talked to Don Bunn
and Alett Little and we agreed there is not that much of
an impact now.
Driver: What are the liabilities of the pond being here?
Marquess: I don't know about City liabilities. You have
parks with waterways now. Lake Fayetteville is a huge
waterway.
Savage: Does this road run right by the pond.
Marquess: This is just the preliminary. We will
straighten that road out.
Kimbrough: There was land with money on the first
subdivision that came through.
Marquess: Yes but there was not a pond then. This is
not a significant area for play equipment but is great
for walking and open space.
Clark: Is there some provision that the neighbors will
know this is public land so they won't get excited about
the drainage?
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Marquess: This will be in the covenants.
Kimbrough: What is staff recommendation?
Clark: I think it has good merit. I don't want to build
parking to encourage others to come even though others
will come.
Kimbrough: One of the high points is that children will
be able to make it almost to Root on sidewalk. Is this
still so?
Clark: The problem is no access at Ramsey.
Marquess: This will match up to Mission and should have
a crosswalk.
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Yorktowne Square
Owner/Developer: Wade/Peggy Bishop & Susan Bishop Hansen
Location: N of Summerhill, W of Old Missouri
Park District: NE
Units: 61 single family
Land Dedication: 1.53 acres
Money in lieu: $18,300
Master Plan: No priority, neighborhood 1, 72 existing
park acres; 1990 needs 22 to 44 acres, 2010 needs 34 to
68 acres
MOTION:WAITE/WRIGHT
The PRAB recommends to the Planning Commission to accept
money, $18,300, in lieu of a land dedication for the
green space requirement for Yorktowne Square.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
Southridge Development
Owner/Developer: Kenneth McClinton & Bob Schmitt
Location: Intersection Garland & Stadium
Park District: SW
Units: 18 multi family
Land Dedication: .36 acres
Money in lieu: $4,320
Master Plan: No priority, Neighborhood 10,
existing park acres; 1990 needs 54.5 to 109
22010 needs 57 to 114 acres.
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MOTION:WAITE/JAMES
The PRAB recommends to the Planning Commission to accept
money, $4,320, in lieu of a land dedication for the green
space requirement for Southridge Development.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
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• V. Sale of Lake Fayetteville Property.
MOTION:WAITE/KNIGHT
The PRAB recommends to table this item until this man is
present for further questions.
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VI.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
Davis Park
Driver: Why is the handicap accessible equipment so much
more expensive?
Dugwyler: This is like a fire ring with a grill.
Driver: What is the life on the tables?
Dugwyler: The steel will last 15 to 20 years, and the
redwood can be replaced.
Driver: Do you have local welders who bid on equipment
like this?
Clark: No, we do some of the trash holders in house.
Waite: We seem to be getting too much into
microbudgeting. When you start doing things in house with
labor charges it gets expensive.
Kimbrough: What kind of equipment is it for this money?
Dugwyler: I look at quality first, then gauge of steel,
wood, and what maintenance is required. We look at top
quality. You get what you pay for.
MOTION:WAITE/KNIGHT
The PRAB approved expenditures from the northwest park
district green space account for picnic equipment for
Davis Park up to $10,120.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 7-0
VII. Green Space Report
Dugwyler: I have learned an enormous amount. I will
have proposals at the next meeting for information sheet.
Right now I have an answer to the question from the Adhoc
meeting. I looked at the problem of comparing the number
of building permits issued to the green space money
received. Part of the reason these figures don't equal
is that they do not take into account for land
dedications. Also, if I buy a lot in Fayetteville that
is not part of a subdivision then I do not pay green
space fees. Anything outside the city limits but within
the growth area is also not included in green space
requirements. We need to track each plat from the time
we meet with the developer until the money is spent. It
will be a lot easier to track with the new ordinance.
Kimbrough: Do you feel comfortable with the last one or
two years?
Dugwyler: I feel comfortable with the last six months.
I feel the internal auditor is more involved now.
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VIII. Ad Hoc Committee Report
Waite: We have one more adhoc committee meeting to
finalize our proposal. I would like to hear any
objections.
Wright: I like the donations. Should we talk to the
businesses affected by the HMR?
Waite: No, not necessarily. We had three choices: HMR,
tax, and millage. We came up with what we considered the
best choice.
Kimbrough: We still have the subject of whether the
projects warrant an additional revenue source. We need
to make sure things will fly before we get too far down
the line.
Driver: We had some people missing form the last meeting
so we will have one more meeting to finalize this.
OTHER BUSINESS:
James: Can we get a fall baseball report?
LAKE FAYETTEVILLE TRAIL
Driver: We have two volunteers to help speed up the
trail around Lake Fayetteville. We have a lot of
interest. In order to do this we need board member
effort. Johnny has agreed to chair this.
GIRL'S SOFTBALL FIELDS
Driver: We need formation of committee to finalize the
plans for girl's softball complex.
Waite: The Facilities committee attempted to get City
engineers to do this in house, but they can't do it. We
need to call another meeting.
Clark: We need to select an engineer, etc.
Waite: Anyone on the board that is interested is welcome
even though it is the facilities committee.
WALKER PARK BASEBALL FIELD
Driver: The Facilities committee met at Walker Park on
the east side. Was there a report?
Waite: We had originally planned the baseball field on
the east side. Kimbrough suggested the west side. The
baseball people were going to draft a new plan and cut
into the soccer field.
Driver: Will this necessitate the removal of that
pavilion?
Clark: They said definitely not.
HIDDEN LAKE SUBDIVISION
Milholland: The park area at Hidden Lake is 4.75 acres.
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GENERAL INFORMATION
Clark: Two soccer fields at Lewis are complete and
should be ready for play in the spring. The playground
is almost complete at Gulley. The trail has been
extended to the playground and picnic tables. The street
department is still working on parking lot at Lewis and
the street at Davis. Davis Park is looking a lot
different.
Driver: What about the park on Gregg Street at Lakeside?
Clark: I talked to Lindsey. He wants to develop the
park and then donate it to the City.
The meeting adjourned at 7:20 pm.
Minutes Approved
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