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PRAB
REGULAR MEETING
AUGUST 1, 1994
Members Present: James, Mackey, Savage, Waite, Wright
Members Absent: Driver, Kimbrough
Staff Present: Clark, Cox, Edmonston
Media Present: Rusty Garrett, Ron Wood, Marvin Hilton
Guests Present: Donna Porter, Maryetta Caroll, Fran Alexa
Chuck Yarbrough, Bill Rudasill, Bob
BUSINESS:
I. MOTION:JAMES/WRIGHT
The minutes from the July 11, 1994 PRAB meeting were
approved unanimously 4-0.
II. GREEN SPACE ORDINANCE PROCEDURES REVIEW
Waite: Has everyone gone over these?
Edmonston: It is for developers to know what they need.
Waite: It looks very workable.
MOTION:WRIGHT/JAMES
The PRAB recommends to approve the Green Space ordinance
procedures as written by staff.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0.
III. PRAB AD HOC FINANCIAL PLANNING PROJECT UPDATE
Additional information will be sent out this month.
IV. LAKE FAYETTEVILLE SOFTBALL COMPLEX MEETING REPORT '
Waite: We suggested Mark Paul call the Adult Softball
Association to discuss their needs.
Wright: Is there a reason you measured for 300 feet
fences instead of 315 feet like was mentioned at the last
meeting?
Clark: 300 feet is the standard we have been going by.
315 feet would be quite hard to fit.
Waite: We are not sure if 315 will be necessary.
Mackey: Where is the closest complex with 300 ft fields?
Clark: Tyson Complex
Waite: We do have land at Lake Fayetteville North to
expand. I think this is just an informational item for
now. It is leaning toward a fourth field below field
three and moving to Lake Fayetteville North for a three
field complex.
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V. BOTANICAL GARDEN UPDATE
Donna Porter: It has been one year since we first came
to you. Our bylaws say our board must have 15 members.
We still have some vacancies. We have been mapping
boundaries, utilities, and soils. There are about 55
acres of the City property that we feel would suit this
project. We are still waiting on adjacent property
owners. We have not contacted some of them. The
children's garden would be a very significant part of
this garden. We wanted to help you envision what we
envision for this children's garden. We wanted you to see
the diverse people that are members of this committee.
Waite: There is not much we can do until we have a
proposal on the exact location.
Porter: It is hard to pin down some of the property
owners. We are waiting for a response from them. We
would like to be assured that when we get the private
property, we will still have the City Land.
Waite: We have some new members. We should put this on
the next agenda and give these members a chance to study
the map and location.
James: I agree. I would like a little time to study
this.
Wright: I think your group has done an outstanding job in
just one year.
Waite: Yes, we need to make a resolution. We will have
to send through City Council. We do not bind City to
this.
Mackey: This is the first time I have seen this. Why do
you have to have all this City land?
Porter: A garden would preserve this property and take
the maintenance out of City hands. We would like to use
the plant habitats to show people the different types and
ecosystems. Smaller gardens are usually 50 acres, while
larger ones are more than 500 acres. I would be more
than happy to meet with you and fill you in on
everything.
Edmonston: Are you looking at a long term lease or
transfer of deed?
Porter: A long term lease should work fine. A lot of
the buildings will not be built on City property because
it is so wooded.
VI. GREEN SPACE PLATS
ROLLIN BARNES
Owner/Developer:
Park District:
Location:
Acreage:
Units:
Rollin Barnes
Northwest
South of Franciscan and East of
Carriage Way
2.23 acres
18 multi -family
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Money in Lieu:
Land Dedication:
Park Plan:
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$4,320
.36 acres
No priority; Neighborhood
existing park acres; 1990
to 15 acres; 2010 needs
acres.
MOTION:WRIGHT/MACKEY
The PRAB recommends to the Planning Commission
money, $4,320, in lieu of a land dedication for
scale development for Rollin Barnes.
)LOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0
SEQUOYAH SOUTH
Owner/Developer:
Location:
Park District:
Units:
Acres:
Land Dedication:
Money in Lieu:
12, 9
needs 7.5
18 to 36
to accept
the large
Don Maddox
North of Huntsville, West of
Sherman
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26 multi family
5.04 acres
.26 acres
$2,210
MOTION:WRIGHT/JAMES
The PRAB recommends to the Planning Commission to accept
money, $2,210, in lieu of a land dedication for the green
space requirement for Sequoyah South.
MOTION APPROVED UNANIMOUSLY 4-0
DISCUSSION
Waite: We toured the land originally in 1982 and decided
to take land. This is not the same area. It is down the
hill from it. I don't see any way to take land. Those
are not single family units, they are multi family
dwellings. I don't think this is the exact land.
Clark: I don't remember this as being the exact land we
walked in 1982. It doesn't lend itself for a land
dedication.
Other Business:
DEVELOPMENT BETWEEN GREGG STREET AND HIGHWAY 112
Bill Rudasill:This is a 66 acre tract between Gregg Street and
Highway 112. Thirty acres of this is overlay district, twenty-five
will be residential zoned, and ten acres will be zoned office. This
will be in phases. The first phase will be about 120 units on 12
to 20 acres. It will be an individually owned townhouse
development.
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Clark: Is there any good land here for park land?
Bob: The overlay district ordinance states that 25 percent must be
green space. Therefore with 30 acres, 7.5 must be dedicated to
greenspace. The offices will probably be high rise. There will be
corporate and residential. People can live and work there. The
7.5 acres of greenspace will not be restricted. We would provide
all the amenities. We see the corporate as maintaining it. It is
hard to tell people they cannot use the park, so I don't know about
that. We cannot have a fence. There could be security problems.
Waite: This intersection is becoming incredibly dense with
Appleby Apartment, Lakeside Village, and now this.
Bob: There will be a restriction and covenants that whoever
develops this property must erect and maintain the greenspace.
Waite: The greenspace dedication for parks purposes must be a
transfer of title. This is the first time we have run into the
overlay ordinance in conjunction with the parks.
Edmonton: We need to get a ruling on if the overlay and
greenspace ordinances overlap or not. According to the new
greenspace ordinance we are to take land unless we go to City
Council.
Waite: Right now they are totally separate requirements.
Edmonston: The best way to start is to talk with Alett Little.
Waite: I don't see a meeting of the full boards will be
necessary. Maybe representatives from each board can meet.
Clark: I will talk with Alett and go from there.
Waite: We will need to meet with Planning just for ground rules.
Edmonston: A covenant would be good with residents and PRAB.
Residents usually change.
Bob: We sign assurity bonds when there is a gray area.
Mackey: We need to decide if your plan is compatible with the Parks
plan.
Bob: Places like this usually have tennis courts, etc.
Mackey: Are these homes designed for college age or families?
Bob: The homes will be for older singles, young singles, young
married couples, or just people that don't want a yard, especially
without children.
Edmonston: The land dedication would be 7.5 acres Is there any
other land available?
Bob: There are no floodplains in this area. There is some drainage
but no problems. It is all open grassland right now. Only two or
three trees.
The next meeting will be on September 12
Chuck Yarbrough: You are going with your current proposal to the A
& P with the girl's complex. I don't know financially which is the
best. This seems to be in direct conflict with what A & P is
about. Girl's softball is simply recreational. They want to bring
people to town. Why didn't Adult softball get some input. There
are some private investors in town. We are bring NIT,
invitationals, etc to town.
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Waite: The PRAB decided not to go with a new recommendation.
There was not even a motion. Out primary concern is Parks and
recreation. When talking with A & P we hoped to find an area that
was compatible with their needs. This was it.
Wright: We probably won't get the money anyway. I hope
adult softball can get some money. Our whole dilemma is money.
Mackey: How many players and how much per player is it in Adult
softball. The registration fee like at Babe Ruth and Walker really
helps. We build fences, field number seven, and bleachers. Walker
Park this past season spent $80,000 on direct expenses. This cam
from fees. Softballs are a big expense. The costs are $35 at
Walker Park and $50 or 60 at Babe Ruth.
Yarbrough:There is a $20 fee for sanction fees.
Mackey: It costs a lot of money to operate. An organization with
87 teams. The hamburger tax is paying for the extra fees.
The meeting adjourned at 7:15 pm.