HomeMy WebLinkAbout2009-02-17 MinutesMayor Lioneld Jordan
City Attorney Kit Williams
City Clerk Sondra Smith
City of Fayetteville Arkansas
City Council Meeting Minutes
February 1.7, 2009
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page I of 16
Aldermen
Ward
I Position
1 —Adella Gray
Ward
I Position
2 —Brenda Thiel
Ward
2 Position
1 — Kyle B. Cook
Ward
2 Position
2 — Matthew Petty
Ward
3 Position
1 — Robert K. Rhoads
Ward
3 Position
2 — Robert Ferrell
Ward
4 Position
I —Shirley Lucas
Ward
4 Position
2 — Sarah E. Lewis
A meeting of the Fayetteville City Council was held on February 17, 2009 at 6:00 PM in Room
219 of the City Administration Building located at 113 West Mountain Street, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
Mayor Jordan called the meeting to order,
PRESENT: Alderman Gray, Thiel, Cook, Petty, Rhoads, Ferrell, Lucas, Lewis, Mayor
Jordan, Assistant City Attorney David Whitaker, City Clerk Sondra Smith, Staff, Press,
and Audience.
Pledge of Allegiance
Mayor's Announcements, Proclamations and Recognitions:
Mayor Jordan asked for a report on the Ice Storm and the clean-up efforts.
David Jurgens, Water and Wastewater Director gave a brief report on the RFP process and the
clean-up efforts.
Don Marr, Chief of Staff gave a report of the amount of debris that has been picked up thus far
and the approximate amount left to pick up.
Alderman Lewis: There has been a lot of extra staff time and I am wondering does FEMA
include that in their calculations?
Don Marr: There are very detailed guidelines about staff reimbursement in terms of
administrative costs. It is not all covered but some of it will be.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
acccssfavettev i I le.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 2 of 16
Alderman Ferrell: In my four years of service I have worked on several RFP's and this one we
have had more response to than any one we have ever had. Because of our need to move on this
so that we do everything right for FEMA I was asked to mention that if we are successful
tomorrow we might ask to call a Special City Council meeting tomorrow evening or Thursday
morning. He thanked the City staff for all their hard work.
Alderman Cook: What is the status on the cash flow situation?
Paul Becker, Finance and Internal Services Director: We don't know how long it is going to
take for Federal money to turn around. We feel it will be three weeks to a month. As far as the
State FEMA, they could have a longer time period. We will have to ask you to appropriate the
funds for the project and then I will ask for a method to handle the cash flow. I anticipate that
we could come up with funds of about $5 million if we needed to.
Alderman Cook: So if we hit that $15 million mark we are going to have the cash.
Paul Becker: I would have to
go back
to
the
drawing board
and possibly ask for more cash to
be advanced from the General
Fund but
I
feel
that
$5 million
should be able to accommodate us.
Presentations, Reports and Discussion Items:
Alderman Cook read the listing of all the current Board and Committee vacancies.
Quarterly Report of Financial Condition of the City
Sondra Smith, City Clerk/Treasurer presented the City Council with the quarterly financial
report of the City. A copy of the report was placed in the City Council's mailboxes.
Paul Becker: We will have a surplus of over $500,000 in the General Fund this year. $200,000
of that is because of excess revenue and we will lapse approximately $300,000 worth of
expenditures. He listed the details within the report.
Mayor Jordan: Give us the report on the sales tax.
Paul
Becker: The City's
one penny is down .8% compared
to last year. The County is down
.5%.
That puts us about 2.8%
under budget. This is the first
month against this budget which is
about
$70,000 below what
expectations were.
Alderman Cook: So in the two county areas was the sales tax revenue down if you combine the
two counties?
Paul Becker: The combined two county areas the sales tax revenue was down compared to last
year.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayetteville.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 3 of 16
Alderman
Ferrell: I just wanted
to comment and
say
that despite the down
side in January, I
was happy
that we started with the
$500,000 extra in
the
General Fund.
Agenda Additions: None
Consent:
Approval of the February 3, 2009 City Council meeting minutes.
Approved
Bid # 08-16 Kinco Constructors, LLC: A resolution approving Change Order # 10 under Bid
# 08-16 with Kinco Constructors, LLC in the amount of $123,051.00 for the construction of
Wilson Park Bridge and Trail Connection; and approving a 10% project contingency in the
amount of $12,305.00.
Resolution 36-09 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk.
Fire Department Donations: A resolution approving a budget adjustment for the Fayetteville
Fire Department in the amount of $950.00 to recognize donation revenues from local businesses
to fund fire employee service awards.
Resolution 37-09 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk.
McGoodwin, Williams & Yates, Inc. Amendment No. 1: A resolution approving Amendment
No. 1 to the contract with McGoodwin, Williams & Yates, Inc. in the amount of $63,800.00 to
update the Water Transmission and Distribution System Model and Master Plan; approving a
contingency in the amount of $5,347.00; and approving a budget adjustment in the amount of
$50,000.00.
Resolution 38-09 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk.
McGoodwin, Williams & Yates, Inc. Amendment No. 3: A resolution approving Amendment
No. 3 to the contract with McGoodwin, Williams & Yates, Inc. reducing the contract amount by
$947,298.00 for design and construction phase services of the West Side Wastewater Treatment
Plant, Broyles Road and the Mitigation Wetlands of the Wastewater System Improvement
Project (WSIP).
Resolution 39-09 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk.
RJN Group Amendment No. 5: A resolution approving Amendment No. 5 to the engineering
contract with RJN Group in the amount of $597,704.00 for WSIP West Side Collection System
design and construction phase services.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
access fay ettev i I I e. o rg
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 4 of 16
Resolution 40-09 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk.
Amend City Council Rules of Order and Procedure: A resolution to amend the City Council
Rules of Order and Procedure to add a new section concerning orientation of new alderman.
Resolution 41-09 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk.
Alderman Gray moved to approve the consent agenda. Alderman Lucas seconded the
motion. Upon roll call the motion passed unanimously.
Unfinished Business:
Villas at Stonebridge Appeal: An ordinance establishing a Residential Planned Zoning District
Titled R-PZD 06-2170, Villas at Stonebridge, located south of Highway 16 East and east of Goff
Farm Road; containing approximately 53.03 acres; amending the official zoning map of the City
of Fayetteville; and adopting the associated master development plan. (This ordinance was left
on the First Reading at the December 2, 2008 City Council meeting. This ordinance was left on
the Second Reading at the December 16, 2008 City Council meeting. This ordinance was left on
the Second Reading at the January 6, 2009 City Council meeting and then tabled to the February
3, 2009 City Council Meeting.)
This ordinance was left on the Second Reading at the February 3, 2009 City Council
meeting and then tabled to the February 17, 2009 City Council Meeting.
Alderman Thiel moved to suspend the rules and go to the third and final reading.
Alderman Lucas seconded the motion. Upon roll call the motion passed unanimously.
Assistant City Attorney David Whitaker read the ordinance.
Jeremy Pate, Director of Current Planning gave a brief description and update on the item
Alderman Thiel: I think it was you that mentioned the possibility of another condition of
approval would be that the developer would do improvements on Dead Horse Mountain Road a
little farther south. Is that something that staff has discussed with the applicants?
Jeremy Pate: Not any further than what the conditions are currently. Right now the conditions
state that for Dead Horse Mountain Road, prior to the final plat of Phase III, the applicant shall
overlay and widen Dead Horse Mountain road from the north property line to the south property
line which does include some intervening property.
Alderman Thiel: Phase I would have the least impact on traffic and that is their plan to do the
single family lots first?
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayetteville.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 5 of 16
Jeremy Pate: Yes,
the initial phase would actually
provide two
points of access to Dead Horse
Mountain
Road but
it would be the northern access
and the southern access. It would be a full
street that
would
be
constructed all the way through the project
to
provide those accesses.
Alderman Thiel: I would like to ask the applicant a question. One of our concerns was some of
these other projects surrounding this that haven't been built out yet. I guess I just want some
assurances that at least the beginning of this project will get started. Do you feel confident that
that is going to happen?
Todd Jacobs, Architect for the Project: It's a large project by City of Fayetteville standards; it's
a traditional neighborhood project so it has a lot more infrastructure than your typical
subdivision. We have five phases over seven years. This is the last undeveloped piece of land in
that area to be on a golf course. We feel confident that this is a good area so it is not going to
happen over night and we are looking at a year before dirt can be turned.
Alderman Thiel: I do like the project and the fact that it does have such a diverse amount of
housing for a golf course which you don't always see.
Alderman
Lewis:
I am wondering
about the impact on the water system. Do we have lift
stations out
there?
is a. problem with the
bridge that seems like it would
David Jurgens: Yes, on the piece mil basis with each development that is going in the
improvements have gone into meet the water supply. The one development that is up high on the
hilltop will require an elevated tank if and when that would come in the future but otherwise we
have adequate water supply there.
Alderman Lewis: Tell me more about the situation with the
bridge. I
am excited about the
design of this but I am really
concerned about the connectivity.
If there
is a. problem with the
bridge that seems like it would
be a real issue.
Jeremy Pate: The Council approved the bridge construction in the last couple of months. It is a
cost share and is anticipated to be constructed with construction hopefully beginning in the next
few months. This bridge would simply replace at the same elevation as the bridge is currently.
Your point about the access to the project is exactly what staff had a concern about. The concern
was the location and access. There was very little available for connectivity with this project.
As for the bridge there are conditions of approval related to fees to be paid by the developer for
the bridge and those would likely never be paid because the bridge will be constructed before
they ever get to this point.
Alderman Lewis: What are the plans for road improvement?
Jeremy Pate: The applicant would be required to put a turn lane at the main entrance and then
by Phase III they would overlay and widen to a certain section the frontage between their two
entrances. North of that there are no planned improvements at this time.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521.7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayetteville.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 6 of 16
Alderman Thiel: You do
understand there is another way
out to Highway
16? Whenever that
bridge is out people
have to
go out Goff Farm
Road. There are actually three
ways into this.
Alderman Ferrell: I think the availability of an affordable place on a golf course lends itself to
the lifestyle of Fayetteville and it's wonderful. In reading through the Planning Commission
notes the vote on it was 3-4 and there were two commissioners absent at the meeting. Although I
understand other peoples concerns I think this will definitely be an asset.
Alderman Lewis confirmed that area that was going to be the golf course on the map.
Todd Jacobs pointed out where the golf course was in fact located. He stated our houses abut
the golf course. He pointed out where the single family lots were located.
Alderman Lewis: Can you tell me about your stormwater plans?
Todd Jacobs: This is mostly public infrastructure going in. Most of our stormwater would be
along the golf course mostly on the homeowners in forms of rain gardens and cisterns because
we don't have a lot of area to work with. We will be making the ponds larger and looking at
LID features within the actual homeowner's property for our LID stormwater for this project.
Alderman Petty: I think this is a little ahead of it's time. This would be a great thing to bring
forward and to approve when the area and infrastructure around there has been more developed.
I don't think I can support it for those reasons.
Todd Jacobs spoke on the design
and stated the design
itself is really good and is
what the City
of Fayetteville is looking for. He
went on to speak on
the policy issues and the
infrastructure.
He also referenced various slides in
his presentation which explained the project
in
more detail.
Alderman Lucas: The trail goes up to Town Bridge Creek.
Todd Jacobs: It actually goes a little farther now.
Alderman Lucas: Will it go up to Highway 16?
Todd Jacobs pointed out on the map where the trail will go.
Alderman Lucas: It's like they could almost go to the commercial area there.
Todd Jacobs: Right, eventually this will get you to Walker Park and that will be the main
connection. Between what is completed and what we will build that will be a pretty good section
of filling in the pieces.
He continued with his slide presentation which explained the project.
I think staff and I agree that this is a good development and with that we looked at doing the
phasing and the infrastructure to allow the project and infrastructure to work side by side which
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
acccssfayctteville.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 7 of 16
would
allow
the infrastructure to catch up and
the phasing to come versus trying to do this
project
all
at
once.
Alderman Petty: Maybe I have underestimated how quickly that area is changing. Can you
explain some of the research you have done on how the population is expanding in that area of
town?
Todd Jacobs: We looked at Stonebridge Villa Golf Course and house sales have been in the
average of 30-40 per year. This has been one of the strongest housing areas selling in
Fayetteville because people like the area. Elkins is starting to do its own retail within its own
city and we feel that it will hopefully move to this project because it will be closer to town. We
also looked at the traffic numbers and I am sure they are probably looking for property for a
Neighborhood Market in this area.
Alderman Lewis: Are there bus routes or other options to ensure that a bus route would reach
out to this development?
Todd Jacobs: I think that is a little optimistic. There will probably never be a bus service out
there if we continue to build RSF-4 subdivisions. There is just not enough density to support it.
There might be a bus stop at Highway 16 and Dead Horse Mountain Road but that would be the
most likely spot for a bus service.
Hank Broyles, a developer for this project stated after the vote by the Planning Commission I
spoke to Sean Trumbo who said that if he would have been there he would have voted for it. He
went on to list the price ranges of the housing within the project.
Alderman Gray: I do feel like it is time for us to build this development. I like it a lot and I
think that we have not approved anything similar to this in this part of town nor have we
approved any that have the wide variety of cost of the living situations that Hank was just talking
about. We need to look at the property that is left and keep in mind that something is going in on
that property. I would much rather have a beautifully planned development like this that offers
the golf course to folks who want that and they don't have to buy a half million dollar house in
order to be on the golf course. I feel that it is time for Fayetteville to approve this development
and 1 will be supporting it.
Alderman Thiel: I think it is important to note that bond money has been approved to go out to
this intersection on Huntsville and in the next phase of our bonding we are going to be looking at
going farther out each time. There is a lot of development out there already and we have not had
any objections from anyone that lives out there. I support this project. It just makes sense.
Alderman Rhoads: I agree with Alderman Gray and Thiel but the thing that has the most
impact upon my thought process is that we keep looking for and asking people to bring forward
affordable housing and there is a lot of affordable homes in here and it's a very nice place to live.
That just weighs heavily on my decision.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayettevi I le.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 8 of 16
Mayor Jordan asked shall the ordinance pass. Upon roll call the ordinance passed 5-3.
Alderman Gray, Thiel, Rhoads, Ferrell and Lucas voting yes. Alderman Lewis, Cook and
Petty voting no.
Ordinance 5220 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk
New Business:
CUP 08-3158 Wilkins Appeal: An appeal of Conditional Use Permit 08-3158 (Wilkins) which
was granted at the January 12, 2009 Planning Commission meeting.
Jeremy Pate gave a brief description of the appeal. The Planning Commission voted to approve
this with a vote of 7-1 and staff also recommended approval of this conditional use permit for a
tattoo business. We felt this would be a use that is compatible with this neighborhood. I want to
mention that the name of the business should not be considered as part of your consideration for
this application because it is protected by free speech rights.
Alderman Lucas: The original reason you looked at this was because of the sign?
Jeremy Pate: We got a call on the sign.
Alderman Lucas: What was decided about the sign?
Jeremy Pate: There was not a permit issued for the sign.
Alderman Lucas: What was the sign?
Jeremy Pate: The
original complaint was
a small sign that they
would sit out on the
property.
We investigated and
informed the applicant
and then went through
our normal research
process.
Alderman Lucas: Would the sign on the side of the building be approved?
Jeremy Pate: It would likely. Subject to the conditional use permit process we will not issue a
Certificate of Zoning Compliance unless that sign is permitted and approved by our office.
Alderman Rhoads: What is the procedure that this appeal comes before us?
Jeremy Pate explained the appeal process.
Alderman Rhoads: Does that mean the
Alderman want the appeal to
go one way or
another or
does it mean they have appealed because
someone has asked them and
they just want
to bring it
forward?
Jeremy Pate: Most Aldermen are simply appealing to get it before the full Council for
discussion. It does not mean they support or do not support the Planning Commission decision.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayetteville.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 9 of 16
Alderman Lucas: I was called about that and I felt like the two Aldermen that are in the ward
thought it was worth while to bring forward and I had calls from people concerned about it and I
thought it should be brought forward to discuss at the Council level.
Alderman
Thiel: I want you to explain
to me again
why
tattoo parlors weren't included in the
Downtown
General and only included as
a conditional
use.
doesn't
Jeremy Pate: When we did the Downtown Master Plan we did not go down to the detail of
looking at each and every use within each use unit. We have 42 use units that are identified in
our Unified Development Code. We looked at our established use units and if we felt that the
use unit was a fit in Downtown General we would include it as a use by right. If there were
potentially objectionable uses within that use unit we might include it as a conditional use.
Alderman Thiel: So you didn't include anything in Use Unit 17 then.
Jeremy Pate: It's all a conditional use permit, anything in Use Unit 17 is a conditional use.
Alderman Thiel: To respond to Robert, what really struck me in the minutes was there is
actually a new owner of the property that was being used which is a separate building aside from
this that is being rented. They objected to this and they felt like it would not compliment what
they are doing to their new business. That made it incompatible with improvements and the
neighborhood as to what they wanted. That really factored in to whether or not this was
something we should automatically approve at this time.
Alderman Lewis: I am wondering about some comments about the landscaping and code
compliance with the building itself. Is the business responsible for that and are those two
connected? Can the City ask the business to be responsible for those things or is that a separate
issue?
Jeremy
Pate: The City
can require
that as long as it meets the threshold.
In this particular case
though
there is no expansion
and the improvements are well below our
threshold so the City
doesn't
have the right to
require any
of those improvements.
Alderman
Lewis: That
is what I am struggling with the most. The whole look of the place
needs help.
Can that be a
part of the
conditions of this?
Jeremy Pate: It really cannot be a part of the conditions of this but what I would recommend is
that we attack the ordinance. If the ordinance is not meeting what we as a city feel is proper then
that is where we look at it.
Alderman Ferrell: I think that until that ordinance is amended that would be a different
situation. It would be inconsistent to me not to support this regardless of my personal feelings
against the establishment.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayetteville.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 10 of 16
Alan Ostner, resident of 312 South Block spoke against the business. He stated to say this is an
art issue completely misses the point. This puts us to the side that live nearby it and so I would
ask to make it a neighborhood issue. He went on to speak on use units. He stated this is
incompatible for our neighborhood. He expressed his personal issues with the compatibility.
Alderman Ferrell: You have not spoken with this business person?
Alan Ostner: We have spoken a little bit.
Alderman Ferrell: Have you asked about changing the conditions with the owner?
Alan Ostner: Yes. I said it here and he came and acknowledged that he heard it so yes.
Joanne Southern, a resident of 104 West 5th Street and the Vice President of the Jennings Plus
Neighborhood Association spoke in favor of the business. She asked where all the controversy
was when "Extreme Novelty Shop" was in this location. She spoke on the fact that this does not
affect property values. She stated this needs more thought and more information presented.
J.R. Ball, owner of the property adjacent to the property stated I am here to appeal the decision
of allowing Low Life Tattoo Shop to operate in its current location. He stated the key to all of
this is public perception. Our neighborhood perceives Low Life Tattoos as not compatible with
our neighborhood and I hope you find it not compatible with your vision of this valuable part of
our city.
Alderman Ferrell: Was the tattoo parlor there before you bought your property?
J.R. Ball: Yes it was.
Collin Wilkins, Owner of Low Life Tattoo addressed some of the concerns that had been
mentioned. He explained how he obtained the signatures for his petition. He gave a description
of his business and stated to say that I am not compatible with this area is very wrong.
Alderman Thiel: How long is your lease with the owner of this property?
Collin Wilkins: Five years.
Alderman Thiel: That is if you can operate as a tattoo parlor or can you get out of that if you
can't?
Collin Wilkins: I am probably going to be in a bind if you all shut me down because I am not
sure I can get out of the lease.
Alderman
Thiel:
Were
you under the impression whenever you went into that lease that you
could have
a tattoo
parlor
there?
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayettevi I le. org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 11 of IG
Collin Wilkins: Yes ma'am. I specifically asked her what it was zoned and she said it was C-2
and that is what I went with. I did not know about the new zoning. I have complied fully with
everything that has been asked of me.
Alderman Thiel: What kind of
issue would that
get us
into?
Would he have recourse if we
voted
this down because he rented.
this on a premise
that he
could
use it for this?
Assistant City Attorney David Whitaker: I won't characterize it as odds of success but of
course he has recourse no matter what occurs. I am not going to comment on his relationship
with his landlord.
Alderman Thiel: That is a very long lease.
Collin Wilkins: That
was to help
me with the rent. I am
very fortunate at this location to have a
low overhead where I
can make it
though this year pretty
easy.
Alderman Thiel: If you
are successful do
you see yourself
making improvements to the
building and the parking
lot
of your business?
Alderman Lewis:
Are you willing
Collin Wilkins: I am not opposed to it but right now I do not have the funds to do that.
Alderman Gray: What kind of hours do you have now? I read something about your hours
being cut. Is that right?
Collin Wilkins: No ma'am. I lost my other artist who was running it during the day time.
Basically I get off work at the restaurant and get there around 5:30 p.m. I will be opening at
noon until 9:00 p.m.
Alderman Gray:
Then until 11:00
p.m. on the
weekends.
Collin Wilkins: Yes ma'am. That
is basically
the standard in all the shops around here
Alderman Lewis:
Are you willing
to work with
the Neighborhood Association?
Collin Wilkins: Yes I am very willing to work with them. No one has ever come to my shop
and talked to me. I have went out and talked to everybody. I think that shows a part of my
willingness to get out there and talk to the people one on one and educate them on some of the
issues. I hope you all look at this with an open mind and let me continue to run my business.
Rebecca Latourette, property owner at 205 West South Street stated I will be a good neighbor if
this goes his way but I would like the City Council to know that people are putting a tremendous
amount of money into the neighborhood in a downed economic time. In two years you are going
to see a huge difference. She went on to speak on the property values of that area.
Alderman Ferrell: She just said that she would like to be a good neighbor and I think that is the
best policy.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayettevil le. org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 12 of 16
Alderman Rhoads: What is the Council supposed to be evaluating in this appeal?
Assistant City Attorney David Whitaker: You have to use your own best judgment of what
this word means to you, compatibility not only with adjacent properties but overall with the
zoning district in which the conditional use is sought.
Alderman Rhoads: In some of the minutes of the prior Planning Commission meetings one of
the Fayetteville Citizens stated to grant a new conditional use permit there needs to be a
compelling reason for the business.
Assistant City Attorney David Whitaker: That is overstating the standard. That term
compelling in the law has real meaning and there is no such standard in a conditional use.
Alderman Thiel: It's not so much the business as it is the lack of improvements to the building.
I think it is more of the cosmetics and the fact that someone is improving a building next to this
one. If we do this conditional use it is not just with this applicant right?
Assistant City Attorney David Whitaker: It is just this person.
Alderman Thiel: So that will not automatically remain a tattoo parlor.
Jeremy Pate: A conditional use permit is very specific to the application that has been
submitted.
Alderman Cook: We can't hold Mr. Wilkins to that standard; it is the owner of the building. If
there is not enough improvement on this building based on this business to warrant that then if
we want to change that we need a new ordinance. I am supportive of the neighborhood but I feel
that this business, as low impact as it is, it is not going to affect the neighborhood in the long run.
If it is the building and the improvements I think that is another issue we should tackle in a
different way.
Alderman Gray: We don't have any assurance that the building is going to look any better if
we move the tattoo shop out. It sounds like to me that the three things that Mr. Ostner has asked,
Mr. Wilkins is perfectly willing to try to make that happen. I will be supporting allowing Mr,
Wilkins to continue his shop.
Alderman Petty: I don't think this will affect the neighborhood either. We have seen no data to
back up the claim that property values would be affected negatively and I don't think we should
make our decisions based on theory but instead on data. The fact that the parlor was operating
prior to the purchase of the adjacent building and the decision to make an investment in that
building nullifies any claim of incompatibility between those two businesses. I will also be
rejecting the appeal.
Alderman Lucas: I am not opposed to a tattoo parlor but we did have a Charrette and we did
change all these zonings. It is Downtown General and these people have invested in this area
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayettevi I le.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 13 of 16
with confidence that this is the Downtown General. I feel we need to support these people in
their efforts. It seems to me if this was compatible then it would be in the zoning by right instead
of having to be a conditional use. Maybe this shows that we need a business license so we can
track these things. I am going to support the neighborhood because this is what we voted on.
Alderman Ferrell: If we need to change our ordinances then let's change them.
Alderman Lewis: I am supportive of the neighborhoods efforts and I think they deserve
attention. He is willing to improve it in his capacity. I don't believe we have a place to deny
their business because I think it is compatible.
Alderman Rhoads: I am going to vote against the appeal because I do think it is compatible.
Alderman Thiel:
I
don't
think
I have really heard an overwhelming response from the
neighborhood one
way
or the
other.
Alderman Gray: I think if the neighborhood was strongly against it they would be here.
Upon roll call the appeal was denied 7-1. Alderman Lucas voting no.
Resolution 42-09 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk
Bid # 09-12 LaRue Contractor, Inc.: A resolution awarding Bid # 09-12 and approving a
contract with LaRue Contractor, Inc. in the amount of $947,628.99 for construction of Mount
Sequoyah water and sewer improvements; and approving a project contingency in the amount of
$50,000.00.
David Jurgens gave a brief description of the contract. He stated they were not recommending
going with the lowest bidder. He stated the lower bidders had no prior work experience similar
to this project. He stated we feel it is in our constituent's best interest that we insure the
contractor has adequate experience to be able to execute this project.
Alderman Cook: I agree with staffs assessment on that. We are all familiar with Mount
Sequoyah and it is going to take a talented person to pull this off. I agree that we should be
looking for a contractor that has some experience on that and it is still well below the
engineering estimate and we should move on it.
Alderman Cook moved to approve the resolution. Alderman Gray seconded the motion.
Upon roll call the resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution 43-09 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575.8257 (Fax)
accessfayetteville.org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 14 of 16
Pending State Legislation: A resolution to express the City Council's opposition to any
proposed state law that would constitute an unfunded mandate upon city taxpayers or would
remove discretionary power of the City Council to control its budgetary expenses.
Mayor Jordan: This is something I had staff to draw up. We had some concerns about some
legislation which is what we call a shell bill and we don't exactly know what all is in it. We met
with pensioners on Wednesday for about five hours and at the end of the day they had some
concerns about cutting their benefits. There is talk that they would like to merge with LOPFI
and if that occurs it would cost the City $1.7 million per year to fund that for fifteen years.
Paul Becker: This is a resolution of intent to the General Assembly requesting that they do not
add any unfunded mandates to the City and to prevent them from taking away the Council's
discretionary power to determine whether or not to send the old pension plans down state.
Mayor Jordan: So basically what I am asking the Council to do is support this resolution that
we can contact legislators with our opposition to that.
Alderman Lucas: The pensioners then did not agree to reduce.
Mayor Jordan: They are looking into merging the plan and they did talk about reducing but
have not decided to do that.
Alderman Lucas: They are getting 100% or better?
Mayor Jordan: 90% is the lowest and it goes up from there.
City Clerk Sondra Smith: On the Firemen's Pension the percentage is 90% but they enacted a
3% COLA for three years which puts them at a higher level or close to 100% of the ending
benefit.
Alderman Lucas: That was done this week?
City Clerk Sondra Smith: No, that was done previously. The 3% temporary COLA is over
with. They wanted to reapply for that and continue the COLA. There was a study done and the
actuary said they could not even sustain a I% temporary COLA at this time because of the plans
shape.
Alderman Lucas: Does this go to all the legislators?
Paul Becker: Normally just to our legislators. The Municipal League is aware of the shell bills
but this would just go to our legislators I believe.
Mayor Jordan: You might tell the Council the losses that they have incurred over the last year
in retirements.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
access fayettevi I I e. org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 15 of 16
Paul Becker: Last year alone they have lost in excess of $2 million in each plan. The
investment losses alone in the Police Pension Plan were $2.1 million and $1.6 million in the Fire
Pension Plan.
Alderman Lewis:
Can you
remind me
of the timeline on this? If this passes what is the next
step? When does it
go to our
legislators
and then what happens.
Paul Becker: I would assume it would go to the legislators and alert them to this particular
legislation and what the City's official position on it is.
Alderman Lewis: Because of that is the City sending a representative to lobby this topic or act
in that role?
Paul Becker: At this time no.
Alderman Cook: If it doesn't roll into LOPFI what happens? If they continue to lose money
and can't even maintain their benefits what happens?
Mayor Jordan: They go down. From the graph that we saw given to us by the actuary it just
shows the pension plan nose diving.
Alderman Cook: Is there any governing body that could force that action where it doesn't go
down?
Paul Becker: The Council would have to intervene and that would be your decision. The
graphs that we did see said that the Fire Pension even under the best of circumstances was going
to be in trouble within a nine year period. The Police Pension could possibly squeak by but the
Fire Pension would have a problem within 10 years.
Don Marr: I just want to remind the Council that the reason that this is the approach is that
when we are having dialogue as staff with legislators that represent us we are asked is this the
official position of the City Council. You are the only body who can make that policy decision.
So even though we might be advocating on your behalf it requires a resolution from you. This is
being done so that we can give guiding principals and philosophies about your positions as it
relates to this specific area.
Alderman Lucas moved to approve the resolution. Alderman Thiel seconded the motion.
Mayor Jordan: We will keep you posted on how this is going because this is a serious situation
for the pensioners and the City, if one of those state laws are passed then it will become our
issue.
Alderman
Cook: Another thing
that concerns me is that if we do get to the
point where we do
see failure
and it does fall back on
us that is going to be a difficult situation.
Mayor Jordan: To me it is a no win situation but my job is to protect the citizens.
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575-8257 (Fax)
accessfayettevi Ile. org
City Council Meeting
February 17, 2009
Page 16 of 16
Assistant City Attorney David Whitaker: The gist of this resolution is saying yes we know
those issues are out there but we think the best legislative model is that this City Council decide
what is the best way to handle that.
Mayor Jordan: Another thing that is in this resolution is if they do pass something like that
they are to provide the funding for us to be able to do that. We are trying to protect everyone,
the pensioners and the City all at the same time.
City Clerk Sondra Smith: At the meeting last week there was some strong feelings to do a
benefit decrease but one of the problems was we had the actuary there and the Executive
Director of PRB there and he said we are in new ground charting new waters and he did not feel
like we could do a benefit decrease. He recommended that we get with our legal counsel and get
an opinion before we did something like that. Otherwise there would have been a motion last
week to decrease benefits. I do not feel like it needs to go to LOPFI at the current benefit level.
Upon roll call the resolution passed unanimously.
Resolution 44-09 as Recorded in the office of the City Clerk.
The meeting adjourned at 8:50 PM
l r
OpArfyor r r
113 West Mountain 72701 (479) 521-7700 (479) 575.8257 (Fax)
accessfayetteville.org