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MINUTES OF A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
A special meeting of the Fayetteville City Council was held on
Tuesday, November 28, 1995, at 3:30 p.m., in room 326 of the City
Administration Building, 113 W. Mountain, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
PRESENT: Mayor Fred Hanna; Aldermen Woody Bassett, Steve Parker,
Jimmy Hill, Len Schaper, Kit Williams, and Cyrus Young,
Sr. Clerk Typist Jane Heth, City Attorney Jerry Rose;
members of the staff, press, and audience.
ABSENT: Aldermen Heather Daniel and Stephen Miller
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Hanna called the meeting to order with six aldermen
present.
Mayor Hanna mentioned that the two absent aldermen were in the
Dominican Republic.
PROPOSED LANDFILL - HOBBS MOUNTAIN
Mayor Hanna explained that the reason for the special meeting was
to consider two resolutions regarding Sunray and the proposed
landfill on Hobbs Mountain near Durham, Arkansas.
City Attorney Jerry Rose asked if the Council wanted to discuss
the resolutions one at a time and if so which one would be first.
He then read the resolution opposing site development and
construction at the proposed Hobbs Mountain landfill site prior
to the culmination of the appeal process. Of the two
resolutions, this was the one he was asked to draft first.
Mayor Hanna spoke of the short notice given for this meeting but
explained he'd received a call from an attorney in Little Rock,
Gregory Yeatman, who is a representative for Sunray. At that
time, Mr. Yeatman informed the Mayor that his request to allow
construction was only for the preparation of the road surface.
Mr. Yeatman wanted to be present to inform the Council about this
request. The Mayor stated he'd also had staff check with the
Four -County Solid Waste District to provide a representative to
discuss this issue.
Mayor Hanna stated to the Council that the City Attorney had
informed him that a resolution or ordinance takes five votes to
pass, a majority of the elected council. He noted only six
aldermen were present.
Mayor Hanna opened the discussion to the audience and staff.
Phyllis Rice, Assistant to the Mayor, noted for the Council and
Mayor that representatives for the White River EPA were also
present.
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Alderman Williams asked the Sunray representative why the..stay
should not be enforced as it is now, to let the process work -and•`
get a decision before construction begins.
Randy Holcomb, District Manager of Sunray Services, Inc., replied
that this is allowed by regulations.. He distributed to the
Council copies of Sunray's petition. They have asked for basic
road and grubbing work, nothing that they would not`have„been
entitled to if it had not been a landfill in question. They
could have done this two months ago before the landfill permit
was granted; it really has nothing to do with construction of the
landfill. It is general site improvement, regardless of the
outcome of the appeal process. It is basic roadwork, drainage
control, tree clearing; etc.
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Alderman Schaper asked why Sunray would want to do that if they
might lose the appeal and not be able to build the landfill. _
Holcomb replied that they have other uses for the property and
wouldcontinue to develop and make use of the property.
In response to a question from Alderman Parker, Holcomb did not
want to publicly speculate on what the other uses might be.
In response to a request for an example from Alderman Parker,
Holcomb stated one use might be no more than to create a hundred -
acre pasture with road access and surface water control. --
In response to a request from Alderman Williams'for'an estimation
of how long it would take to make these improvements, Holcomb
stated it was strictly an issue of weather. Assuming good
weather, he thought it might take a month or two.
Alderman Williams asked for further clarification of the -permit
that was approved, asking if it was only for the landfill beyond
the •two-mile buffer zone or did it include all Hobbs Mountain.
Holcomb replied it was only for the area outside thetwo-mile
buffer zone, approximately 16 acres. -
Alderman Parker asked if this two-mile buffer zone -was from the
White River itself and how far is it from the watercourse at the
foot of Hobbs Mountain, which is a direct tributary to the White
River.
Holcomb answered that this is a dry stream bed fifty percent of
the year and further answered that it is about one mile from the
river; from the footprint of the landfill by watercourse -it is
two and a half to three miles to the White River.
Alderman Schaper remarked that 16 acres is not a very big
landfill and asked why one is being considered at this site.
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Holcomb stated that Sunray believes it is economically viable.
In response to a question from Schaper, Holcomb replied they plan
to put municipal solid waste there.
Alderman Parker stated that he'd sat through one of the hearings
and saw the description of the materials allowed, which included
dead animals such as chicken kills caused by cold weather.
Holcomb responded that by regulation this could be allowed but it
is a very minute part of the waste stream. Most of the poultry
farms make other arrangements for dead animals.
In response to a question from Alderman Williams, Holcomb
responded that the appeal hearing is scheduled for March 1, 1996.
He reiterated that they are petitioning for basic earthwork, part
of the construction process of a landfill, chicken farm,
subdivision, pasture, etc.
In response to a question from Alderman Schaper, Holcomb said
weather considerations were the reason for the petition being
made now.
Mayor Hanna asked for further questions from the audience.
Jennifer Hanson, a member of the White River EPA, responded to
comments made by Holcomb. She stated the appeals process is a
normal and required part of the process. It has been moving
through the courts abiding by all the standard regulatory dates
and practices. Sunray's request is highly irregular and could
moot their appeal. Their appeal is based not only on comments
made during the original permitting process, but also on expanded
information gathered since. This information needs to be seen by
the public. If Sunray's motion is granted, the public may not
have that opportunity. Because of the potential impact not only
on the water quality but also on the taxpayers, she urged the
Council to consider this matter seriously. Earthwork on the site
has to some extent already been initiated, possibly in violation
of federal and state regulations. This is not just a private
property issue. Earth mutilation and alteration on the site
affects not only issues of archeological importance, of game and
wildlife importance, and water quality importance, but also the
life quality of all people who live along this stretch of
property. For the fifty percent of the year when this is not a
dry creek, the earth alteration also impacts all the streams
which are downstream of this runoff area, which serve 150 farms.
Mayor Hanna cautioned that the meeting was about to turn into a
public hearing. He stated this meeting is for the consideration
of the resolution.
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Alderman Williams commented that the first -resolution needs'to,be
moved..on,but the appeal on the second resolution won't be heard
until March 1. The stay 'will be heard much sooner. ,We need to
move on the first resolution but can take mote time to study the
second resolution.
Alderman Young said there
don't consider or answer.
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are questions_ being raised.. that we
These questions have been raised in
no purpose to raise them here when we
it. -
Alderman Parker stated his reasons for requesting the second
resolution. He asked if the Council feels the potential problem
this could create on theBeaverLake water reservoir, which,we
depend on, constitutes enough of a threat that we want to send a.
message to the DPC&E so that when they consider this stay on
Friday they know where we stand. It is a"strong message but gets
at the crux of the issues and lends added weight to the request
todeny the stay.
Alderman Basset stated that -he
other on the second resolution
experts. He feels unqualified
resolution at this time.
would not vote one way or the
until he heard from citizens and
to make a judgement on. the second
Alderman Parker suggested that rather than vote on the second.
resolution,he would give a short statement at the. appropriate
time as to why he brought it up and then that resolution could -be
considered -at a later date at a regular meeting. .•
Alderman Williams called for the discussion to return to
first resolution at this time.
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Alderman Schaper asked. to. hear from the Four-County•SoLid,Waste.•
District: •
A woman in the audience was from the Four -County Solid Waste
District but was not prepared tospeak for them. She stated
several times that Drew Holt was the one .who could comment:
Mayor Hanna stated -that the Four -County: Solid Waste -District took
the position that they did not want to change the two-mile limit
that was set up by the Quorum Court to restrict landfills to
within two miles of the White River. As,far as he could -recall
at this time, there was no official position.
Jan Judy, White River EPA, commented that Sunray is now in court
suing the Four -County Solid Waste District to allow them to have
a single liner versus a -double liner.
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Alderman Williams stated that the resolution regarding the stay
is appropriate and moved that the resolution be adopted by the
City Council. Alderman Parker seconded.
Alderman Schaper pointed out that according to the language in
Sunray's request to modify the stay, they want to do drainage
improvements, clearing and grubbing, road construction,
preliminary site earthwork, etc., and did not seek permission to
begin landfill construction or waste disposal. They are
requesting to do a very substantial amount of the work that needs
to be done on that site. He agreed there is no rush and
supported letting the process work and people be heard.
Mayor Hanna said this resolution is straightforward without the
implications the second one has.
Alderman Bassett stated that one of the concerns he had about all
of this is making sure we don't get in an area where we don't
belong and that we don't do something to get crossways with the
other governments who are part of this regional effort. He has
no problem with the first resolution though he wished he had more
time to think about it, having read the resolution just before
the meeting. However, he would vote for it as it will do no real
harm to anyone.
Alderman Williams noticed that the attorney from Sunray was
concerned about the Council considering a resolution opposing the
Durham landfill application, which this first resolution does
not. He did agree that the second resolution called for a much
weightier decision and should be made in conjunction with our
neighbors.
Alderman Parker said that the automatic stay that goes into
effect when an appeal like this is taken is a good protective
device. To go around that, to seek to give Sunray an unusual
privilege not normally allowed, is a bad idea. He will vote for
this.
Alderman Young stated that he had a big problem with the process,
a meeting called at the last moment. This is what we were trying
to get away from when we changed the form of government. The
Council had spoken of letting the people speak and letting the
process work, but the City of Fayetteville is circumventing the
process.
Alderman Parker said the reason for the short notice was because
the hearing is scheduled for Friday.
Alderman Schaper said this clearly is an emergency. If they can
lift this stay on Friday, it does not leave us a regular council
meeting in which to act.
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Jan Judy, from the audience, stated that notification was
received last Tuesday.
Alderman Parker stated he did tot know about it until Saturday.
He stated this Council does not abuse the act of calling special..
meetings.
Alderman Bassett stated the bottom line is that the decision
Friday will be made by the DPC&E This is only an expression of
intent on our part.
Mayor Hanna called for a vote.
Upon roll call, the resolution passed on a vote of 6 to 0.
- RESOLUTION 144-95 AS RECORDED IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE,
Mayor Hanna asked for Alderman Parker's comments on the second
resolution.
Alderman Parker stated that if you are talking about somewhere
like Tucson or Phoenix it is easy to see that the need for water
controls the artificial island of humanity in an area that is
arid. In talking about Fayetteville and Northwest Arkansas, you
have many of the same considerations. Though because of the
water available from Beaver Lake, we canignore the fact that we
are in an area that does not receive enough annual rainfall to
support the level of population we have. We rely solely on
Beaver Lake for our water, we need to go the extra two miles to
ensure that we protect that from possible compromise by the
leakage of waste from a facility on Hobbs Mountain. The ' - -
potential for that should be evaluated by us. If we were to
compromise the integrity of drawing water off of Beaver Lake, we
would be in pitiful condition because the alternative sources of
water that we once used are no longer available. He asked that
the 4 -County Solid Waste and other municipalities consider this
issue with Fayetteville to see if we want to put our weight on
the side of protecting the water supply of all of Northwest
Arkansas.
Mayor Hanna stated the Beaver Lake Water District has been
opposed to this landfill since day one. He feels this second
resolution calls for action that should take place in another
forum. He expressed appreciation for all the people present
today but stated today's meeting is not a public hearing.',.'.`
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Jennifer Hanson, from the audience, stated that several mayor
things have changed since the permit was approved. One change is
that Sunray was purchased by another company in August, prior to
the permit issuance. This company was never scrutinized
publicly. It is a whole new ball game. There are numerous
issues to be educated about regarding the permit issuance. It
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would have been a done deal if they were still dealing with all
the original facts and players. It is a brand new company with a
new background which is highly suspect. She encouraged the
Council to take another look at it as its comments carry great
weight.
Alderman Williams agreed with the Mayor that the Council's
comments should be directed to the Four -County Solid Waste
District.
Alderman Parker withdrew the second resolution from
consideration.
Mayor Hanna stated that he would talk to the Four -County Solid
Waste District and to their attorney in relation to the lawsuit
that's been filed.
Alderman Williams was glad to see the Council vote unanimously on
resolution one.
OTHER BUSINESS
Mayor Hanna asked if there was any other business before this
special meeting.
ALDERMAN PARKER - APOLOGY
Alderman Parker stated for the record regarding the lawsuit
brought against him by Thad Hanna that he was incorrect in
thinking and stating to the Mayor that the land Thad Hanna
requested to be vacated was being used as a parking lot. He
apologized for this.
The special meeting adjourned at 4:15 p.m