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MINUTES OF A MEETING OF THE CITY COUNCIL
A meeting of the Fayetteville City Council was held on Tuesday,
November 21, 1995, at 6:30 p.m., in the Council Room, of the City
Administration Building, 113 W. Mountain, Fayetteville, Arkansas.
PRESENT: Mayor Fred Hanna; Aldermen Cyrus Young, Woody Bassett,
Steve Parker, Jimmy Hill, Len Schaper, Heather Daniel
and Kit Williams; City Clerk/Treasurer Traci Paul; City
Attorney Jerry Rose; members of the staff, press, and
audience.
ABSENT: Alderman Stephen Miller
CALL TO ORDER
Mayor Fred Hanna called the meeting to order with seven aldermen
present.
PRESENTATION
Mayor Hanna presented the Distinguished Citizen Award to Ray
Ellis. Hanna stated Mr. Ellis was the first airport manager at
Drake field, holding this job for 33 years while bringing
aviation to Fayetteville and Northwest Arkansas. Since moving to
Fayetteville in 1940, Mr. Ellis has been involved with almost
everything having to do with airplanes and aviation in this
region. Mr. Ellis is the third person to receive this award.
Mr. Ellis thanked Mayor Hanna for this honor and accepted
congratulations from the Council.
SYMPATHY
Mayor Hanna expressed his sadness at the passing of another
distinguished citizen, Doctor Franklin Williams. He offered
condolences to Alderman Williams for the loss of his father.
OLD BUSINESS
Mayor Hanna stated that items A and B were either taken off the
CIP plan under the street program or changes were made or
discussed in the Street Committee meeting. These items require a
vote to be put back on the CIP.
A. A resolution approving a budget adjustment and awarding a
bid for the reconstruction of Rockcliff Drive from Hyland
Park Drive to Cliffside Drive.
The Council Street Committee voted unanimously to recommend the
project, which was pulled from the CIP for further consideration.
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Alderman Williams, chairman of the,Street Committee, reiterated
that the committee did vote unanimously for this. It originally
was to be in-house..paving project; then.the street. suffered
more damage before it could be repayed. Now the staff believes
it needs to be totally reconstructed, and that is why_it,is.
before the Council.
Williams, seconded by Parker, moved that the Council pass the
budget adjustment and resolution and;that this be awarded to .
begin construction. Upon roll call the motion passed on a vote
of 7 to O.
RESOLUTION 140-95 AS RECORDED IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE ti
B. Street Committee Recommendations
a. The Council Street Committee.voted 3 to 1, with
Alderman Parker voting no, to recommend keeping the
$245,000 cost sharing agreement with the Cliffs in the
1996 CIP to enlarge the reciuired street into a
boulevard and four lane road.
Mayor Hanna'stated this was pulled from the CIP to give the
Street Committee opportunity to discuss it.
Alderman Williams, speaking for himself and not necessarily for
the other committee members, stated his belief that this is.a
good project. He favors constructing boulevards through
residential areas as they are advantageous and beautiful. This
is a continuation of a boulevard already begun with cost sharing
by the City. If the City wants enhanced streets, like
boulevards, it is only fair for the City to pay a cost-sharing
part of it. Therefore, he supports this $245,000 in cost
sharing, which raises the street from the level of a single,
regular, local street to the size of a boulevard.
Alderman Parker
.265, one.of our
from Highway 45
'.still"unfunded.
would be to buy
stated he is a strong supporter of seeing Highway
main arteries, expanded. Expanding Highway 265
to Springdale is on various timetables but is
A way to increase the speed of getting this done
the right-of-way.
Parker further stated that extending this boulevard would
essentially serve a single development. The additional City
funds expended on this project would make up about -25o of the
money.it would take to accelerate the development of the northern
stretch of Highway. 265. He would rather see that money goto the
citizens of Fayetteville in general and help solve the traffic
problem on Highway 265.
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Alderman Bassett stated his belief that this boulevard would
relieve some of the pressure on Highway 265 and Highway 16, and
he agreed with Alderman Williiams' comments. Alderman Bassett
explained he would not back out of a previously made commitment.
Alderman Daniel explained she would consider seriously committing
the City to a situation like this again because there are other
places where boulevards would be much showier, like gateways into
the city. She stated her support of the commitment already made
in this case, but in the future would likely not vote for cost
sharing in a situation like this.
Alderman Schaper stated his concerns by recalling his objections
to the arches over the road where it meets 265. After the last
agenda setting meeting, he looked in the subdivision regulations
to see how this kind of structure would be allowed. He asked
Alett Little, City Planning Director, if there was specific
action by the Planning Commission that permitted these arches to
be built
Little replied that this was not an item shown on the plans, nor
did it go before Planning Commission.
Alderman Schaper read two definitions from the subdivision
regulations:
Street:
A strip of land including the entire right-
of-way intended primarily as a means of
vehicular and pedestrian travel which may
also be used to provide space for sewers,
public utilities, trees, and sidewalks.
He noted it didn't say anything about arches.
Setback Lines:
A line on a plat generally parallel to the
street right-of-way indicating the limit
beyond which buildings or structures may not
be erected except as provided in ordinances.
Alderman Schaper stated the arch is a structure built
right-of-way, which is against the definitions in the
ordinances. This gives this street the appearance of
private entrance; therefore, he cannot support giving
money to beautify a street that has all the trappings
private entrance.
on the City
subdivision
being a
public
of a
Alderman Williams stated this needs to be looked at in our
definitions. These sorts of structures should go before the
Planning Commission. However, what's done is done. There was
nothing in there which said if you have an arch you must go
before the Planning Commission. These sorts of beautifications
in various places were handled by City staff, and maybe now we
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need to have the Planning Commission do it. This street is.on
our Master Street Plan and is clearly a way that will relieve
pressure on the intersection of 265 and 16: This is a. public
street -and this year with this money it will be built through.
Williams stated he would like to see the City do this in other
places. If the City wants boulevards, it must be willing to
spend money in cost-sharing agreements with developers so that
when streets are built, they can be made as beautiful as
possible.
Mayor Hanna stated that during subdivision meetings the entryways
should be included. The staff did go out and look at the
entrances of a number of subdivisions. Many of them have the
name of the subdivision on some sort of structure placed in the
center of the boulevard, which is in the right-of-way. The
Planning Commission may need to take a look at the entrances when
they come through plat review. Some decisions may need to be
made about what is allowed.
Alderman Hill asked for a report from the staff regarding.the -
policy on this.
Kevin Crosson replied that they are not reviewed. The right-of-
way is there when needed and any landscaping or structure is
removed. Such improvements are placed there at the owner's risk.
The owner uses them to sell lots, and the City treats them as
beautification projects and has no review process at this time.
Alett Little stated that within subdivisions, owners are free to
plant trees or landscape within the right-of-way and do so at
their own risk. The City is not in the position of approving
each of these situations, and it does not want the responsibility
of having to pay if it needs to use the area.
Alderman Parker asked if the City had approved this one.
remembered seeing an approval of this.
Mayor Hanna replied that the developer had asked if this wouldebe
all right.
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Alderman Young suggested to Ms. Little that she take the Mayor's
advice and add this to the checklist. +}4
Little replied she would gladly do this if this is what. the
Council wants. The Planning Commission would need to know what
the Council wants before bringing forth a policy..
Crosson stated the City has no vested interest in the subdivision
and can do it or not do it.
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Alderman Schaper stated he sees a big difference between a sign
with some minimal structure that supports the sign in the median
and a major structure like a guardhouse, arch, etc. A line must
be drawn somewhere.
Ms. Little asked
a certain square
entrances.
if the regulation should state that nothing over
footage would be allowed at subdivision
Alderman Schaper wondered
the sign ordinance.
Little stated it does but
not.
if an
brick
entrance sign would come under
walls do not and landscaping does
In response to a question from Schaper, Crosson said some walls
are built in the right-of-way and some are not. Many tend to
come up to the edge of the right-of-way.
Alderman Schaper stated his belief that in general structures
should be kept out of the right-of-way. The right-of-way is for
sidewalks, trees, landscaping, medians, maybe for a sign, but not
for structures. Structures belong behind setback lines, as the
subdivision ordinance says.
Mayor Hanna stated that some have water features.
In answer to a question from Alderman Hill, Mayor Hanna stated
The Cliffs has no sign.
Alderman Hill asked City Attorney Jerry Rose to see if the City
has any liability on things like this that are approved by the
City.
Attorney Rose could not say that there was any high degree of
liability. Rose stated the case law pertaining to this generally
has to do with encroachments into rights -of -ways. The general
rule is that the encroachment appears to be allowable if
permitted by the City and can be regulated by the City, but under
no circumstances can the City use the right-of-way and limit the
people's access to a particular street.
Alderman Hill asked if the boulevard would only go through the
Cliffs and then turn back into a two way street all the way to
Happy Hollow?
Alderman Williams answered that even with this amount of money,
there are no plans to enlarge the boulevard. It will be a four -
lane road down to Happy Hollow. There is no money to upgrade
Happy Hollow, which is now a two-lane road. It would make sense
to enlarge Happy Hollow as it develops. It is built up from
Fourth Street, so we wouldn't be looking at a boulevard there;
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but that doesn't mean we wouldn'teventuallyexpand it to a, four-
lane road.
In response to Alderman Hill, Kevin Crosson stated widening this
road is an unfunded project in the CIP.
Alderman Hill expressed his concern that if we can't project that
it will ever go anywhere, we'll just be funneling it down to a
two-lane road.
Crosson explained this was done as a planned event. It was
discussed three years ago in an effort to provide relief at the
intersection of 16 and 265. That is thereasonwe asked the
developer to upgrade that to a four -lane road.
In response to a question from Alderman Hill, Crosson stated the
City would pay the difference.
Alderman Williams stated the developer was giving the City more
land'`while paying the same amount. The City would,pay the
additional costs of the boulevard, which he favors.
°•4 -In response to a question from Alderman Hill, Perry Franklin,
City Traffic Superintendent; stated that the City would put:
.street:signs up on public streets but not on private ones and
"signs which need to be changed to City standards will. be changed.
Alderman Hill stated he would like to see a."through street" sign
put up because it is not obvious.
Alderman Daniel stated she feels the arches are attractive and
she appreciates the developers wanting to do something:;nice.
However, she feels entryways should be reviewed.
Alderman -,Parker asked Little if this boulevard was in fact a
collector rather than a minor arterial as .stated before.
Alderman Williams said that at one point it was an arterial but
was moved down to a collector to convince the State highway
department how vital it was that 265 was four -lane.
Little stated that the change was made at the request of the
highway. department. .She had furnished a.copy of the 1985 Master.
Street Plan and the State rioted that the principal arterial at
that time did follow this route and connect with Happy Hollow and
said this would affect funding on 265, so we changed it.
Alderman Parker commented thatit was noted that the developer
was required to donate additional right -of. -way, but only required„
to fund a 31' street, just as they would if it were a -much, k
smaller development with :less traffic. 4 ,i_,
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Alderman Parker explained that in the future he would try to
bring to the Street Committee something that will proportionately
increase the developer's contribution for the road.
Mayor Hanna opened the discussion to the audience. There were no
comments from the public.
Alderman Williams, seconded be Daniel, moved that the $245,000
cost-sharing agreement with the Cliffs be added back to the 1996
CIP project list. Upon roll call the motion passed on a vote of
5 to 2, with Parker and Schaper voting no.
b. The Council Street Committee voted 3 to 1, with
Alderman Parker voting no, to recommend moving the
$368,000 Steele property bridge cost sharing from 1996
to 1997 in the CIP list.
Alderman Williams explained that the committee took that action
because they would probably not need this money next year. This
money would expand the bridge size from a two-lane bridge, which
they are required to build at their own cost, to a four -lane
bridge. The difference is much less if you do it at the front-
end as opposed to going back after it's built and making it
bigger. If things change and they move faster than planned, we
may need to find the money because we want to make it a four -lane
bridge when it's built.
Alderman Parker stated that he voted against that as he felt it
should be struck altogether. Again, this is about a third of the
money necessary for the 265 project. The developers have told
the Council that it will take two years to build this road and
bridge from the time they decide to do it. They have said they
will not do it until they have buyers for the land between Joyce'
Street and the access road to the south. So we have a two-year
window to allocate the money for this project from when they
decide to do it. Parker would rather take this money and put it
into a fund for 265. This money added to the money from the
previous project is over half of what would be needed. That is
why he would vote against moving it to the 1997 CIP list.
The Mayor asked for comments from the audience. There were none.
Bassett, seconded by Williams, made a motion to move the $368,000
from the 1996 to the 1997 CIP. Upon roll call, the motion passed
6 to 1, with Parker voting no.
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c The Council Street Committee took no action concerning..
Alderman Williams' suggestion to change the four -lane
road running south out of the Cliffs subdivision into
Happy Hollow Road from the current four -lane road into
a divided boulevard. The estimated cost increase for
this 800' segment is $50,000.
Alderman Williams made brief comments asking his fellow aldermen
to think about this as it will not have to be addressed until the
budget is considered. He stated he favors spending the money to
change a four -lane road into an attractive boulevard. This would
be a start, and in the future the Council can plan ahead to spend
20% more of the cost of a four -lane road to put in a boulevard.
Alderman Daniel stated that while boulevards are great, the City;
has so many needs with little CIP money to spread around.i ',
$50,000 doesn't seem like a lot, but there are other -urgent
needs
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The Mayor asked for comments from the audience. There were -none..
d. The Council Street Committee requested cost estimates
and potential benefits. from City staff concerning 74 -
purchasing
purchasing right-of-way and moving utilities- for. the
widening of Highway 265 from. Highway 45 to Joyce
Street.
Kevin Crosson stated that the staff isworking on that. They .
have done estimates in the past on right-of-way which were around
the $2 million mark. It is staff's understanding that the 265
project is part of the Governor's bond issue, so it may be
prudent to see how that comes out before. the City'commits•itself.
Mayor Hanna stated that if the Governor's bond issue passes, it
will be moved ahead.
Crosson said it was his understanding that they have to have the
contracts committed in seven years and spend the money.
Alderman Williams asked if that would be dependent on the City
buying the right-of-way.
Crosson answered that is not staff's understanding.
Alderman Bassett stated the bond issue also includes notonly
widening and right-of-way of 265, but also Highway. 16 West and
Highway 45.
Mayor Hanna stated that if the bond issue passes, the City .would
be throwing away money to buy the right-of-way.
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Alderman Schaper commented that it may be necessary to buy
additional right-of-way in order to make that a boulevard, which
he would support.
Alderman Parker concurred that that would be a good place for a
boulevard.
Alderman Parker stated that he'd gotten his figures regarding the
cost of right-of-way from Charles Venable, who had worked with
the highway department. Mr. Venable was the one who gave him the
figure of $1 million to $1.25 million for Highway 45 to the
Springdale border.
Regarding the bond issue, Parker stated he thought the Council
would give the Street Committee a rough estimate and ask the
highway department whether or not they would be favorable to the
idea of a job similar to what the City did in the south.
Mr. Venable stated that he did not believe the highway department
would respond at this time until they know how the bond issue is
voted on January 9. The City will know for sure and have time
after that to proceed on this.
C. Incinerator Case Settlement Discussion
Mayor Hanna stated that City Attorney Rose wanted all the
aldermen present for a vote. Because of illness, one alderman is
absent from this meeting.
Rose stated that settlements are not an attorney's decision, but
rather a client's decision. As representatives of citizens of
Fayetteville, the Council must decide what the client wants to
do. Rose and attorneys for the plaintiffs, Dale Evans and Kent
Hirsch, were available for questions.
In response to a question from Alderman Hill, Evans said this is
a contingency case and not paid for by the hour.
Hirsch added that the approximate number of hours the team has
worked is 10,000 and personally he has worked 3,300 plus.
Alderman Hill asked if they planned to submit to the court an
amount of hours and Hirsch replied that if they have a contested
battle, they will submit them.
Alderman Williams compared this to how much the City paid to its
attorneys who worked on an hourly basis and estimated the total
amount, including the trustee's counsel, to be about $2.7
million.
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Alderman Bassett commented on
that' -the trustee's lawyer has
years ago by the City. Not a
has had any ability to change
the amount of the attorney .fees,
been paid, -which was locked, in
single person on the Council now
that.
Alderman Hill said the staff -had explained to him that the City
had actually spent $1.3 on attorney fees. The other was taken
without our acceptance. Some miscellaneous fees were paid to the
Council for copying documents.
Alderman Williams stated that what the City has actually paid is
$2,682,000. Some of this was spent on the FOI lawsuit, some was
spent prior to the lawsuit, and some was spent on the trustee's
counsel, but it all was for attorney fees. This is what the City
has paid for attorneys working against the plaintiff's attorneys.
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Alderman Hill stated again that in defenseof this lawsuit the
City has paid approximately $1.3 to $1.4 million, according to
staff.
Mayor Hanna stated that $800,000 was taken out and,held in trust.
Alderman Hill stated this money was not used to defend this
lawsuit.
Disagreeing, Mayor Hanna asked City Attorney Rose to clarify -:this
question.
Rose stated it had been paid to Larry Burkes of Friday Law Firm.
Alderman Hill said he understood that it was the Northwest
Arkansas Recovery Authority who got the $815,000..
Ben Mayes, Administrative Services Director, stated they
represented Union National Bank, which is a trustee of the
Northwest Arkansas Resource Recovery Authority Bond. That money
was deducted.
Mayes further commented that the City has paid $372,000 to the
Niblock Law Firm; we have paid $1,131,000 to McDermott, Will &
Emery; we paid $296,723 to.Nixon, Hargrave, Devons & Doyle before
the lawsuit was ever filed; Jim Rose was paid $64,806;.$815,081
was paid to trustee's counsel. This totals $2,680,000. Since
the date the lawsuit was filed, this Council has approved
payments of approximately $1,567,000 of the total..
Attorney Hirsch commented that as a result.of his efforts andthe
victory at the Supreme Court, the bond fund for Larry Burkes's
fee will not. need to be paid. Another group of lawyers in New
York get paid between $300 to $600 an hour.
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Alderman Hill asked if Section 2.4 of the settlement, reimbursing
Katherine Barnhart $1,000, was required by law or not and would
she normally receive the same as others in an action like this.
Attorney Evans stated there is precedent for that. In many class
action lawsuits the class representatives have been authorized to
be reimbursed their expenses. They are not asking the City to
reimburse anything but have agreed to take it out of their money.
In answer to a question from Alderman Parker, Evans cited a
securities case in New York which was paid $5,000 a day.
Parker asked if class representatives weren't usually compensated
at the level that the regular class members were.
Evans responded that if that was causing difficulty, he would be
glad to not have it in there and the money would go to his firm.
Attorney Evans responded to a question from Alderman Hill
regarding third -party lawsuits. He stated they don't believe the
City has the right to bring an action against the other
individuals at this point, that would be their own lawsuit. They
have agreed not to do that and to supply the City all the
information, research, and expertise the City cares to have.
They want to end the litigation as far as it deals with the
government against the people. They want to be on the same side
as the City. This settlement brings their cooperation.
Alderman Hill stated he did not see the advantage to the City
because once the settlement is made all papers are under FOIA.
Attorney Evans disagreed with this as they do not represent the
City government.
Alderman Bassett stated that the City has hired a good lawyer and
if we settle this Evans and Hirsch will give the City access to
any information it would be interested in for the pursuit of
third -party claims.
Evans stated they are not trying to represent the City or say
that the City needs any of their information or that Mr. Patton
needs help; they are merely willing to assist if asked.
Alderman Williams said that even assuming the information this
law firm has falls under FOIA, there is a big difference between
just being given access to the documents and being given actual
input based on the experience they've gained.
City Attorney Rose doubted that this would fall under the FOIA.
Attorney Evans guaranteed it's not FOI if there's no settlement
agreement reached.
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In response to a question from Alderman Young, Katherine Barnhart_
replied that she is in favor of this settlement. She added,that
the total days she would be compensated for is 11.
In response to a question about additional attorney fees from.
Alderman Young, Evans replied that although the. City had charged
them for everything they requested, they would not do that to the
City.
Attorney Hirsch made comments regarding the mutual cooperation
aspect of this agreement. They have a retired judge, George
Cracraft, who is incensed by the insurance company and the way
the City has been treated. He is very interested in
participating in the completion of this case "on the house."
Alderman Bassett stated that Jerry Rose has recommendedthis.
settlement and has done a good job of presenting it to us. The.
incinerator issue has been a political, financial, and legal
nightmare that needs to be put behind us. The Council should
not forget that the third -party claims and the claims.. against the
City still remain and should be resolved'as soon as possible to
end this episode.
Regarding the settlement offer, Alderman Bassett stated that he
does not believe that any lawyer or group of lawyers is worth
$2.5 million, although he respects the attorneys who have worked
on this case. He does not believe the fudge would award a fee as
high as proposed in thissettlement, but there is a risk. If
either side appealed this case on the amount of the fee, it would
continue to drag on. He will hold his nose and vote for this as,
in the long run, it is in the best interest of the City to get it
over with.
Alderman Daniel stated the winners were really the losers in this
case .as the City would have been better off with the incinerator:
Alderman Parker appreciated the remarks by Bassett and Daniel and
agreed all are tired of the game. However, since the Council is
dealing with taxpayers money, the game is not over yet.
Alderman Parker stated that normally Evans and Hirsch would get
one-fourth to one-third of .the kitty and if we say -that it is
$4.5 million, that would give them about $1.12 .to $1.5 million;
but their argument is that it a much larger amount than that
and that they could ask for as much as $5 million.. Alderman
Parker explained he looked into that argument and found too
little chance of that happening to vote for the settlement.
Parker explained he supports a remedy based on,an-illegal
exactions case, rather than accepting the proposal -or even
thinking that the court will favor a proposal based on a
contracts remedy.
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Parker disagreed with what should happen to the surplus funds.
He stated that under this agreement, $2.5 million would go to the
team of attorneys that battled this out and $2 million would be
restored to the ratepayers. If the City cannot find some of the
ratepayers and that money comes back, the plan is to give that
money to the General Fund. Parker stated he thinks the money
from unidentified ratepayers should be distributed out and
supplement the amount the others get back. Since the City of
Fayetteville was found to be in the wrong, he feels it should
restore every penny it can to the citizens.
Alderman Parker stated he would vote against this settlement
because he believes the court will award $1.12 to $1.5 million
instead of the $2.5 million.
Alderman Bassett read from Arkansas Code regarding cases like
this which stated unclaimed money goes back to the General Fund.
Parker agreed with this but restated his preference for the City
to return every penny to the citizens.
Mayor Hanna stated that all City monies do belong to the citizens
and go back to them in the form of services or infrastructure,
etc.
Alderman Williams responded to Parker's suggestion by saying it
would be easy to vote against this settlement but since we are
not merely playing with taxpayer money here, we must be careful
with it. If we guess wrong here then we are risking a lot of
taxpayer money. This is a point City Attorney Rose brought home.
Originally, the figures that the ratepayers' attorneys were
demanding were totally out of line.
Williams agreed with Bassett that this has been a long festering
sore and that we need to put it behind us. If a settlement is
not agreed to, the ratepayers won't get anything for another year
or so. He wondered if the City really lost. The citizens of
Fayetteville, if the suits against the City are not successful,
are not going to have to pay the more than $16 million that they
would have had to pay if we had won. When there was a contract
that we were paying under, that makes it a contract action. When
the Supreme Court said that was a void contract, that doesn't
mean the action is no longer a contract action. It means the
people saying the contract was bad won and we lost. To be
responsible with our General Fund, to protect against the chance
that the Supreme Court would award the larger amount, is
reasonable. The lawsuit can be ended now with money we have
without putting a serious crimp in our finances. Accepting the
settlement is the only reasonable, though difficult, thing go do
so we can resolve this and go forward.
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Alderman Hill stated that by accepting this settlement, the City.
is taking it out of the judge's'. hands, although he would still.
have to approve it. We are being asked to pay a 60°% settlement
fee on a $4 million lawsuit. Research by City Attorney Rose has
showed that -across the country settlements have been 15% to 500
and we are being asked to pay over 50% plus interest because the
only thing decided by the courts is the $4 million settlement.
The contract issue has not been heard.
Alderman Williams remarked that in the most recent case:.the{City
was involved with, Mr. Lisle got two-thirds of all the moneyf
twice as much as all the refunds combined, based on the higher_,.
figure just like they might get in this case. •f
Alderman Hill disagreed that they could base it on the higher
figure in this case without.our attorneys.. keeping this in court
for another year or so. It is not a reasonable action for this-'
judge to make.
Alderman Bassett stated that he understands what Evans and -
Hirsch's theory is and frankly disagrees with it. However, he is
unwilling to gamble on what the courts would find and wants to go
on.
Alderman Hill stated that the calls he's received from citizens
oft this issue were overwhelmingly against settling. Only one
wanted to settle; -the majority were outraged at the amount of the
fee, even with the chance of the courts ruling against us.•
Alderman. Bassett agreed that he, too, does not like'it; but,the
citizens are not chargedwith the responsibility of making.a
decision that may be painful but would be best in the long run.
Alderman Hill stated he wanted to. listen to his constituents and
weigh that in his decision. He does not want tospendthe
taxpayers money on the small chance something might happen.:
Alderman Young claimed his title as resident trOUblemaker:0 When -
he was a member of the audience and'not on the Council, he spoke
to the incinerator issue. The Council is talking about who won
and lost; but the best way to look_at itis as a .learning ,
experience; a tragic one. If the City had held a hearing on -this
..issue early on; the citizens could have asked questions that
possibly would have caused the City to rethink,their decision.
In retrospect, what the citizens did in voting to•pull•out of the
incinerator was the cheapest way t�getout'of it- The citizens
L he -has spoken with regarding this settlement have all said they
don't like it. One in particular was Very knowledgeable about
the incinerator and finally advised accepting the settlement i
,,.because it limits our liability. Young -stated he will vote in
favor of this settlement.
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Alderman Hill had a question based on remarks made by City
Attorney Rose at the last meeting when he said if we don't settle
this and a fudge ruled to a fee that the attorneys didn't accept
and appealed to the Supreme Court, we would be talking about
hundreds of thousands of dollars to defend this. Alderman Hill
asked where this amount came from.
Attorney Rose responded that if they successfully appeal an
award, their attorney fees are still running. Under that
circumstance, they would be paid for those additional hours. If
we win, we would not be out more attorney fees.
Alderman Hill wanted that clarified. We would be out more money
only if these attorneys prevailed.
Alderman Williams noted for the record that the people who had
contacted him regarding this issue wanted to settle and get it
resolved. No one wanted to reject the settlement.
Alderman Bassett mentioned for the record that he had one phone
call in two weeks from someone concerned about the amount of
attorney fees. After discussion, this citizen agreed ending it
now is the best option. Since no one was contacting him,
Alderman Bassett began asking people for their opinions. All
supported getting it over with.
Alderman Williams stated it is the Council's decision. He had .a
few people contact him, but certainly no ground swell.
Attorney Hirsch stated that the Supreme Court addressed the
issue on the contract and ruled the contract was void from the
start. They determined this type of contract is not enforceable
in Arkansas, so the issue of the validity of the contract has
already been decided.
Regarding the earlier comment that $16 million doesn't have to be
paid, Hirsch said a tax paying entity that has a cancellation of
indebtedness has a taxable debt. The IRS says that it is a
benefit and you have to pay taxes on it.
On the
Milsap
rule.
to the
be the
theory,
issue of the economic benefit, Hirsch made reference to
vs. Lang that plainly specifies the substantial benefit
In that case the court awarded 78% of the economic benefit
lawyers and said the upper limit of recovery of fees would
total economic benefit. Based on the economic benefit
he is asking for 16%.
Alderman Parker mentioned that the city attorney, while in favor
of the settlement agreement because it saves the City potential
liability, has in past discussions agreed that it is less than
likely that the court will find in favor of that particular
contract argument.
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The Mayor asked for further comment or. motion.
Alderman Williams moved that the Council,accept the settlement as
proposed by the City Attorney. Alderman Daniel seconded.. Upon.
roll call the motion passed on a vote of 5 to 2 with Parker and
Hill voting no.
RESOLUTION 141-95 AS RECORDED IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
`Alderman Parker noted that the absence of one. alderman had no
affect on the outcome of the vote, except for the influence his
arguments might have had.
CONSENT AGENDA
iMayor-Hanna introduced for consideration items which may be
approved by motion or contracts and leases which can be approved
by resolution and which may be grouped together and approved
simultaneously under a "Consent Agenda":
A. Minutes of the November 7 regular City Council meeting.
B. A resolution approving a grant application and
designating $44,467 as Local matching funds for the
continuation of the drug enforcement grant.
RESOLUTION 142-95 AS ON FILE IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE.
Young, seconded by Williams, made a motion to accept the consent
agenda.,: Upon roll call, the motion passed on a vote of 7.to'0.
AIRPORT EXPANSION PHASE II
Mayor. Hanna stated that he feels the cost is too high and
recommends itbe sent back to the airport board to find a way to
stay within the original proposal.
Dale Frederick, Airport Manager, was present and gave a history
of how the need for expansion was determined, evaluated, and:
analyzed by many professionals beginning in 1990.
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Frederick noted that this request was taken to the State
aeronautics commission when a bid came .in much more than was ..-v,
estimated and the commission awarded $60,000 to help fund.. this ?.J
facility. In answer to a question from Alderman Williams, - 44
Frederick said at the beginning oftheyear:they will collect;$3,,
per passenger and this money will be available to pay-for.this
project. Some adjustments need to be made in cash.floW.up,front' ,
then reimbursed as the money comes up. He anticipates nothing
happening in the near future to change that funding..
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Architect Richard Alderman reviewed the plan included in the
agenda packet and which he also had with him. Adding all the
numbers together equals about 3,750 sq. ft. at about $124 per sq.
ft. cost. Much of the cost is in the outside which can be backed
out to leave $110 per sq. ft. It may seem more than normal but
is reasonable for a mayor public building now. Seven bidders
gave a good representation of what this should cost.
Alderman Bassett asked why costs have doubled.
The architect answered that the figures hadn't been updated as
much as they should have and took responsibility for this.
Alderman Bassett acknowledged the need for this addition but
still found the increase in cost disturbing.
Frederick stated that the airport has been in a debt -free status
since 1992 because of the unanticipated growth of the airport.
Mayor Hanna stated he has been hearing that the passenger fees at
the new airport will not be competitive and we've been trying to
figure out how to keep Drake Field a commuter type airport. Yet
we talk about adding $3 fees bringing us closer to what they are
at the regional airport.
Alderman Parker
off by the time
addition to the
operating costs
noted that
the larger
surcharges
to recover.
the $3 we add hopefully will be paid
airport opens for business. In
they may put on, they will have
Our airport is paid for and theirs
is not, so we will still be better off financially if we accept
this fee now to put ourselves in the best competitive position
when the new airport opens its doors.
Alderman Williams agreed with the Mayor in that we must make sure
we are competitive in the future and also agreed with Parker that
we'll have this paid for and have a nice facility when competing
with the new airport. If this were a bigger project for a longer
term, he would not favor it. However, since it can be paid off
quickly, despite the doubling in cost, he believes it is
something the airport needs to remain competitive.
Mayor Hanna stated that the airlines will be making their
decisions next year, not the day after the new airport opens.
They will be examining these charges now.
Alderman Schaper stated that from experience he is aware that
there has been an outrageous escalation in construction costs in
this area. He does not find $100 to $110 per sq. ft. at all out
of line in today's market.
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Schaper said he understands the PFC game is being played by more•
and more airports around the country as a way to fund operations.
If we are not in this game, we really short change ourselves. He
agreed with the Mayor in that even if we do hold onto our airline
traffic after the new airport opens, we won't need an airport
capable of carrying 240,000 passengers a year, then we'll have an
over -built airport. However, in terms of livability with what we
have, this is a good plan, though in a few years we may be over
built.
Alderman Daniel stated she thinks this project is worth the
investment with what construction costs are now and is in favor
of this.
Alderman Bassett stated he will vote for this having been
persuaded that the addition is needed and can be paid back
quickly. In the future, he will be very reluctant to vote for
anything with this kind of increase.
Mayor Hanna asked for comments from the audience. There were
none.
Hill, seconded
roll call, the
by Young, moved to accept the resolution. Upon
resolution passed on a vote of 7 to 0.
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RESOLUTION 143-95 AS RECORDED IN THE CITY CLERK'S OFFICE
GENERALNPLAN 2020 DISCUSSION
Tim iConklin, Associate Planner for the City, referred to the
draft of general plan 2020 and draft 5 of the future land use
plan given at the aldermen. The Planning Commission voted. 6 •t� 1
to adopt the plan on November 13, 1995. Under consideration is
both the text and map. It is a policy document. The revised
comprehensive land use plan is in response to Resolution 13-95
which directed planning staff and the commission to develop a new
future comprehensive land use plan. The future land use map has
been revised from the 2010 plan, from four categories to twelve.
It includes special flood hazard areas'as delineated by FEMA.
Also attached to the plan are the State planning statutes,
Resolution 13-95, and responses from questionnaires sent to
utilities. A summary of the changes to draft 3 of the revised
comprehensive land use plan was also included.
Conklin stated that the Planning Commission and staff have
provided numerous opportunities for the public to give input on
the plan and the map. Seven public meetings and hearings were
held over the last five months. Notification of the availability
for review of the 2020 plan was sent out with every water bill.
The future land use map was published twice in local newspapers.
Copies of the maps and plans are 'available for review in the
planning office, library, and City Clerk's office.
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Conklin went through the plan to explain how it is put together.
He also used overheads to show the progression of the plans, the
guiding principles of the 2010 plan, the future land use map,
projections of future land use, etc. He reminded the Council
that the Planning Commission has adopted this document. Any
changes made should be voted on by the Council.
Alderman Schaper thanked the planning staff and Conklin in
particular for the work done on this. He called attention to the
population figures on page 24 of the document. The current
projection is 71,000 by the year 2010. The old plan projected
55,000 people. Out of date population projections were used in
the 2010 plan which is why it was essential to do a new plan.
Schaper suggested putting this on the agenda for the next meeting
for further discussion and to give the public opportunity to
comment on the plan.
Alderman Parker thanked the planning staff and the many people
who have worked towards this plan. He noted that no one has
asked whether or not the projected growth is desired. Stating he
was not taking a no -growth position, he felt the question should
be asked and the consequences of the growth we are encouraging
should be considered.
Alderman Young thanked the citizens who participated in the
hearings; the planning department for their efforts; and the
Planning Commission, particularly praising them regarding the
hillside provisions as there was an effort to take that out of
the plan. He cautioned that this is a guide, not an ironclad
document. It is an ongoing process. This resolution says the
next major revision will be in the year 2000. He envisions a
review every five years with a major overhaul in 20 years or so.
Conklin said the intent of the resolution was to not call for a
major revision every year. Young suggested the wording may need
to be changed.
In answer to a question from Alderman Williams, Conklin said
questionnaire data was summarized in chapter five.
Alderman Williams noted on the Parks questionnaire, the Walker
Park Senior Citizen Center is not mentioned. This questionnaire
may need to be updated in light of the passage of the new tax.
In answer to a question from the Mayor, Alett Little said this
was not presented with the expectation of a vote tonight. There
is no schedule for adopting the plan. Little explained she would
like for the Council to take action by the end of 1995.
The Mayor asked for other comments. There being none, it was
decided to add this to Old Business on the next agenda.
November 21, 1995
FOUR-WAY STOP
The Mayor stated that Alderman Parker had asked that this be
tabled while he gathers more information.
Alderman Parker agreed he would like to add this to Old Business
for the next meeting in order to give Perry Franklin time to
discover if a four-way stop at Leverett and Sycamore would meet
the City's criteria for traffic needs.
PROCEDURE FOR ELECTING ALDERMEN
City Attorney Rose read the ordinance for the first time.
Alderman Bassett stated that in 1992 the Council was asked to
vote on making elections by ward, at large, or some combination
of this. The vote was 7 to 1 with him casting the dissenting
vote. He still feels the best thing for Fayetteville is for each
ward to have one alderman elected from the ward and.anothert
alderman elected at large. This is not aimed at anyone currently
on the Council, nor is it meant to help anyone get reelected. He "
has chosen to bring this up now rather than next year, which is.
an election year. He believes strongly in having two members ,
from each ward. It is important to have aldermen inclined to
devote attention to the needs of a particular ward. This, gives
someone not in a position to conduct a city-wide campaign -the
opportunity to run just in a ward, opening the process td -More
people.
Bassett stated his overriding ,belief that citizens should have
the right to vote for five of their elected representatives at
each election rather than just two. Most of the decisions the
Council makes affect the whole town. Also, the next census will
put Fayetteville over the 50,000 population mark. This means
that Council terms will be for four years instead of two years.
Bassett stated that no person or group had asked him to bring
this forward. He believes inhis heart and mind this is the
fairest, most democratic way to elect our Council.
Bassett stated thattoo many times special interest groups
dominate issues. If five aldermen are elected at large, the
chances are better that the collective judgement of a town will
prevail. Again, he was not targeting any particular
organization.
Alderman Daniel commented that this may be a way for special
interest groups to control the council if -they could elect five
aldermen of their choice. However, it would also give citizens
who like the work of an alderman not in their ward the ability to
elect that person.
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In response to a question from Alderman Hill, Bassett said this
could be referred to the Ordinance Review Committee but feels
there is really no need to. He would like to see it go through
three readings then voted on at the second meeting in December.
Alderman Williams stated that though he was convinced
philosophically that this was right, he voted against it last
time because his constituents were against it. They wanted two
aldermen responsible only to them. He will listen to them again
as it is their choice.
Alderman Young made the point that one of the reasons for the
change of government was to close the wards so each ward could
vote on their own aldermen.
Alderman Bassett responded that this proposal in no way indicates
his dissatisfaction with this form of government. He believes
the mayor -council form of government is right for Fayetteville.
It can just be made better.
Alderman Schaper stated he was not sure what could be achieved in
terms of better representation. Fayetteville already has wards
five times bigger than what is needed to be a first-class city in
Arkansas. It would change how campaigns are run. It would be
possible to create a situation where most would want to run only
in their ward with only a few people running city wide. The
city-wide campaign would cost much more to run.
Alderman Bassett once again stated that no one is pushing him to
do this. Not wanting to bring it up in an election year and not
planning to run again himself, this is simply his last chance to
do it.
Alderman Daniel mentioned that there is one section of the city
with historically greater voter turnout representing a certain
mindset, which concerns her.
Alderman Parker answered for Ward 3, which has the highest voter
turnout. Stating that because the wards are now evenly divided
between numbers of voters, it provides a more balanced
representation than would be achieved with the proposed system.
Ward 3 does turn out more voters and they would have a higher
degree of influence. To turn it over to a city-wide election
allows big money control of the election. Unless he gets a lot
of opinions to the contrary, he would strongly oppose this as
being anti -democratic.
Alderman Williams hoped that the Council would not prey on
people's conspiracy theories in Fayetteville. He has run city
wide as others have. The numbers showed he ran the same in every
ward.
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Alderman Daniel explained she feels it is very different now than
when -611e and others ran the first time city wide. •Daniels stated
one reason she reacted so negatively to this is because.,of the
input'she has received from people who think they could have more
influence on the Council if there were more at -large positions.
Alderman Schaper noted it was interesting that position two
wasn't -considered for the at -large position. City. Attorney Rose
'replied he had used a State statute for this. Amendments could
be made.
The Mayor noted that there will be two more meetings to discuss
this or the people could vote on it.
Robert Reus stated that this ordinance is a step in the wrong
direction for several reasons. It will cost at least four times
as much to run for office. It will be impossible to canvass the
whole city. It can concentrate power from a single organization..
The present system is working.
Lloyd Calhoun,
general plan.
the plan.
from the audience, asked a question about the
He did not see an agricultural classification on
Alett Little explained that when lands are taken into the City,
they are automatically classified as agricultural. The land use
plan provides the basis for change. Agricultural land was not
classified because there is no intention -to invest money in
buying land for that purpose. This does not mean that lands
cannot remain in the agricultural state.
The Mayor pointed out that the City rarely initiates a rezoning.
The person who owns the land normally asks for rezoning. The
plan is just to show what rezoning is possible.
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Mr. Calhoun commented that "hillside" was to big a designation.
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The Mayor agreed that this is what the City is attempting to deal
with now.
Alderman Williams stated it will be properly defined.
Mr. Calhoun recommended that not just the surface aspects be
delineated but also the soil down to considerable depth.
Fran Alexander, a citizen in the audience, spoke regarding the
city-wide election of aldermen. The crux of the whole issue is
the cost of running city wide. The cost of running at the ward
level is about the only manageable campaign left to run, when
compared to a state or national campaign. It is crucial to
understand that the citizens changed this government in order to
have two representatives in each ward who were known to them.
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She took exception to calling public interest groups special
interest groups. Special interest groups are ones that will
financially benefit from an action. She urged the Council not to
consider changing the aldermen selection process.
OTHER BUSINESS
The Mayor brought forth a request regarding the December 5
meeting being started earlier to accommodate a basketball game.
It was decided to discuss this at the next agenda session.
The meeting was adjourned at 9:40 p.m