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A SPECIAL MEETING OF THE BOARD OF DIRECTORS
A special meeting of the Board of Directors was held December 24, 1980
at 11:00 a.m. in the Directors Room, City Administration Building, Fayetteville,
Arkansas.
DIRECTORS PRESENT: Mayor John Todd, Directors Noland, Osborne, Colwell, Henry,
Lancaster, and Sharp
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OTHERS PRESENT: Administrative Assistant David McWethy, City Attorney Jim McCord,
Acting City Clerk Cynthia Stewart, Dale Frederick, Ray Young, Pete Estes, Ed
Bradbury, Max Pinkerton, Dick Seddon, Ede Hogue, David Ferguson, and other members
of the press and audience.
76.1 Mayor Todd stated that there might be some critical points in exercising the
option for the Fuel Farm at the Airport. He asked if the Board would like to
recess this special meeting and go directly into a meeting of the Airport Committee.
He stated he felt the Airport Committee was much more informed and familiar with
the problems to be discussed than some of the members on the Board.
76.2 Mayor Todd asked City Attorney McCord for his opinion, and McCord replied
that he felt that recessing the Board and calling a meeting of the Airport Committee
would accomplish nothing.
76.3 McCord began the discussion. He stated that the City has an existing lease with
Scheduldd Skyways which contains an option which authorizes the City to purchase
the Fuel Farm at fair market value upon giving ten days notice prior to termination
of the agreement. This agreement terminates December 31, 1980. The City has not
given the required ten days notice. The City cannot exercise the option unless
Skyways wants to acquiese in the late notice. The City has authorized execution II/of a new lease for six months which expires June 30, 1981. This lease also
contains an option whereby the lease can be terminated upon the issuance of ten
days notice prior to termination.
76.4 The Mayor asked Ray Young, President of Skyways, if he wished to acquiese
in the ten day option notice. Mr. Young stated that Skyways did not wish to
acquiese. Proceeding from that point, Mayor Todd stated that there is a potential
lease with Continental Ozark to be Fixed Base Operator. The obtaining of the
Fuel Farm has been a factor in holding up the execution of the lease with
Continental Ozark. The Mayor asked Continental Ozark to clarify their position
relative to exercise of option in the Fixed Base Operator Lease.
76.5 Pete Estes and Ed Bradbury were present to represent Continental Ozark. Mr.
Bradbury stated that he had been under a misunderstanding in Continental Ozark's
capacity of Fixed Base Operator. He stated that presently there is not enough
business at Drake Field to warrant the operation of one Fixed Base Operation, much
less two. In order to operate one profitable Fixed Base Operation, a building
process will have to begin. Continental Ozark feels that in order to get the
Fixed Base Operation in a profitable position, certain things will be needed.
They are: the use of the entire Old Terminal Building to house the office of the
Fixed Base Operation, pilot's lounges, etc., as well as the existing fuel farm
which will be adequate to start with, but will have to be expanded to handle the kind of
business anticipated, the old hangar until such time as a new hangar can be
constructed, and adequate ramp space. Mr. Bradbury felt that without all of these
facilities, together in one package, it would be very difficult for Continental
Ozark to undertake to build a Fixed Base Operation with an existing Fixed Base
operating presently at Drake Field.
76.6 Mayor Todd wanted to clarify the point that the City cannot grant a monopoly
as far as the Fixed Base Operation. Mr. Bradbury stated he understood this.
76.7 Todd asked if the basic needs of Continental Ozark necessary to begin
operation as Fixed Base Operator were the Old Terminal Building, the Fuel Farm,
and ramp space. Mr. Bradbury stated these items would be the nucleus of the FBO,
beyond that certain other facilities would be needed, such as maintenance shops,
T -Hangars, storage hangars, but these items would be p•emature, until the nucleus
is formed.
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Mayor Todd asked how difficult it would be to grant Continental Ozark's 77.1
requests. Ede Hogue stated that as far as ramp space, the space in front of the Old
Terminal Building has been set aside for the use of Continental Ozark, when they
occupy the Old Terminal Building. She stated that at the present time, Continental
Ozark does not have hangar space for attracting general aviation in order to increase
the number of planes to be serviced. Bradbury said the area in front of the Old
Terminal Building is adequate to receive planes, but not to park or store them.
The area in front of the old hangar would be needed at least. Ede stated that
she had discussed with Mr. Bradbury the possibility of using the parking lot west
of the Old Terminal Building for additional ramp space. She said that until the
facilities can be installed on each side of the field, this may be an alternative.
Light aircraft could be located here after resurfacing, also the possibility of some
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O Mr. Estes stated this would have to be a cooperative effort, and that
Q) Continental Ozark wants to follow the desires of the City Board, but that they need
the cooperation of the City in furnishing a first class Fixed Base Operation.
Director Lancaster asked if these items were different from the bid submitted 77.3
by Continental Ozark. Mr. Bradbury stated that there had been some misunderstanding,
Q but that when the bid for the Fixed Base Operation had been discussed with the
Q Airport Committee, he felt these items had been understood. However, he said
that perhaps Continental Ozark had not make their needs sufficiently clear.
Everything discussed has been an integral part of a Fixed Base Operation. The
Old Terminal building by itself and the small amount of ramp space is not sufficient
to operate the type of Fixed Base Operation that Continental wants to put in, and
the type that Drake Field needs.
Lancaster said that each bid submitted by Continental Ozark and Skyways had
a plan and detail. He wondered if what was being discussed now was different. 77.4
Bradbury said there may be a difference in what the actual bid included. He did
not feel there was a difference in what had been discussed with the Airport
Committee. The actual bid included the Old Terminal Building only. Lancaster
said he concurred that the bid had been for the Old Terminal Building, with the
understanding that it would be torn down. Lancaster said it was his understanding
that Mr. Bradbury would provide the facilities that would be needed to install the
FBO. Bradbury said he still held that position, but that it was his understanding
that the City would have only one company providing theiCity's Fixed Base Operation.
He did not feel that the business generated by Drake Field could support two
competitive Fixed Base Operations. Lancaster said that the City cannot create
a monopoly.
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McCord stated that is correct, the City cannot grant an exclusive FBO.
Bradbury asked if that included providing facilities. McCord said it does not,
but that it must make space available. i 77.6
Mr. Estes stated that the misunderstanding had occurred in that Continental
had assumed that the FBO facilities currently existing at Drake Field would
be made available to Continental Ozark when they were awarded the bid for the
Fixed Base Operation. Upgrading of the facilities cannot take place until
Continental Ozark has access to these facilities. He compared it to a filling
station without gas pumps. At this time the only facility that Continental
Ozark has access to is the Old Terminal Building, and based on this, Continental
Ozark is not encouraged to make the investment to install a first class Fixed
Base Operation.
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II/Mayor Todd wondered if perhaps a new bid should be let. McCord stated that
the bid had not included a Fixed Base Operation, but had been for the Old Terminal
Building. Continental Ozark has made it clear what would be needed in order to
implement a Fixed Base Operation, and it is now up to the Board to decide
whether to provide these needs, or to readvertise for bids for a Fixed Base
Operation.
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78.1 Lancaster said that he felt other issues were being discussed than had been
on the agenda, and that it was his opinion this item should be tabled. The
City is committed to providing a First Class Fixed Base Operation at Drake Field.
78.2 Mayor Todd said the acquisition of the fuel farm is not the only item being
discussed.
78.3 Director Noland said that in correspondence with John Paul Hammerschmidt
and the FAA about acquisition of any type of radar unit, the lack of transient
landings had been a factor. Noland felt it would be to the City's advantage to
increase transient landings as much as possible. Transient landings will go
elsewhere until such time as Drake Field has something to offer.
78.4 Administrative Assistant McWethy asked why Continental Ozark needs the
existing fuel farm as opposed to installing one of their own. Bradbury stated
the primary factor is expense. It is Continental Ozark's feeling that the
existing fuel farm can be upgraded much cheaper than installing a new one. Bradbury
stated that Continental Ozark would not be opposed to installing a new fuel farm,
but they would be opposed to a competing Fixed Base Operation while they are in
the building process.
78.5 Director Henry said she could understand Continental Ozark not wanting to go
to the expenditure of installing a new fuel farm when they have only a three year
lease. Henry wondered if perhaps a longer lease would change the feelings of
Continental Ozark in the building of their own facilities. Bradbury stated they
would go along with an arrangement of that sort, as long as the City is not
supporting a competing Fixed Base Operation.
78.6 Director Henry stated that negotiations for a Fixed Base Operation have been
going on for over a year. She stated she understood the deregulation is a
precarious time for the airlines, and that the City does not want to put
Skyways out of business. On the other hand, the Airport needs to get on a
revenue generating basis, and until landings are increased the Airport will
not be equipped with radar equipment, landings will not be increased until a
first class Fixed Base Operation is installed at Drake Field. In light of all
of these things, she did not feel the City could procrastinate any further and
must come to some sort of decision now. The reason the City has not acquired
the fuel farm is so that Skyways expenditures will not be increased.
78.7 Bradbury said that Continental Ozark has no intention of doing anything to
harm Skyways, but that if Skyways had to purchase fuel from Continental Ozark,
their expenditures for fuel would be increased. Bardbury said that Continental
Ozark has no objection to Skyways retaining the fuel farm for their own use. His
objection is to their selling fuel as a competitor, selling fuel for general
aviation.
78.8 Ray Young stated that Skyways had installed the fuel farm, that it is their
equipment. Under the new contract the land is leased from the City and Skyways
pays a flowage fee on each gallon pumped. He felt it was incorrect to state that
the fuel farm is subsidized by the City. Skyways having its own fuel, and a
contract with Gulf, is very important to Skyways in minimizing their costs.
Skyways does a lot of fueling in Fayetteville that could be done elsewhere.
78.9 Director Osborne asked what the difference would be in doing fueling for
Skyways, but not maintaining the Fixed Base Operation. He wondered if it would
be less costly for Skyways to drop the Fixed Base Operation.
78.10 David Ferguson addressed the Board representing Skyways. He stated that
would not be so. There is a profit to be made in selling fuel to others. By
selling fuel for a profit, the cost of operations for Skyways is reduced.
Ferguson stated that Fayetteville has the largest degree of operation for
Skyways. In light of this Skyways would not be willing to let someone else
handle fueling operations for them. This would casue delays in flight operations,
safety related problems could arise. Skyways has been serving Fayetteville for
thirty years. Perhaps Skyways has not provided the best Fixed Base Operations
in the past, but Drake Field has not been the best airport, this has been directly
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related to tM:quality of Fixed Base Operation provided by Skyways. The proposal
made in July by Skyways was to provide a first class Fixed Base Operation. Skyways
has the facilities, and if they had been awarded the terminal building, they would
have provided the facilities being disucssed in this meeting.
Young stated that Skyways is fully in support of increasing itinerate
operations as well as airline operations.
Lancaster asked Mr. Bradbury if Skyways eliminated their Fixed Base Operations,
if he would have a quarrel with Skyways fueling their own planes. Bradbury stated
he would not.
Lancaster asked if Mr. Young would have an objection to this type of
arrangement. Mr. Young said he assumes that would mean Skyways would be prohibited
from selling fuel to others. Ferguson stated that under federal regulations that
could not be done. He stated it would not be practical for Skyways as the selling
0 of fuel reduces the operation expense of the fuel farm.
Director Henry stated that the City could not grant an exclusive FBO, but
CD the City could terminate a contract for poor performance.
Mayor Todd asked Bradbury if he would be willing to go ahead with the
installation of the fuel farm if facilities could be made available by June, 1981.
Q Bradbury stated if he could obtain assurance from the City that facilities would
Q be available, Continental Ozark would go ahead with improvements to the Old
Terminal Building.
Dick Seddon asked if the bid had included the installation of a Fixed Base
Operation. After some discussion, it was agreed that part of the lease was that
a Fixed Base Operation would be the best use for the property. Seddon asked
if there was a time limit on the period it would take to install a Fixed Base
Operation. Lancaster said that it was mutually agreed that a fixed base operation
would be a developing situation and that it would not be pin -pointed to a time it
would have to be completed, that it would be a growing process. Ede Hogue stated
this had been discussed, and that time would be made available for the fixed base
operation to comply with the ordinance.
Director Osborne asked Mr. Bradbury if he intended to provide pilot training
and all other requirements of the ordinance for a Fixed Base Operation. Bradbury
stated he did. Osborne asked if Bradbury had experience in all of this, and
Bradbury answered that he has access to personnel who have the experience.
Director Osborne asked Skyways representative if in the past Skyways had
refused to sell fuel to airlines other than Skyways because they needed the fuel
for themselves. Young replied he did not believe that was true, that Skyways
was fortunate in that they have been able to obtain allthe fuel they can use.
He stated, however, that there have been problems in the past in getting fuel in
when the roads are icy.
Ferguson asked if Fayetteville would rather have airline operations out of
Fayetteville or transient operations out of Fayetteville. Director Osborne
answered both. Young stated that Skyways actively solicits business, and that
he could not see every turning someone away.
Director Osborne wondered if perhaps there could be conflict of interest in
the FBO being operated by the airline. He wondered if perhaps an independent
FBO would not be better for the City.
Young stated that the operation of a Fixed Base Operation and the operation
of an airline are complimentary. Fayetteville has never had the facilities at
Drake Field for the installation of a Fixed Base Operation. The Old Terminal
Building lent itself to that use. Also, until lately, Fayetteville has not had
a first class airline. Young felt that the two could go hand in hand.
Young said that Skyways can provide to corporate jet operators and prop
jet operators first rate heavy maintenance capabilities. This cannot be found in
other airports in this region, where FBO is totally independent.
Lancaster felt the meeting should be adjourned and that consideration should
be given to points brought up today from • the Board's standpoint and also from
a legal standpoint.
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80.1 Ede Hogue wanted it clarified that if Skyways was permitted to keep their
fuel farm for their own operations, if Continental Ozark would be willing to
proceed with the installation of facilities to get a Fixed Base Operation into
operation. Bradbury said Continental Ozark is readyto proceed as long as an
80 2 agreement is reached on a contract and they are furnished with complete facilities.
Director Henry wondered if perhaps a bid should be advertised for a Fixed
Base Operation. Director Osborne agreed with this. Bradbury said it was his
understanding that FBO facilities would not be included in the bid for the terminal
80.3 building, but they would follow.
Administrative McWethy summarized the options discussed.
1. Exercise the City's option, acquire the fuel farm from Scheduled Skyways
and essentially sell it to Continental Ozark.
2. Rebid for a Fixed Base Operation.
3. Cancel Skyways FB0 license, allow them to keep the fuel farm for their
airlines operation, and Continental Ozark would install their own fuel
farm.
80.4 Young stated he felt the airline and the FBO are inextricably related.
He stated that Skyways is ready to go ahead with the bid as advertised on the
Old Terminal Building. Skyways is willing to work with the City on a provisional
basis so that if the City is not satisfied with Skyways running the FBO, then
Skyways could get out of the FBO business and run their FBO as strictly as a back
up. He felt Skyways ought to be given the chance to show what they can do as far as
Fixed Base Operations. Young said he was aware from working with the City of
the City's needs in putting the Airport on a sound self-financing basis.
80 5 Young stated that Skyways has 80% of the facilities in order to install an
FBO. All the building blocks are there. Lancaster stated he was aware of Mr.
Young's accomplishments since he has been in charge of Skyways. However,
in the past all of the FBO operations performed by Skyways have been primarily
for the operation of Skyways. This is the way FBO operations handled by
80.6 Skyways have been handled for years.
Director Noland said he did not think the Board was ready to resolve these
issues. He felt the Board was ready for a recommendation from the Airport
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Director Henry said she felt it was time to terminate Skyway's lease. She
suggested letting them operate their fuel farm for their own operations, and
award the Fixed Base Operations to Continental Ozark. She stated she thought
the Board should come to some decision by January 15 as to whether to award
Fixed Base Operations to Continental Ozark with the needed facilities or to
80 8 readvertise for bids for a Fixed Base Operation.
Lancaster said he did not have any problem with making a decision by January
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Director Henry moved that this item be sent back to the Airport Committee
in order that they have a recommendation for the Board by the second meeting in
January. Director Osborne seconded the motion. The motion passed unanimously
80.10 upon roll call.
The meeting adjourned at 12:16 p.m.
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